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(Message started by: BB on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:13pm)
Title: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:13pm

Love is all about meeting someones needs. Its essentially about survival.

Without love there will be no life. All living things will die in the absence of love. The ultimate act of love is to give up ones own life for someones need. That is the love of God, the love of Jesus Christ.

True love is the ability to meet higher needs as well as basic needs. Its above preservation of physical life itself. It is about giving life a quality. A life worth living is not about quantity but about quality. Basic love gives life, true love gives quality of life.

Basic needs for survival are all physical. Its air, food, water and shelter. However, this is only enough for preservation of basic life, a life without cognitive development, a life without emotions, a life of an under developed animal.

Basic needs for human survival are both mental and physical. Its firstly air, water, food and shelter and also love. Humans need love to survive. Its has been proven that a human child will not survive without love, even when physical needs are met. Love give quality of life, foremost in giving the meaning of life, that such life means something to someone. Love gives values to the human life. Life needs to be valued to have some sort of quality.

The first love we experience in life is mothers love. Without mothers love, we will die. In an ideal situation, mother starts to preserve our lives firstly by carrying us in her womb, providing for our first set of basic needs: air, water, food and shelter. Within this love we grow, until our body reaches enough physical maturity to leave mothers body. From then on, on top of the basic physical need, we develop higher needs, starting with mental need. Again ideally, mother will be there to provide for this need until we reach enough mental maturity to leave her side.

To be able to truly survive independently, one needs to reach both physical maturity as well as mental maturity. This is the minimum requisite for an independent life. The next step is the development of spiritual need. Achievement of the next step is the requisite for a truly happy and fulfilled life.

The first and second stage is all about receiving love and the ability to secure that love. The last stage is about giving love and the ability to maintain that love. It requires the steps of initially being able to receive love, then the ability to love oneself which will result in the last step of being able to give love.

Unfortunately, life is difficulty. Things are never ideal. For many what should happen never happened. The successtion of love that should occur step by step gets interrupted by various events, some of out of luck but most are out of ignorance.

If one is lucky, one starts out with a good set of genes and a great pregnancy where nothing went wrong and one is born with the best physical health to start with. Then if one is even luckier, one will have a loving mother who will be there to provide both physical as well as mental care, with time this will see one grows into physical and mental maturity.

The lucky person will then step into his own life with the ability to be self sufficient, with the ability to survive on his own. He will need to learn to love himself enough to ensure his own best survival condition. From this self love comes the ability to love others and the progression to attainment of spiritual growth.

We first learn to love the person(s) who meet our needs. This love is reflex, its inborn and doesnt need to be learnt. Unless we is born with major mental retardation, we know how to love this way.

Then we learn to love ourselves. This enable us to meet our own needs. This love has to be learnt. Not everyone knows or even able to love him or herself. Many consciously or subconsciously inflict damages after damages to themselves because they are unable to love themselves. This gives no quality to life.

Lastly we learn to love others. This is the hardest love to learn. This is also the only way to attain true maturity and peace of mind as well as true happiness in life.

So, love is the ability to first meet your own needs and ensure ones own survival, then love becomes the ability to meet someone else needs and ensuring someone else survival.

Love goes the full circle of life. Love is then complete and fulfilled.


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:16pm

Above is my definition of love.

What is your definition of love ? Come on, please share  :-*

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by jimmers on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:18pm
;;D
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by thebbz on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:27pm
emotional purgatory :)
jb
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:30pm
I knew that answer when I met my first wife. It got a bit cloudy when I met my 2nd. After 10 years with my girlfriend, I have no fucking clue.
But I do think God has made his/my wishes pretty clear. In December I thought hard about going east, even put in my 2-3 week notice which wasn't accepted. Now it's totally clear to me. Drop whatever I'm doing, and get my ass to N.C. to be with my father.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:31pm

on 02/27/07 at 15:27:12, thebbz wrote:
emotional purgatory :)
jb


Huh!
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by fubar on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:43pm
Love is never what you expect, so don't expect love... when you see it, you will know it.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Feb 27th, 2007, 3:49pm
Dictionary.com says its:

1. a profoundly tender, passionate affection for another person.
2. a feeling of warm personal attachment or deep affection, as for a parent, child, or friend.

If you want to see it, just watch two people who have been together most of their lives and still like each other.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Melissa on Feb 27th, 2007, 4:22pm
It's innate in all of us, whether we want to believe it or not.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Sean_C on Feb 27th, 2007, 5:46pm
http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/02/14/love.science/index.html
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Barry_T_Coles on Feb 27th, 2007, 5:59pm

on 02/27/07 at 15:49:29, Brewcrew wrote:
If you want to see it, just watch two people who have been together most of their lives and still like each other.

Just over 35 years together & still as much in love as the day we met, an we got 2 kids to prove it. ;;D
Love; don't expect it, you'll recieve it if you deserve it.
Cheers
Barry
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BobG on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:02pm
I have no clue. But,
log on to eHarmony.com and that syrupy sweet fruit cake will tell you with a free ($50 value) personality profile that will bring you a truly compatible match.

[smiley=crackup.gif] Sometimes I crack me up.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by jimmers on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:17pm
My definition.

She will be home in about 15 minutes.

Jimmers
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Feb 27th, 2007, 6:23pm

on 02/27/07 at 18:02:38, BobG wrote:
I have no clue. But,
log on to eHarmony.com and that syrupy sweet fruit cake will tell you with a free ($50 value) personality profile that will bring you a truly compatible match.

[smiley=crackup.gif] Sometimes I crack me up.


I did that. I put in the best description of myself and what my likes and dislikes are and what I want out of a partner and they were very quick to give me an answer.
Now I have someone to walk with a few times a day and who even likes to fetch the ball. Still working on the hand shakes and rolling over tricks.  ;;D
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Jonny on Feb 27th, 2007, 9:48pm
Love to me is sitting in a nice comfy chair, drinking a nice cold beer and watching a midget ram three of his sausage fingers into Chewys ass-hole......ahhh, what pleasure ;;D

Now ask me what I like to do on the weekends ;;D
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Sean_C on Feb 27th, 2007, 9:49pm

on 02/27/07 at 21:48:34, Jonny wrote:
Love to me is sitting in a nice comfy chair, drinking a nice cold beer and watching a midget ram three of his sausage fingers into Chewys ass-hole......


Schwing  ;;D ;;D ;;D ;;D
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Tim_w on Feb 27th, 2007, 10:28pm
To me LOVE is a family like my CH family :-*
And being Happy!!! ;;D
Happy Pappy
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by chewy on Feb 27th, 2007, 10:51pm
Not sure exactly what love is but I know where you can find it.

http://lasvegas.craigslist.org/cgi-bin/personals.cgi?category=ers
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Feb 28th, 2007, 12:53am

LOL ! You guys are TERWIBLE !

I started out all serious and mushy and philosophical and now you have made me laugh my head off !  ;;D

Gotta to love ya!

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by sandie99 on Feb 28th, 2007, 4:16am
Annette,

quite a post, wow. :)

I love reading and wondering these kind of things and  I have thought about love many, many times. Too bad this moment my words seem to fail me and I cannot write you a perfect reply. But, basically, I believe that it's hard to define love, it comes in so many forms.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Feb 28th, 2007, 5:36pm

on 02/27/07 at 21:48:34, Jonny wrote:
Love to me is sitting in a nice comfy chair, drinking a nice cold beer and watching a midget ram three of his sausage fingers into Chewys ass-hole......ahhh, what pleasure ;;D

Now ask me what I like to do on the weekends ;;D


Sorry about the bump, but I just about bit the farm while reading this and gulping a spicy v-8.  :-X
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JenniferD on Feb 28th, 2007, 6:16pm

on 02/27/07 at 17:59:43, Barry_T_Coles wrote:
Love; don't expect it, you'll recieve it if you deserve it.


and even when you don't.  

Love is looking at that greying man whose ring I wear, and still seeing the 15 year old boy in study hall.

Love is not killing your teenaged daughter, because you know she is just like you.

Love is my son. No I will not explain that.

Love found here in Clusterville  :Undefinable and priceless. nuf said.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by alienspacebabe on Mar 1st, 2007, 12:12am

on 02/27/07 at 18:02:38, BobG wrote:
I have no clue. But,
log on to eHarmony.com and that syrupy sweet fruit cake will tell you with a free ($50 value) personality profile that will bring you a truly compatible match.

[smiley=crackup.gif] Sometimes I crack me up.



ah, eharmony: a place for normal, pretty, intelligent, witty women with good personalities to meet completely self-centered men, or dog-ugly men who want only gorgeous blonde amazons with huge breasts, or to not meet men because the ones there are shallow bastards....
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by imnotbub on Mar 1st, 2007, 3:32pm
Love is still wanting to be with your partner after the lust is gone. (6 months maybe?)

Steve [smiley=guyflash.gif] [smiley=beer.gif] [smiley=girlflash.gif]
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BobG on Mar 1st, 2007, 6:57pm
Hey Liz, Yer right. LMAO. But I gotta ask.......How come you know so well the men at eharmony.com? Is someone hittin' on you for your Beemer?
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 1st, 2007, 7:11pm
Liz has a Beemer???

Hi Liz, Jeff here. Just wanted you to know how great you look in the soft moon light. That perfume smells great. Is that a new dress?  I like soft music, fine wine, long walks on the beach, and I cried at the end of Ol' Yeller. I bet you'd like to spend a nice quiet night at home with a glass of wine and a good movie, while I take your Beemer for a wash and wax in South Beach, Fla. Whatchya say ya sassy minx?? ;)
Title: TRUE LOVE
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:57am
 I'm only 16 and you guys aren't describing love your describing the closet thing to it. Real love, crazy passionate over the moon, stary-eyed his and hers bath towels, grow old together TRUE LOVE FOR THE AGES kind of love is something you feel from the start, and you know no matter what this is your other half, your future, your life, your meaning, and now your complete, whole. It is what we'll search our whole life for, what pepole have lived and died for, and the thing which keeps the world spinning. That is TRUE LOVE.
                               
                                      6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by alienspacebabe on Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:16pm

on 03/01/07 at 19:11:06, JeffB wrote:
Liz has a Beemer???

Hi Liz, Jeff here. Just wanted you to know how great you look in the soft moon light. That perfume smells great. Is that a new dress?  I like soft music, fine wine, long walks on the beach, and I cried at the end of Ol' Yeller. I bet you'd like to spend a nice quiet night at home with a glass of wine and a good movie, while I take your Beemer for a wash and wax in South Beach, Fla. Whatchya say ya sassy minx?? ;)




How stupid do you think I am??  Like I'm gonna let a man drive my Beemer when he forgets to mention a nice back massage for me...
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by Lobster on Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:24pm

on 03/02/07 at 01:57:48, 6al3e wrote:
 I'm only 16 and you guys aren't describing love yak yak yak....

What you are describing is called 'engagement'.  Then she eats the wedding cake and that shit comes to a screeching halt.  
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Paul98 on Mar 2nd, 2007, 12:56pm
You are all wrong!

True love is never having to say your are sorry [smiley=hurl.gif]

I believe Al Gore invented the saying and then he and Tipper made a movie.   [smiley=hurl.gif] [smiley=hurl.gif] [smiley=hurl.gif]

-P.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:15pm

on 03/02/07 at 12:56:30, Paul98 wrote:
I believe Al Gore invented the saying and then he and Tipper made a movie.   [smiley=hurl.gif] [smiley=hurl.gif] [smiley=hurl.gif]

-P.

He must still be making movies. It's got to be all the cameras and lights driving his electric bill through the roof.
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:16pm

on 03/02/07 at 01:57:48, 6al3e wrote:
 I'm only 16 and you guys aren't describing love your describing the closet thing to it. Real love, crazy passionate over the moon, stary-eyed his and hers bath towels, grow old together TRUE LOVE FOR THE AGES kind of love is something you feel from the start, and you know no matter what this is your other half, your future, your life, your meaning, and now your complete, whole. It is what we'll search our whole life for, what pepole have lived and died for, and the thing which keeps the world spinning. That is TRUE LOVE.
                               
                                      6al3e


Well that settles that! Hear that folks, she's 16 and you someone at that age knows everything there is to know.
Can you please tell us the cause of global warming and what about this free trade stuff? ::)

Just to add:
Stay away from boys till you're 21, they're icky!
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:19pm

on 03/02/07 at 12:16:04, alienspacebabe wrote:
How stupid do you think I am??  Like I'm gonna let a man drive my Beemer when he forgets to mention a nice back massage for me...


Damn, I knew I forgot something!

Mental note: read Cosmo instead of Bigguns!
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:22pm

on 03/02/07 at 13:16:42, JeffB wrote:
Just to add: Stay away from boys till you're 21, they're icky!

You ignoramus. They're not icky.

They have cooties.
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by Lobster on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:40pm

on 03/02/07 at 13:22:58, Brewcrew wrote:
They have cooties.


Heh heh...
When I was 16 my 1st real beloved started showing me what True Love was.  Then I found out that she was showing a bunch of other guys what True Love was as well.  Seems she wanted True Love around the clock.  
Needless to say, I fell outta True Love pretty quickly.  

/You slvt, Sandy Kleman
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:40pm
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http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b7dc04b3127cce818dd2d6fca500000015103QasWrlwx0
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Lobster on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:46pm

on 03/02/07 at 13:40:50, E-Double wrote:
cute picture/cute picture/yada yada
 Man Eric... you sure do know how to mush up a thread.  ;;D

http://www.nerdevout.com/pictures/gif/nicepost.gif
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:54pm
Oh you meant true love.sorry!!!!!

http://www.jaycaddle.com/mahow/images/SandyMahow.jpg
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 1:57pm
and I loved the time when A bunch of us played "hockey" with Danielle (get it a hat trick) [smiley=bloos.gif].I miss college
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by sandie99 on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:20pm
Aww... that pic of Hannah was just precious! :)
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:39pm

on 03/02/07 at 13:16:42, JeffB wrote:
Well that settles that! Hear that folks, she's 16 and you someone at that age knows everything there is to know.
Can you please tell us the cause of global warming and what about this free trade stuff? ::)

Just to add:
Stay away from boys till you're 21, they're icky!


I don't Know everything, no body does, but I do have my own opinions.

Just to add: Global Warming is caused by the emission of heat trapping gases produced by vehicles, power plants, industrial processes and deforestation. As these gases build up, they act like a big blanket, over-heating the planet and threatening our health, our economy and our environment. Also called greenhouse gases. And Free trade is the unhindered flow of goods and services between countries.

                              ;;D 6al3e
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:41pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:39:32, 6al3e wrote:
I don't Know everything, no body does, but I do have my own opinions.

Just to add: Global Warming is caused by the emission of heat trapping gases produced by vehicles, power plants, industrial processes and deforestation. As these gases build up, they act like a big blanket, over-heating the planet and threatening our health, our economy and our environment. Also called greenhouse gases. And Free trade is the unhindered flow of goods and services between countries.

                              ;;D 6al3e


Why aren't you in school?
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:45pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:39:32, 6al3e wrote:
I don't Know everything, no body does, but I do have my own opinions.

Just to add: Global Warming is caused by the emission of heat trapping gases produced by vehicles, power plants, industrial processes and deforestation. As these gases build up, they act like a big blanket, over-heating the planet and threatening our health, our economy and our environment. Also called greenhouse gases. And Free trade is the unhindered flow of goods and services between countries.

                              ;;D 6al3e


And all this time I thought it was cow farts. :-/
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:46pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:41:53, E-Double wrote:
Why aren't you in school?


I'm home schooled.
                     
                              6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by seasonalboomer on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:47pm
this thread is starting to sound like a "to catch a predator" lead in.......  
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:47pm
Are you also the teacher??
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:47pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:46:10, 6al3e wrote:

I'm home schooled.
                     
                              6al3e


Why aren't you studying then?
This teacher wants to know
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:49pm
Holy crud, Chris Hanson just wlked in my office. :o
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:53pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:47:42, JeffB wrote:
Are you also the teacher??


Yes, sort of I study and take a test. And I study longer on days to get friday off to read and make posts.

                              6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:56pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:53:21, 6al3e wrote:
Yes, sort of I study and take a test. And I study longer on days to get friday off to read and make posts.

                              6al3e

And this makes, what? One Friday in a row?
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 2:57pm

on 03/02/07 at 01:57:48, 6al3e wrote:
 I'm only 16 and you guys aren't describing love your describing the closet thing to it. Real love, crazy passionate over the moon, stary-eyed his and hers bath towels, grow old together TRUE LOVE FOR THE AGES kind of love is something you feel from the start, and you know no matter what this is your other half, your future, your life, your meaning, and now your complete, whole. It is what we'll search our whole life for, what pepole have lived and died for, and the thing which keeps the world spinning. That is TRUE LOVE.
                               
                                      6al3e


Don't forget that you get half after the divorce! ;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:01pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:56:32, Brewcrew wrote:
And this makes, what? One Friday in a row?


More around two years of fridays, but this is my first friday posting here.
       
                                  6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:03pm

on 03/02/07 at 15:01:36, 6al3e wrote:
More around two years of fridays, but this is my first friday posting here.
       
                                  6al3e

Welcome. Are you a sufferer or a supporter?
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:03pm

on 03/02/07 at 14:57:39, JeffB wrote:
Don't forget that you get half after the divorce! ;)


        I'm getting married once and there won't be a divorce.

                                6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:05pm

on 03/02/07 at 15:03:23, Brewcrew wrote:
Welcome. Are you a sufferer or a supporter?


Sufferer, it's what got me into home school too many absent days, it's hard to make up'

                                6al3e
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by E-Double on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:07pm

on 03/02/07 at 15:05:23, 6al3e wrote:
Sufferer, it's what got me into home school too many absent days, it's hard to make up'

                                6al3e


How about going over to the "Getting to know ya" board and introducing yourself.
That would be the appropriate thing to do.
LEt us know your history and how maybe some of us vets can possibly help you and your family.

Best,

E
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by 6al3e on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:11pm

on 03/02/07 at 15:07:20, E-Double wrote:
How about going over to the "Getting to know ya" board and introducing yourself.
That would be the appropriate thing to do.
LEt us know your history and how maybe some of us vets can possibly help you and your family.

Best,

E


 OK, Thanks,
                   6al3e
     
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:22pm

on 03/02/07 at 15:07:20, E-Double wrote:
LEt us know your history and how maybe some of us vets can possibly help you and your family.

Best,

E



THATS LOVE !  :-*


Annette

PS: be careful with EDub, he is getting lethal with his piccies, he can provoke all sorts of sentiments ...
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by thebbz on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:49pm
When young you can live on love. At least for the first nine months.....then you can eat the baby.. [smiley=laugh.gif]
You guys quit picking on a 16 year old. ::)
Love you guys. :-*
jb
emotional pergatory: cant shoot em, cant shoot em
love em but cant shoot em
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:52pm
I love it. When I was 16, I was going to move to Alaska and be a fisherman. Of course I was going to take my girlfriend with me and we were going to have a great life. lol
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 3:55pm


The innocent love of the sweet 16  :-* ....

Until reality comes along and makes it all ugly  :'(


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:03pm
Nah, Annette. I doesn't have to be that way. My wife and I have known each other since we were 5 years old. Started "puppy love" dating in 8th grade. We'll be married 25 years this fall. That a relationship changes over time is a given - it doesn't have to change for the worse. I wouldn't say I'm more in love now than when we got married, I'd say my love for her has intensified or been distilled. Probably because now I realize that we have less time left together (i.e., when you're in your early 20's, hardly anybody has a firm grasp of their own mortality).
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:06pm

Bill, do you know how blessed you are ?

Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Sandy_C on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:20pm
Annette, his wife is also blessed to have a man like Bill.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by JeffB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:25pm
And he's sexy to boot! ;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:31pm

on 03/02/07 at 16:25:47, JeffB wrote:
And he's sexy to boot! ;)

I'll bet you say that to all the boys, Jeff.

Annette and Sandy, you are too kind. Blessed, yes. But that's not the whole story. It takes a little work, too. ;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:38pm

Not just a little work, Bill, it takes A LOT, it takes things that a lot of people these days arent prepared to give out.

My hat off to you both!

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 2nd, 2007, 4:58pm
Love is what happens when you aren't looking for it, don't want it and haven't got the time or inclination for it.
Love sneaks up on you because if you saw it coming you'd take evasive manouveres.
Love is when you find another part of yourself that you didn't even know was missing.
Love is having someone with you always even when you're apart.
Title: Re: TRUE LOVE
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Mar 2nd, 2007, 5:33pm
True love is that warm, gushy feeling that keeps people from jumping out of windows.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 5:46pm

Indeed ! It actually makes some people climb IN through those same windows ...  ;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Mosaicwench on Mar 2nd, 2007, 6:11pm

on 03/02/07 at 16:31:48, Brewcrew wrote:
Annette and Sandy, you are too kind. Blessed, yes. But that's not the whole story. It takes a little work, too. ;)


Since you guys are talking about me like I'm not here, I'll chime in.

Brew and I have talked about this before.  We both put each other first; always, no exceptions (what a lousy sentence, but true).  I know he will always act in my best interest, as I act in his.  I don't think that he will, I don't hope that he will, I KNOW that he will.

It's not always easy, it's not always equal, and it's not always fun, but it has kept us happy and together and in love for a LOOOOOOOOOONG time.

I do indeed know how blessed I am.  And he is indeed one sexy clusterhead!  Hang a bass guitar around his neck and I feel like I'm 16 again . . . .
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 6:19pm

on 03/02/07 at 18:11:48, Mosaicwench wrote:
We both put each other first; always, no exceptions (what a lousy sentence, but true).  I know he will always act in my best interest, as I act in his.  I don't think that he will, I don't hope that he will, I KNOW that he will.

It's not always easy, it's not always equal, and it's not always fun



Much much easier to say then do. You two are an amazing couple!  :-*

How many of us here can honestly say that we have done this when it comes to loved ones ?

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Mosaicwench on Mar 2nd, 2007, 6:31pm

on 03/02/07 at 18:19:36, BB wrote:
How many of us here can honestly say that we have done this when it comes to loved ones ?


Like I said BB, It's not always easy.  Like anything else in life it ebbs and flows with external influences.  

When Brew's in cycle it's up to me to run interference for him - on thousands of levels.  When my dad lived with us through the last months of his life, brew took over for a lot of things I simply didn't have the time or energy for.  It all works out in the end.  

It's not about keeping score and it's not about putting yourself first.  My inner-spoiled-brat pipes up occasionally yelling "what about me??"  If I listen to that voice eventually no one is happy here.  It's not about me, it's about him.  And vice versa from his point of view - which is what makes it work.

And being unafraid to give a figurative kick-in-the-shorts keeps it real.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 2nd, 2007, 6:51pm

on 03/02/07 at 18:31:58, Mosaicwench wrote:
And being unafraid to give a figurative kick-in-the-shorts keeps it real.


There is an art to this figurative kicking too, or else the shorts will split ....  ;)


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Tim_w on Mar 3rd, 2007, 10:31am
6al3e, Wrote
I'am getting married once and there won't be a divorce
all I can say is NEVER SAY NEVER
Happy Pappy
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by dynasty on Mar 3rd, 2007, 11:52am
love is the ability to forgive, be humble, accept, and change...

love is the giving of oneself completely


just my 2 cents
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Melissa on Mar 3rd, 2007, 11:59am
Trust, empathy, honesty, frustration, awe, humor, anger, never holding a grudge, fairness, alone time, doing it for them even though you don't want to, saying sorry when you know you're right, etc., etc.

:)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Mar 3rd, 2007, 12:20pm

on 03/03/07 at 11:59:48, Melissa wrote:
saying sorry when you know you're right
:)


NEVERRRRRRRRR!!!
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Melissa on Mar 3rd, 2007, 12:23pm

on 03/03/07 at 12:20:31, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
NEVERRRRRRRRR!!!

Ah, you're one of THOSE guys then, huh? :P


;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 3rd, 2007, 1:58pm

Saying sorry when you are right doesnt mean you become wrong, it means you are sorry that the other person  (is so pigheaded) they dont want to accept the truth  8)  ;;D

Love means being able to say sorry when needed ?


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by alienspacebabe on Mar 3rd, 2007, 9:30pm

on 03/03/07 at 13:58:40, BB wrote:
Saying sorry when you are right doesnt mean you become wrong, it means you are sorry that the other person  (is so pigheaded) they dont want to accept the truth



You hit it on the head, Annette!   [smiley=bash.gif]
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 4th, 2007, 8:43am

I was playing around with Google and "quotes of the day" when I came across this quote from our dear ancient Plato which cracked me up :

" Love is a serious mental illness"

;;D



Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 4th, 2007, 9:04am
That plato knew his stuff eh?!  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 5th, 2007, 10:02am

Sorta put a whole meaning to marriage being an institution  :P

[smiley=laugh.gif]


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by DonnaHar on Mar 5th, 2007, 10:30am
Love is a form of blindness until the eyes open with the passing of time.  
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 5th, 2007, 3:41pm

on 03/05/07 at 10:30:01, DonnaHar wrote:
Love is a form of blindness until the eyes open with the passing of time.  


usually too late ?  ::)

:P


Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Callico_Kid on Mar 5th, 2007, 8:55pm
Love is a choice.  No one can force it or require it.  One must choose to love which then changes from a noun to a verb and requires action.

Love is what Linda has given me for 29 1/2 yrs of marriage (yess we celebrate the half yr too).  She has put up with me when I have been unlovely due to illness or injury.  She has stuck with me through financial troubles due to two businesses going under and inability to work fully from CH. She never complains that I don't provide for her like some other men do for their wives.  She puts up with my grouchiness and short temper when I'm struggling with CH, making sure I am ok and then going away and leaving me alone, which is what i want.  She has given me five kids and has been both mom and dad to them when I am out of town with work.  She puts herself last even when needing more from me while struggling with her own health.

We both made a vow to love and to cherish each other through sickness and health, for richer for poorer, etc. and I definately got the better end of that.  (She is still waiting for the richer part! ;;D)  I promised her that I would set her free after 100yrs, but I'm reconsidering that promise. ;;D

Love is also exibited on this site all the time and it sometimes amazes me the bonding we can have with each other just because of this site and the affliction we share.

Jerry
BTW one does not have to like another to love.  That is the truly amazing part of what love is and why itis a choice not an emotion.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 6th, 2007, 3:04am

on 03/05/07 at 20:55:45, Callico_Kid wrote:
Love is a choice.  No one can force it or require it.  One must choose to love which then changes from a noun to a verb and requires action.

Love is what Linda has given me for 29 1/2 yrs of marriage (yess we celebrate the half yr too).  She has put up with me when I have been unlovely due to illness or injury.  She has stuck with me through financial troubles due to two businesses going under and inability to work fully from CH. She never complains that I don't provide for her like some other men do for their wives.  She puts up with my grouchiness and short temper when I'm struggling with CH, making sure I am ok and then going away and leaving me alone, which is what i want.  She has given me five kids and has been both mom and dad to them when I am out of town with work.  She puts herself last even when needing more from me while struggling with her own health.

We both made a vow to love and to cherish each other through sickness and health, for richer for poorer, etc. and I definately got the better end of that.  (She is still waiting for the richer part! ;;D)  I promised her that I would set her free after 100yrs, but I'm reconsidering that promise. ;;D

Love is also exibited on this site all the time and it sometimes amazes me the bonding we can have with each other just because of this site and the affliction we share.

Jerry
BTW one does not have to like another to love.  That is the truly amazing part of what love is and why itis a choice not an emotion.



Wow ! That is beautiful !

Thanks Jerry  :-*

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Mini on Mar 6th, 2007, 4:30am
Love is what my wonderful DW has shown me, day in, day out for the last year.

neither of us knew I was a clusterhead, it just happened and took up half our relationship.  I was as bad a sufferer as they come, never wrong, never needed reminding of anything, never needed specialists. the list goes on.

somehow, my Annette stood up everyday and showed me care, concern, understanding... love, whilst all she received was (and still is) a grumpy, uncaring, useless partner.

Thank you Annette

Daniel
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by ClusterChuck on Mar 6th, 2007, 5:04am

on 03/06/07 at 04:30:16, Mini wrote:
Love is what my wonderful DW has shown me, day in, day out for the last year.

neither of us knew I was a clusterhead, it just happened and took up half our relationship.  I was as bad a sufferer as they come, never wrong, never needed reminding of anything, never needed specialists. the list goes on.

somehow, my Annette stood up everyday and showed me care, concern, understanding... love, whilst all she received was (and still is) a grumpy, uncaring, useless partner.

Thank you Annette

Daniel


Freekin AWESOME post, Daniel!!!

And glad to see you posting!!!

But, I hate to tell you this.. You now have to share your darling wife ... She is now partly OURS!!

Chuck
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by BB on Mar 6th, 2007, 7:55am

on 03/06/07 at 04:30:16, Mini wrote:
somehow, my Annette stood up everyday and showed me care, concern, understanding... love, whilst all she received was (and still is) a grumpy, uncaring, useless partner.

Thank you Annette

Daniel



My darling sweetheart!

You are NOT a grumpy, uncaring, useless partner! You are a wonderful husband and I love you with all of my heart  :-* Sure at times you were grumpy, but that was because you were struggling to cope with your first bad cycle of CH, its NOT you!

Having been through a really tough divorce where I had to call the police and take out an AVO against my violent ex, it was you Daniel who showed me what love can be.

You came into my life and made me believe that true love does exist and that I could learn to trust another man again. You literally walked away from everything, your job, your home, your family to move 1000 kms to be with me.

If I had managed to show love , it was you who taught me how  :)

Thank you Daniel and I love you.  :-*

Annette
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Brewcrew on Mar 6th, 2007, 8:02am

on 03/06/07 at 07:55:17, BB wrote:
My darling sweetheart!

You are NOT a grumpy, uncaring, useless partner! You are a wonderful husband and I love you with all of my heart  :-* Sure at times you were grumpy, but that was because you were struggling to cope with your first bad cycle of CH, its NOT you!

Having been through a really tough divorce where I had to call the police and take out an AVO against my violent ex, it was you Daniel who showed me what love can be.

You came into my life and made me believe that true love does exist and that I could learn to trust another man again. You literally walked away from everything, your job, your home, your family to move 1000 kms to be with me.

If I had managed to show love , it was you who taught me how  :)

Thank you Daniel and I love you.  :-*

Annette

Awwww....now would you look at that? That is one of the most heart-felt, love-ridden things I've ever read.

Annette, you started this thread. You just answered your own question. Many, many happy years filled with each other is what I wish for you and Daniel.
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by DonnaHar on Mar 6th, 2007, 8:55am
While I did make a rather snide remark, you must understand my dry sense of humor and forgive me.

In all sincerity, I am truly happy for those of you who have found this wonderful relationship. Your descriptions are beautiful, warm and sincere, and tell a true story of what loving and being loved in return should be.







Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by georgej on Mar 6th, 2007, 7:22pm

on 03/06/07 at 04:30:16, Mini wrote:
Love is what my wonderful DW has shown me, day in, day out for the last year.


Welcome, Daniel.  :)

Best wishes,

George
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Ree on Mar 6th, 2007, 8:57pm
What love is to me... trust, truth, honesty... in a nut shell thats it...
ree
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?T
Post by Mini on Mar 7th, 2007, 8:12am
Thanks for all the welcomes, will try and be less of a lurker

Daniel
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Linda_Howell on Mar 7th, 2007, 11:51am


Quote:
Thanks for all the welcomes, will try and be less of a lurker

Dsaiel


 I once spelt my own name wrong (Luinda) and since then I have never heard the end of it.  We'll be kinder to you.   ;)

      LINDA !!!
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Mini on Mar 7th, 2007, 4:17pm
where, where?  oh, alright, yes i am illiterate too ;)
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Linda_Howell on Mar 7th, 2007, 9:39pm


  Daniel, I never thought you were illiterate.  Sometimes our fingers are dyslexic is all.

         
Title: Re: WHAT IS LOVE ?
Post by Jimi on Mar 7th, 2007, 11:51pm
Geez Daniel.....you guys get a room or something. Glad to see you stepped out and said hi. Welcome to the funny farm.


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