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(Message started by: zwibbs/Scott on Aug 17^th, 2007, 4:54am)

Title: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Aug 17^th, 2007, 4:54am

Maybe it's me , but I watched a tape of these candidates debate and it was almost comical. I don't know who sponsored it but Anderson something or other was the moderator and he was awful. Then I saw 4 candidates who answered questions and I don't have a clue as to who they are ??? All I know is that my senator is running and if she is ever the representative of the democratic party., We'll all need vibes and prayers.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Paul98 on Aug 17^th, 2007, 6:04am

The only upside if Billary wins is it will get her out of NY. LOL. The down side is the rest of the nation will suffer and NY will just get another liberal senator. Oh yea, and out taxes will go up....again.

-P.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Josh W on Aug 17^th, 2007, 8:36am

Paul
How can you even joke about something like that. If you truly love all of us you will take that back right now. Billary is scariest thing on two legs. And Im not just talking about her looks. To tell you the truth I have seen better heads on a zit. ;;D

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 17^th, 2007, 9:41am

on 08/17/07 at 08:36:56, Josh W wrote:

If you keep holding back like this, your head is going to explode.

Now let it out - how do you really feel?

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Josh W on Aug 17^th, 2007, 9:51am

Hillary Billary which is worst? The one who will be second or the one that came first. Partial birth abortion and homosexual marriage. If that happens there are no babies for the baby carriage. Like Bob said The times they are a changin. ( just my shot a comedy)

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 17^th, 2007, 10:00am

That was a pretty good shot.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Maffumatt on Aug 17^th, 2007, 10:10am

I watched it, it was very painful. Sad thing is that the other side of the isle is just as painful. I think we are all screwed no matter what way it all turns out.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 17^th, 2007, 10:16am

Maybe, if we're lucky, we'll all be alive for the next revolution. We might get to see some of the biggest of the true criminals swinging from the rafters. Then after that we might - just might - be able to establish some truly constitutional ideas again.

I'm not holding my breath.

I am keeping my powder dry and practicing my marksmanship, however.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 17^th, 2007, 7:14pm

Well....

At least Hillary wouldn't have the same problem that Dubya has. The only way he can be the smartest person in the room is to surround himself with dimwits. He has.

No matter who runs; they have to deal with the "No queers at the altar" and "The jury is still out on Darwin" crowd. It's stunning that a President of the United States in the 21st Century, would make such a statement. There is no Republican Party.

Sorry but that has been on my mind.

Still, no matter your politics, Hillary has been listening to the greatest American politican there is. Gore didn't.

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 17^th, 2007, 8:23pm

Well, spending is up by trillions, we might as well increase revenue also.

Used to be a day when republican meant common sense fiscal policy. Now it means spend WAY more than you have and just print more money. Then when the dollar loses value and the interest on the debt is half of a TRILLION dollars per year, blame it on Monica Lewinsky.

The republican party is gone. It's a sad day when you depend on the democratic party to watch the purse strings.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Jonny on Aug 17^th, 2007, 8:40pm

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Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 17^th, 2007, 9:12pm

http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/binochs.gifPuts Rudy to shame; doesn't she? http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/heat.gif

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Jonny on Aug 17^th, 2007, 9:15pm

on 08/17/07 at 21:12:07, Charlie wrote:

http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/binochs.gifPuts Rudy to shame; doesn't she? http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/heat.gif

Charlie

Honestly?

Id rather have Rudy suck me off, at least I would know what I was getting.....LMAO ;;D

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 17^th, 2007, 9:31pm

It really don't matter...does it?

Lemmings we choose to be.

Does anyone think independently anymore?

Steve G

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 17^th, 2007, 10:20pm

on 08/17/07 at 21:31:39, stevegeebe wrote:

Does anyone think independently anymore?

Now thats funny stuff right there. Today is worse then McCarthyism.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Jonny on Aug 17^th, 2007, 10:25pm

Its pretty bad when you have to vote for the person that will harm you the least.

Thats what we have now, no?

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by 1stdonna on Aug 17^th, 2007, 11:25pm

And even then we know in our hearts that they're lying, too.

I've heard that the churches have been advised not to express a preference anymore.......the government is to be in control. Doesn't make sense as the churches have always backed a candidate before. What's coming from the government now?

Tim Russert (sp) for President!

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by ClusterChuck on Aug 17^th, 2007, 11:46pm

Jonny
for
PRESIDENT/KING

http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u266/ClusterChuck/JonnyHillary.jpg

EDITED: to add pic

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by 1stdonna on Aug 18^th, 2007, 12:17am

Well, one thing we know for sure.......he's BROAD minded.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 18^th, 2007, 12:19am

on 08/17/07 at 23:25:15, 1stdonna wrote:

And even then we know in our hearts that they're lying, too.

Yup. We are pissed off at the lies from the past, and now we wait eagerly for new lies.
Case in point, 12 months ago the democrats were talking tough and talking about how they are gonna change stuff. Now that it's been like 8 months of a democratic congress, we realize all of it was rhetoric and bullshit.
We got duped yet again, but we await eagerly for the next time. Such a shame.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 18^th, 2007, 12:22am

on 08/18/07 at 00:17:05, 1stdonna wrote:

Well, one thing we know for sure.......he's BROAD minded.

Chuck never has broads on the mind. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by 1stdonna on Aug 18^th, 2007, 12:34am

I was referring to Jonny......and we all know where his mind is! LOL.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by ClusterChuck on Aug 18^th, 2007, 1:21am

on 08/18/07 at 00:22:34, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

Chuck never has broads on the mind.

OMG!! Who told on me?

:o
;)
[smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by 1stdonna on Aug 18^th, 2007, 8:42am

I'm ready to march....we just talk and take their abuse.

Have you seen the movie "Sicko" yet? It's not a comedy!

We are the laughing stock of the free world (and some third world countries..one of which we may become).

How many abandoned homes are there? Where did these people go? Oh so many questions.

We are slaves to the very rich. We give them pedicures while they discuss their portfolios.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BarbaraD on Aug 18^th, 2007, 9:44am

Ok, here's my NEW plan!

It's a SAD thing that voters have gotten so damn apathetic lately (the last 20 years or so)... SO let's pass a NEW law making it MANDATORY that if you don't VOTE you don't share any benefits that the federal, state or local government hands out......

this includes, but not limited to....

Social Security, medicare, welfare, housing, etc....

And in order to VOTE, you must be a bonified citizen of this country (the US that is) and present a BIRTH CERTIFICATE to the local voting authority showing that you ARE a citizen or naturalization papers showing you ARE a LEGAL citizen of this country. (A driver's license will not do it). This is NOT discrimination - it's just plain common sense!

In my opinion this would get people off their apathetic butts and MAKE them get involved in finding out who is giving them the most bang for their buck and seeing that they do it or voting them OUT of office.

Might get some people off welfare also --

Ok, so there's a few flaws to work out, but it's a start...

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 18^th, 2007, 10:25am

The ones who don't currently vote will then simply vote for whoever is promising the biggest handout.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by nani on Aug 18^th, 2007, 10:28am

on 08/18/07 at 09:44:33, BarbaraD wrote:

SO let's pass a NEW law making it MANDATORY that if you don't VOTE you don't share any benefits that the federal, state or local government hands out......

Doesn't that kind of kill the idea of freedom?
Lots of people who don't vote don't get government hand outs, anyway. And, sorry, Social Security is NOT a hand out. We pay it up front.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by rolo65 on Aug 18^th, 2007, 10:39am

Try some OxyClinton!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUyE_ZB8kac

Rolo on the floor [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by john_d on Aug 18^th, 2007, 10:56am

I gotta say I like the natural selection result of those who don't care just not voting.

I'd also love to see the majority of people vote for the candidate they really believe in this time, forget about whether they think they can win or not, or even worse, voting against another candidate. But this time really vote for the person based on their quals. The public watches the elections like it's a football game and they are arm-chair quarterbacks trying to tell their team how to win. A big news item is which candidate has collected the most campaign funds. Do people realize what that means? It means that to a certian degree candidates actually buy elections!!!! How much does that suck? And people sit there and watch it and say, 'yay, my candidate has the most money to buy the election!'. Good grief.

This election brought to you by corporate America.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 18^th, 2007, 3:15pm

on 08/18/07 at 09:44:33, BarbaraD wrote:

This is pretty much what they do in Australia. I'm not sure what happens if you don't vote. I believe that it's pretty much a requirment.

Where are you Brian?

The goal of the comfortable has always been to keep people sorta happy but not too well educated; anything so they don't rock the boat. This is why voting here isn't seriously encouraged. It is today by the religious right, but it's sneaky and not many politicians really care about them other than at election times. The counter to this will likely be National health care. Not long from now; if you don't support it, you'll be dead in the water.

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by 1stdonna on Aug 18^th, 2007, 8:55pm

Who is there to vote for? No one that I care to see in office, and from the sounds of this thread, none that any of you do either.

So what do we do? Wait for the U.S. to fall? If you think it can't happen, you are dreaming.

So we get everybody out to vote...for who and so what? It's a little late....we've been too complacent for too long. It has taken years to brainwash us to this point of slavery. In the late 1960's my husband predicted this would happen someday, and guess what?We are a people afraid to take control of our lives and children's future. The United Kingdom feels sorry for us as do the French and Canadians. They would not put up with this. We are #37 on the world scale for decent health care. Our unemployment rate is a scam.....they call working for minimum wage employment? Do you know how many people earn under $15,000.00 per year? It's just too sad that this once great country has sunk(sank?) to this level.

That's enough for now. Going to go take a cold shower and cool off.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 18^th, 2007, 9:35pm

If God had wanted us to vote, he would have given us candidates.--Jay Leno.

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.-- FDR

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 18^th, 2007, 10:30pm

on 08/18/07 at 21:35:28, Charlie wrote:

Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth.-- FDR

Charlie

FDR is truly a great President. Maybe in 1940 people were smart enough to see through the 'truth in repetition', but today, that is sadly untrue.

Repetition of lies and bumper stickers is what gave Bush Jr the Presidency in 04. Even today the mentally challenged still even believe some of that shit.

I am in Oregon, btw

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by notseinfeld on Aug 19^th, 2007, 2:46am

In my view the entire spectrum has sadly shifted to the left in no small part due to a whining 'rest of the world' envious for too many years and too many handouts from the US. Giveaways, in the form of the unconstitutional foreign aid do not bring appreciation, they bring resentment.

Let's try the 3rd option of limited government and personal responsibility: The Libertarian Party.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 19^th, 2007, 2:48am

on 08/19/07 at 02:46:59, notseinfeld wrote:

personal responsibility

This will not happen in the USA in our lifetime. Funny joke, though.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 19^th, 2007, 10:53am

on 08/19/07 at 02:46:59, notseinfeld wrote:

U. S. foreign aid, while higher than other countries, but lower than U. N. recommended levels by wealthy countries, amounts to less than 1% of the Federal budget.

The Libertarians have a lot of appeal to me so long as they realize that there are some physically damaged people not able to provide for themselves or participate in bootstrap pulling. I'm not sure that's the case. It's a baby with the bathwater thing, but I'll take them over the current occupiers of the the White House. Republicans used to have a Libertarian wing. No more.

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by notseinfeld on Aug 19^th, 2007, 1:23pm

Y'know Charlie, when I suspect the entire Democratic party of having come off their hinges and being the communist party in disguise there's always a reasonable man in the mix: that's you. I do wonder how you got there but at least for purposes here I can get a logical answer in the world of A means A, not A means non-A.

So, if the Libertarian's (pro-freedom) outlook is that to relinquish one's mind or fruits of their labor to the whims of what other people consider a more important allocation thereof, which part of that is not slavery? Or, is it only 'a little' serfdom but where we retain a majority of our God given rights?

Quote:

The Libertarians have a lot of appeal to me so long as they realize that there are some physically damaged people not able to provide for themselves

With current entitlements we could even make the case that there are tens of thousands of people whose primary purpose is to live off the government handouts started in such, ahem, caring beginnings. The government cannot give without first taking.

Your thoughts sir? Oh, and how are ya Charlie?!

nots

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Paul98 on Aug 19^th, 2007, 1:55pm

on 08/18/07 at 15:15:26, Charlie wrote:

This is pretty much what they do in Australia. I'm not sure what happens if you don't vote. I believe that it's pretty much a requirment.

Where are you Brian?

The goal of the comfortable has always been to keep people sorta happy but not too well educated; anything so they don't rock the boat. This is why voting here isn't seriously encouraged. It is today by the religious right, but it's sneaky and not many politicians really care about them other than at election times. The counter to this will likely be National health care. Not long from now; if you don't support it, you'll be dead in the water.

Charlie

That says it all Charlie! You hit the nail on the head!

Keep the masses dumb and keep the teat of government jucy and they get re elected.......

The school systems now are a joke and I resent the taxes I pay for a system that dumbs down the young. Do they even tach the three "R's" in school anymore?

-P.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Charlie on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 12:29am

Quote:

Theodore Roosevelt was a Progressive and pretty much liked by Libertarians; Republicans used to be until the neo-conservatives wrecked the party and have been doing a bang up job doing the same to the Constitution.

As I said: I like the Libertarian model and when the GOP kicked them out; they lost me. Republicans are supposed to be mean old penny-pinchers that while pretty stingy, nonetheless help old ladies across the street.

Why am I a Democrat? Easy. The Republicans get together to find better ways of torture; the Democrats try find better ways to deal with health care.

Charlie

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 1:07am

on 08/19/07 at 13:55:04, Paul98 wrote:

Keep the masses dumb and keep the teat of government jucy and they get re elected.......

The school systems now are a joke and I resent the taxes I pay for a system that dumbs down the young. Do they even tach the three "R's" in school anymore?

-P.

Those are some good, albeit funny points.
I whole heartedly agree that the dumbing down of America has hit rock bottom. The school starts it by not teaching about history or math, and teaching about 'feelings'. Then when mainstream TV gets to them, kids dont stand a chance of even knowing right from wrong.
Cant teach the 3 R's anymore because it has been ruled discriminatory to those who don't know the 3 R's.

Like Nani says: 4 out of 3 people have trouble with fractions.

75% of the population is below the average IQ

[smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by nani on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 1:32am

on 08/22/07 at 01:07:36, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

75% of the population is below the average IQ

:-[ If you had not have put the laughing guy there...I don't think I would have got it. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Brewcrew on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 8:05am

on 08/22/07 at 01:07:36, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:

I whole heartedly agree that the dumbing down of America has hit rock bottom.

You think so? Like, it-couldn't-go-any-lower rock bottom?

Just wait.

You might want to make sure you're saving enough for a private school for your little bundle of joy. Or just plan on homeschooling her.

Title: Re: Democratic Presidential Debates
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 22^nd, 2007, 8:12am

on 08/22/07 at 00:29:08, Charlie wrote:

Republicans are supposed to be mean old penny-pinchers that while pretty stingy, nonetheless help old ladies across the street.

Calvin Coolidge sure left an impression on you as a young'un, Charlie. ;)