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(Message started by: Ray on Jul 6^th, 2007, 4:28pm)

Title: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Ray on Jul 6^th, 2007, 4:28pm

Hello everyone:

As some of you may know, via the chat here, my wife is starting up a small business selling herbs and bath products. (This is not an advert, but if interested, PM please).

We were discussing how some smells tend to be triggers for my CH, and she was wondering if that was a common thread with CH. Unscented soap and lotion are easy to find, but unsented bubble bath, shampoo, and conditioner are difficult to find, if you can find them at all. Therefore, we were wondering if there would be any point in making a line of unscented bath products, or if normal bath products don't seem to be a problem.

Additionally, I wanted to list some of my "trigger smells," and ask that you do the same. Perhaps there's some correlation there that bears further research.

Car exhaust
freshly cut grass
sweet floral perfumes
raw gasoline fumes
some artificial fibers and plastics, ie. eg. new vinyl shower curtains or new carpeting
nail polish and remover (acetone?)

That's all for now, but I am curious about your responses and look forward to reading them.

Wishing you PF days and nights,

Ray

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Rosybabe on Jul 6^th, 2007, 4:30pm

cigarrete??? cigar???

everything else does not bother me...well just the clorox smell ..

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by taraann on Jul 6^th, 2007, 5:01pm

Right now the house smells like spackle... and it's not all the complimentary on my noggin.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Redd on Jul 6^th, 2007, 5:03pm

When I was getting hit there for years on end...

asphalt
certain petrolium products (boot waterproofing spray as an example)
Pine Sol
Diesel Exhaust

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by catlind on Jul 6^th, 2007, 5:08pm

Diesel fumes
Vicks vapo products of any kind...I would use the nasal thingie because of the congestion not understanding that was in fact making things much worse.

Other than that I have no 'consistent' odor triggers, sometimes some will, sometimes they won't.

I personally would LOVE an entire unscented bath/spa product line, as not only do I concern with my CH, but I have psoriasis, and most of the perfumes used will make it much worse.

Anything for sensitive skin in that product line??

Cat

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Guiseppi on Jul 6^th, 2007, 5:54pm

I'm lucky, smells were never a trigger for me. Which is suprising sense my nose takes up most of my face!!!! My wife has the keenest sense of smell on the planet so I can't wear any kind of aftershave, scented deodorants, scented dryer sheets, anything!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Brewcrew on Jul 6^th, 2007, 6:44pm

Zero olfactory triggers for me.

Only trigger I know of is alcohol. Everybody says nitroglycerine will do it, but I've never had the pleasure.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Ray on Jul 6^th, 2007, 7:51pm

Cat: I've passed it on to my lovely wife, who hopes to PM you back tonight sometime.

It's interesting that the responses so far with many of the triggers involving petro-chemicals in some way.

The triggers I've listed only seem to be partial triggers for me, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't, and only when I'm in my "high hit season."

I will say this, when I'm having a hit, odors are magnified, seemingly, hundreds of times. Like I can smell the neighbors cat box....

Wishing you PF days and nights,

Ray

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Jonny on Jul 6^th, 2007, 7:56pm

Never had any triggers, I guess it was God giving me a break for giving me 32 years of chronic fucking pain!

What kind of "loving God" would let people suffer like that?

Hmmmmmmmm!

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by artonio7 on Jul 6^th, 2007, 7:58pm

I can't think of any detectible scents which act as triggers for me.

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by BobG on Jul 6^th, 2007, 8:03pm

The detergent isle in the supermarket, the perfume area in stores like Macy’s and those shops that sell scented candles are all places for me to stay away from.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by HerbLady on Jul 6^th, 2007, 8:21pm

Poking my head in for a second....

Do you think it's the smells themselves, or does it have to do with the INTENSITY of the smell?

The detergent aisle in the store REEKS, and so do those scented candle places...YUCK! Do you also have a problem with just one box of detergent, or just one scented candle?

I'm also finding the petrochemical connection interesting...almost makes ya wish you were amish......

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Lenny on Jul 6^th, 2007, 9:16pm

Diesel exhaust...........

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Patrick_A on Jul 6^th, 2007, 9:33pm

I never thought about it.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Charlie on Jul 7^th, 2007, 1:32am

I never thought about it either. I have to wonder if there was something. I never had a food or drink connection that I could find.

Charlie

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Mosaicwench on Jul 7^th, 2007, 7:58am

I'm a supporter rather than a sufferer, so no pain triggers for me.

HOWEVER, I'm very sensitive to a lot of smells and would LOVE an unscented herbal line of products. I like to smell like ME, not the products that came out of the bottle in the morning.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Mosaicwench on Jul 7^th, 2007, 8:02am

on 07/06/07 at 20:21:36, HerbLady wrote:

I'm also finding the petrochemical connection interesting...almost makes ya wish you were amish......

Not really!! I love electricity and air conditioning. [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

Diesel exhaust brings back memories of past vacations - especially in Europe. And I LOVE the smell of gasoline.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by michael on Jul 7^th, 2007, 10:23am

Emulsion paint can cause shadowing

Mike

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Maffumatt on Jul 7^th, 2007, 11:30am

Fingernail polish remover (acetone) is the worst for me, its banned in my house. Diesel ehaust is next on the list for me.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by catlind on Jul 7^th, 2007, 3:15pm

I grew up in the petrochemical valley in Sarnia Ontario. When they are spilling styrene, polystyrene, napalm, and various other wonderful chemicals, I am not surprised to a supersensitivity to them.

I am most interested in what you wife is doing Ray and have already responded to her PM and questions.

I have 2 children that have psoriasis and are in remission, so it is an opportunity for me to ensure that the dangers of flare remain as impotent as possible.

Cat

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by George_J on Jul 8^th, 2007, 2:26am

No scent or food triggers that I'm aware of--and I've tried to isolate same over the years.

Best,

George

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by tanner on Jul 8^th, 2007, 5:18am

exhaust......tim

some perfumes too.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by Turts on Jul 8^th, 2007, 4:20pm

paint thinners/strippers
fuel

are triggers
however, i do use lavender and peppermint during cycle to help relax and recoup

Turts

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by BobG on Jul 8^th, 2007, 5:58pm

on 07/06/07 at 20:21:36, HerbLady wrote:

Do you think it's the smells themselves, or does it have to do with the INTENSITY of the smell? It may be the intensity. The detergent aisles are so strong with the smell that you can sometimes taste it. Maybe it's a chemical reaction? Heck, I don't know. A quick trip through the aisle is ok but a stop of more that 30 seconds and I'll feel a shadow starting.

The detergent aisle in the store REEKS, and so do those scented candle places...YUCK! Do you also have a problem with just one box of detergent, or just one scented candle? One box of detergent, such as we have by the washer at home, doesn't bother me. One candle, if it's in another room, doesn't bother me. I don't like to be in the same room with the burning candle though.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by sldrswyfe on Jul 9^th, 2007, 8:57am

Lavender and bleach.

If the smell of bleach is overwhelming or for a long period of time...ex: I had squeezed gel cleanser with bleach in the bathtub, the phone rang and distracted me from it...all nite I kept getting hit over and over, until I realized I had left cleanser in the tub...I held my breath, scrubbed and rinsed the tub and closed the bathroom door....it helped.

Title: Re: A question from my wife (Herblady)
Post by cash5542 on Jul 10^th, 2007, 3:40pm

I am a supporter too but have bad allergies and migraines. The line you are working with will serve several health issues. For people with asthma and allergies, shampoo/conditioners are a major problem. I don't buy anything with scents. Many allergists have signs not to wear perfumes in the office. We also try to avoid scents in the classroom so that we don't trigger asthma with the kids. Mild fruit scents are not a problem so everything in my house is fruit or unscented. If you can market safe for kids, this would be helpful. Kids with eczema have real issues and need a good unscented line. I could never find bubble bath for Lisa when she was little. Good luck! It sounds like you're on to something.