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(Message started by: catlind on Aug 30th, 2007, 7:12am)
Title: Help
Post by catlind on Aug 30th, 2007, 7:12am
What do I do when the docs in questions have decided to instituted a criminal investigaton against me becase of a pain management program I have endured forthe last 2 years - and suddendy out of nowhere they have fabricated a whole serious of false accusations against me to the tune of me attempting to acquire to medicatons to the tune or $14k a MONTH to feed an 'addiction' and they are levying hhs investigations and legal procedings against me and won't listen to a word I say despite NO evidence and no recourse.

It would seem that I have gone to multiple sources to procur narcortics to the extent of going to the VA hospitalin Lincoln to gain narcotics - a place I've NEVER BEEN - I've never stepped foot in Lincoln NE!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm in a rock and a hardplace and have no way to know what the fuck isgoing on.  They flat out refused to allow us a copy of the document butthey let Clark read it.

I'm lost - I have no idea what to turnto next.

Well I do, I suspect a bullet to the brain (if I had a gun) or simply jumping in front of a bus orworse.  I am at the end of my rope and the knot has unraveled.

Quantity of life means nothing withoutquality.

Any help or info is appreciated

I'm absolutely stunned.

Cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by Big_OUCH on Aug 30th, 2007, 8:07am
You need to get an attorney ASAP and not say anything to anyone about the charges against you.  Often innocent people who try to explain themselves to those accusing them wind up having their statements twisted in favor of prosecutors.  Despite our concept that you are innocent until proven guilty, in reality once you are charged with a crime you are guilty until proven innocent-at least in the French system of law this is the way things are, they're honest about it.  Get a lawyer!  Don't discuss the case with ANYONE but your lawyer-remember, ANYTHING that you say can and will be used against you.  So sorry for your problems-you don't need this.
Title: Re: Help
Post by sldrswyfe on Aug 30th, 2007, 8:40am
Dearest Cat,

That was good advice given by Big Ouch...really, in this case, a lawyer is needed...and really don't share this with people that wouldnt understand...I know you're not doing anything out of line...to people unfamiliar with pain management...including Drs.....they make a HUGE deal over it.  A pain management Dr. wouldn't even blink...

You're going to be ok..you're just overwhelmed...and frightened.  Breathe...take it easy.  Just CALMLY get your records together...talk to prescibring Dr's...just take it easy...I understand what you're feeling.  

I will talk to you Cat.  Just hang on.   Sherri
Title: Re: Help
Post by BarbaraD on Aug 30th, 2007, 8:49am
I'm with Big OUCH -- Lawyer Lawyer Lawyer -- this is one time they come in handy. Good grief - you've been on trex not narcs... and at NECH. Your records from there should show something.

Get a lawyer STAT! And a good one! Sue back for the harrassment and mental anguish!

And as much as inquiring minds want to know -- stay off the board with it... pms are ok...I think -- do what your lawyer says.

Good luck kiddo... we're all sending vibes...

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Help
Post by thomas on Aug 30th, 2007, 9:15am
Perhaps a case of identity theft?
Title: Re: Help
Post by E-Double on Aug 30th, 2007, 9:15am
A big second to granny B in regards to posting information.

Good luck and get quality legal guidance
Title: Re: Help
Post by sandie99 on Aug 30th, 2007, 9:34am
Cat... [smiley=hug.gif]

Best wishes,
Sanna
Title: Re: Help
Post by Ray on Aug 30th, 2007, 11:40am
My goodness, as if we didn't already have enough to deal with.  My prayers and best wishes go to you.  You've received good advice above.  Remember that you have family here, but don't share the details with anyone except the attorney.

Ray
Title: Re: Help
Post by phil_h on Aug 30th, 2007, 12:05pm
 Get with a lawyer .... take someone with you . Make notes before going that you can refer to .. Make a list of questions.... write down lawyers answers..... Have your friend record answers also and allow this person to ask any questions they may think of ....  Stress may shadow up your visit and make it hard to focus..... therefore a friend there will help ..... You then have somebody to answer , "is that what he said "  . best of luck and lots of prayers....     phil h
Title: Re: Help
Post by gore2424 on Aug 30th, 2007, 12:25pm
i agree you get a lawyer asap if you cant afford one you can get one n/c and please do it soon hope it all turns out good for you Cat and if you havent been where they say you have been keep records of anything they say against you for future lawsuit against them Terry
Title: Re: Help
Post by Rosybabe on Aug 30th, 2007, 1:05pm
Dear Cat
do what Barb says, a lawyer is the only way now...take care because you need to be focus now and I will be praying for you.

                                                  hugs
                                                                Rosy.

                 
Title: Re: Help
Post by purpleydog on Aug 30th, 2007, 2:23pm
Cat,
Do get a lawyer, and do not pm anyone here any details. Anything submitted here on the board, or via PM can be subpoenaed.  

They can also pull your phone records, but short of bugging your phone, can't say anything there.

Good Luck.




edit for spelling
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Aug 30th, 2007, 2:32pm
Well as it stands, we went to the location in question and requested a copy of the hand written note, UNSIGNED, the made the allegations.  They were 'surprising' unable to procure the document even though Clark read it.  They flat out REFUSED to give us a copy.

We went to the chief of staff and they are looking into it.

We then went to the docs office and let thim in on it.  The absurd thing is that we learned it $47k worth of narcotics,and that of course, Clark is active duty and CAN'T use the va hospital.  I've never gone to any but ONE ER when themigraines kicked off.  they have all my records, they know my diagnosis.

I can't afford a lawyer.  All our savings and credit was used to cover my sons legal expensives.

O2, agony and moving tires are my alternatives.

I've never been so pissed off, depressed and read to thrown in the towel.

Clark will updateyou all if I sholdnot be able to.

Cat - who is at the end of the rope with a knot unravelling.
Title: Re: Help
Post by alienspacebabe on Aug 30th, 2007, 3:56pm
Don't allow them to get to you, Cat!! (I know- easier said than done....)

If you DIDN'T do this, then you're not going to be put in jail.


I don't know enough about the legal system to give you any advice.  But, don't let them get you so down that you're thinking, well, you know....
Title: Re: Help
Post by The  mad viking on Aug 30th, 2007, 4:06pm
Dear Cat my friend

When are you going to get enough trouble?
I really think you have had enough now.
I cant give you more advices then the family already have done.
You are a strong lady,or should i say like Chuck would have done "A STUBBORN"LADY

Take care my friend and both me and Bente are thinking about you and your family

Svenn
Title: Re: Help
Post by Charlie on Aug 30th, 2007, 6:39pm
Lawyer, lawyer, lawyer and say nothing, here or anywhere without sayso.

Legal Aid works back here. Get in touch NOW.

Charlie
Title: Re: Help
Post by purpleydog on Aug 30th, 2007, 7:32pm
Cat,
Go see a lawyer, they can make a deal that they get a percentage.  Or at least call one, give them the story, and see what they say, fee wise. Don't hire an injury lawyer, see if you can get one who specializes in medical law. DON'T GIVE UP!!  Deep breaths... Deep breaths.

Stop posting details here hon. Call someone. Call me, I'll pm you my number.
Title: Re: Help
Post by purpleydog on Aug 30th, 2007, 7:42pm
Cat, I was talking to Kirk. He said that Clark has a right to legal representation through the JAG, and seemd to think that right falls to some dependents. Please check into it.

You also have a right to discovery, legally, but you need a lawyer. If you can't get representation through Clark, call the state bar association for Legal Aid.  

Also, if you call a good lawyer, they may do it pro bono (free). (Or any lawyer for that matter, just try to get a good one). I'd sue the shit out of them.  >:(
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Aug 30th, 2007, 10:53pm
Too much to update rightnow, we've been to the chief of staff and medical records, we've dealth with my primary docs, and the pain docs....they all have the same records and all agree this is bogus.

What happens next is anyone's guess.  They areinvestigating insurance fraud and hopefully this will just go away.

As I said, the handwrittent unsigned doc seems to have disappeared.  Time will tell.

If and when I get my head to gether i will be on the war path.

I'll post if there is any new information.

cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by Big_OUCH on Aug 31st, 2007, 8:46am
It appears that the truth is being discovered-I'm happy for you.  Only a low-life would make such an anonymous complaint...I hope that the authorities try to track this person down and if caught, I hope that he/she faces some serious charges.  Hang on!
Title: Re: Help
Post by sldrswyfe on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:01am
No Cat...you WILL get your head on, and WILL be on the warpath...this is outrageous.  No IF's about it girl.

You are very strong...just a bit frazzled at the moment...that won't last long. >:( >:(   ;)
Title: Re: Help
Post by ClusterChris on Aug 31st, 2007, 9:08am
Sounds like you'll be just fine, Just start planning how your going to make them pay for this!!  8)

Chris
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Sep 1st, 2007, 9:10am

on 08/30/07 at 09:15:30, thomas wrote:
Perhaps a case of identity theft?

Thomas, as of yesterday at the various docs and hospitals, to include hte VA hospital, my family doc, the pain mgmt doc, the VA Inspector General and searching a lawyer, as well as the docs at the ER in question - they are all thinking it may well be medical identity theft.  We are going to the base today to as them what to do, because military medicine is based on your social, it wouldn't be hard.

Problem is, time and money are required to fight this, neither of which I have.

I swear, if it weren't for bad luck I'd have no luck.

Cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Sep 1st, 2007, 9:12am
I need a GOOD laywer with experience with military medicine, not an easy find.  We will go to the JAG on Tues. - love holiday weekends.

>:(

Cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by sldrswyfe on Sep 1st, 2007, 10:59am
Cat,

You have things moving along.  You covered alot of ground, you've basically done all you can for today.  Try to be at peace with that for just a few days.

That is such a good point about military benefits-I mean being based on soc's...id theft would be easy.

I'll be sure to keep mil. ID on lockdown.

Tuesday surely will come.  Fondly, Sherri who hates holiday weekends too
Title: Re: Help
Post by Lobster on Sep 2nd, 2007, 4:21am
A 'handwritten note' was passed with the details to 'someone'? Then 'they' let Clark read it?

Wow... you can seriously ruin someones day here.
HIPPA is a bitch, and military status is not a factor.
Your medical information is so fucking private it would make your head swim.
Whoever passed a handwritten note detailing any aspect of your medical condition is fucked.
Whoever has the note and let others access it is fucked.
Whoever let Clark read the note is fucked (Clark is NOT allowed to access anything regarding your medical condition without your explicit permission).

Per section 1177 of HIPAA, a person who knowingly discloses individually identifiable health information to another person is in violation of HIPAA regulations. Such persons are subject to the following penalties:

   * a fine of up to $50,000, or up to 1 year in prison, or both;

   * if the offense is committed under false pretenses, a fine of up to $100,000, up to 5 years in prison, or both;

   * if the offense is committed with intent to sell, transfer, or use individually identifiable health information for commercial advantage, personal gain, or malicious harm, a fine up to $250,000, or up to 10 years in prison, or both.


Start throwing the word HIPAA around (pronounced like HIPPO but with a short A at the end.. HIP-PA).  If anyone who is not your doctor knows anything about your condition or any treatments, then you can instantly start making half the base start jumping through hoops.  

Make sure that the second half of your JAG meeting is to begin discovery into an obvious HIPAA violation.
Also contact the director of the health care facility that appears to have started this issue about 'an apparent HIPAA privacy violation.'  
Act like half the fucking world knows about your condition now.  

Seriously Cat... whoever started this will be unemployed by next weekend, regardless of whether they are with a health care facility or an insurer.
If it is blatant you can probably get a tort lawyer to sue for you cost free.  
Title: Re: Help
Post by LeLimey on Sep 2nd, 2007, 4:59am
Wow Cat, I've been reading this thread with my stomach in knots and Wrokks post has just made me feel so much better - I'm sure it will for you too.

Wrokk you rock! Thank you thank you thank you, not just for Cat but for all of us who've been worrying sick  :-*
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Sep 2nd, 2007, 8:08am
Rock you rock...

I've been researching the hippa laws, and have a few other things to throw in, we are also are researcing the DoD regulations regarding civilian care of a military dependant.  We will see the JAG on Tues. and the frame of mind I'm in heads will ROLL. Thank the Lord for my husband, he's the only sanity I have, I would have lost it in a way that would surely have landed me in jail.

I've never been one for patience, but in this I have no choice.

The real pisser is that the because of this shit, I've been informed that one of my docs my have to drop me as a patient - can you say 'blacklisted'.

My blood pressure must be to the moon by now.

Thank you again, every bit of info and insight is invaluable to me right now when my head is too angry to make sense of things.


Cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by catlind on Sep 2nd, 2007, 8:09am
Oh btw, anyone wanna take up a collection for $47,000 for the insurance fraud I 'supposedly' committed but didn't and help me out ? ROFLMAO

If you can laugh at yourself you'll always know a good joke....


Cat
Title: Re: Help
Post by cash5542 on Sep 2nd, 2007, 7:38pm
I grew up as a military brat. My memories are awful of these hospitals. I had a hysterectomy when I was 12 according to my records. I had mastoids in my ears in Ft Leavenworth, scheduled for surgery. My Dad was transfered to Virginia and the doc there saw no ear problems ever. It was always something. They told my parents my 18 year old sister was on birthcontrol and yes thats against the privacy act too. Hang in there, it will get resolved!! Hopefully you will be paid in some way for your patience!!
Title: Re: Help
Post by Charlie on Sep 3rd, 2007, 8:34pm
After this mess is over; sue the pants off anyone that wasted your time....Including your "doctor." Make him squirm.

Charlie
Title: Re: Help
Post by Kirk on Sep 4th, 2007, 4:43am
Ahhh yes the HIPPA Act. Whatever was I thinking. Someone(s) are soooooooo screwed, Sickem kid.
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