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Title: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:49am Fuck It All !!!!!! I'm trying ton write while mostb of my dear friends are not even online right now. So many good friends, I apologize to you for what I must now do. I gave up. Byb the time you readn this I will mostv likley be gone. My doc, yeah right! Doc my ass! Has told me he will do nothing for my chronic pain and that it's all in my head. Shit, many of you here now on the boards donb't even know who I am, that's okay, I wish you wqell. My last question to this so called doc was "do you believe in Cluster Headaches?" After a long pause he said "yeah, I guess so." But, that didn't matter at all. It has nothing to do with what I'll do within the next so many hours. That bastard along with a bitch from hell that lied to you and me for so long ... shit ... one may be going with me if hold on long enough. Don't worry, the bitch is out of my reach and time frame. Although many mat think I'm losing my mind, especially those who don't even know who I am, I'm not. Enough is enough! To those of you who do know me, I love you all and hope you understand. Don'tb lose your faith I can only pray now that I be forgiven for what I must do. God have mercy on my soul, please forgive me as well as my friends, please forgive me as well. I wish I could thank so many of you for your support for the last 11 years, but to name one above another just doesn't seem right. I will say to jonny ... tell me again to do it and as for the first time I'll call you "King" and will follow your comand! Chewy ... fuck off! You once cried to me over the phone and I worked to reach and understand you, it was a good talk and you told me you would be fine, but instead you've become nothing but a mole on our ass trying to be like jonny ... sorry meathead, you'll never come close! Jonny is a experienced friend ... you chewy should join me you waste of human flesh!!!!!!!!! dAQMN ... This is hard to write, I mention two names and want to name so many that were there for me. Carl, Cathy,Linda, Leesa%Dave. BobG, Ken, Nancy, Margi, Elaine, Liz, Carrie, Sven, Sailpappy, Ricarrdo, Kip, BobW, Fubar, Jerry, Barbara, BobP, Sarah, Jackie, Jean, Mel, Carol, Donna, Jimi, Frank, DJ, Chuck, ... aw crap! I knew better than to try to thank everyone for the support over the years so many I've left out to many names, but I hope you know who you are and have made me last this long. But thank you all, hope I helped someone alonng the way. At least I got a chance to thank most everyone here before I go, as too mant never got the chance. Can't think of a reason to go on in this life, already have a plan on how to leave and when. Can't promise I'll respond again, depends on if I decide to take some doc with me, not kill, but lesson in chronic pain ... and hey! Maybe CH will get some headlines at least nation wide! I'm done. My lasr prayers are with you all, Dave |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by froggy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:55am If you're still there, meet me in the chat lounge. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by froggy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 2:06am DAVID! |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by andrewjb on Feb 23rd, 2007, 5:45am ignorance is bliss, your docs a fuckwit. hang in there, times will improve. andrew. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Woobie on Feb 23rd, 2007, 7:25am on 02/23/07 at 01:49:15, Dave_Emond wrote:
OK So - it's been almost 6 hours since you posted that, and I see you're ONLINE - so I"m HOPING that you've rethought this post and don't do it. and - if you're going to do it --- i hope you dont take anyone else with you. suicide is a personal choice, and I respect your right to choose what's best for you... but I lose respect for anyone's personal choice when they decide to do harm to others on the way out. I hope you don't commit suicide Dave... and I hope that you find the help you so obviously need.... I wish you strength to make it threw whatever's going on. You're obviously in deep, serious pain - mentally and physically........ and I know you've been there for a long time. woobie |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 7:59am Guess I shouldn't have tried to write when I did in the pain I was in. I can see how that post may have appeared. But now, while in a short "window" of just a heavy shadow ... I can see things much clearer. Oh ... don't think I've changed my mind, in fact, I'm all the more compelled to follow through and if all goes as planned for over a week of prep, in about 4 hours from now I'll be waiting for "Doc". He'll live, but will never forget ... my outcome is inevetible. Have to admit I'm working on 2 pictures of courage to do what I must do, at least Long Island Ice Teas will send me out with a smile on my face. Thanks Mike and Helen for talking to me during the night and also Froggy and Ike ... 2 CH'ers I've never met doing what they could to listen, help and try to understand. You are all good people. My post should have read 9 years on these boards and in those 9 years I thought I had been adopted into a real family that really cared. All I wanted was a chance to thank you for carrying me through rough times. We've lost many dear to us over the years and am saddened by how quickly they faded away. Guess I'll fade away as well, almost feel now as if I already have. I used to try to inspire, for those I may have, please forgive me for what I must do and don't lose faith because of my actions. I'll try to stay online until around 9:00 AM. Please no replies to stop me. I'm in that "inner cycle" getting CH attacks 8 to 10 times everyday plus my body wasting away thanks to "Doc" and more Ice Teas going down ... no time to debate, just goodbye's and God Bless you All, (Wonder what He'll do with me?) Not often one of us gets to say "goodbye my family and friends" on here and thanks. Peace to All ... Dave |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 7:59am The drama begins. Again Semi annual |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by JenniferD on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:10am Dave, you've been in my, and many others' thoughts for months. I don't know what to say to you now other than to let you know you haven't, and will not, leave my prayers. Praying for peace to you. With much love and comfort, Jen |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:16am Did I hear something? ... naw must have been the trash collector. Anyway, thanks Woobie, Jen and Cyn, appreciate the thoughts. I'll share with you a bit of what I copied from a message I sent to Mike: Not sure how I can answer your questions, I don't even believe in suicide ... if I did, I'd have been long gone by now. Guess I'm at the point of do I want to lie in wait in some hospital where they can keep me alive longer than I'm meant to live just so they can profit off it? Do I allow this "doctor" to continue to screw up other patients? Is there one last chance I have of bringing doctors, the media and the world of even a bit of interest to CH? Or am I just tired and angry and had enough? Your questions plaque me as well. If you can call it living, what else do I need to learn before my God steps in and gives me direction ... I've been in Hell since I was 11 years old and see no end ... but one! Dave |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:20am Quote:
You got that right. Lets play on everybodys emotions again. Like no one has enough trials and tribulations of their own. Need attention? Join a club. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by nani on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:21am Dave, you need help. Not from the docs you've been seeing, but from a qualified therapist. Your suffering is not all in your head, but there's other stuff going on in there that can be helped. You have choices about how you feel emotionally...do yourself a favor and find some peace...even if you need professional help to do it. Wishing you peace and pain free time, nani |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by andrewjb on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:30am one things for sure dave, you"ll not know the out come if you go. no one, but no one, can see the future. pull your self out of this shit, the doc will learn in time. andrew. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:31am Quote:
Thank you Nani! People that continually feed into your historiacal drama are doing nothing but enabling you to continue the drama over and over and over. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by tanner on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:38am Dave, you and I don't really know each other although we should. All of the people you name as friends are also friends of mine, many much more then they are aware of. I know that my situation and yours do not compare. I have only had this shit leading me down the road to financial ruin for 22 yrs. now, and only 2 years ago did I have the injury that took away the game plan that I had developed to be able to keep working while having Chronic CH. I am trying very hard to come up with a new plan that will keep me from doing exactly what you are talking aboutending it. I would very much love it if you would join me in the challenge to keep going if for no other reason then to say "Fuck You Beast". You mention Pappy and Leesa both of whom mean a lot to me and both of whom are toughing it out through their own personal hells. I draw on their strengths without them even knowing, but if I asked they would give it freely to me. I want to repeat woobies sentiment. Do what you must to find peace, but do it without malice and pain to anyone else. The Doc you speak of (and I have had my fair share of useless spaces) may be the father or the inspiration of a child that comes along later and finds the cure to this shit. Don't cause a bad ripple effect in the universe for a moment of satisfaction. Look at all these Angels here Dave and ask yourself are you really going to let them all down. They and I won't look down on you, but we will grieve at the passing of another soldier. If you find a way to enrich one more persons life by as little as a kind word then it is not your time to leave! Think about it my friend. I will call you brave for turning back and changing your mind. We come from all races, places, and faiths, but we are a family none the less. Stick around big guy and help inspire others that come behind us. Your new friend........Tim Edited to take out the reference to street drugs which I do not condone :-[ |
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Title: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 8:56am Nani, you are right ... and I tried to go that route. I put aside my pride and hand delivered this letter to my doc: Dear Dr. White 2/14/07 First off, I owe you an apology for my reactions during and after our last appointment. During that visit I became angry at you and even more angry over the following days. I believed that I was doing everything in my power to "heal myself" and truly thought I was. But, I've come to the realization that although I was trying, I was only trying through pride and stubbornness to do it on my own and now have to admit that I can't do it alone. Mainly because I don't know how. (Which if you knew me well, is very hard for me to admit and accept). I do understand that the mind can influence the health of the body as you stated, to what extent, and how to deal with it, again, I do not know. I want to follow your advice, but will need yours and others help as my attempts have obviously failed. I do however seriously want as much of my life back that can be achieved. This is where I need your help in doing so. After talking with you and sharing your suggestion of "healing myself" I have talked with others wiser than myself and have received many's advice that because of my "nature" to overdo my own attempts that there are people who can help me in the correct manner. I have heard good things from people who have used the help of The Upper Arkansas Home Health or possibly Home Health Service. As I understand, they can help me rehabilitate physically through therapists and counseling. This would have to be recommended by you as my doctor. I was told Medicare would cover the fees in this case if ordered by you. I would like nothing more than to become self sufficient once again. I've shown I can't do this on my own as I thought I could, so I'm ready to take the route you suggested of healing myself ... just need physical and mental counsel to guide me. I have not contacted either service, I'll follow your recommendations if you feel this is a step in the right direction. Thank you for your time, Dave Obviously his answer was "no". He will settle for nothing less than hospitalization, and that is in no way how I plan to go out. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by sandie99 on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:05am Dave, when I read your posts, they reminded me of myself and those days when I was thinking about suicide. Don't worry, I'm not going to try to persuade you to change your mind; you are in charge of that. I just ask you to think about the other people your decition involves for a while. It's never about just you. I hope that you're in peace with that. Hugs & prayers, Sanna |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by andrewjb on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:08am go to hospital ?? there, you"ll meet other doctors that may hear you better. breath deep, keep doors open. andrew |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Gator on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:19am Views on whether suicide is right or not aside, I have just a quick thought for Dave and anyone else contemplating this route - "Suicide by Cop" is still suicide. Having served as a patrolman for almost 10 years, I can say it's a pretty shitty thing to do to someone who doesn't know you. Very often, cops who shoot another person, even in self defense, suffer from some serious mental depression and sometimes commit suicide themselves. If you are bound and determined to kill yourself, do it yourself. Don't put that burden on someone who doesn't deserve it. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by sandie99 on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:25am Wise words, Gator. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:32am on 02/23/07 at 08:16:53, Dave_Emond wrote:
And just what is your plan for the "doc"? Whatever your plan, if you're looking to end anything, keep it at home. In the end, whatever the "doc" did or didn't do, your body and your mind have you in the situation you are in. He created neither. Will be sorry to hear if you've actually fulfilled your mission to end it as Iwould for anybody. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:56am I don't doubt Dave is suicidal folks, both friends I knew would say the same things. At some point just as it seems here, people stop to listen or just shrug it off. Dave please get some help, tomorrow is another day. I'll pm you my number, if you can talk, I'll gladly listen. Sean........................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:10am The thread/forum/community confuses me. Many of you obviously 'know' this gentleman, yet 8 hours after publishing his suicide note he is still online, which implies his friends failed to alert those who must be alerted in such an instance. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Margi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:15am Dave, my thoughts are with you. Please listen to your Christian spirit right now. I really think you are re-living Job's life in a lot of ways. Think about that and remember how that turned out, ok? I wish you nothing but peace, Dave. Please don't do the wrong thing here. You've done so many good things in your life and have helped so many less fortunate. Don't erase that by making an eternal mistake. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:21am I thank all of you so much for your thoughts, I need to remind everyone that is barely has anything to do with the Chronic CH. I was able to run a successful business for a couple years while dealing with the CH. In trying to keep up here and with IM's and time running out, I can only try to find things I've already written to explain more. I think this is a copy of my last post: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It's good to hear from my friends as well! Hope you are all doing well. I'm somewhat skeptical myself about this Rife Machine too and don't expect it would help with CH at all. But, there have been many other problems coming up that I'd like to believe there is just as much chance some of them could possibly be healing as much as they could mean I'm on my way out soon. Some areas of concern are: Left arm has been numb for a couple months now as well as my right hand fingers. Can still use them, no pain, just feels like they are alseep. (Broken all my glasses and some dishes when I forget how to carry things.) Many memory losses, sometimes days or even weeks. (Have to look in my trash can to see if I'd been eating during those lapses.) Recently went 10 days where 90% of my stool was just pure blood and would have to be on the pot at least every 20 to maybe 40 minutes. Most of that seems to be slowing down now and is only occasionally. But, then I had another 3 and a half days of spitting up mouthfuls of blood almost constantly. I think this was coming from my throat. Been passing out quite often without warning, seems to last anywhere from 10 minutes to hours. When I come around I'll be in a Cluster attack and takes me a while to just remember my name, where I am, etc. Wish I'd at least feel like these would give me rest feelings of sleep, but they don't. When I do feel like I might sleep I have to tie string to my toes as both my legs very often cramp up so tight, I have to pull on the strings pretty hard to try to strech out the cramps. (That is real fun!) There are many more problems, but can't go into because another area is just trying to write this much, I'm already sweating like mad and getting hunched over in too much pain. (Already have lost my right oblique muscles and now the left side I can feel separating as well ... about the top quarter is already peeling away.) That post is just a minor area of what is happening to me. This "Doc" I'm seeing now was my first doctor when back in 2003 I went into massive seizures or convulsions of nerve pains that felt as if my CH was traveling throughout my body. I spent 2 years here and in Denver with top doctors and went through major tests, everyone you can think of. But, they found that my "Doc" here had screwded me up with 120mg of Prednisone with a taper off of less than a month and no ATCH or Cortisol to restart my Immune System. Bob W first told be about these neccessities, which I in turn brought to my doc here. He ignored the information, I ended up in an ambulance in major convulsions, and of course lying flat on my back for a 30 mile ride to the ER I went into a Kip 10 CH attack as well. My body gave out and I died. By a miracle, a paramedic showed up out on this mountain road and using a Nasal Trumpet they shove up through the nose to the brain, they brought me back. Truthfully, I loved wherever it was I went, only time in many years I felt no pain, no stress ... just pure bliss. Am I afraid suicide will not take me to that same place? Very, very much. But I know I'm dying, so do all the doctors. My Dad begged last year to get out of the hospital ... same symptoms so close to mine. I got them to agree to release him as they said he'd only live 3 months. He lived in Nevada, they didn't let him go home, and he died exactly 3 months later in that damn hospital. Can I be that wrong for my love of the mountains and want to pass on up there where my brother who killed himself is in the dust and now at peace? Maybe I'm wrong to want to punish this "doc", I don't know? But if I could keep writing about him and his treatments some may understand. I've got about an hour and a half to decide that. I'm pouring in sweat all over my keyboard now in severe pain, my muscles are starting to drop and Damn it hurts! It never ends! Shit ... if I can't draw more strength, I guess the doc goes free unless my spot up in the mountains regains me some strength until Monday. Not likely though as I will be going without food or water and no way to get back. Only enough gas in my truck to get me close to where I'm heading and where even if they find my truck, it will be too late. I truly just wish you could understand my position. I have little time left to Sorry, can't type anymore Love to All, Dave |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by froggy on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:22am Dave, Glad to see you've made it through the night. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:25am anybody know who this Doc is? it might be worth giving him a heads up and let him know he has a potential problem looking to visit him today. I'm sure the doctor should probably call the police. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Dave_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:37am Mike, I Understand ... no doc ... no cops! Thanks for bringing that up. I figure no one knows what that plan was but you and I, but I did tell you you could repeat anything I said. Dave |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by tanner on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:44am Hey Dave, I am ramping up to what is likely to be a long hit so I won't be typing much longer but I am home. 864-595-4326....call me and we will talk while we scream. i love the mountains myself and know CO. quite well. i have unlimited long distance so can call you right back! cmon man! i will leave the number up for a while so you can see it........Tim |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by alienspacebabe on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:49am on 02/23/07 at 10:10:56, Lobster wrote:
Lobster: Dave has moved. I no longer have his address or phone number, though I have asked for them. There is nothing I can do, nor can anyone else who doesn't know where he lives. It's not that we don't care - we can't help. Dave: Woobie and the others are right - suicide is personal. Don't involve someone else. Maybe leave a letter for the doctor, for your ex, for anyone else. Should you choose to follow through: God Speed - I will miss you. Lizzie |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:00am I see Buena Vista, CO in his profile. I see (719) 395-8395 & (719) 395-8605 for his phone numbers. The first number is busy right now, so it is still active. Buena Vista Police Department (719) 395-8654 Easy peasy. Have at it. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by alienspacebabe on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:04am on 02/23/07 at 11:00:00, Lobster wrote:
And the question now is: If you have all this information, WHY THE FUCK HAVEN'T YOU CALLED THE POLICE??? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by kcopelin on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:10am Just tried calling-got no answer after 20 rings-Dave!!!! if you are there please answer your phone. I need to talk with you!!! Come on my brother! kathy |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:39am on 02/23/07 at 10:49:06, alienspacebabe wrote:
Lizzie, I respect you a ton but this is completely false. Suicide is not just personal. It effects many people. It is not a good way out of pain. There are people who care about him, if nowhere else but here and they would miss him and be pained. People contimplating suicide convince themselves that they would be making the world better by doing it. They need to be reminded that there are people in this world who will be hurt by this decision. Suicide is either caused by a mental conidition where reality is destorted or by the selfish wish to rid pain for themselves disregarding the pain it will cause others. I doubt the latter is true for most people. The former needs to be treated by professionals. Suicide is NOT the best option and I find it sad so many people feed this belief that it is a good option by telling him it is OK. I understand you are trying to be supportive but try supporting his life and not his death. Dave: Contact me if you are still around. I have gone through what you are feeling and I understand. While my life may be very different, I can relate. please let others try and help you. If EVERYONE fails, then you can return to your plan. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by alienspacebabe on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:43am Perhaps I should rephrase my statement that suicide is personal. I was referring to Gator's post about suicide-by-cop, and seasonalbloomer's post about protecting the doctor. Personal = don't take someone else out with you. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Margi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:45am Framcire, actually Lizzie IS supporting his life and isn't telling him suicide is ok. There's a lot of history here and Liz has done a lot for Dave in the past in helping him. Actually, I think what Liz said to Dave just now is a huge gesture of friendship. I'm sure Dave recognizes that too. It's more about respect than anything else. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:49am Dave suicide is not the answer to your problems bud, all it does is dump them on everyone else, so lets not go there ok. Give me a call, and we'll try to get through it. I know your feeling down right now, god knows we've all felt that way, you are so not alone bud. The phones on bud. Keep the faith, Sean............................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:53am on 02/23/07 at 11:04:32, alienspacebabe wrote:
LOL... just LOL. I immediately sent them an email with all the pertinent details and walked a friendly PD rep right to this very thread. On an additional note, while I was chatting with them someone else called as well. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by jimmers on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:57am Now is not the time to start tearing at each others throats. Stay focused on the problem at hand. Jimmers |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:04pm LOL Jimmer... serious times... no worries. She meant nothing... she still wants to have the ruff secks with me. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Brewcrew on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:07pm on 02/23/07 at 12:04:39, Lobster wrote:
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by tanner on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:09pm on 02/23/07 at 12:04:39, Lobster wrote:
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:11pm on 02/23/07 at 11:45:14, Margi wrote:
Sorry, I didn't mean to suggest Lizzie was doing that. As I said, I have a lot of respect for Lizzie. Maybe I misread some comments but some people here (not lizzie) have made it sound like they are OK with his choice. thanks for the clearification Lizzie. I have heard people argue in the past that suicide is a personal choice and use that to justify it. Thank you again for making it clear what you were syaing. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by kcopelin on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:14pm Lobster, this is a serious subject involving the life of one of our family members. I do not even pretend to understand what you just said, but I think it's time for you to back slowly away from the keyboard. Now. Thank you. kathy |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:20pm on 02/23/07 at 12:09:03, tanner wrote:
Nothing major. Someone slammed me hard for not calling the police while I was on the phone with the police, that is all. Said slams have since been removed, and all is again right in the world. Thanks for the advice Kathy. Did you get through to the PD, or were you still stuck just watching your 'family member' take his life? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Jimi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:22pm Linda, have you had any luck with the other number? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:25pm Just for the record, its DAVE EDMOND, for all of you newbies who don't know him ;) Still waiting for your call Dave. Sean............................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:28pm I talked to Dave last year on a number that I had for him and it worked. I just called that number again and a very angry woman who must be getting all of our calls told me to tell you guys to stop calling her number. There is no Dave Emond living at that number. Dave...you listed me as one of your friends and if that is true, call me. Linda |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Jimi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:29pm Ok, thanks Linda. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:31pm on 02/23/07 at 12:28:28, Linda_Howell wrote:
Its not Emond, its EDMOND with a D no?? Sean................................. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:35pm Dave, By your very words you have shown that you know you have friends. Friends that will be devastated when you are gone. Friends that will not tolerate such selfish thoughts. At the end, the only thing that has kept me alive has been the knowledge that my suicide would, perhaps, kill others. Please, my friend, get some help. Find the right doctor, the right kind of doctor. Even Hospice care would be better. Please, for you friends. Don't let us down. With love, -Shawn |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:38pm Thats his new profile Linda, his name is Edmond. The board won't let you use your old profile after you delete it. But it is Edmond with a D, anybody?? This is important. Sean......................................... Annette Edmond is his wife, did anybody contact her? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:38pm on 02/23/07 at 12:31:31, Sean_C wrote:
On the searches I tried I find two numbers in that town for Dave Emond... no D. Zero hits for 'Edmond'. Zaba turns up 3 Dave Emonds in CO... DAVE L EMOND Born 1958 More Information on DAVE L EMOND 3355 US HWY 50 Map It Recorded: 01/25/2002 DAVE L EMOND business listings Check Yellow Pages CANON CITY, CO 81212 (719) 269-1370 Leave a message for DAVE L EMOND www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check DAVE EMOND More Information on DAVE EMOND 2421 MARION ST Map It Recorded: 03/12/2002 DAVE EMOND business listings Check Yellow Pages DENVER, CO 80210 Leave a message for DAVE EMOND www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check DAVE L EMOND More Information on DAVE L EMOND 2423 MARION ST Map It Recorded: 05/06/2002 DAVE L EMOND business listings Check Yellow Pages DENVER, CO 80210 Leave a message for DAVE L EMOND www.ZabaSearch.com/Google - Background Check |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:43pm Ther's 47 fucking people on this board right now, can ANY-FUCKING-ONE confirm his last mane is EDMOND or EMOND? PLEASE RESPOND Thank you Sean.................................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:45pm on 02/23/07 at 12:38:39, Sean_C wrote:
I just verified in some *old* emails, it really is Dave Emond |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:49pm And Annette lives in Canada with her daughter. In Calgary, I believe near Margi. Margi, can you call her? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:49pm Thanks Shawn, someone else just informed me it is EMOND too, thank you for pm'ing me bud. Can someone please get some info from Annette, and get back to us? Thanks folks, Sean........................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:58pm I don't know why, but it's like the brain just wants there to be a D in the name... but it has never been there I don't know how to contact Annette. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Margi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 12:59pm It is Emond. Only one D. I emailed Annette earlier this morning and have not yet heard back from her. She doesn't live in Calgary, actually, but I do have a current email address for her. Folks, I don't think Dave is in CO anymore. He does mention a care facility in Arkansas in that copy of the letter he posted to his doctor. Anyone remember Dave and Annette's website address? The one that they built to help underpriviledged kids? That might have some current contact info for Dave on it. Dave, if you're still sitting there reading this, please at least post to this thread again ok? The last time this happened to you, you were pretty angry at the results that came about from people that you scared the crap out of. Please don't let that happen again, ok? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Leesa on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:09pm Any one having any luck with a number or anything for Dave?????????? Please for the love of Pete someone find a number or addy for me.............. May be drama for some of you but for me this crap AINT F*CKING FUNNY!!! Leesa :-X |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:13pm http://members.aol.com/socnorbog/emond.htm Is this him? I havent read everything on the site, but maybe we can get some info from a group or two on this site. I went through a bunch on the site. Looks like Urban Peak may be the best contact point. First because it has phone numbers and second because the person who runs the site sounds like he/she is involved with it. Anyway, anyone who knows him want to varify it is his site, if so, try calling Urban peak, maybe they can get a phone number for him that is current. http://www.urbanpeak.org/home.html |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:14pm on 02/23/07 at 12:59:26, Margi wrote:
I think it was Arkansas valley in Colorado. The website "desperate-measures.org" is offline. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Margi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:17pm Fram, yes that is our Dave. Good work. Can anyone call this place? I can't make long distance calls here from work. Someone there probably knows Dave and could get him the help that he needs. "The Arkansas Valley Christian Mission is a nonprofit organization whose clients include residents who are in a temporary crisis, unemployed, under employed, in training for a job, having family difficulties, in chronic need due to illness or unable to get help elswhere. Located at: 122 Cottonwood, Buena Vista, CO 81211. Their mailing address is: PO Box 4646, Buena Vista, CO 81211 or you can call them at 719-395-9321." |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Lobster on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:25pm Q on the alumnus board. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:37pm I contacted Urban peak to see if they had any info on him and they dont. She replied within 3 minutes too. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Leesa on Feb 23rd, 2007, 1:37pm Okay thanks to Margi I just called a mission place in CO that MIGHT have some info on Dave, left a message and I hope to hear back from someone that soon. Ill keep everyone posted on what I find out!!!! Leesa |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by B14CK5H33P on Feb 23rd, 2007, 3:01pm Has anyone TALKED to Dave since he first posted? Leesa, let us know as soon as you find out anything. Has anyone got in touch with Annette? I'm at work and there isn't much I can do from here. Dave, if you're reading this... I know how desperate you are, but remember - this is NOT how you're going out!!! Check your PMs. Carl |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Margi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 3:17pm Carl, check YOUR pm... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 23rd, 2007, 5:19pm Any word yet? Has anybody seen or talked to Dave? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by LadyElaine1 on Feb 23rd, 2007, 5:21pm I just posted Dave is fine the police picked him up and he is being evaluated. They say he is fine. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 23rd, 2007, 5:45pm Good. Events like this make for bad days. I'm glad this one has a happy ending. I hope Dave knows that people worry about him and we go through a lot of pain just watching this kind of stuff. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 6:05pm on 02/23/07 at 17:45:51, fubar wrote:
I couldn't of said it better bro. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by andrewjb on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:05pm just back from work, glad hes being catered for, great to see a well oiled and cared for machine succeed. andrew. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BB on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:19pm I dont know Dave and I was away at work yesterday and missed most of this. It shook me up though. I am glad he is in the right place now and I pray that he gets the help and care that he needs and that he will get better. I only wish to say one thing here. Please seek help EARLY for whatever problem(s) you may have, talk to someone, please dont wait until its gone too far. If the doctors you are seeing are not good enough, please seek others and keep seeking until you find one suitable for yourself. There are good doctors out there who really care, they do exist. Painfree wishes to you all. Hugs. Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BlueMeanie on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:38pm Glad to hear that it is NOT the end. Good work peeps. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Jonny on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:45pm The word is out to delete this thread. Why do we need a suicide thread on a pain site! |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 23rd, 2007, 9:59pm Wonderful Idea. DJ? Stephanie? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by tanner on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:12pm on 02/23/07 at 21:45:39, Jonny wrote:
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by ClusterChuck on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:22pm on 02/23/07 at 21:45:39, Jonny wrote:
This may piss off a LOT of people, including a good friend, Jonny. BUT why delete it??? Are we to deny that suicide IS a possibility, even if it is a LOW possibility?? Sweeping the concept under the rug, is not going to stop it. I think this thread shows the REAL possibility, AND that there are other factors that lead to this decision, as Dave pointed out. This thread ALSO shows and proves how much we care and watch out for each other. There are parts of this thread that are heartbreaking, but the outcome is heart WARMING. I say, Leave it alone!!! Chuck |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Annette_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:23pm I have to say that I strongly disagree with deleting this thread and any directly associated with it. I think it is important that anyone who comes to this site knows just how desperate people can become with this disorder. I know in my heart that Dave's cry was for help. By deleting this or any thread like it, you are saying you only want things to be pretty here. This pain is real, this desperation is real and this despair is REAL! Create a special category and move it if you must, but don't try to just make it go away because it might scare someone who doesn't want to see the ugly side of this disorder. JMHO Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by artonio7 on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:25pm on 02/23/07 at 22:22:27, ClusterChuck wrote:
Ditto! I say leave the post... but edit the name... the content is important but the name of the original poster should be modified to anonymous. This will not deter anyone wanting help from posting in the future. my two cents with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:28pm With all due respect Annette, and I do respect you...you know as well as several others here that this is NOT just about CH. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BB on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:32pm on 02/23/07 at 22:23:05, Annette_Emond wrote:
From one supporter to another, and from one Annette to another, well said sister, I agree with you whole heartedly. I printed the whole thread for Daniel to read and it brought tears to his eyes and it got him thinking. Firstly because he could see so much of himself there, secondly he realised how much people care. Life is worth living when there is love and there is plenty of love going around here, enough to carry each and everyone of us through our battles. Hugs and painfree wishes to all. Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Annette_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:33pm on 02/23/07 at 22:28:29, Linda_Howell wrote:
No Linda, it's not. It is also about doctors who don't know enough, and don't care to learn. It is about people who are new to this disorder who may also have some other issues(physical or mental) involved. it is about education of the masses who may come here not knowing what may or may not be in store for them. And above all it is about all of those people being able to learn that there is a community here who cares enough to do something when one of their own gets in such deep trouble that they feel they have no where to turn. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:48pm Annette and Cluster Chuck, Of course Suicide and the Dr.s who treat us wrongly and unfairly are always a possibility and THAT should be left here. But this thread (as it is) is about about something that bears almost no resemblance to educating someone. It does however says a lot for these people here who care and have spent a whole day in calling.. researching info on him, posting back and forth, IM-ing, PM-ing, calling me from work calling others while AT work...etc etc etc. O.K. maybe for the sake of newcomers here, it should stay. If for no other reason except that they know that we are all really caring people. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Opus on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:51pm on 02/23/07 at 08:16:53, Dave_Emond wrote:
Good move Dave, I finally learned that one. Ignore the troll who won't use quotes correctly, because he has nothing to say that is worth reading. There are lots of stupid docs. When they can't help you they say it is all in your head. Glad your still here. Paul |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Sean_C on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:52pm on 02/23/07 at 22:33:38, Annette_Emond wrote:
I say we leave the thread and let it take its course, let it evolve with ch.com, be it hiding amongst the back pages if thats its destiny. Its who we are, its part of us now. Sometime life is ugly, deal with it. This disease carries more than just pain, depression is definately a major player. I say leave it. Sean............................... |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by E-Double on Feb 23rd, 2007, 10:56pm on 02/23/07 at 22:52:17, Sean_C wrote:
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Annette_Emond on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:04pm Thank you for that Linda. As convoluted as this whole issue is and will continue to be, especially for the originator, it is way more important than a large percentage of the posts that make up the thousands of pages on this site. I am grateful that there was someone here to see, to care, and to help in whatever way was necessary to prevent what could have been tragedy in more lives than you possibly know. We may never know just how important today's intervention was. And that is precisely why this thread should stay up- so that if ever in future some other poor soul is so alone they will know that there is always hope out there somewhere. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Jimi on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:11pm I gotta agree with em Linda. It is what it is. :-* |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Brewcrew on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:18pm We're all adults here. No need to sanitize. Part of being an adult is dealing with the dirty laundry. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by alienspacebabe on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:21pm If I had a vote on whether or not to delete this thread, I'd vote to keep it just as it is. While the issue is very uncomfortable, it's a reminder to everyone of how important they are to the people here (and the people not here). People have shared stories of how they've had to deal with suicide. People have come forward and gone all-out to help someone, often whom they do not know. jmho, Lizzie |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BB on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:29pm Just on the note of educating those doctors, would it be a good idea to print this thread and send it to the doctors involved ? From my personal perspective, I would really appreciate it if my patients who have any problem with me or my way of treating them would let me know how they really feel. What do you guys think ? Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BlueMeanie on Feb 23rd, 2007, 11:39pm BB, I wouldn't be sending it to the docs involved. If anything it should be sent to a lawyer for a possible lawsuit for which they did or didn't do to Dave. Why not just let it stay and run it's course to another page as it eventually will do. There is already a crisis link stickied to the top of this section. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by B14CK5H33P on Feb 24th, 2007, 10:24am You want to delete this thread? You want to diminish someone else's suffering? I am GLAD I am different!!! I may not have much, but I have a conscience. How quickly we forget the good done by someone who is worse off than most of us. If this thread is deleted from this site - SO AM I! Some of you may get your wish... ..so be it! Not a fuckwad without a heart, Carl D |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 24th, 2007, 10:30am If we are saying that suicide is an option for treatment of Ch, then leave it. If we are saying that Dave is better served with this thread staying up, then keep it. If not: If we are saying that we want people to know how much we care at the expense of Dave's feelings and the fact we could be unwittingly suggesting that suicide is a decent option, then let's keep it. Otherwise, wouldn't our compassion be better served deleting this thread? P.S. This thread is not about CH or bad doctors, it is about a troubled friend who is battling a horrible affliction (depression) |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by B14CK5H33P on Feb 24th, 2007, 10:37am on 02/24/07 at 10:30:54, FramCire wrote:
Um, depression is NOT his only affliction. Nor is CH. Ever had your muscle hang off of your bone? No I am NOT advocating suicide, but apparently not alot of people KNOW Dave. He is not someone who would consider suicide, especially after his brother took that exit last year. His father also died of ALS last year, and he has been suffering with it for a long time now. Dave is suffering much more than CH or depression, and dealing with much more than most of us ever will. Also, Dave is someone I consider a brother and if you want to fight with him - you've got a fight with me. Sorry, but someone has to have some balls here! Sincerely, Carl D |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by FramCire on Feb 24th, 2007, 10:57am on 02/24/07 at 10:37:31, B14CK5H33P wrote:
Carl, I dont have a problem with Dave. ask around, I found his website, I made contact with groups he was involved with to try and find him. I want to help him. Often people who are depressed (which is what would make a guy who "is not someone who would consider suicide" actually consider it) are then embarassed of their actions/thoughts. My thought of deleting this thread WAS THINKING OF DAVE. So please, don't be belligerant to me. I have posted (and acted) in what I believe Dave's best interest with an educational and 1st hand personal knowledge of depression (and pain). Anyway, I don't feel like incurring anymore of anyones wrath. I stopped posting for a while because you couldnt post an opinion without being antagonized and I guess that hasn't changed. I am going to stick around, because I love a lot of people here but please folks dont wage a battle with someone without knowing their intentions. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Melissa on Feb 24th, 2007, 11:12am Do not delete anything. This thread is not advocating anything. It is an example of reality. CH can snowball, and this thread shows that. That is why this site is here, to SUPPORT those who suffer with CH so circumstances DON'T snowball. MY [smiley=twocents.gif] |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 24th, 2007, 11:15am At this point I understand and accept both opinions regarding deleting or keeping this thread. Personally, I'm not really comfortable having raw suicide experiences up on the board (Note: I'm probably not the guy to call when you're up on the ledge....sorry) But, I do understand that those are my own issues. This thread does demonstrate what is incredible about this community. It's not just a message board out there in the ether, it is a lifeline for many of us in many different ways. So, maybe it should stay. Scott |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 24th, 2007, 11:20am Its DJs decision. No one elses. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Jimi on Feb 24th, 2007, 11:23am and unless either he or Steph has not been on the board in the last 2 days, I think we have their decision. It will slowly fade from the front page in a day or so, but will be in the archives in case someone wants or needs to pull it up. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by andrewjb on Feb 24th, 2007, 3:04pm :). this, for me, demonstrates the very real need of this site. it helps people deal with a desperate condition. andrew. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 24th, 2007, 5:52pm I could go either way. If it was taken down, Dave still is OK. I'm not sure I see the harm in it. It's not like we're winding back the clock and undoing any real-world things that happened (good or bad). Personally, if I was unhappy about a thread or my participation in it, I would change it myself. In fact, I did do that when I changed my "Please Die" words on the Nancy Pelosi thread. It's not like that un-happened. DJ can do whatever he wants, I'm not going to be injured by it, right? He has his reasons for doing things, and who am I to question them? I'm just a user of the site he put here. I don't have any ownership even if I donate money (that's why it's called a donation). -Fu |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BB on Feb 24th, 2007, 6:16pm The whole thread was started by Dave himself. If he wishes he can delete it even if DJ doesnt. If Dave deletes it, I am sure no one here would have any problem with it. Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by artonio7 on Feb 24th, 2007, 6:16pm I feel very strongly that any instance of Dave's name, address and phone number, be removed from this thread. Keep the thread intact though. I'm not suggesting that Dave's profile be altered in any way either. This is a very personal subject in a very public forum... the results of this thread obviously speaks for itself. Thank God he's getting the kind of attention he requires. This situation should be handled at this point with consideration and respect for Dave and I feel he needs to be protected at this point. When he comes back and if he agrees to have his name replenished to this post then I believe it's his call. Ultimately the decision is up to DJ Once again I am proud to call you all my family. with warm regards, Tony |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 24th, 2007, 6:43pm Quote:
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by fubar on Feb 24th, 2007, 6:48pm Does anybody think, for one instant, that DJ would leave it up if Dave asked him to take it down? Is there any reason we should keep debating it? |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by BB on Feb 24th, 2007, 6:51pm on 02/24/07 at 18:43:23, chewy wrote:
Sorry my ignorance. I thought if you had started a thread you can delete the whole thing. That option is available on other forums that I know of. Apparently here you can only delete your own posts. My apology. Annette |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by froggy on Feb 24th, 2007, 9:18pm From my experience, you can delete your own posts but not the thread. I for one thought that this whole Dave experience was a little bit of a reality check. It was tough, cuz at first it was scary trying to find his phone number or anyone who knew him. I read his post 3 minutes after he posted it. It was like calling for help in a black hole - a bit of a helpless feeling. Then word was that he does this every now and then. So, some of us were like is this for real or is this a real cry for help. I think it's evident from all of the posts what everyone thought. And I'm glad he's getting the help he needs. |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by Mac_Muz on Feb 26th, 2007, 2:49pm Being new I don't know if my opinion matters, but it would be a new opinion. I have no idea who Dave is, nor many of you others for that matter. I have a few friends here. I am not so sure.... I have been able to offer help. I read this entire post word for word. I saw things in Dave that are much like me in some ways, except I have no where near the problems he does, and not so much as most. I don't have any history with Dave either, but I share the Ch but milder, and still at that, suicide has entered my thinking when the Ch is in full bore mode. I have nerve damage which causes pains in my back, legs and cramping in my feet. Under the Ch I am not so aware of where I am or who I am, it seems nearly universal. I saw a calling for help, with that some attention perhaps. I saw anger, some of which I feel. I consider this WAR against the CH.... I said that in 04 when I signed up, and got laughed at, but I can handle it. I suffer depression from Ch, but other causes as well. If my opinion matters and it is ok with the mods and Dave, and if I had a vote, this thread would remain... mac |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by catlind on Feb 28th, 2007, 12:48am on 02/24/07 at 18:16:44, artonio7 wrote:
I've known Dave for some years now. He's been on ch.com for a very long time. He is fully informed and aware of the public nature of this site. If he didn't want his name involved in a thread of this nature, he wouldn't have posted it. DJ and Steph will do what they deem best for the site and for Dave. I do not agree that the thread should be removed; It can serve as a very valuable piece of information for people who are in a similar mental state - and also show people that this IS a public board and if they don't want information of this nature out in the public, they shouldn't post it on the public forum but rather use IM's email or PM's. Dave posted this info, if he wants his name removed, or the association of details removed, he can remove his own posts. Dave, I hope you have found a way to deal with your latest cycle of illness and pain. Ultimately, you have to make your own decision about where your destiny lies. Cat |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by ccbiggsoo7 on Feb 28th, 2007, 11:51am geeez what a soap opera ! No need to fight over this, remember opinions are like not a very nice persons! |
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Title: Re: SO THIS IS THE END ... MY FRIEND(s) Post by chewy on Feb 28th, 2007, 12:02pm You aint kiddin! Let it gor for Gods sakes. |
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