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(Message started by: Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 10:37am)

Title: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 10:37am
ok....so I have to call in late to work this morning...no biggie right...  anyway I get myself back together go out and try to start the damn car...turn turn turn spit sputter spit blahhhhhhhh damn thing won't start.  It's not that it's cold...it just doesn't seem to be getting enough gas to start.  Full tank, just filled it up yesterday.

Call back into work to let them know I'll be later than I first bargained for.  Called my garage, called the towing place to put Fred on alert...haha.

Stu said to hang tight and he'll come over to take a look at the POS before I spend money to tow the damn thing 4 blocks.  

Just yesterday I was going over my finances to see how much of a car loan I could afford.  Looks like I'm going to need to buy one sooner than expected....

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by Kevin_M on Feb 28th, 2007, 10:46am

on 02/28/07 at 10:37:27, Redd wrote:
It's not that it's cold...it just doesn't seem to be getting enough gas to start.


I'm not mechanically inclined but if it's fuel injected, pressing the gas while starting will in time foul the plugs I think.  Difficult starts sometimes bring a gas pedal tapping, which seems to happen more in winter and in time, it suddenly won't start.  Take a look at them, replacing can bring it to life quickly.  Just a thought.


Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 10:59am
Stu came over and it appears to be dodgey fule pump.  He can hear pump hum but thinks it's probably on it's last few days of life.  

Looks like I'm going to need to find some quic financing and purchase a car...

Any Male clusterbud want to make a fast trip to WI to help me find a good used car today so they don't try to rip off this poor female?


Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by Lobster on Feb 28th, 2007, 11:27am
That blows hard Redd.  I hope it is not the pump.  

My fuel pump went on my beater a few years ago.
They had to drop the gas tank to get at it.
I ended up paying about $600 at a non-dealer garage.


Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 11:33am
I'd rather put that 600 into the downpayment on a different vehicle

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by tanner on Feb 28th, 2007, 11:50am

on 02/28/07 at 10:59:38, Redd wrote:
Any Male clusterbud want to make a fast trip to WI to help me find a good used car today so they don't try to rip off this poor female?


 LMAO ;;D

I wish I was close enough to come hang out with you while you shop, but I am fairly sure that you are a long way from a "poor female" ;)

Bummer that you have to buy out of (need right now), instead of when you are ready. I need to do something about Linda's ride, "knock on wood".

Good Luck shopping and give em hell Pegg..... :-*....Tim

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...
Post by Gator on Feb 28th, 2007, 12:41pm
Pegg, sometimes, it's better to just buy a new car than to keep pouring money into an old one.  Especially if you have to pay someone else to work on it.  Fuggin garages rape you on labor.  

I just replaced the fuel pump on the wife's Explorer last month.  The garage was going to charge us $450.  I bought the part for $129 and replaced it myself.  Dropping the gas tank on a vehicle sucks, but it's better than spending an extra $300+ clams.


Title: Re: One of those days...NEED ADVICE FAST!
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:17pm
http://application.lendudasmotors.com/details.php

I;m in the middle of negotiations for this ^

I've talked them down 1300 on the price already, but I'm not happy with the monthly payments.  I've told them that I'm willing to put down an additional $250 if they can lower the price of the vehicle to get me into my monthly payment range.  

What do you people think?

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by BB on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:29pm

Keep bargaining and dont back up. Your offer to increase the down payment to reduce the monthly repayment sounds perfectly reasonable to me.

If they want your business they will try to accommodate you.

Car yards have pretty big margin so keep pushing.

Good luck with it all.

Annette

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Brewcrew on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:29pm
Your link is taking me to a blank page, Pegg.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:31pm
Me too. Can't see squat.

Buy a Hummer!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:33pm
2001 Pontiac Aztek  Price:  $8,995    
 
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Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Lobster on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:39pm
KBB retail value in excellent condition, without selecting each of the options...
Condition          Value

Excellent      $7,145

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:41pm
Any others that might have caught your eye???

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:43pm
nope.....

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:47pm
Negotiations continue...I'm off to see if I have a car..

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:50pm
Ask them if the car was made in Fremont, Ca. They make Toyota Tacomas, Pontiac Vibes and I believe the Aztec.

My $23K Tacoma was a piece of crap. Never buy a car made at NUMI  (New United Motors Inc.)in Fremont!!!!!!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by taraann on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:51pm
Get a new "generic" fuel pump ................. hubby has done that many times for me and fam, usually a hundred bucks or less!  Too bad u arent near NH :-/

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Melissa on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:53pm
I'm surprised you're going with Len Dudas.  They are one of the higher priced used car dealers in the area.  I do have to say though, that their vehicles are top notch, thoroughly inspected and well kept.  My Grandpa & Grandma always got their cars through them and were always quite satisfied.

I never like the asthetics of the Aztek myself, but Pontiacs are good cars.  I have a Bonneville myself. ;;D

Good luck Pegg!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:55pm
If I were you ladies, I would think about all wheel drive vehicles.
How much snow do you get in a year in WI?

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by fubar on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:01pm
I don't think that's a good deal.

Never, ever negotiate based on the monthly payment.  ALWAYS negotiate on the price, THEN you get into the finance department and negotiate your loan.  They will make you focus on the payment instead of the price, and in the process you'll end up paying too much for the car (way too much, especially if you pay a high price and get looong financing to bring the payment down)  Your final cost will be much much higher.

You can find a better deal than that.  Really.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Melissa on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:03pm

on 02/28/07 at 16:55:35, JeffB wrote:
If I were you ladies, I would think about all wheel drive vehicles.
How much snow do you get in a year in WI?

LOL!

I have a 1 ton Chevy dually sitting in the shed in case I need it...

Any more questions?? ;)



btw Pegg, FU's right about it being too much.  Why don't you try Car Country in Plover?  That's where my brother-in-law (a mechanic) gets good deals on his vehicles.  I think they have a Yukon for sale, or you could try looking for a light truck, like a Tacoma with 4wd.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:10pm
Yukons are cool!

My 2002 Tacoma was a POS with four wheels. I don't say that about many Toyotas.
They forgot to add the "i" in TRD!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by BobG on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:22pm
I don't know who that Len Dudas dude is. Is it only used cars? Or is it also a new car dealership?
New car dealers keep the best trade-ins for re-sale and will offer some kind of warrantee or guarantee.
Used only dealers buy their cars at auctions. They are the cars that cost a real dealership too much to repair and/or prepare for sale.
I would never buy anything from a used only lot.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:31pm
Bob, do you buy your cars from Chop or the Blue Genie at Towbin??? ;;D

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by BobG on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:41pm

on 02/28/07 at 17:31:38, JeffB wrote:
Bob, do you buy your cars from Chop or the Blue Genie at Towbin??? ;;D

Hell no! I don't want to be anywhere near those freaks!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:47pm
I was sitting around the house a few months ago when I saw those idiots on cable. They have their own show on A&E I believe.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Melissa on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:50pm
BobG, it's also a new car dealership.

Oh, and not all of us are as loaded as you. ;;D

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Brewcrew on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:51pm

on 02/28/07 at 17:10:19, JeffB wrote:
Yukons are cool!

My 2002 Tacoma was a POS with four wheels. I don't say that about many Toyotas.
They forgot to add the "i" in TRD!

Wow. Too bad, Jeff. Our 2000 Tacoma 4WD is bitchin'. 83,000 miles and nothing but routine maintenance and a new set of tires. I really like that truck.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:02pm
It had about 18 miles on it when I brought it home. 4-5 days later I oil running down a NEW driveway.
Then:
2 oil coolers replaced.
Driver side power window went out.
A bracket or bar in the dash came loose. Thought the airbag could go off at any time.
Paint on the dash board started to chip and flake. (you should have seen the fix on that one. lol)
The molding on the plastic fender flares was whipping in the wind and flew off on Hwy 101.
Rear end pumpkin leaked.

This was just the first year. I wonder where yours was built?
My buddy who had one that was built in Japan had NO problems.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Woobie on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:08pm
we need a cheap, reliable car too - we've been down to one car for two completely different schedules for a long time now... and it's impossible!

been looking here... found a lot of good stuff....
i like this website

www.cars.com

good hunting

woobs

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Racer1_NC on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:13pm
Does anyone have an active CarFax account they could run that VIN on to get a vehicle history? Mine expired last week......figures.

Private party sale in excellent condition is $5890, wholesale is $4675. If I really wanted that particular car, I'd give no more than $6000.......IF it had a clean history and checked out ok.

Bill

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Racer1_NC on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:16pm

on 02/28/07 at 17:41:51, BobG wrote:
Hell no! I don't want to be anywhere near those freaks!


Freaks they are, but people must like that kinda crap because they really move the tin.

Personally I'd walk before buying a car from them...

Bill

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:28pm
The advertising raises my eyebrow. They have endless commercials which can't be cheap, so they have to make up that money I'm sure.

Sorry, bro, no carfax.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Melissa on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:47pm
cars.com is a good place.  I also browse here http://autos.yahoo.com/  and here  http://www.autobytel.com/

but, best thing we do is go for a drive. 8)

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Redd on Feb 28th, 2007, 7:20pm
Well  as of yet.  I've been dickering with them all afternoon. Yes if someone can run something on that vin I'd be greatly appreciative.  

What I didn't like was them telling me they secured my financing, then when I get there I have to jump through more and more hoops and providing more and more paperwork.  

If it wasn't that I needed a car like....today...which I didn't end up getting, I would have walked prior to all this.  

I understand what FU is saying, but my plan with this was only to have made a years worth of payments (or less) then refi it, or trade in but keeping the innitial payments affordable till I have the time to actually negotiate a great deal when I WANT to and not NEED to.  When the car I DO have is questionable every day if I'm going to get to work or not, I'm not coming from a place of bargaining strength right now.


Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Brewcrew on Feb 28th, 2007, 7:31pm

on 02/28/07 at 18:08:41, Woobie wrote:
we've been down to one car for two completely different schedules for a long time now... and it's impossible!

Try one car with two SIMILAR schedules, if you think that's bad!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by georgej on Feb 28th, 2007, 8:33pm
Pegg, I didn't see what your original POS was.  

If it's a Ford, the fuel pump always goes out on them.  I've never owned or seen a Ford that the fuel pump didn't go out on.  The water pump always goes out on them too.  In fact, when I owned a Ford, I never drove anywhere (when I was thinking straight) without a spare fuel pump and a spare water pump in the toolbox.  The spares were like talismans--if I had a spare in the toolbox, the &^&%$# never blew up on me.  If I didn't, the &^%*% blew every stinking time.

The worst time I had a fuel pump go was in an old Bronco when I was on the Goose Creek Summit jeep trail coming down off of Big Creek on the western side of the Frank Church Wilderness.  Dumb thing to do--anybody with any sense goes over Profile Summit and not Goose Creek, but....hey...Kowabunga.  

For those who know this "road" (and they are admittedly few) it's a fairly discernable scratchmark over the scree and talus that has fallen off a dozen mountainsides, and it's way the h&ll and gone away from anywhere at all.  The memory of the three days before I got that heap of deadish metal out of there is best forgotten.  Camping was fine, and I had plenty to eat, but I fumed around in pretty much an extreme state of anti-Ford p*ssoff the whole time.

(Managed to get into some nice trout, though, while I was waiting for someone else to come along, so it wasn't all bad in hindsight, I guess.)

Sorry this turned into a rant.  I think "fuel pump" is a trigger for me.  When I see "fuel pump", my brain says "Ford", and it all comes back....

:P

Best,

George

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Charlie on Feb 28th, 2007, 10:26pm
Guess I'm way out of date but there was a time when a fuel pump was a minor repair. Sold thousands of them over the years and sent the cores back. Most pumps were rebuilts.

Good luck kid.

Charlie

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Gator on Mar 1st, 2007, 12:18am
Charlie, nowadays a lot of cars have electric fuel pumps that just basically get thrown away when the go bad.  And just to keep the average joe from replacing them by themselves, they are invariably mounted inside the fuel tank.  Major PITA to replace even if you do know what you're doing.

I do know what you're talking about, though.  Hell, I even fixed one once that had a ruptured diaphragm with a piece of old inner tube.  Worked long enough for me to get a new one.  Can't do that crap now.  With all the interrelated electronics in them, you have to have a special diagnostic reader to even know what's wrong half the time.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Tim_w on Mar 1st, 2007, 9:24am
If you go for used car  carfax.com before you buy!

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by JeffB on Mar 1st, 2007, 11:05am
Fords also have a fuel cut off switch thats notorious for shutting down the fuel flow whenever you drive over a decent bump like train tracks. etc.

Title: Re: One of those 0 star days...need advice fast
Post by Redd on Mar 1st, 2007, 11:41am
Update...

I am now the proud owner of the said vehicle afformentioned, with MUCH better financing.  Interest rate is dropped by 5 perc points, one year off the term of the loan, and monthly payment is $40 LESS per month.

Overall savings with this purchase from yesterday to today...$2800 over the course of this loan.

Hurahhhhh!

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by JeffB on Mar 1st, 2007, 12:14pm
The Aztecs would be proud of you!!!
Congrats, and don't forget to change the oil every 3k miles. ;;D

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by Redd on Mar 1st, 2007, 2:03pm
Took it on some of the slickest roads around here and she handled like a dream.  Hard breaking was a breeze, then the traction (whatever that is, there is a light that says Engaged) kicked in and I wasn't slipping a bit.  

School canceled today so I picke the kids up over lunch, and they love it too.  

I think I'm going to be very happy with this car.  Very happy indeed.

Edit: I stand corrected...it's considered an SUV or light truck?

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by purpleydog on Mar 1st, 2007, 3:05pm
Congratulations Pegg!! Sounds like you got what you wanted, for what you wanted. :) Personally, I like negotiating for cars.

A light truck is the same as a pick-up truck, as opposed to a semi, or dump truck. You got an SUV, in the same class as a light truck.

I can't wait to ride in it!  ;;D

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by Redd on Mar 1st, 2007, 3:52pm
You can ride in it anytime sis.

I've gone through 3 beaters in the last 12 years.  It feels great to have a reliable vehicle now.  

Problem remains...I can't find the damn ashtray..... [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by purpleydog on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:20pm
Damn new cars, some don't have ashtrays.

I'd get one of those that has a sandbag bottom to it, won't slide around.

My grandparents used to keep one on the dashboard, cause the ashtray was so low under the dashboard. This was years and years ago.


Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by fubar on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:23pm
I forget what city (probably Walnet Creek) in California... anyway, they even banned smoking IN YOUR CAR.  You can get a ticket if you are smoking in your car with the window rolled down (or some such BS).


Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by purpleydog on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:25pm
Are you kidding? Smog state USA. That's like the pot calling the kettle black.

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by JeffB on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:30pm
Why do you think we're called the "left coast"?

Bunch a friggin wierdos out here! ;;D

I think San Francisco held a special day for Gay Porn, called it cult day or something. WTF??

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by tanner on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:43pm

on 03/01/07 at 16:30:19, JeffB wrote:
Why do you think we're called the "left coast"?

Bunch a friggin wierdos out here! ;;D

I think San Francisco held a special day for Gay Porn, called it cult day or something. WTF??


Careful Jeff you are not out of there yet!!

They can still grab you and slap the foil hat on and your screwed ;;D......Tim

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by JeffB on Mar 1st, 2007, 4:53pm
:o lol.
Wish I could think of that ball they have every year, pretty much sums up the city by the bay.

Got it!!!!!! It's the Exotic, Erotic ball. LOL.

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by Charlie on Mar 1st, 2007, 5:07pm
Nice going kid!

Hope you have a million miles of fun. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/drive1.gif

Charlie

Title: Re: One of those 4 star days UPDATE
Post by Racer1_NC on Mar 1st, 2007, 5:46pm

on 03/01/07 at 14:03:22, Redd wrote:
Took it on some of the slickest roads around here and she handled like a dream.  Hard breaking was a breeze, then the traction (whatever that is, there is a light that says Engaged) kicked in and I wasn't slipping a bit.  


Traction control......


Quote:
Edit: I stand corrected...it's considered an SUV or light truck

Actually the popular term now is "cross over"....car based SUV.

Wishing you many trouble free miles.......

Bill



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