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Title: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 28th, 2007, 2:40pm to keep a cap on how many videos I post on this subject, but, this one is just to powerful to sit on! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5fc_1177775492 As far as I can tell....everything in this video is true, no? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 28th, 2007, 3:36pm Who knows what's true anymore? Do you really think that "IF" the war was generated and perpetuated by the powers that be... for personal gain and less than noble reasons... they would admit that? Do you think they could justify the loss of life of our noble and well intentioned soldiers? I have another question? Why are our soldiers who so willingly and bravely fight for our freedom... and lay down their lives treated like crap by our Govt. when they come home injured or with permanent disability. And... why do we the people stand for it? Am I unpatriotic for wondering when these politicians, left and right are going to do their jobs and see to it that our patriots are cared for? Am I less then patriotic for asking you why you put up with it? Bullets, guns and the machinery of war are big ticket items.... someone is making SCADS of Money with this war. Yet my brother... a former Marine who was injured during the Vietnam war is still waiting for the govt. to give him his deserved disability. Ya wanna BITCH??? Bitch about how these soldiers are disrespected by OUR Govt. who ask them to lay down their lives and then ignore them when they come home broken. Do you think the politicians would put up with the same treatment? Gee I wonder what their healthcare and retirement package looks like. We can hardly fix our own bureaucratic mess with the Disabled American Veterans here in this country... and we want to fix some other country's mess? Our money should be better spent taking care of our own first. If we need soldiers... outsource like we outsource our work force. just my pissed off two cents. with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 28th, 2007, 5:40pm on 04/28/07 at 15:36:05, artonio7 wrote:
Is that aimed twords me? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 28th, 2007, 6:01pm on 04/28/07 at 17:40:16, Jonny wrote:
It's aimed at all of us Including me first. I'm pissed off that our Disabled American Vets are not being respected. Putting up with the way they're being treated is just as bad as treating them badly. How can we sleep at night knowing we have not spent part of our day making sure that our disabled American Vets are given what they deserve... with regard to health care and a proper compensation? Why hasn't this administration done anything to fix the problem and why haven't we demanded it? Why do we keep letting it slide? Why isn't it a major topic of debate in the upcoming political campaign. We keep throwing bodies at someone else's problem before we take care of our bravest strongest and broken. Here's a little eye-opener. http://www.usnews.com/usnews/health/articles/070408/16va.htm Want to make a difference... go here and do what you can. http://www.dav.org/ with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by andrewjb on Apr 28th, 2007, 7:03pm hope this helps. andrew. <http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread177559/pg> |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 28th, 2007, 7:24pm on 04/28/07 at 15:36:05, artonio7 wrote:
That would be an interesting discussion by itself. hmmmm |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 28th, 2007, 7:41pm on 04/28/07 at 15:36:05, artonio7 wrote:
We already do.....Blackwater! $30,000 a month for each fighter! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=6598ac4e85 |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BB on Apr 28th, 2007, 8:07pm Jonny, I thought you were trying your best to limit the number of video clips you want us to watch ... 8) Annette |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 28th, 2007, 8:58pm Here's another interesting article. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17316437/site/newsweek/ with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by crftymom on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:25pm $30,000 a month!! Our guys barely(some don't even) make that a year. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Maffumatt on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:26pm I don't think the war means as much to him as hurting the GOP does. Even his peers are starting to turn on him, he has become an embarrassment. You get what you vote for. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by JeffB on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:28pm Let's finish the job we started. Whatever it takes! Our mission is to set up a government that can govern. Maybe it was a mistake to go there and maybe we can only speculate why those who made the decision to go did so. But we are there, let's not pull out or give any kind of date, let these men and women do what we asked them to do. They will do it! Our credibility in the world is shot, can you imagine or does it even matter to folks what that means? And now that Iran has so much influence there can we afford to leave?? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by JeffB on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:33pm on 04/28/07 at 21:26:47, Maffumatt wrote:
He may be the commander in chief, but do you really think numbnuts makes all the calls?? Let the Pentagon run the war and the fartknockers in office should do what they do best. Vote on an artificial rain forest in Iowa, or bridge for 12 people in my home state Alaska. Reid is from a state of roughly 2 million, who the fuck is this guy to give any kind of educated opinion. KEEP 'EM COMING JONNY! |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:47pm on 04/28/07 at 21:28:18, JeffB wrote:
We can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them. Albert Einstein with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by JeffB on Apr 28th, 2007, 9:51pm He's dead. Let's tell out politicians to concentrate on other things and stay out of wars. ;) |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BB on Apr 28th, 2007, 10:35pm I thought the war in Iraq was so we could control the production and distribution and cost of the oil that this region has. Until we master the power of nuclear to supply our industrial machineries, we rely heavily on oil. Currently, the ones who control oil have power. No? Annette |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by john_d on Apr 28th, 2007, 10:42pm on 04/28/07 at 22:35:04, BB wrote:
Not really, the ones with the largest military might have power. If anything, it's really about having a military base and presence in the region for security of our interests and the interest of our allies. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 28th, 2007, 11:36pm on 04/28/07 at 22:42:51, john_d wrote:
Right, so thats a yes, its about oil. The only 'interest' we have there is oil. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Charlie on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:47am Quote:
Very British Empire. It worked too! Too bad our kids don't get paid at even an observable fraction of hired corporate help....there are tens of thousands of them and they all have the best of care. Charlie |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Kopfschmerz on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:39am Actually, the US military gets paid very well-go on a base and see all of the new cars. Too bad that they are being wasted in Iraq and Afganistan. Bring 'em home for Christ's sake-they have become involved in a civil war and that is a war that the U.S. can't win. The Iraqui's will have to sort that out for themselves. They got rid of Saddam, so as far as I'm concerned, they did their job. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:52am on 04/29/07 at 02:39:42, Kopfschmerz wrote:
Thats a great fist post on a CH website ::) Cant win or wont be allowed to win? http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b179350720 One bomb and we win ;;D |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by john_d on Apr 29th, 2007, 9:02am on 04/28/07 at 23:36:34, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
No, that's one but there's also Isreal and general stability in the region. Also, this neo-con executive branch really is interested in instituting democracy, seemingly by force. They are hoping it will take hold and we will eventually have a reasonable ally in the region that leases us a alot of land for a military base and gives us cheap oil. Of course, hope is not a plan as they are finding out. Who know's, maybe in there secret military meeting Dick Cheney is wringing his hands and laughing an evil laugh about the American public being such a bunch of tools, but I doubt it. They think they are right. I think they are foolish and that us and our children will pay for their foolishness. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Maffumatt on Apr 29th, 2007, 10:25am They might as well send engraved invitations: "Dear terrorist, "You are cordially invited to Baghdad on March 1, 2008, for a farewell party for U.S. armed forces. By that date the last U.S. service member will be withdrawn from Iraq, and you are invited to celebrate as you see fit. There will be plenty of unsecured weapons to hoard, unguarded borders to cross and defenseless infidels to slaughter." "B.Y.O.B.* "Sincerely, "The Democratic Congress" "* Bring Your Own Bomb" That would be the effect of the Iraq supplemental spending bill Congress approved last week. The bill would require the retreat of all U.S. forces from Iraq by next March at the latest. Thank goodness President Bush has pledged to veto it and Congress hasn't enough votes to override the veto. The bill would not have passed had House leaders not larded it up with about $21 billion worth in pork spending. We seem to recall 2nd District Rep. Paul Hodes campaigning against pork-barrel spending. But the pork in this bill sure did not bother him. He and Rep. Carol Shea-Porter both voted to turn Iraq over to the enemy. Sens. Judd Gregg and John Sununu voted against telling the terrorists exactly when we'd be leaving. Everyone knows that the war in Iraq is not going very well. Gen. David Petraeus said last week that the overall level of violence in Baghdad has remained about the same despite the added U.S. troops. But Petraeus, unanimously confirmed by the Senate, believes he can turn this war around, given time and resources. The Democrats, incredibly, are determined to deny him both. Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid called the war "lost" and other Democratic leaders tried to distance themselves from his comment. Yet they nonetheless voted for a bill to end the war prior to victory. In other words, to give up and go home. Obviously, most Democrats in Congress believe the war is lost and are unwilling to continue fighting it. Which is exactly the result the terrorists have worked so hard to achieve. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:21pm on 04/29/07 at 10:25:31, Maffumatt wrote:
Bro, those are some great buzz words, but how would this differ from what is happening now? Have 'the terrorists' been holding back for the last 4 years? Have they NOT been hoarding unsecured weapons? Have they NOT been crossing unsecured borders? Have they NOT been slaughtering defenseless infidels for the last 4 years? Whether we leave or whether we stay, according to your argument and the picture you paint, nothing will change either way except for the cost. You forgot a very important talking point, though, bro: If we leave Iraq, the terrorists will follow us home. [smiley=crackup.gif] John McCain is right. Iraq is now a safe place, and you can walk around the streets with no armour. He even went to a marketplace and bought some rugs. It only took 100 armed military personnel to escort him, 10 armored Humvees, 7 Blackhawk choppers and 2 Apache Gunships. Mission Accomplished...again. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Maffumatt on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:33pm They win, we lose. Congratulations. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:41pm on 04/29/07 at 13:33:04, Maffumatt wrote:
LMMFAO.....Touche", Bro! ;;D |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:48pm http://poljunk.gloriousnoise.com/images/mission%20accomplished.jpg Nope, we won. We won 4 years ago next week. 4 years after our victory, it's time to 'cut and run'. lol |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 1:55pm on 04/29/07 at 13:48:58, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Your French right? Edit to add your flag: http://forums.pcpitstop.com/style_emoticons/default/surrender.gif |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:07pm on 04/29/07 at 13:55:39, Jonny wrote:
Nope, I'm smart. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:25pm on 04/29/07 at 14:07:07, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
That quote proves my point!....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:35pm Tony Blair once had 40k troops in Iraq. Now its down to 5,400. U gonna ask if the British are French too? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 2:50pm on 04/29/07 at 14:35:41, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
The Brits had 40K on the ground? Prove it, because I dont believe it! Link please! |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by LeLimey on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:02pm We don't HAVE 40,000 troops to send! |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:04pm on 04/29/07 at 15:02:51, LeLimey wrote:
LMMFAO.....nuff said!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] Edit to add: What a fucking putz you are B! I love when you run away....LMAO [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:26pm Look at the chart back in March April 2003: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/politics/6380933.stm Nuther one: http://webpages.charter.net/wisconsinlegion-7thdistrict/2003_Iraqi_War.htm nuther one: http://www.wacklepedia.com/2/20/2003_invasion_of_iraq_1.html nuther one: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_force_in_Iraq#More_than_5.2C000_soldiers nuther one: http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/reuters/070221/world/international_iraq1_dc nuther one: http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/06/25/sprj.irq.intl.main/index.html here's 1 from May, 2003 that talks about the initial draw down: http://www.accessmylibrary.com/comsite5/bin/pdinventory.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=2930&purchase_type=ITM&item_id=0286-23136398 Nuther one: http://www.thedailystar.net/200304/02/n3040202.htm I'm tellin you, the British are French. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:33pm on 04/29/07 at 15:02:51, LeLimey wrote:
According to Wikipedia, the UK as a whole has 187,970 active duty and 233,860 reserve forces totaling 421,830 total troops. If you mean you dont have 40k to send because they are busy elsewhere, I agree. The US is in the same situation. We dont have the troops to send to Iraq because they should be elsewhere doing much more important business. Jonny, eat my ass. U just got spanked in front of your kingdomites. [smiley=crackup.gif] edited to add: Putz [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:44pm on 04/29/07 at 15:33:12, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Did you know that Wikipedia asked me if they could use a CH picture drawn by JD? Now thats a great website.....they asked me.....LMMFAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:44pm on 04/29/07 at 15:41:38, Jonny wrote: I love when you run away. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:46pm on 04/29/07 at 15:44:54, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Huh? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:48pm on 04/29/07 at 15:46:32, Jonny wrote:
I LOVE WHEN YOU RUN AWAY. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:49pm Im right here, Honey :-* Now show me a link to 40K Brit troops.....you cant can you.....LOL ;;D What a putz! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:54pm So, in Jonny's narrow-minded little world, we have narrowed it down to 2 choices. Due to Tony Blair reducing the troop levels from 40k+ to less than 6000, are the Brits: A. Smart B. French |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 3:55pm on 04/29/07 at 15:49:03, Jonny wrote:
Dude, better get your eyes checked. Look at the multitude of links in post #34. :o |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:05pm go ahead and read any 1 of these. they all reference the 45,000 troops send in by Tony Blair back in March and April of 2003. on 04/29/07 at 15:26:47, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Now that your disbelief has been belieftized, what do you have to say? U calling the Brits French? |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:05pm on 04/29/07 at 15:26:47, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
That aint going to sit well here, is it? ;) |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:06pm PS, thats cute how you keep posting stuff and then deleting it. ::) |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Ree on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:06pm Try living in my world being part of the cause since day one. I have PTSD now... my kids kids don't know him, and this is not the life I ordered...he also just got extended another 95 days~~Everyone put our kids over there, not just our government and they not backing down til we are told to come home....... period. Those kids over there are fighting their asses off and no one here can respect them. Even Bush slapped them all in the face by flying flags at half staff for the victims in VA... well what about the soldiers killed every day...every single day I get news from DOD announcing another or 10 casualties. Flags should be at half staff everyday that a hero dies in Iraq or Afghanistan. We can bitch all we want. George Bush ole veto king, will be sure they won't be coming home soon. Too bad he didnt have sons. HIS DAUGHTERS SHOULD BE LICKING THE WOUNDS OF THE SOLDIERS IN THE VA HOSPITALS OR BECOME HUMANITARIANS OF SOME SORT AND HELP OUT! My opinion Ree who has made great sacrifices since 2003 Proud mom of Scott who says he is just doing his job, saving lives every day God Bless HIM! |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Jonny on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:16pm on 04/29/07 at 16:06:36, Ree wrote:
I can! http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f89_1177761103 |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by midwestbeth on Apr 29th, 2007, 4:26pm We have to finish the job. If the United States cuts and runs the terrorists will take over. What does Senator Reid think will happen if we leave? Does he think the terrorists will go away? Does he believe that peace will occur in Iraq? Beth |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 29th, 2007, 5:13pm on 04/29/07 at 16:26:09, midwestbeth wrote:
Fine... get the job done... but give the soldiers their due. Not giving the Disabled American Veteran the proper disability qualification and short changing them on their compensation is IMHO one of the most unpatriotic things a person or Government can do. Standing by constantly and allowing it to continue is not only regrettable but one of the most blatant examples of hypocrisy we can participate in while waving the flag. In case you and many others are not aware of what the DAVs are confronted with when they return home, broken, after nobly serving so proudly and unselfishly take a look at this. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17316437/site/newsweek/ As I stated before... we need to get a grip on the bureaucratic mess regarding our DAVs here in this country before we try to fix someone else's problems. Chances are after we remain in Iraq for another 10 years lose countless lives spend countless dollars, they will eventually go back to business as usual... killing each other like a bunch of animals. Modified to add: Semper Fi is the latin term meaning "Always Faithful" I wonder when that ends? If we know our Marines are being shortchanged when they return and we do nothing to change it... should we modify the term to: "Faithful until we're through with you"? with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Gator on Apr 29th, 2007, 7:06pm Tony, Semper Fi is the Marines motto. They are always faithful to the US and to their brothers is arms. It should be a two way street. I wish it was, but it really isn't. It isn't for them or any of our other military who serve, war time or not. They paint this wonderful picture of what you're entitled to as a Veteran and then they change the rules on you. I served for 12 years, but because our total household income is over 32K, I can't even be seen in a Veterans Hospital. Guess who signed THAT little clause into action - none other than Dubya himself. I don't like Dubya nearly as much as I used to, but I'd still rather have him in there than some of these other cowardly, appeasing and capitulating sons of snakes in the grass pusses. We sent them over there to do a job, we need to let them run the show, kick some ass and come home victorious. The ones who are wounded should have the best care available. The ones who don't make it home should be honored as the heroes they are. Quote:
Oh and Kopsurfucked, you have no clue what you are talking about. Our military make no where near what their civilian counterparts make. Some of our young military families have to depend on government assistance and food stamps to make it. Yes, the young single troops who live in the barracks and have no bills often buy nice cars. So do some of the more senior ranking, but they are not all driving around in nice new cars. When I had a car at all, I drove an old El Camino, a pos mini van or various other rattle traps. None of my friends drove new vehicles, either. We had our hands full just to keep our families fed. So piss off, jerk. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by artonio7 on Apr 29th, 2007, 8:00pm on 04/29/07 at 19:06:41, Gator wrote:
...I know Mike.... My questions to all of us, flag waving, patriotic, proud to be Americans: How can we sleep at night knowing that our DAVs are not given the respect and honor they deserve? How can we continue to allow such mismanagement and neglect? How can we in good conscience allow our, sons, daughters, husbands and wives serving so bravely and protecting our freedoms to be sold down the river the moment they have done their jobs and return home war torn? It is our responsibility as Americans to see that they are taken care of. It is our duty as compatriots to watch their backs when they return home. It is our Obligation to settle for nothing less. To rest a day with the knowledge that these atrocities persist is another day of causing it to happen. Semper Fidelis (Forever Faithful) is not only the Marine's motto it is also the mantra that any American (worth their salt) must embrace and use as their guidance for guaranteeing our DAVs get what they deserve. To do less is nothing more than turning our backs on them. Ask for justice and do not rest until you've accomplished the task... Let's "Stay The Course" americans, demand that our DAVs are treated well. with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Kevin_M on Apr 29th, 2007, 8:51pm on 04/29/07 at 13:48:58, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
on 04/29/07 at 14:35:41, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I don't think the two are the same idea in execution. from your first link on British troop reduction. Quote:
But if you are considering the British smart based on reduction in personnel from their peak during major combat operations, then I guess you are calling the U.S. that too, statistically, but not as smart, by their reduction from peak also while covering a MUCH larger area of Iraq. United States: 250,000 invasion--145,000 current (4/07) United Kingdom: 45,000 invasion--7,100 current (2/07) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multinational_force_in_Iraq A concise pro and con. (from same link, regarding British reductions) Conservative leader David Cameron told the Commons that the announcement would be "welcomed in this House, in the country and especially to the families of those serving in Iraq over the coming months." But he said that the security situation in Basra remained "dire" and urged Mr Blair finally to accept the need for an inquiry into the Iraq war to "learn the lessons" of "many bad mistakes". |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Apr 29th, 2007, 9:01pm on 04/29/07 at 20:51:27, Kevin_M wrote:
Well, I call it smart, Jonny calls it French. You say tomatoe, I say tomatoe. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Kevin_M on Apr 29th, 2007, 9:15pm But then you also considered this smart... on 04/29/07 at 13:48:58, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
on 04/29/07 at 14:07:07, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
giving this example... on 04/29/07 at 14:35:41, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
... which is not the same. |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BB on Apr 29th, 2007, 10:24pm Should never cut and run unless US wants a repeat of the Vietnam War upon themselves. How many more refugees can US take in and care for ? Annette |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Gator on Apr 29th, 2007, 11:05pm Oh, we have no problem taking care of refugees, Annette. It's our military we can't take care of. >:( |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by BB on Apr 30th, 2007, 12:05am Gator , thats so wrong. One should always take care of ones home and family first. Charity begins at home. Says an Aussie whose Prime Minister is happy to send close to a billion dollars to the Phillipine for aids while our own citizens on death beds continue to wait on for life saving operations ... Sigh ! What the hell are those in our Governments doing ? Yet when it came time to vote , it was like " they are all the same, who should I choose ? " ... Maybe I should get into politics .... 8) Annette |
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Title: Re: I try my best..... Post by Charlie on May 1st, 2007, 2:08am I see veterans of Iraq every few days around here. Youngsters don't like to notice them......probably normal.... but old farts like me and from the boomer generation now know better. It's heartening but disheartening to know that the occupier of the White House brings them to our attention only for photo opportunities. It's unreal that we stepped in something like this again. It's stunningly inept. It's going to take us a long time to get used to being vulnerable. The Atlantic and Pacific are no longer a match for terrorists. Strange, but in effect, we are learning what Europeans have always lived with. It's a scary world and we are now just as centered on the target of irrational zealots as the rest of the planet. It's pretty much a new thing for us and it will take some work to get use to it. Damn. Just something I've been thinking about for while. Charlie |
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