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(Message started by: sandie99 on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:15am)
Title: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by sandie99 on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:15am
I'm watching live the Diana, Princess of Wales memorial service. And I'm horrified! :o

The service itself is beautiful and wonderful, but the Finnish journalist and her quest commentators are ruining it for me! >:(

The female journalist, part of MTV3 channel's ordinary journalism team, is BAD. It is obvious that she has not done her home work with this piece.

She has absolutely no idea what will happen or when and she is constantly asking her quests questions - during the ceremony! >:(
(She even asked what her quests thought about William's speech - he quoted the Bible :-X, like one quest, Finland's former embassitor to UK pointed out.)

She didn't recognize Cliff Richard, Gordon Brown, Diana's sister Lady Sarah McCorquodale nor members of the royal family.

Now, I have not been trained in TV journalism, but isn't it common sense to BE QUIET when something important is going on?!  I missed part of Harry's speech because of them. :( And we missed the arrivals and part of the service as well; the channel decided to have commercial breaks! :o

I want to WATCH the ceremony! I want to HEAR what people at the memorial service are saying! I don't care what some media researcher lady thinks about royal family's new image nor what does the former embassitor thinks about Mr Al-Fayed's conspiracy theories.

My BP must be up the roof by now... >:( I even looked up the contact information to this channel, so that I can make official complaint.

We LOVE Diana in this country! They had ONE chance with this memorial service and they blew it, big time. >:(

Sanna
(who could have done a better job with no TV journalism training)
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:12am
Don't take offence to this, but what the big deal with Diana anyway?? Because she was part of the useless royal family?  I can think of a hell of alot better people that have died and didn't get even close to the exposure she did over it.   Just trying to figure out why she was so damn popular.  

What does the royal family do now anyway?



Chris
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by sldrswyfe on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:22am
Sanna,

>:( >:( >:( You tell 'em girl!!  That is VERY rude, not to mention disrespectful to speak during a memorial service...
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Rosybabe on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:37am
Sanna, go ahead and complaint, it is a memorial service and I think if they are going to show it on TV they need to have a little respect for it.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by JDH on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:55am

on 08/31/07 at 09:12:15, ClusterChris wrote:
Don't take offence to this, but what the big deal with Diana anyway?? Because she was part of the useless royal family?  I can think of a hell of alot better people that have died and didn't get even close to the exposure she did over it.   Just trying to figure out why she was so damn popular.  

What does the royal family do now anyway?



Chris


Couldn't agree more Chris.
I've never understood the fascination people have with the "Royal Family".........wtf?


Jim
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by sldrswyfe on Aug 31st, 2007, 10:11am

on 08/31/07 at 08:15:11, sandie99 wrote:
I'm watching live the Diana, Princess of Wales memorial service. And I'm horrified! :o

The service itself is beautiful and wonderful, but the Finnish journalist and her quest commentators are ruining it for me! >:(

The female journalist, part of MTV3 channel's ordinary journalism team, is BAD. It is obvious that she has not done her home work with this piece.

She has absolutely no idea what will happen or when and she is constantly asking her quests questions - during the ceremony! >:(
(She even asked what her quests thought about William's speech - he quoted the Bible :-X, like one quest, Finland's former embassitor to UK pointed out.)

She didn't recognize Cliff Richard, Gordon Brown, Diana's sister Lady Sarah McCorquodale nor members of the royal family.

Now, I have not been trained in TV journalism, but isn't it common sense to BE QUIET when something important is going on?!  I missed part of Harry's speech because of them. :( And we missed the arrivals and part of the service as well; the channel decided to have commercial breaks! :o

I want to WATCH the ceremony! I want to HEAR what people at the memorial service are saying! I don't care what some media researcher lady thinks about royal family's new image nor what does the former embassitor thinks about Mr Al-Fayed's conspiracy theories.

My BP must be up the roof by now... >:( I even looked up the contact information to this channel, so that I can make official complaint.

We LOVE Diana in this country! They had ONE chance with this memorial service and they blew it, big time. >:(

Sanna
(who could have done a better job with no TV journalism training)
 I think the point is that Sanna does, and so do the people in her country... and it's her opinion she's expressing.  Just in my humble observation
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 11:33am
I have no problem with people liking them, just don't understand why. Just thinkin out loud again I guess. No harm intended!


Chris
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by tanner on Aug 31st, 2007, 1:47pm

on 08/31/07 at 11:33:39, ClusterChris wrote:
I have no problem with people liking them, just don't understand why. Just thinkin out loud again I guess. No harm intended!


Chris


Because thier last names are not Bush or Clinton??? ::)

.....I'm with Rosy, Sanna you should air your opinion when the press or anyone else screws something up that matters to you!

 Keep em straight over there girl ;).......Tim
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Sandy_C on Aug 31st, 2007, 2:06pm
Sic em Sanna!  It's obvious that the TV "Personalities" don't have a clue as to what is considered respectful behavior.

And, to Chris and Jim, I don't think it's a fixation on "royalty" per se.  Diana was a breath of fresh air in a stagnant monarchy dating back centuries.  She was a beautiful, intelligent modern woman, something the "royals" hadn't ever had in their midst before.  She broke the mold of what a future Queen was expected to be like.

Diana dedicated a large portion of her life to over 100 charities and causes throughout the world.  She was well spoken, a great mother to her sons, and a wonderful asset to Britain, even though the royal family may not have thought so.  She brought new life, and new hope to the British subjects, and they adored her, as did most of the world.

If there is any "fixation" with the British royals now, it's same old...same old.  Back to midieval times once again.  And the world loses.  I can only hope that Elizabeth has enough sense and health to hang on longer, and bypass her son in favor of her grandson.  Then, maybe Britains can once again look to the future with their monarchy.

Sandy
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Rosybabe on Aug 31st, 2007, 5:14pm
I read somewhere that someone read Camilla's hand and she is going to die of a heart attack very soon  [smiley=laugh.gif]...The rott will never be The Queen  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by deltadarlin on Aug 31st, 2007, 7:10pm
I'm with Sandy_C here.  Diana was so very different from what one *expected* froma *royal*.  She brought something to the royal family that was not seen very often by the public, a *humaness* (not a word but does the trick here), that hadn't been seen before.  She had troubles just like your every day joe had.  Besides that, she was an awesome young woman.

'darlin
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Mosaicwench on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:36pm

on 08/31/07 at 14:06:45, Sandy_C wrote:
Diana was a breath of fresh air in a stagnant monarchy dating back centuries.  She was a beautiful, intelligent modern woman, something the "royals" hadn't ever had in their midst before.  (Snip)

She was well spoken, a great mother to her sons, and a wonderful asset to Britain, even though the royal family may not have thought so.  


Sorry Sandy, but I have to respectfully disagree with a little of what you said.

It is my opinion that if she was such a great mother she wouldn't have been jet-setting all over the world with multiple men while the royal family looked after her sons.  If she'd stayed home with them she might still be alive today.

I can't work up a lot of sympathy for her when she chose her own course, and lest we forget, it's also close to the 10th anniversary of Mother Teresa's death (Sept 5, 1997).

Just my opinion - take what you like and leave the rest.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by fubar on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:46pm
I have to agree, the whole obsession with Princess Diana is hard to understand.

I was living right next to Windsor Castle when she died.  I flew in from Paris that very morning, and we heard the news on the plane (I had a very early flight).  The paralysis and wailing in England was beyond anything I have ever seen.  Flowers literally clogged the roadway near the castle, and that wasn't even her home.  All I could say was "Wow", these people really loved their princess.  I saw people of every kind simply distraught with sadness, tears streaming down their faces.

What the hell?  I cried like that when my own twins died.  That level of emotions should be reserved for those you really KNOW and love.  How in the world did she reach the status where so many people in the world felt like their own mother/sister/daughter/wife died?  Simply amazing.

I still don't get it.

But, I guess there's no real harm in it.  People need something...

-Fu
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:50pm
So i guess the main reason is just because the whole royal family are stuck up people and she wasn't.  Hmmm  seems odd.   ::)

Chris
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:03pm
She was nice-looking, didn't mind a glimse.

One thing I heard about her I liked, when she attended any fund-raising function, walllets opened wide and checks sprung out to contribute beyond any other possible presence.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:10pm
good point Kevin, But where does that money come from in the first place?   >:(
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:17pm
Benevolent, good-natured people that will give more graciously to a cause she speaks at.  A lot of good causes in this country unable to garner funds elsewise depend on such things.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:41pm
Its much easier to donate when you have an endless supply of funds that you didn't have to work a minute to get!
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Charlie on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:48pm

Quote:
I want to WATCH the ceremony! I want to HEAR what people at the memorial service are saying! I don't care what some media researcher lady thinks about royal family's new image nor what does the former embassitor thinks about Mr Al-Fayed's conspiracy theories


It's the same reason that you can't watch figure skating, ski jumping, baseball, football, ballroom dancing, and most anything on the tube without inane narrative. The theory is that if there isn't a lot of blabbing, we'll change the channel. It's true on some levels no doubt.

At least Diana beats the Bad Boy from Boise series.

Charlie
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:48pm

on 08/31/07 at 21:41:19, ClusterChris wrote:
Its much easier to donate when you have an endless supply of funds that you didn't have to work a minute to get!




oh, that about does it here, unless you want to tell me more all about this.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by chewy on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:56pm

on 08/31/07 at 21:17:34, Kevin_M wrote:
Benevolent, good-natured people that will give more graciously to a cause she speaks at.  A lot of good causes in this country unable to garner funds elsewise depend on such things.


ABSOLUTELY!


Quote:
Its much easier to donate when you have an endless supply of funds that you didn't have to work a minute to get!



So what. Its their money to do with as they wish. If they choose to donate to a cause then more power to them.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by andrewjb on Aug 31st, 2007, 10:15pm
sorry it was a wash out sanna, but sort of glad it was. this article i think will help explain why. there seems to have been nobody there. andrew.  http://www.guardian.co.uk/monarchy/story/0,,2160308,00.html
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Jonny on Aug 31st, 2007, 10:15pm

on 08/31/07 at 21:41:19, ClusterChris wrote:
Its much easier to donate when you have an endless supply of funds that you didn't have to work a minute to get!


Tell me you are not the complete dickhead that you are coming off as....please tell me that!
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 31st, 2007, 10:16pm

on 08/31/07 at 21:41:19, ClusterChris wrote:
Its much easier to donate when you have an endless supply of funds that you didn't have to work a minute to get!




Quote:
Andrew Carnegie was born in Dunfermline, Scotland. He went to the U.S. in 1848 and began work short after his arrival as a threading machine attendant in a cotton mill in Allegheny, Pennsylvania. He got paid $1.20 a week. In 1849 he became a messenger in a Pittsburgh telegraph office.




Most likely an SOB, but for over a century, free libraries have benefited countless.  Put a value on that.



Quote:
Carnegie built 2,811 free libraries in all. Of these, 1,946 were located in the United States; at least one in every state except Rhode Island -- 660 in Britain and Ireland, 156 in Canada. A handful of libraries were also scattered in places like New Zealand, the West Indies and even Fiji.


Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by john_d on Aug 31st, 2007, 10:52pm
Royalty is part of our European history, and it's tradition.  Diana was beautiful, vulnerable and lived the princess fairy tale that ended tragically, that story has been a part of our popular culture for centuries and she lived it; it's almost Shakespearean.  She represented something other than practical.   And popular attention has never been deserved by anyone, how would that be earned exactly? Frankly she probably would have lived a happier life without it.    I got nothin but good thoughts for her and I can't see a reason to do otherwise.


on 08/31/07 at 09:12:15, ClusterChris wrote:
Don't take offence to this, but what the big deal with Diana anyway?? Because she was part of the useless royal family?  I can think of a hell of alot better people that have died and didn't get even close to the exposure she did over it.   Just trying to figure out why she was so damn popular.  

What does the royal family do now anyway?



Chris
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by LeLimey on Sep 1st, 2007, 7:20am
Before Diana the Royal Family was an Archaic institution - people thought of them as figureheads and good for tourism but they didn't really care (Apart from about the Queen Mother but I'll get to her)

The Royal Family weren't "real" people to us.

Diana was endearingly real. She showed emotions. She quite obviously adored Charles and thought the sun rose and set over him and lets face it, we all love to see people in love. She giggled, she made mistakes, she blushed, she got it wrong.

She was "one of us"

She didn't just bring a style and glamour to us - lets face it ladies, we all loved to see what outfits she wore didn't we?! She made anyone who ever met her feel like she would never forget you (I did meet her) You felt special in her presence. YOU mattered.

She did more for AIDS acceptance by hugging people with aids than every infomercial ever made on any subject. Her compassion and humour wasn't contrived, it was spontaneous. What you saw was what there was.

She had a bloody tough life, her husband wanted to be with a dog faced old ho (yeah stick me in the tower - see if I care!) Everyone else considered her the most beautiful person in the world and he didn't want to be near her. Any one of us, women or men can relate to feeling worthless and she did.

When she finally got divorced part of her divorce (Same for Sarah Ferguson) was that she could never spend Christmas or birthdays with her kids again. That "right" goes to the Queen. Can any one of you parents out there contemplate that? I bloody well can't. I think I'd damn well fly off somewhere to try to ease that pain too.

She was cut out of every decision affecting her children and frankly, she was lucky she was allowed contact with them. The Royal Family are a bunch of self righteous ignorant parasites without her.

I used to be proud of them, I'm not any more. I can't be proud of a Queen who cried when her yacht Britannia was scrapped but not when Diana's funeral cortege passed her.

When Diana died so did all Royal Humanity. Lets hope it returns with her sons.

The only exception to the love for the Royal Family was the Queen Mother. She was another amazing lady who wasn't just loved but worshipped by the British People.

In WW2 she went to visit the people of the East End of London after it had been blitzed to smithereens. She was wearing a tiara and every diamond she could lay her hands on. One of her courtiers said they didn't think it was tactful to go with such wealth about her personage to see people who had lost everything and her reply was "They will be wearing the est of what they have to see me - the least I can do is the same"

It wasn't arrogance, it was respect and it was mutual as for Diana.

Diana has now been dead for ten years and her loss is still felt. That is a testimony to the difference she made in the world. I do feel however that the time has come to let her rest, in peace. She didn't have it in life, she deserves it in death.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by deltadarlin on Sep 1st, 2007, 9:52am
And, let's not forget during the bombing raids of London, the Queen Mother refused to flee because everyone else could not.

Helen, your testimony to Diana is beautiful.  And let's not forget, although her life ended at a young age, she made a tremendous impact on her two sons and both of them seem to have inherited those things which made the people love her, kindness and compassion.

'darlin
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by sandie99 on Sep 1st, 2007, 2:16pm
Great post, Helen! :)

Sanna
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by Charlie on Sep 1st, 2007, 9:11pm
You gotta like her. Things were getting pretty grim for a long time. Her genes were badly needed.

Everybody liked the Queen Mother.

Just don't ask Christopher Hitchens about them.

Charlie
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by sldrswyfe on Sep 1st, 2007, 10:38pm
Helen, that was a lovely tribute to Princess Di.

I personally can't help but deeply admire and respect people who aren't afraid to show humaness, actually admit what we all already know-none of us are perfect, and many try to desperately hide a fact that is undeniable-being human.

We all "blush, laugh, cry and often get it wrong"-that we're merely human.  She epitomized that to me.

Her graciousness was very endearing.  She brought light to a family that desperately needed it.  She is missed by many.
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Sep 2nd, 2007, 5:39am

on 08/31/07 at 20:36:40, Mosaicwench wrote:
Sorry Sandy, but I have to respectfully disagree with a little of what you said.

It is my opinion that if she was such a great mother she wouldn't have been jet-setting all over the world with multiple men while the royal family looked after her sons.  If she'd stayed home with them she might still be alive today.

I can't work up a lot of sympathy for her when she chose her own course, and lest we forget, it's also close to the 10th anniversary of Mother Teresa's death (Sept 5, 1997).

Just my opinion - take what you like and leave the rest.

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Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by assaultme on Sep 2nd, 2007, 9:01pm

on 09/01/07 at 09:52:40, deltadarlin wrote:
And, let's not forget during the bombing raids of London, the Queen Mother refused to flee because everyone else could not.


Yes, a forgotten factoid of history. The old girl had guts, no two ways about it. People like her are rare today.

Cut LeLimey some slack. They dig it.

Another point of interest:
 Linda Lovelace is staging a triumphant return with a new made for network television show.
It will be like "thats incredible", but aptly renamed "thats hard to swallow" (rimshot)
Title: Re: Diana Memorial Service shocker
Post by LeLimey on Sep 3rd, 2007, 5:33am
Actually I'm not a Royalist at all! I wasn't even one of those obsessed with Diana, I was just trying to explain how people felt about her and the difference she made.

Iconic figures do that and what we need to remember is it's US that makes them icons and in doing so destroy normality for them - and then we bitch when they fall from their impossibly high pedastals.. they can't win.

Look at others, Elvis, Marilyn Monroe - loads of people. We love to see them soar but somehow it's a sad fact that we love to see them fall even more.

And we lie in wait with knives when they can't defend themselves. Not an aspect of our humanity I'm proud of  :-/


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