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(Message started by: chewy on May 1^st, 2007, 8:35pm)

Title: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by chewy on May 1^st, 2007, 8:35pm

I usually wake up 1 hour after falling asleep with a hit. This might explain the timing.

Healthy sleep is characterized by a specific “sleep architecture,” or sequence of stages. The sleep cycle usually begins with a period of about 80 minutes of NREM sleep followed by about 10 minutes of REM sleep. This 90-minute cycle is repeated four to six times each night. If the sequence is interrupted (for example, by external noise or a sleep disorder), the quality of our sleep suffers.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by George_J on May 1^st, 2007, 8:43pm

I almost always get hit at night. Almost always around 90 minutes after falling asleep.

Yeppers.

Best,

George

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Jonny on May 1^st, 2007, 9:11pm

on 05/01/07 at 20:35:59, chewy wrote:

Well, that leaves you out....you cant even make it to 90 mins......LOL ;;D

I always knew you was a light weight :-*

Im going to bed now....lets see how I do....LOL ;)

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Paul98 on May 1^st, 2007, 9:19pm

This a no brainer........

In REM sleep you are at an excited state. i.e. you move, heart rate goes up, body temp goes up but you are semi paralized. This causes the blood vessles to dialate. POW!

-P.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Kevin_M on May 1^st, 2007, 9:19pm

on 05/01/07 at 20:35:59, chewy wrote:

This 90-minute cycle is repeated four to six times each night.

I can relate.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Rosybabe on May 1^st, 2007, 9:34pm

yeap, perfect timing

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by JeffB on May 1^st, 2007, 10:58pm

I'm a 2:30 am hit kinda a guy. Mine are like clock work.

During a cycle tho, I'm in bed by ten.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by JeffB on May 1^st, 2007, 11:00pm

I couldn't imagine that many hits in one night. I have, two, maybe three.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by AussieBrian on May 1^st, 2007, 11:25pm

Different times I've set my alarm to allow me only an hour's sleep at a stretch. Works for a while but madness sets in pretty quickly.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by ClusterChuck on May 2^nd, 2007, 12:22am

on 05/01/07 at 23:00:46, JeffB wrote:

I couldn't imagine that many hits in one night.

Believe me, it happens ... quite regularly, for some ...

Chuck

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by burnt-toast on May 2^nd, 2007, 6:29am

You become a very light sleeper – learning quickly that ignoring early sings of an attack during sleep is not only futile - it can often cause intensities to reach levels impossible for non-suffers to understand. So not only jolted awake, you’re forced to move fast and reach for your relief De’jour, deal with the nightmare, wind down/fall asleep again, only to repeat the process or simply give up on sleep out of total frustration.

Outside of the often unearthly pain levels, constant interruption of sleep is the most disruptive symptom of this disorder. There’s no way to get used to the mental and physical exhaustion that occurs. Sleep deprivation is a common torture used to break down prisoners – and I truly understand why it’s so effective.

But I’ve found that just one good night sleep jammed between the bad has become just enough to re-charge/keep me functioning. I haven’t determined why one night is suddenly better than the three or four before and after it – but I believe this nightmare realizes it needs to keep me alive if it wants to continue enjoying itself.

Tom

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Brewcrew on May 2^nd, 2007, 8:05am

When in high cycle, I get hit 90 minutes after falling asleep. I wake up, take a longer half-life triptan (usually Maxalt) and hit the O2 bottle. The O2 will abort it in 10-15 minutes, and I'm pretty sure it's the Maxalt that allows me to sleep the remaining 4-5 hours.

At least they've become somewhat predictable - operative word being "somewhat."

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Redd on May 2^nd, 2007, 8:07am

The REM vs NREM sleep phases is, in my understanding, why Melatonin is helpful for many people to reduce and for some even eliminate the night time attacks. Melatonin, when taken before bed time, is said to eliminate the REM phase of sleep. The phase in which we wake up to the beast.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Margi on May 2^nd, 2007, 9:56am

Don, I'd hazard a guess as to say you're not getting a full 80 minutes of NREM....you're probably going into REM at the 60 minute mark.

That's why dramamine is a good idea before bed for a few nights. It doesn't let you reach REM.

Just a thought... :-/

p.s. wait...I just reread your post. You said:

"I usually wake up 1 hour after falling asleep with a hit".....

are you saying that you are falling asleep with a hit? Or are you saying that you're waking UP with a hit? Because if you're falling asleep with a hit, you're probably just only a measly meegrainer. ;)

I'm kidding. Douse the torches.

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by Charlie on May 2^nd, 2007, 8:22pm

Oh yeah......

Usually two hits a night....a few times more but the first always woke me up at about 90 minutes.

Scary that I experience anything the same as Chewy. :o

Charlie

Title: Re: REM vs. NREM Sleep
Post by chewy on May 2^nd, 2007, 8:44pm

Quote:

are you saying that you are falling asleep with a hit?

OK OK Ya got me. After all these years now you know I have sinus headaches.

Pass me the head on.