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Title: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by deltadarlin on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:02pm http://www.reuters.com/article/domesticNews/idUSN2227446920070723?feedType=RSS&rpc=22&sp=true |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:16pm The Fed gov should with hold all highway monies like they did to Louisiana to get them to up their legal drinking age................but they won't. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:21pm "Part of the reason they can't open bank accounts is because they don't have forms of identification that were valid," she said." What part of "Illegal" dont these fucks get? If we send them home they wont get robbed and they wont rob/murder or rape the Americans that Americans dont want to rob/murder or rape! What a fucking joke this country has become! Edited: for clarity. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:27pm I have a better idea, let Texas, New Mexico and Arizona deport all their illegals to Connecticut. I wonder how long it would be before it became a 3rd world "country" with all the third world problems. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:29pm From the article: Critics contend it will unleash a flood of illegal immigration, straining services and wasting taxpayer money. New Haven will offer illegal immigrants municipal identification cards that allow access to city services such as libraries and a chance to open bank accounts. The card was created with several features to appeal to all residents, including a debit component and access to city services such as parks. So, based on that... can someone explain to me how using libraries and parks, or opening bank accounts strain services and waste taxpayer money? ::) |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:30pm on 07/25/07 at 19:27:36, Maffumatt wrote:
Are you shitin me, bro.......they will be coming in droves from there and Mexico! This is THE STUPIDIST fucking thing I have ever heard.....I dont think even fatboy is this stupid! |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:34pm on 07/25/07 at 19:29:50, nani wrote:
Sure! on 07/25/07 at 19:29:50, nani wrote:
City services?.......just what are those?.....just parks? Try welfare and medicade and that taxpayer gold.....LOL |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 7:54pm 14 Reasons to Deport Illegal Aliens.. 1. $11 Billion to $22 billion is spent on welfare to illegal aliens each year. http://tinyurl.com/zob77 2. $2.2 Billion dollars a year is spent on food assistance programs such as food stamps, WIC, and free school lunches for illegal aliens. http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 3. $2.5 Billion dollars a year is spent on Medicaid for illegal aliens. http://www.cis..org/articles/2004/fiscalexec.html 4. $12 Billion dollars a year is spent on primary and secondary school education for children here illegally and they cannot speak a word of English! http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 5. $17 Billion dollars a year is spent for education for the American-born children of illegal aliens, known as anchor babies. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 6. $3 Million Dollars a DAY is spent to incarcerate illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 7. 30% percent of all Federal Prison inmates are illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 8. $90 Billion Dollars a year is spent on illegal aliens for Welfare & social services by the American taxpayers. http://premium.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0610/29/ldt.01.html 9. $200 Billion Dollars a year in suppressed American wages are caused by the illegal aliens. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0604/01/ldt.01.html 10. The illegal aliens in the United States have a crime rate that’s two and a half times that of white non-illegal aliens. In particular, their children, are going to make a huge additional crime problem in the United States . http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0606/12/ldt.01.html 11. During the year of 2005 there were 4 to 10 MILLION illegal aliens that crossed our Southern Border also, as many as 19,500 illegal aliens from Terrorist Countries. Millions of pounds of drugs, cocaine, meth, heroine and marijuana, crossed into the U. S. from the Southern border. Homeland Security Report: http://tinyurl.com/t9sht 12. The National Policy Institute, "estimated that the total cost of mass deportation would be between $206 and $230 billion or an average cost of between $41 and $46 billion annually over a five year period." http://www.nationalpolicyinstitute.org/pdf/deportation.pdf 13. In 2006 illegal aliens sent home $45 BILLION in remittances back to their countries of origin. http://www.rense.com/general75/niht.htm 14. "The Dark Side of Illegal Immigration: Nearly One Million Sex Crimes Committed by Illegal Immigrants In The United States ". http://www.drdsk.com/articleshtml So using the LOWEST estimates, the annual cost OF ILLEGAL ALIENS is $338.3 BILLION DOLLARS A YEAR! So if deporting them costs between $206 and $230 BILLION DOLLARS, Hell get rid of em’, We’ll be ahead after the 1st year!!! .............................................................. Pleas, please, please read the comments at the bottom of this link, they are comments from AMERICANS! http://www.capoliticalnews.com/s/spip.php?article274 |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:06pm Can I vote for a dead guy? How Eisenhower solved illegal border crossings from Mexico By John Dillin WASHINGTON George W. Bush isn't the first Republican president to face a full-blown immigration crisis on the US-Mexican border. Fifty-three years ago, when newly elected Dwight Eisenhower moved into the White House, America's southern frontier was as porous as a spaghetti sieve. As many as 3 million illegal migrants had walked and waded northward over a period of several years for jobs in California, Arizona, Texas, and points beyond. President Eisenhower cut off this illegal traffic. He did it quickly and decisively with only 1,075 United States Border Patrol agents - less than one-tenth of today's force. The operation is still highly praised among veterans of the Border Patrol. Although there is little to no record of this operation in Ike's official papers, one piece of historic evidence indicates how he felt. In 1951, Ike wrote a letter to Sen. William Fulbright (D) of Arkansas. The senator had just proposed that a special commission be created by Congress to examine unethical conduct by government officials who accepted gifts and favors in exchange for special treatment of private individuals. General Eisenhower, who was gearing up for his run for the presidency, said "Amen" to Senator Fulbright's proposal. He then quoted a report in The New York Times, highlighting one paragraph that said: "The rise in illegal border-crossing by Mexican 'wetbacks' to a current rate of more than 1,000,000 cases a year has been accompanied by a curious relaxation in ethical standards extending all the way from the farmer-exploiters of this contraband labor to the highest levels of the Federal Government." Years later, the late Herbert Brownell Jr., Eisenhower's first attorney general, said in an interview with this writer that the president had a sense of urgency about illegal immigration when he took office. America "was faced with a breakdown in law enforcement on a very large scale," Mr. Brownell said. "When I say large scale, I mean hundreds of thousands were coming in from Mexico [every year] without restraint." Although an on-and-off guest-worker program for Mexicans was operating at the time, farmers and ranchers in the Southwest had become dependent on an additional low-cost, docile, illegal labor force of up to 3 million, mostly Mexican, laborers. According to the Handbook of Texas Online, published by the University of Texas at Austin and the Texas State Historical Association, this illegal workforce had a severe impact on the wages of ordinary working Americans. The Handbook Online reports that a study by the President's Commission on Migratory Labor in Texas in 1950 found that cotton growers in the Rio Grande Valley, where most illegal aliens in Texas worked, paid wages that were "approximately half" the farm wages paid elsewhere in the state. Profits from illegal labor led to the kind of corruption that apparently worried Eisenhower. Joseph White, a retired 21-year veteran of the Border Patrol, says that in the early 1950s, some senior US officials overseeing immigration enforcement "had friends among the ranchers," and agents "did not dare" arrest their illegal workers. Walt Edwards, who joined the Border Patrol in 1951, tells a similar story. He says: "When we caught illegal aliens on farms and ranches, the farmer or rancher would often call and complain [to officials in El Paso]. And depending on how politically connected they were, there would be political intervention. That is how we got into this mess we are in now." |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:06pm Bill Chambers, who worked for a combined 33 years for the Border Patrol and the then-called US Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS), says politically powerful people are still fueling the flow of illegals. During the 1950s, however, this "Good Old Boy" system changed under Eisenhower - if only for about 10 years. In 1954, Ike appointed retired Gen. Joseph "Jumpin' Joe" Swing, a former West Point classmate and veteran of the 101st Airborne, as the new INS commissioner. Influential politicians, including Sen. Lyndon B. Johnson (D) of Texas and Sen. Pat McCarran (D) of Nevada, favored open borders, and were dead set against strong border enforcement, Brownell said. But General Swing's close connections to the president shielded him - and the Border Patrol - from meddling by powerful political and corporate interests. One of Swing's first decisive acts was to transfer certain entrenched immigration officials out of the border area to other regions of the country where their political connections with people such as Senator Johnson would have no effect. Then on June 17, 1954, what was called "Operation Wetback" began. Because political resistance was lower in California and Arizona, the roundup of aliens began there. Some 750 agents swept northward through agricultural areas with a goal of 1,000 apprehensions a day. By the end of July, over 50,000 aliens were caught in the two states. Another 488,000, fearing arrest, had fled the country. By mid-July, the crackdown extended northward into Utah, Nevada, and Idaho, and eastward to Texas. By September, 80,000 had been taken into custody in Texas, and an estimated 500,000 to 700,000 illegals had left the Lone Star State voluntarily. Unlike today, Mexicans caught in the roundup were not simply released at the border, where they could easily reenter the US. To discourage their return, Swing arranged for buses and trains to take many aliens deep within Mexico before being set free. Tens of thousands more were put aboard two hired ships, the Emancipation and the Mercurio. The ships ferried the aliens from Port Isabel, Texas, to Vera Cruz, Mexico, more than 500 miles south. The sea voyage was "a rough trip, and they did not like it," says Don Coppock, who worked his way up from Border Patrolman in 1941 to eventually head the Border Patrol from 1960 to 1973. Mr. Coppock says he "cannot understand why [President] Bush let [today's] problem get away from him as it has. I guess it was his compassionate conservatism, and trying to please [Mexican President] Vincente Fox." There are now said to be 12 million to 20 million illegal aliens in the US. Of the Mexicans who live here, an estimated 85 percent are here illegally. http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0706/p09s01-coop.htm |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:17pm This is the only problem I have with that link, John "Mr. Coppock says he "cannot understand why [President] Bush let [today's] problem get away from him as it has. I guess it was his compassionate conservatism, and trying to please [Mexican President] Vincente Fox." This has been going on for decades, you cant pin the whole thing on the idiot we have now. They all (presidents) need to take blame for letting this happen! Great link, though!!!! |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by JenniferD on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:31pm and you want to know the bottom line of all this? Freakin people like me, who are American and work(ed) full time yet made not enough money at the time to support my children, couldn't get assistance because...................... I made too much money. My take home was 15,000 for me and 2 kids to live on. And I couldn't get any temporary help at all. Not one dime. So fuck the illegals. VA is now trying to get a bill passed that will start the deportation process while the illegal criminals are incarcerated and not waiting for the feds to get to it. I am all for this one! |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 8:46pm I used to work at a paper mill, I mad e good money for that area, in the space of 3 years the work force in my trade was taken over by illegals, my wage dropped from almost 17 dollars an hour, it is now 9 dollars for the same job there. They DO NOT just take jobs Americans don't want. They just undercut it to where it is not a living wage any more and Americans can not afford to do the work. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Lenny on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:16pm [quote author=nani So, based on that... can someone explain to me how using libraries and parks, or opening bank accounts strain services and waste taxpayer money? [/quote] ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) 1) watch what will happen.......( you will be amazed ) 2) a good portion of them will get public assistance and work under a differant name,ss#,etc. 3) go to your local emergancy rooms and see who is there (who's paying for that???) 4) i helped this guy who i grew up with,he is paranoid schizophrenia,it took him 13 years on the wait list to get hud (now you have to be a u.s. citizen to receive this) the building that he is living in,if i had to guess is atleast 50% illegals (how the fuck did they get this)and the majority dont speak english?? because thats who work's there and who makes the decisions,who gets it and who doesn't.( i guess that is why hud had all these financial problems ( i beleive it was last year that i read about that) 5) i saw with my own eye's(i brought him down there on 3-4 differant meetings,may i add that he worked his whole life prior this illiness affected him and he is a veteran aswell. My intention is not to offend anyone.........Lenny |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:28pm Lenny, do you think that all people who don't speak English are illegal? Do you assume that every Latino person you see in public housing are illegal? So, if that and what Jonny links to are true, and illegals are getting all these benefits meant only for US citizens... who is really to blame here? US and state govenment workers, and companies that employ illegals... or the illegals themselves? /typos |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by lionsound on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:28pm Curious about something.... How many of you that have replied to this thread live or have ever lived in New Haven? |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:39pm on 07/25/07 at 21:28:10, lionsound wrote:
Do you really think that matters, Rori? This is fucked up and I pay enough taxes, I dont need that shit where I live......I already pay for these fucks! Are you happy that your real estate taxes or any other taxes will go up to pay for them and their families, Rori? Or maybe you could take a family of five into your house and write it off on your taxes.......gimmie a break! |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by john_d on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:41pm on 07/25/07 at 21:28:10, lionsound wrote:
Explain to me how that matters? As an American city, they are setting a precedent. If they are here illegally, regardless of who is to blame, they are providing 'enabling' government services to someone our government laws say is committing a crime by being here in the first place. It's pretty simple really. Regardless of bleeding hearts or spanish-speaking loyalties, it's against the law. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:43pm New Haven today........your home town tomorrow. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by nani on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:44pm Spanish speaking loyalties?!? LMAO, john. So, again, I pose this question: Hey, you can sneak into Canada, make up to 10X what you're making here, get all the benefits the citizens get.... are you gonna pass that up? A better future for yourself and your family? Who is really at fault here. Yell all you want about the "criminals" and go back and vote for the guys who protect the interests of the criminal corporations and businesses. I'm done. If I could speak Spanish, I'd say that in Spanish. ::) |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:50pm Your right, Nani....thats why I am speaking the fuck up! When it gets bad enough the malitia will start to form and handle it! ;;D |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by lionsound on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:51pm I didn't ask if it matters... I asked who has lived there. I lived there 22+ years and my Mom and my brother still live there. I also did NOT give an opinion on the matter...I only asked a simple question and two people assume that I took a side. I asked because my Mom and I had a lenghty discussion about this a few hours ago and she was able to tell me the local political and social climate on both sides which that skimpy news article leaves out. The things that frosts me about this thread is that people are making grand assumptions about a local decision EITHER WAY. I would not assume I know something about Dallas, Texas unless I walked a few million miles in shoes there. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by lionsound on Jul 25th, 2007, 9:52pm on 07/25/07 at 21:43:54, Maffumatt wrote:
don't you vote? |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:18pm on 07/25/07 at 21:51:56, lionsound wrote:
Then maybe you should have included that in your post instead of setting people up for you rant, no? |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:24pm on 07/25/07 at 21:52:53, lionsound wrote:
Yes I do. Please show me where the people were allowed to vote on this matter. I must have misses it. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:36pm This must be it........ "New Haven officials overwhelmingly approved the program last month in a 25 to 1 vote." I am to assume 25 out of 26 of all voters there approve. #1 rule in my job is Don't assume anything..... |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by lionsound on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:48pm New haven has a board of Aldermen, which are elected locally, by wards, throughout the city. My mom said the 25-1 vote came from that board. on 07/25/07 at 22:18:08, Jonny wrote:
(did I really rant? ...I hardly ever do that around here...go me! ;;D) |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by BlueMeanie on Jul 25th, 2007, 10:58pm We already have a towns here in this area that are like that. You no longer have to be, or (want-to-be) U.S. citizens to live in the U.S. and get benefits. What kills me is that I thought that was why people come here. So they can disassociate themselves from the country they don't want to be in. No longer peeps. Continue to be a foreigner and collect from good ol' Uncle Sam. Why not, if we're gonna give it out, they're gonna take it. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by BlueMeanie on Jul 25th, 2007, 11:03pm on 07/25/07 at 22:48:22, lionsound wrote:
My guess is they voted that way cuz they want to be re-elected by the same people who they just gave free reign to our tax payers benefits. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by thebbz on Jul 25th, 2007, 11:18pm I like Ike ;;D Somebody say load the gun and escort these people to the border? [smiley=bigguns.gif]I'm in. We are being invaded by illegal aliens and no one will stand up. >:(Fire all the politicians who vote for illegals invading our country. [smiley=sayno.gif] Fine all the employers using illegal labor. [smiley=sayno.gif]I would gladly pay taxes for that. [smiley=sayyes.gif] Quote:
Honest to goodness traitors. They should be fired. [smiley=mad.gif] click post dummy thebb |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Charlie on Jul 25th, 2007, 11:35pm Wow. The thing is that this is about illegals. It would be nice if the Neo Cons and the Democrats would do what needs to be done for the country rather than to get elected. It's really all about the Republicans on the side of cheap labor and the Democrats' idea that immigrants will vote for them. It's gonna be nasty and will continue so until we elect Lou Dobbs Presiddent :o 8) :D New Haven will have to get used to a whole new set of legislators next time. How dumb can they get? I read somewhere that all this immigration is about to level off. I wish I could believe it. Damn this must be a great country. Everybody wants to come here. Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/cranky pat.gif |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Klusterkopf on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:30am No doubt-the International Jewish Conspiracy is behind letting all of those brown skinned, Spanish speaking criminals (85% someone posted) into the US, with the goal of creating mixed race bastard children whom they can then control. Amerika erwach! Start building those concentration camps and work them all to death! The Mengele Company over here will gladly help you build them. >:( :P Obersturmbandfuehrer Jonny should be put in charge of the "final solution" to this problem. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2007, 12:56am So long as they keep you over THERE, I think we'll be OK. You are a true nut dude, try increasing that voltage a little. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Klusterkopf on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:00am on 07/26/07 at 00:56:21, Maffumatt wrote:
Good idea-put electrified fences around the camps! ::) |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Maffumatt on Jul 26th, 2007, 1:19am if they do, will you pee on it? |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Lenny on Jul 26th, 2007, 2:20am on 07/25/07 at 21:28:03, nani wrote:
1) As i stated in my first responce.......it was not intended to offend "anyone". 2) Did i mention the word "latino" ::) ::)?????? no i did not...you did,and for what ever reason assumed that. 3) The people in his complex that i was talking about are russian,armenian and i beleive 1 family is from iran. 4) And finally yes there are many (as you call them latino's) that are eating up alot of our resource's....BTW,did i mention that i am not prejudice, just sick and disguested of what is happening to this wonderful country. 5) To be honest,i really dont know why i am responding to your ? I guess you remind me of my ex-wife ;) PFDAN to all.......Lenny |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 26th, 2007, 4:48am National Guard along border will be cut in half http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0725bordersecurity25-on.html?&wired |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by BarbaraD on Jul 26th, 2007, 7:26am We as a nation stopped the guest worker bill by voicing our opinions where it mattered. Our "elected" politicians were "afraid" to go agaist us, but apparently the cowboy in DC didn't hear anything he didn't want to hear and goes right ahead with "his" plans. We need to ENFORCE the laws that are the books now and STOP illegal immigration and STOP paying for all the FREE services for these illegals. As the press is fond of saying - Follow the money! You and I can't afford to get sick or to purchase our meds because of the costs, but we can GIVE FREE to illegals what we can't afford to people who don't even pay taxes. This is what we as Americans should be yelling bloody murder about right now. I personally think New Haven has opened up a can of worms, but that's just my opinion. I hope the rest of the country doesn't follow suit. In Texas (and it's it court now) one city made it illegal to even rent to an illegal. Some bleeding hearts thought this was "illegal". Why? But I guess the judge agreed with them and it will be a big court case sometime in the future. If it's illegal for them to be here why shouldn't it be illegal to rent to them or to hire them? All we can hope for right now (as I see it) is that the "voters" will see the light and get out and vote some people in to Congress and the White house that have some SENSE and get these bleeding hearts OUT! Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by deltadarlin on Jul 26th, 2007, 8:43am We do need to expand the worker program that is already in place. Up here, we are a huge farming/agri-business area. Farmers cannot find enough people to work for harvest. The average wage for a farm worker up here is $10.00 an hour. What is so sad, is that where these farms are located, the unemployment rate is in the double digits (in some areas, it goes over 20%). We have a Chinese restaurant here, all the kitchen help is of Latino origin and to my knowledge, none speak English, HOWEVER, that has nothing to do with whether they are illegal or not. My first baby sitter and her family was from Mexico (they were here legally). She spoke fluent English with a Mexican accent. Her daddy spoke English, but not as well, her mother spoke no English at all. Go down to south Louisiana where the shrimpers are. They are predominantly Vietnamese. Many do not speak a word of English., although their children do. They are legal and some of the hardest workers you will ever find. I don't have a problem with people coming to the US to make a better life for themselves, just do it legally (and I am quite aware of how difficult it is). Don't expect to *go to the front of the line* in front of others that have worked their asses off to get here legally and are going through the proper channels to establish citizenship(which is what the failed immigrant bill would have done). CT is just a blip on the radar screen right now. There are several US cities that have distinguished themselves as safe havens for illegal aliens (one in Virginia that I know of and there are others). And, yes, this has to be stopped at the source and the source is not the illegals, it is the employers who are hiring them. We don't need any more legislation, enforce the laws that are already on the books and it will suffice. 'darlin |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by john_d on Jul 26th, 2007, 9:59am on 07/25/07 at 21:44:45, nani wrote:
Yep, being in Orlando I know lots of PR folks and when you really get them talking many of them seem like they want to open the border wide up regardless of the consequences. Spanish-speaking loyalties, or hoping for a larger latin voting block, is my best conjecture as to why. Enlighten me if you'd like, or just laugh it up; but I'll keep believing it because it's what I see. |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Jonny on Jul 26th, 2007, 5:58pm Drug Smuggler given all access pass to USA by Johnny Sutton http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7cc_1185464501 |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Sandy_C on Jul 26th, 2007, 6:57pm on 07/25/07 at 19:54:27, Jonny wrote:
Jonny, I cannot argue with one thing that you have posted here. But, let's put the horse before the cart. It's called: SECURE THE BORDERS This, to me is primary. If the borders are left as open as they are today, what point it is to try to deport the 12 million or so illegals here now? None. Close the borders, completely, which means, to you Mr. and Mrs. American citizen that should you travel out of your country, you had better be able to prove your citizenship upon re-entry. I have no problem with that, do you? Once the borders are secured and locked, then, and only then can we concentrate on removing the illegals here. Commit a crime, deportation. Picked up for speeding and illegal, immediate deportation. I don't frankly give a rammy tam if they have an amercan born baby or not (which is a whole nother thread), you are outta here! bottom line....SECURE THE BORDERS, STUPID! (not you Jonny, our wondeful elected officials both left and righ) Sandy |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by Charlie on Jul 26th, 2007, 9:39pm Quote:
This is how you spell: "Obersturmbanfuhrer," by the way. Shut up putz. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/jerk off.gif We do all right over here. It's one of the few things that I'm sure of. That it's discussed and griped about with such zeal demonstrates it. The difference is that here, we beat up ourselves first rather than the people with the problem. Charlie |
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Title: Re: New Haven, *new haven* for illegals Post by BarbaraD on Jul 27th, 2007, 4:52pm Carolyn, you're right. I have clients that speak very little English, but are here LEGALLY and work their little butts off TO pay taxes and have a better life than they had in Mexico or Cambodia. I'm all FOR them, but NOT for the illegals. Secure the borders. I'm not adverse to showing my passport and proving I'm an American citizen to get back into this country - why should anyone else. I've traveled all over the world and this is the easiest country to get INTO I've ever seen. Even when you're questioned and you give "blonde" answers (and I have a few times) they just laugh and let you right in. Hell, I was coming back from Venezuela thru Houston one time and got stopped for questioning. This little guy asked me what I was doing in Venezuela - I told him visiting my husband. "Is he Venezuelan?" NO. "What is he doing in Venezuela?" Working. "For who?" I don't know (and I didn't). "Where does he live?" I don't know - it's somewhere out of Caracus. "What's his address?" I don't have a clue - it's an apartment. "Do you visit often?" When I feel like it. "Ok move on." He didn't even check my carryon to see if I was smuggling - I don't think I was that time. :D We just don't have OUR priorities straight. It would be easier to STOP people at the borders than FIND them after they get in. Geezz! Hugs BD |
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