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(Message started by: deltadarlin on Sep 10th, 2007, 7:55am)
Title: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by deltadarlin on Sep 10th, 2007, 7:55am
Karl Marx perhaps?  Particularly the first one.

(1) "We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good."

(2) "It's time for a new beginning, for an end to government of the few, by the few, and for the few ... And to replace it with shared responsibility for shared prosperity."

(3)"(We) ... can't just let business as usual go on, and that means something has to be taken away from some people."

(4) "We have to build a political consensus and that requires people to give up a little bit of their own turf in order to create this common ground."

(5) "I certainly think the free-market has failed."

(6) "I think it's time to send a clear message to what has become the most profitable sector in (the) entire economy that they are being watched
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:03am
Mrs. Cankles herself.

Hillary.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Callico on Sep 10th, 2007, 8:36am
Mrs Bill Clinton
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Lobster on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:41am
Not a Hillary fan or democrat in any sense,  but even less a fan of folks who post out-of-context political quotes, Particularly the first one.

We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

She was telling a group of democratic millionaires that they need to give up GWB's 'tax cuts for the wealthy'.

Headlining an appearance with other Democratic women senators on behalf of Sen. Barbara Boxer, who is up for re-election this year, Hillary Clinton told several hundred supporters – some of whom had ponied up as much as $10,000 to attend – to expect to lose some of the tax cuts passed by President Bush if Democrats win the White House and control of Congress.

Politics sucks, but not nearly as much as folks who post out of context political quotes.  We shall assume the remainder of your quotes are as poorly researched as the first.  
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 10th, 2007, 10:08am
Doesn't change the fact that she still said 'em.

I thought that was the question.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by deltadarlin on Sep 10th, 2007, 3:35pm

on 09/10/07 at 09:41:29, Lobster wrote:
Politics sucks, but not nearly as much as folks who post out of context political quotes.  We shall assume the remainder of your quotes are as poorly researched as the first.  


Too bad *you* didn't finish the research that I supposedly hadn't done at all.

First quote (speech was given at a Democratic fun raiser). "Many of you are well enough of that...the tax cuts may have helped you (in ref. to the Rep. tax cuts), "Sen. Clinton said.  "We're saying that for America to get back on track, we're probably going to cut that short and not give it to you.  We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

The rest are taken somewhat out of context.  I took it from another site where the poster said that they had checked it out on snopes.

Next time, rather than being an ass, please give me the correct information and I'll be glad to back up and apologize.  

*I* suck?  You assume?  That word is not quite applicable here, because you didn't make an *ass* out of u and me, you kept that title for yourself.

'darlin-who will no longer make ANY POSTS on this damned board.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Lobster on Sep 10th, 2007, 4:22pm
You would like me to do your fucking homework for you when you post political shit-stirring 'forward this to 100 friends' crap?  Nah.  Blow me.  Do your own research before you post such inane bullshit.  


on 09/10/07 at 15:35:22, deltadarlin wrote:
'darlin-who will no longer make ANY POSTS on this damned board.

Only fucking thing you babbled in the whole thread that made any sense.  Sadly you are likely full of shit on that as well.      
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by UN solved on Sep 10th, 2007, 4:36pm
Wow ! That did start off out of context. I couldn't believe that Mrs. Bill Clinton would've said those things. And, she was compared to the likes of Karl Marx ?? I guess we know who doesn't like her.

Did someone just try to fool me ??

WTF ??

UNsolved
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Ghost on Sep 10th, 2007, 4:38pm
I can feel the love ... Now lets tell each other how we really feel! :-X

Mike
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by fubar on Sep 10th, 2007, 4:39pm
If you post about politics, you should expect to be attacked.  It doesn't matter whet side of the aisle you sit on.

Same goes for religion.

That being said, anybody who tryies to defend Hillary as being anything less than a full-blown socialist is a complete moron.  Nah Nah Nah.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by assaultme on Sep 10th, 2007, 5:12pm
Love is in the air, Everywhere I look around.

Won't you be my neighbor  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Kevin_M on Sep 10th, 2007, 5:39pm
You crack me up Fu.  ;;D



Not to involve myself in any political vein, but just to say, some people chose the road they do and it's not until their life's work is assessed, long after their time, that regard is more favorable for just doing a good job.



Robert LaFollette
(1855-1925)

His political philosophies being way out of step with the extremely conservative Republican Party of the 1920s, he left it in 1924 to start the League for Progressive Political Action.  Socialists, labor, and farmers supported his 1924 presidential candidacy, but he lost decisively and died a senator. After the McCarthyism of the 1950s died down, Senate members polled in the late 1950s felt comfortable enough to rank LaFollette as one of the five greatest senators in U.S. history.

http://www.howhist.com/fraser/1920'smagazineideas/1920s,News-1.html
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by BarbaraD on Sep 10th, 2007, 6:26pm

on 09/10/07 at 09:41:29, Lobster wrote:
Not a Hillary fan or democrat in any sense,  but even less a fan of folks who post out-of-context political quotes, Particularly the first one.

We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good.

She was telling a group of democratic millionaires that they need to give up GWB's 'tax cuts for the wealthy'.

Headlining an appearance with other Democratic women senators on behalf of Sen. Barbara Boxer, who is up for re-election this year, Hillary Clinton told several hundred supporters – some of whom had ponied up as much as $10,000 to attend – to expect to lose some of the tax cuts passed by President Bush if Democrats win the White House and control of Congress.

Politics sucks, but not nearly as much as folks who post out of context political quotes.  We shall assume the remainder of your quotes are as poorly researched as the first.  


Oh gee, I hate to really stir things up BUT in DEFENSE of Delta -- I don't see a damn thing in HER quotes where it mentions Hillary at all..... so Lobster, I think you're a little out of line blasting her for something she didn't even do.

Now Lobster, if you want to correct the quotes and say WHO said them that's fine - but don't start reading into something that wasn't said. Even I know that's not politically correct.

Me, I don't listen to much of what politicians say anymore cause most of them lie anyhow. I'll wait till closer to the elections (like a year from now) and listen and see if they're saying anything worth while and then decide if I believe anything any of them are saying and how they've voted and what they've done the past year or so.  Right now they say something today and spend the next month either denying they said it or trying to explain that they didn't mean it.

Now get back to your arguing, but don't people names....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Ray on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:19pm
There are some pretty vile and angry posts in this thread.  I think angry people suck.    ;;D

Ray
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by assaultme on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:26pm
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
Get on board, ride the love train...love train  [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Linda_Howell on Sep 10th, 2007, 9:38pm


Along with Ray and a few others I am going to stick up for Delta here and say something.

I don't ever ever  ever, enter political threads and I have no idea if she took something out of context or not.  But Rock you were really mean and nasty about it and I think that even if you were 100% correct...you owe her an apology for the meanness.

  Delta has been an important part of all of us for a little while now.  Her posts have even inspired me a few times...She is intelligent, and she cares a lot.

    :-/
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by purpleydog on Sep 10th, 2007, 10:28pm

on 09/10/07 at 21:38:42, Linda_Howell wrote:
  Delta has been an important part of all of us for a little while now.  Her posts have even inspired me a few times...She is intelligent, and she cares a lot.

    :-/

Not that anyone gives a rats patootie, Linda, but I agree with what you said in the above quote. However, the posters are adults, and I'm sure they can handle what they choose to post to one another without having someone calling for apologies for meanness. Otherwise, some people would be apologizing every day. And I don't see these people being called out to make apologies.


Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by deltadarlin on Sep 11th, 2007, 7:46am
It's one thing to be disputed, that I don't have a problem with.  I wouldn't even have a problem being told I was wrong and then told why.

I have NEVER attacked a *person* on this board and would not do it.   I might attack a statement that was made, but never the person that made it.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Mark C on Sep 11th, 2007, 12:17pm

on 09/10/07 at 21:19:02, Ray wrote:
I think angry people suck.    ;;D

Ray


Nice people swallow.......... ;;D
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by DonnaH on Sep 11th, 2007, 12:48pm
I think that the gist of delta's defense here is that we don't want to see her stop posting as she has been.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Charlie on Sep 11th, 2007, 2:35pm
In any event, it beats anything George Bush has said. At least she doesn't try to shred the Constitution or stumble over himself in every speech. And....he's the one that said he wants to make as much money as Clinton and Poppy, speaking for a living. Can't wait. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/big tv laugh.gif

Charlie
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by BobG on Sep 11th, 2007, 9:23pm
Wow! This thread sure went from could have been fun to crap real quick.

Folks, can't we just get a bong!


Ps
I said #5 just a few minutes ago after checking my investment account balances. Wall Street sucks!
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Jonny on Sep 11th, 2007, 9:32pm

on 09/11/07 at 21:23:10, BobG wrote:
Folks, can't we just get a bong!


Nope, I quit that shit 17 years ago, wanna get a six pack......opps, you quit that shit.  ;)

Nevermind  ;;D
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by chewy on Sep 11th, 2007, 10:23pm
My boss uses #3 pretty near every day.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Sep 11th, 2007, 11:24pm
Its funny how Bush Jr borrows the money to pay for expenses and people call him conservative.  
Clinton is talking about raising taxes on the rich to pay for expenses, and she is being called a communist.    

Its the dumbing down of America.  People must not even know what 'liberal' or 'conservative' mean.  

Even taking Clinton's comments out of context, she still makes more sense than Bush Jr's comments in context.  Bush Jr hasn't even thought about raising revenue enough to cover his 4 trillion worth of borrowing.  
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 12th, 2007, 8:08am
That's cuz they're all the same, B$. Ronald Reagan tried to bring true conservatism back to life, but it didn't take root.

This is why I have lost all interest in our political system. Voting comes down to "who's going to screw me over the least." Cynical? Perhaps. I tend to think of it as realistic. Politically I'm just to the right of Ghengis Khan, so there ain't a dime's bit of difference between any of these candidates in my eyes.

The slight differences boil down to this: when are we going to pay for the out of control machine we call big brother? Some say raise taxes and pay more now. Others say hold the line on taxes and borrow.

It's not a matter of who will pay - that's always the same. The middle class.

Screw 'em all. Life is too short to get excited about any of them anymore.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by jimmers on Sep 12th, 2007, 9:09am
Well said Bill!

Jimmers
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by thomas on Sep 12th, 2007, 12:28pm

on 09/12/07 at 08:08:23, Brewcrew wrote:
That's cuz they're all the same, B$. Ronald Reagan tried to bring true conservatism back to life, but it didn't take root.

This is why I have lost all interest in our political system. Voting comes down to "who's going to screw me over the least." Cynical? Perhaps. I tend to think of it as realistic. Politically I'm just to the right of Ghengis Khan, so there ain't a dime's bit of difference between any of these candidates in my eyes.

The slight differences boil down to this: when are we going to pay for the out of control machine we call big brother? Some say raise taxes and pay more now. Others say hold the line on taxes and borrow.

It's not a matter of who will pay - that's always the same. The middle class.

Screw 'em all. Life is too short to get excited about any of them anymore.



Yep, it seems I have always had to vote for who was going to charge me the least amount of money to screw me.  We haven't seen true conservatism in a loooooooooooong time in this country and if we don't see it soon, we will see the decline of the wester civilization dawn upon us.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Charlie on Sep 12th, 2007, 10:42pm
I was and am still a bit of a conservative when it comes to spending a ton of money on idiocy. Still, like Mike Huckabee said: You don't throw old people out of wheel chairs to save a buck. I like him better than most of the GOP crowd. Ron Paul even more.

Charlie
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Sep 12th, 2007, 10:47pm

on 09/12/07 at 08:08:23, Brewcrew wrote:
That's cuz they're all the same, B$. Ronald Reagan tried to bring true conservatism back to life, but it didn't take root.


I dont know if i agree with that.  Yes, Reagan was rather conservative, but on 2 big conservative issues - IE amnesty and fiscal policy, he was far from conservative.  He was, after all, a recovering democrat from california.
;)
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 12th, 2007, 11:02pm

on 09/12/07 at 22:47:42, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I dont know if i agree with that.  Yes, Reagan was rather conservative, but on 2 big conservative issues - IE amnesty and fiscal policy, he was far from conservative.  He was, after all, a recovering democrat from california.
;)

Whatever. It's all dead anyhow. The rest of my statement stands. Hardly a thing to get excited about in politics these days. Our constitution has been shredded and is headed for the incinerator.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by assaultme on Sep 12th, 2007, 11:15pm

on 09/12/07 at 23:02:45, Brewcrew wrote:
Whatever. It's all dead anyhow. The rest of my statement stands. Hardly a thing to get excited about in politics these days. Our constitution has been shredded and is headed for the incinerator.



Damn skippy Brew. And we just keep voting for who will "do the least damage"

Both of them wankers (R's & D's) have pissed all over my Constitution...1st, 2nd !!, 4th

 I hope there are some Constitutionalist people running someday on a National level.

  Adhering to The Constitution makes room for everyones political ideologies. It's like a poo filter....you can have all the personal feelings you want, but if it ain't Constitutional...it ain't gonna go. Much better than all the endless fighting we have now.

I vote for Cheez  Whiz. It may not fix the deficit, end stupid arguments or make the dollar worth more, but we arent doing that now anyways. At least Cheez Whiz tastes good on Ritz crackers.

 
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 13th, 2007, 7:25am

on 09/12/07 at 23:15:34, assaultme wrote:
I vote for Cheez  Whiz. It may not fix the deficit, end stupid arguments or make the dollar worth more, but we arent doing that now anyways. At least Cheez Whiz tastes good on Ritz crackers.

Well, Dave, being a lifelong Wisconsin resident, I cannot in good conscience vote for processed cheese food. Cheese food is what you feed to real cheese. But I like the way you think.

I've really been into goat cheese lately, so I hereby cast my vote for goat cheese. Bring the barnyard back to your belly!

Vote the goat! Vote the goat! Vote the goat!

(Work with me here - I'm trying to come up with some campaign slogans.)
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Ghost on Sep 13th, 2007, 9:08am

on 09/13/07 at 07:25:08, Brewcrew wrote:
Well, Dave, being a lifelong Wisconsin resident, I cannot in good conscience vote for processed cheese food. Cheese food is what you feed to real cheese. But I like the way you think.

I've really been into goat cheese lately, so I hereby cast my vote for goat cheese. Bring the barnyard back to your belly!

Vote the goat! Vote the goat! Vote the goat!

(Work with me here - I'm trying to come up with some campaign slogans.)

I will accept under one condition ... I will need a CHen as VP they dont take no carp from anyone!!!!! ;;D ;;D ;;D
8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
Secret service!

Mike the electable goat!
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by DonnaH on Sep 13th, 2007, 9:14am
Now that we have a Mascot, what's the party name?  
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 13th, 2007, 9:51am

on 09/13/07 at 09:14:23, DonnaH wrote:
Now that we have a Mascot, what's the party name?  

The Murphy Party

October 6, 1945 - The Beginning of Da Curse of the Billy Goat.  William "Billy Goat" Sianis and his pet goat Murphy were allowed into Wrigley Field for the fourth game of the 1945 World Series between the Chicago Cubs and Detroit Tigers.  Sianis and the goat made it onto the playing field before ushers intervened and led them to the grandstand aisle.  Billy Goat Sianis maintained that he had two $7.20 box seat tickets and that there was no disclaimer preventing him for using a ticket for his goat.  After a short argument, Sianis and the goat were allowed to occupy the seats for which he had tickets.  Nevertheless, they were later ejected at the command of Cubs' owner Philip Knight Wrigley due to the animal's objectionable odor.  Sianis was furious over the ejection and placed a curse on the Cubs that they would never win a National League pennant or play in a World Series game at Wrigley Field.  The Cubs lost game four and eventually the World Series.  Sianis sent Wrigley a telegram that read, "Who Smells Now!"
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by DonnaH on Sep 13th, 2007, 9:59am
Wow.....great story.  I love it when what goes around comes around.......in verbal rudeness...not blood and guts situations.

You seem to know your "sports" there, fella.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 13th, 2007, 10:18am

on 09/13/07 at 09:59:02, DonnaH wrote:
You seem to know your "sports" there, fella.

(shhhh - It's called Google "Cubs goat curse," read for 15 seconds, highlight, copy, paste)

Don't tell anybody.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Opus on Sep 13th, 2007, 1:39pm
Man, this turned into a vile thread.

Now lets fight about something that really matters.

Which is better, emacs or vi?

I for one use pico, and will be voting Libertarian.

Paul
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by Brewcrew on Sep 13th, 2007, 2:03pm

on 09/13/07 at 13:39:17, Opus wrote:
Man, this turned into a vile thread.

Now lets fight about something that really matters.

Which is better, emacs or vi?

I for one use pico, and will be voting Libertarian.

Paul

Chevay moots screep strabno. Chapto yahto pinto vaychur. Amerikanski swei interresiere shon den sie oshkosh, nay vay, Bratislava, pray shtay ostillie tahnki.
Title: Re: *Who* made the following statements?
Post by assaultme on Sep 13th, 2007, 5:02pm
I never should have said anything. I knew cheese  snobbery would occur. Wisconsin people constantly degrade us for being void of cheese technology.
 You know, chanting things like our cheddar is better....cheese snobs !!!!
  [smiley=laugh.gif]


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