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Title: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 19th, 2007, 6:00pm Is this really how it is in Minnesota? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=185_1182223058 |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by thebbz on Jun 19th, 2007, 6:33pm They should be led to the border and given the boot. America, love it or leave it. And to think I served proudly to defend these idiots. Double standard for sure. Way to go Hapoo! The wishes of the few outweigh the wishes of the many? fry em all before they get here jb |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 19th, 2007, 6:57pm We have to stop this ball before it gets rolling, just look at whats happening in France and England with this shit! Between this issue and the Mexican border, its only a matter of time before we HAVE to execute our right to the second amendment! The civil war will be small compared to this.....IMO! |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by thebbz on Jun 19th, 2007, 7:05pm Now Jonny you know how I feel about guns.. [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 19th, 2007, 8:05pm This is why I refuse to purchase one cup of (Minnesota based) Caribou coffee. The majority interest in Caribou is held by the Islamic Bank. Use your consumer dollars to express your political views. Edited to modify: It's the Islamic Bank, not the Saudi Bank. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 19th, 2007, 8:31pm are you surprised? |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 19th, 2007, 8:37pm Its world wide! ISLAM...Welcome to Australia. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=a2e_1182220826 This is how Muslims repay the generosity and freedoms afforded them by their newly adopted lands. This is how they take advantage of our Social and Welfare system. Its like the laws dont apply to him, watch how violent he gets when he is confronted. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 19th, 2007, 8:51pm I saw some stuff there but with dialup, I didn't see what you goofs did. Should the Lutherans from Lake Wobegon, Minnesota be alerted? Charlie |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 19th, 2007, 8:59pm I think the Lutherans from Lake Wobegon are well aware, Charlie. They're just not doing anything about it. You know, so as not to offend. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by jimmers on Jun 19th, 2007, 9:23pm They won't handle bacon? I guess handling deodorant is against their rules also! ;;D Jimmers |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 20th, 2007, 12:25am Well, I downloaded this thing. Took about 1/2 hour and I can't replay the thing so I had to listen to it in jerky bits. I don't know how to replay this stuff without going through it again. Not worth it. Similar to several other stories. Nicely retold of course.... Not to worry, Minnesotans and New Yorkers ain't got no patience fer it. I first heard of this about NY cabbies. It's the Detroit area that has the biggest Islam population here, I believe. That would be a good test area. On that, I lived in Utica, NY for 4 years and there are a lot of Syrians there. They assimilated nicely and they have several big farms up there. They took a beating after 9-11 and hung up all kinds of patriotic stuff trying to save their local business. Zogby of the Zogby Polls that you read of comes from Oneida Co. Arabs. It's not going to be like a lot of Europe when it comes to Islamic culture. Here, you have to play by our rules or you get nowhere. A lot of the immigration zoo in D. C. revolves around this too. MOC |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by JeffB on Jun 20th, 2007, 12:38am We will be Europe in 20 yers! "Where's the fence??" :-/ |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Turts on Jun 20th, 2007, 1:43am Quote:
a fence wont save ya we are surrouned by the worlds biggest moat, and they still got into our castle. Just like Braveheart, they are going to breed us out!!! Turts |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by zwibbs/Scott on Jun 20th, 2007, 5:15am If someone refused to sell me alcohol, cigarettes, or bacon, I would have no alternative but to kick the spit out of them ! |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by burnt-toast on Jun 20th, 2007, 8:06am These are classic examples of division and separatism that granting special accommodations to “Diversity” breeds within a nation. The Constitution does not guarantee the right to seek preferential treatment/laws/restrictions to accommodate “Diversity”. The Constitution simply guarantees that individuals will not be discriminated against because of “Diversity”. Outside of common sense laws supporting human rights and guiding civil society, government and law are to be immune from influence by what the Founders believed to be historically troublesome and unrealistic influences of “Diversity” that suppress freedoms and force national division. But instead when anyone decides they disagree or disapprove of something they scream discrimination and infringement on their rights to protection from anything they deem offensive. Congress scrambles to pass restrictive new laws to accommodate “Protection From” instead of “Freedom Of” diversity. Then in the complete reverse immigrants entering the country freely demand that everyone abide by their specific cultural/religious beliefs and laws and receive special accommodations at public expense for their “Diversity”? The founding principals of the nation have been grossly twisted and it has to stop now. As I understand it, this was established as “One Nation” guided by laws and principals that accepted the inherent differences of “Diversity”. Not as a “Divided Nation” guided by wide-scale accommodation of oppressive (I’m sorry) “Diverse” laws/beliefs of other nations, cultures, religions and all too common extreme political views that have become separatist influences. It's our elected and re-elected representatives that are supporting this nonsense. It's time elect represenatatives that live up to their oath to defend the Constitution and stop supporting those that flagrantly re-interpret the Constitution to suite their political agendas. Tom |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Paul98 on Jun 20th, 2007, 8:30am Now here's an idea: Take the politicians that encourage the double standard of forbiding Christams in schools, no public displays of the hollidays yet coddle to the pressure if the islamists...TAKE THERE ASS AND THROW THEM IN IRAN, PAKISTAN OR ANY OTHER "STAN" and see how they like living there. Think they would live long enough to see the sun set? -P. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 20th, 2007, 8:52pm I have to agree with Tom. :o Multi-culturalism is fine so long as you don't make me have to deal with it when I don't want it. Learning is fine though. I remember when in fourth grade we were assigned to find something to wear representing other cultures for an afternoon. It was sorta interesting but the point is that it was educational, not something we had to put up with 24/7. If you want to howl at the moon in your church; fine but do it there. Don't ask be to get involved. Americans don't care so long as you don't give us a hard time for being what we are. The Constitution isn't something that needs a lot of help. Charlie |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 20th, 2007, 9:20pm on 06/20/07 at 20:52:19, Charlie wrote:
I finally figured out why I love you so much, Charlie! :-* |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Mosaicwench on Jun 21st, 2007, 7:33am on 06/19/07 at 20:37:26, Jonny wrote:
In an Islamic mindset, no law but Sharia Law applies to them . . . . that's why honor killings and gang rapes and other horrors are okay with them - it's the only law they obey. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 21st, 2007, 7:44am Honor killings, gang rapes, etc. are not part of Islamic law, they are part of the laws of the various tribes and predate Islam. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 21st, 2007, 8:01am on 06/21/07 at 07:44:09, Klusterkopf wrote:
Tick...tick...tick...tick... |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 21st, 2007, 9:09am on 06/21/07 at 08:01:14, Brewcrew wrote:
Ignorance is bliss...tick...tick...tick |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 21st, 2007, 10:33am on 06/21/07 at 09:09:06, Klusterkopf wrote:
Love you too, babe... :-* |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 21st, 2007, 1:34pm on 06/21/07 at 10:33:00, Brewcrew wrote:
Du bist suess ::)! Schoen gute Nacht. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 21st, 2007, 1:38pm ::) |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 21st, 2007, 4:48pm This guy is right on! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=fa8_1182431311 |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by andrewjb on Jun 23rd, 2007, 4:44pm [smiley=thumb.gif], heres to peace. if recient experance has been " groan loud and long enough, to get what you want ". it will take a while to alter expectation. andrew. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 23rd, 2007, 9:17pm Ja, vee had der same problem mit dem Juden-zey war zee cause of all problems-open up some KZs und show zem who ist der Boss! >:( "Mexicaner Raus! Amerika nur fuer die Amis!" 8) "KKK All The Way!" >:( Does anyone remember the song "National Brotherhood Week" by your great folk singer Tom Lehrer? It would be good to listen to for alles. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 24th, 2007, 12:07am on 06/23/07 at 21:17:10, Klusterkopf wrote:
Do you remember the phrase "Eat the corn out of my shit because it mirrors you"? Its a real catchy tune....LMAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 24th, 2007, 12:36am on 06/24/07 at 00:07:48, Jonny wrote:
I have not tried that-please, tell me, does it taste good? You are a true gourmet, jonny boy! [smiley=moonwiggle.gif]Meal time, jonny! |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 24th, 2007, 12:54am Your days are numbered, John....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by George_J on Jun 24th, 2007, 1:14am on 06/24/07 at 00:54:00, Jonny wrote:
Single digits would be good. ;;D Maybe John can come back next time as a Lapplander or a Walloon or a Fiji Islander or something. Now that he's been American, Dutch, and German, he's acquired a real international odor. George |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Klusterkopf on Jun 24th, 2007, 1:36am on 06/24/07 at 00:54:00, Jonny wrote:
Cannot come up (pun not intended) with a better riposte? I think that people who post racist posts should be deleted. Go to night school [smiley=laugh.gif], learn SOMETHING! |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 24th, 2007, 1:48am Calm down poopie head....LOL Your pain will be over soon ;) |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by john_d on Jun 24th, 2007, 6:56pm Are they here because of our involvement in Somalia recently? Why do we have to bring home tens of thousands of refugees for every conflict we try to help bring to an end? So when is the boat-load of Iraqis and Afganis showing up? Anyway, I am on track to vote for Ron Paul in 2008. My kind of republican who looks to be capable of taking a real stand on illegal immigration. http://www.youtube.com/RonPaul2008dotcom yeah, it's youtube, just deal clusterchris |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 24th, 2007, 7:01pm on 06/24/07 at 18:56:25, john_d wrote:
LMMFAO!!!!!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 24th, 2007, 7:05pm I'd be tempted to vote for Ron Paul too. The guy is great. I actually spent time watching the "Current" cable channel the other day. It turns out that of Republicans, he has the most Google hits by a huge margin. I suppose Mike Bloomberg will be up there soon too. He has a brain. Charlie |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 24th, 2007, 7:10pm on 06/24/07 at 01:36:40, Klusterkopf wrote:
You should really consider suicide and put yourself out of our misery. Thank you in advance. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:33am Hmmmmmmm. It seems to me that xenophobia (both American and Islamic) might be more of a threat... Fundamentalism, whether it is Islamic or American is what truly divides people; my instincts tell me that in a fast changing world it is better to positively engage WITH other cultures/religions etc. The rules and sentiments of yesterday no longer work today!!! Bear in mind too that the American 'religion' of democracy is not necessarily welcomed in countries where Islamic laws have prevailed... ...and while the west and Islam wrestle over the right to rule the world, China is positioning itself to actually rule through economic domination... |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 27th, 2007, 10:50am on 06/27/07 at 10:33:39, Buzz wrote:
Nor is the assumption that American law can be superseded by transplanted Muslims. There seem to be some who think that, because it is part of their religious belief system, it takes precedence over the law. America is a society of laws. If transplants can't or don't want to understand that, we have these buildings here called prisons. I'm sure there are a few judges who wouldn't mind having them get acquainted with the inner workings of a prison for awhile. There are certain people for whom the "can't we all just get along" mantra will not work. Usually it's the ones who want you and me dead. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:28am on 06/27/07 at 10:50:11, Brewcrew wrote:
Yep, the Fundamentalists. I think the media is doing an excellent job of whipping things up, of fanning the flames of fundamentalism on both sides. Its a pity that so many Islamics see ordinary Western folk as haters of their religion/culture - and that so many ordinary Western people see every Muslim as a threat. But hell, I'm just a peaceful hippie kinda guy with a headache!!! :-/ |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Shedz on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:34am Well said that man ;;D I've said this before, theres enough fighting on the face of this planet already............. [smiley=twocents.gif] Paul. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:42am on 06/27/07 at 11:34:52, Shedz wrote:
I won't quibble with this. Peace is always the preferrable solution. But I am and will be prepared to defend myself. I'm not about to lose my family, my life, the stuff I've worked hard for to a religious fanatic. Now if my government would actually do something to protect our borders....Big disappointment, those government types. If he brings a bigger weapon to the fight, so be it. He'll win, I'll lose. But it won't be for not trying. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Shedz on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:55am It's a sad fact that most countries now seem to have a massive influx of foreign nationals, but the world IS changing, and one can only liive in hope that one day it will be for the better.... Paul. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:04pm I think its also worth remembering that not all of Islam is fundamentalist; The UAE is an example of a good balance of Islamic and secular law. Its paying big dividends with people of all religions welcomed to places like Dubai and Bahrain etc... ...and you should see the "Strictly Sha'aria" Saudis in London in the summer... Mayfair's streets become a racetrack for Aston Martins, Lamborghinis and Ferraris - and its nightclubs and casinos do a roaring trade... |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:14pm on 06/27/07 at 12:04:30, Buzz wrote:
And I feel no compulsion to defend myself against these types. It's the other ones, my friend. They are hell-bent on making you and I their bitches. And let me be perfectly clear - I have no intention whatsoever to go on the offensive. But let any one of them fuck with me once - just once.... |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:19pm Agreed, brewcrew. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Shedz on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:21pm Damn computer >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( What Brewers an Buzz said......... (right mr packard bell wheres my f*****g hammer ;;D) Paul ;) |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Brewcrew on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:22pm on 06/27/07 at 12:21:19, Shedz wrote: ?? |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 12:34pm !! |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Shedz on Jun 27th, 2007, 1:14pm ;;D ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 27th, 2007, 6:26pm I'll never get why fundamentalists here and there like to make things miserable. Life is too friggin' short. Christian fundamentalism has become exclusionary; which is 180 degrees from the tenets of Christian teaching with which I am familiar. If you want to get into serious fundamentalism here; it's called the Ku Klux Klan. They like to blow up things and kill all those "other" people too. Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/2 hand left.gif |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 27th, 2007, 11:59pm ...and both Christianity and Islam are founded on similar values, one being "Tolerance". Fundamentalism, be it religious or nationalistic, is the tree that grows from the seed of ignorance; the people who defend their 'faith' or 'nationalistic values' do so in a one dimensional manner, because they do not understand the bigger picture or, more sinisterly, they want to manipulate those who fail to understand. For example, "Jihad" means, I believe, something along the lines of "Struggle/Quest" but has been hijacked to mean "war/fight". |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by rickyshot on Jun 28th, 2007, 10:58am Brew I love you. WEll said. So much happens in this world because the average man fails to do anything. History just repeats itself through apathy. We gotta nip this shit in the bud and let people know they are welcome here if they have a clean record and will obey the laws of the land. They have freedom to worship as they please but cannot impose the way of life they are running from here. When in Rome............. Don't like our laws , well vote to change em, be an activist not a terrorist. That is how is works here. And the beautiful part about here is that we are free to leave unlike some other countries where their citizens are virtual prisoners. Why do we want to give up precious freedom that people have literally died for. Does not make sense |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 28th, 2007, 4:36pm on 06/28/07 at 10:58:58, rickyshot wrote:
You must be tolerant of their intolerance, otherwise your a bigot. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 28th, 2007, 5:47pm on 06/27/07 at 23:59:50, Buzz wrote:
Really? Maybe you better do some research in your own backyard, Buzz! Have a see ;;D http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=8e8_1183047737 |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Kevin_M on Jun 28th, 2007, 7:59pm on 06/27/07 at 23:59:50, Buzz wrote:
"He strove, labored, or toiled," per Lane's standard lexicon, which could be used to describe a Muslim's struggle to live a righteous life. One Reuven Firestone, who did a detailed linguistic study of jihad, summarizes differently: stage Description Representative Passages 1 nonconfrontation 15:94-95 2 defensive fighting 2:190, 22:39-40 3 initiated attack allowed w/restrictions 2:217, 2:191 4 unconditional command to fight all unbelievers 2:216, 9:5, 9:29 In context of bin Laden's Feb. 23, 1998 fatwa, which bears the title "Jihad against all Jews and Crusaders", the U.S. is the crusader. Cloaked as a defensive fight, "jihad is an individual duty if an enemy destroys the Muslim countries", bin Laden made it an offensive fight. We must face the manner it is being used against us. "drink responsibly", and many people do, but by the shear fact there are alcoholics means alcohol is not used in the same way by some who will interpret its use liberally to fit their desires. It is not being hijacked, it simply has an array of uses for different purposes. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Buzz on Jun 29th, 2007, 4:33am on 06/28/07 at 17:47:25, Jonny wrote:
Jonny, there are plenty of nutters out there. This Dispatches Investigation has uncovered the nutters. Unfortunately, the oxygen of publicity is given to the extremists because the do extreme (newsworthy) things; they are still a minority. The more sinister thing is that the extremists are winning their battle to get Muslims all tarred with the same brush, and we, as non-muslims are falling for this simple ruse. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by rickyshot on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:09am Defending our freedom makes me a bigot. ROTFLMFAO got any veterans in your family. They must have all been bigots. |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:19am on 06/29/07 at 11:09:24, rickyshot wrote:
LMFAO. Are you serious? |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by LeLimey on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:22am I think Ricky missed the sarcasm in your post Matt - having met you both and knowing you both well I know you are both speaking from the same side of the coin - use a smiley once in a while young man! :P |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Maffumatt on Jun 29th, 2007, 11:25am Yes Ma'am ;;D |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Charlie on Jun 29th, 2007, 6:37pm Quote:
I'll feel better and return to being a real sweet bastard when I see the these people stop using Islam as something that it isn't. It's a kind of Islamism rather than Islam. I want them to speak up about it too. They seem pretty quiet over here. I guess I'm an intolerant old fart too. Charlie |
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Title: Re: ISLAM... Welcome to Minnesota! Post by Jonny on Jun 29th, 2007, 6:49pm on 06/29/07 at 18:37:40, Charlie wrote:
You dream big, Charlie....I will give you that....LOL ;;D |
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