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(Message started by: kayarr on Jan 22nd, 2007, 10:43pm)

Title: Hillary's new name
Post by kayarr on Jan 22nd, 2007, 10:43pm
Jeff really came up with a great one...Billary:)  That poor, angry rhetoric laden female.  I kinda feel bad for her and anyone she comes in contact with.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by chewy on Jan 22nd, 2007, 11:08pm
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/21dc6139.jpg?t=1169525288

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by kayarr on Jan 22nd, 2007, 11:34pm
Isn't she pretty...LOL!!!!!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by LeLimey on Jan 23rd, 2007, 3:44am
Was that Billary or Bilious?  ;;D

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by floridian on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:21am

on 01/22/07 at 22:43:22, kayarr wrote:
Jeff really came up with a great one...Billary:)  That poor, angry rhetoric laden female.  I kinda feel bad for her and anyone she comes in contact with.


Yeah, we conservatives long for the good old days when women either stayed out of politics, or at least projected femininity.  Like Margaret Thatcher  ;)

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by kayarr on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:41am

on 01/23/07 at 07:21:20, floridian wrote:
Yeah, we conservatives long for the good old days when women either stayed out of politics, or at least projected femininity.  Like Margaret Thatcher  ;)


LOL!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by deltadarlin on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:47am

on 01/23/07 at 07:21:20, floridian wrote:
Yeah, we conservatives long for the good old days when women either stayed out of politics, or at least projected femininity.  Like Margaret Thatcher  ;)



No, we conservatives would actually prefer a woman who has a little bit of pride and self-worth, not one who puts up with a philandering husband, pretending that it doesn't exist/looks the other way,  in order to further her own political agenda.  Or perhaps prefer a woman who didn't promote a health program that almost bankrupted the system in TN.

darlin

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by brewcrew on Jan 23rd, 2007, 8:20am
I'd settle for an original idea or two.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by chewy on Jan 23rd, 2007, 8:31am

Quote:
or at least projected femininity.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/Reno.jpg?t=1169559219

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Cathi04 on Jan 23rd, 2007, 10:25am
OMG! What a display of feminine pulchritude!!!!!!!!!!!

:o

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Paul98 on Jan 23rd, 2007, 10:58am
Bile-ry comes to mind.

-P.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by floridian on Jan 23rd, 2007, 11:27am

on 01/23/07 at 07:47:26, deltadarlin wrote:
No, we conservatives would actually prefer a woman who has a little bit of pride and self-worth, not one who puts up with a philandering husband, pretending that it doesn't exist/looks the other way,  in order to further her own political agenda.  Or perhaps prefer a woman who didn't promote a health program that almost bankrupted the system in TN.

darlin


Hillary might not be a Senator except for the fact that the Republicans ran a phillanderer against her - Rudy Guiliani.  


Quote:
HERE is one woman who could cause Rudy Giuliani, the former New York mayor, more problems than Hillary Clinton in the race for the White House: she is Donna Hanover, his second wife, writes Sarah Baxter.

Hanover, an actress and broadcaster, was enraged by Giuliani’s flagrant infidelity towards the end of their 18-year marriage and the divorce case was vicious. Giuliani’s advisers fear that she could be a loose cannon in the 2008 campaign.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2089-2534621,00.html


What other repeat phillanderers are considering a run for the Republican Presidential slot?  Good ole Newt - cheated on his first wife, then walked into the hospital when she was being treated for cancer to ask for a divorce. Cheated on his second wife, asked for a divorce when she developed a neurological condition that looked like multiple sclerosis. Now on #3, like Rudy.

Strange world when the only Republican candidate who hasn't had multiple wives is a Mormon.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Bob P on Jan 23rd, 2007, 2:14pm
Yeah, what Flo said.  How many of them damn neocons got blowjobs in the hallway off the Oval Office while sticking cigars up their fellator's wazoo while they should have been working for us.

All while their wife, Hillary, is throwing lamps around the private bedroom screaming, "Dammit Bill, I need to be fucked more than once a year!"

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 2:20pm
I still can't believe this woman was elected to the Senate.

Way to go New Yorkers!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 23rd, 2007, 2:39pm

on 01/23/07 at 07:47:26, deltadarlin wrote:
No, we conservatives would actually prefer a woman who has a little bit of pride and self-worth

darlin


you are saying a spouse that stays with their spouse after infidelity has no pride or self worth?

Harsh!!!


Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 3:05pm
How many times would you forgive your souse before you just say enough is enough, B$?

Billy has had his Willy in a lot of holes and she is still with him. That doesn't say much for her.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by LeLimey on Jan 23rd, 2007, 3:49pm
There's infidelity and there's infidelity. He didn't stray once but repeatedly and publicly and as a woman, I don't know how she could even look at him never mind stay with him.
It was another first lady - one who was actually a LADY who said "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice - shame on me."

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by deltadarlin on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:16pm

on 01/23/07 at 14:39:36, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
you are saying a spouse that stays with their spouse after infidelity has no pride or self worth?

Harsh!!!



So, if your wife went out and had numerous affairs (not one, not two, not even three, but a multitude of *indiscretions*), you'd welcome her back home with loving arms?

Flo,
I don't care of any of those who are philanderers, BUT, as a woman, I won't vote for another woman who has repeatedly accepted her husband back after he has publically humiliated her with his repeated indiscretions.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:39pm

on 01/22/07 at 23:08:39, chewy wrote:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/21dc6139.jpg?t=1169525288



I bet she has a bigger penis than Bill! ;;D

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Paul98 on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:43pm

on 01/23/07 at 16:39:12, JeffB wrote:
I bet she has a bigger penis than Bill! ;;D


My bet is on the stones!  LOL.

-P.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:49pm

on 01/23/07 at 15:49:43, LeLimey wrote:
It was another first lady - one who was actually a LADY who said "Fool me once shame on you, Fool me twice - shame on me."


Actually she said " Fool me once, shame on, ......... shame on you.  Fool me, cant get fooled again."


Jeff and Darlin, my wife and i talked about it and we decided we dont want any extramarital sex.   Other couples dont have a problem with this kind of thing.  Some couples have extramarital sex all the time and think its no big deal.

I guess it depends on the personal choices of the couple as to whether or not its ok.  And you know what?  Its THEIR business.  It doesnt mean they are self hating or have no pride, it means its their business.

Who am I to judge another couple?    

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 4:57pm
Well goody,

And when you run for the highest office in the land I will consider that. Until then, I don't think this woman and her past will do anything to bring respect and admiration back to our shores. This woman has an agenda and I don't think it's to benefit the United States of America. ;)

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by floridian on Jan 23rd, 2007, 5:09pm
Not sure if she was fooled again and again, or if she saw a pattern and re-negotiated the terms of the marriage - maybe they kept separate beds.  Some women choose to hold a flawed marriage together for various reasons - including the children, religion, finances, social customs, etc. Is that always wrong?  I don't think so. Some choose to maintain an imperfect union out of strength, others out of weakness.    

I really don't have enough information to judge her as a candidate based on her marriage.  I don't see evidence that she did anything wrong - and her motives for not ditching him remain private.  

   




Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by brewcrew on Jan 23rd, 2007, 5:13pm
It's really quite simple - if she thinks ditching him will gain her votes, she'll dump him.

If it's more popular to hang onto his sorry behind, she'll stick with him.

Do people not understand politics? IT'S A FUCKING POPULARITY CONTEST!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 23rd, 2007, 5:28pm

on 01/23/07 at 17:13:09, brewcrew wrote:
Do people not understand politics? IT'S A FUCKING POPULARITY CONTEST!



That is true, Bill.  My Dad and I were just talking about this over the weekend.  

A lot of people don't vote for the person they think would do the best job, they vote for the person they think can win.  Its really a shame.



Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 6:07pm

on 01/23/07 at 17:09:41, floridian wrote:
Not sure if she was fooled again and again, or if she saw a pattern and re-negotiated the terms of the marriage - maybe they kept separate beds.  Some women choose to hold a flawed marriage together for various reasons - including the children, religion, finances, social customs, etc. Is that always wrong?  I don't think so. Some choose to maintain an imperfect union out of strength, others out of weakness.    

I really don't have enough information to judge her as a candidate based on her marriage.  I don't see evidence that she did anything wrong - and her motives for not ditching him remain private.  

   


Bill and Hill are career politicians plain and simple. She has her agenda and thats that. Personally I think she's a Socialist and have read a few articles about her college days that confirm my thoughts. We talk about ethics and values in our government and how they have been absent in the past years (decades), her nomination would not do anything to bolster any of those.
Lest we forget Whitewater, travelgate, and then the screwing around. I think she would damage what so many women have worked for all these years.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by tanner on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:16pm
Sorry to disagree Jeff, but I for one think we are way overdue for a female President!

Therefor I would like to nominate.....

http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e374/haywoodboss/jess.jpg

Politics wouldn't change much, but the speeches would be a lot more interesting ;;D


ducking and hiding now.....Tim

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by floridian on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:16pm
True that they are politicians. Unfortunately, only politicians run for major offices - Joe Schmoe has zero chance, even if he has good ideas and a decent track record at managing something. Popularity is a big factor, and money usually helps with that.    

Whitewater?  Travelgate?  What about all of the dozens of other politically motivated investigations into Bill's administration that also amounted to nothing??  Shouldn't those count against her, as well?  

I don't see her as the radical that the right makes her out to be. In fact, her early support for the war in Iraq may end up being one of her greatest drawbacks.


Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:23pm
I think there is a dead guy who shot himself that would disagree with you. But guess the right wing conspiracy lives.


And Tim, there is no way Jessica Alba could get ANYTHING done or give speeaches with me constantly mounted on her

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Jonny on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:26pm

on 01/23/07 at 19:16:35, tanner wrote:
Sorry to disagree Jeff, but I for one think we are way overdue for a female President!


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3db29b3127cce9fbec1fbaff700000016108AZM2bNk5bM6

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3ce02b3127cce9fbec1c22a3600000016108AZM2bNk5bM6

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3ce02b3127cce9fbec1c3ab0700000016108AZM2bNk5bM6

..................................... ;;D

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:28pm
;;DNice

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by tanner on Jan 23rd, 2007, 7:32pm

on 01/23/07 at 19:23:15, JeffB wrote:
And Tim, there is no way Jessica Alba could get ANYTHING done or give speeaches with me constantly mounted on her

 
Gotta love a constituent that recognizes all the possible candidates with only a picture ;;D

Sorry every one I spent the whole day researching MS treatment options for lin's little sis and I just needed a break from serious issues!

I will now return you to your regular channel.....tim

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Redd715 on Jan 23rd, 2007, 8:27pm

on 01/23/07 at 19:16:50, floridian wrote:
True that they are politicians. Unfortunately, only politicians run for major offices - Joe Schmoe has zero chance, even if he has good ideas and a decent track record at managing something. Popularity is a big factor, and money usually helps with that.    

Whitewater?  Travelgate?  What about all of the dozens of other politically motivated investigations into Bill's administration that also amounted to nothing??  Shouldn't those count against her, as well?  

I don't see her as the radical that the right makes her out to be. In fact, her early support for the war in Iraq may end up being one of her greatest drawbacks.


I'm the sales Rep. entusted with being imparcial and running any and all political ads that come threw the Central.  There is no lack of attempts at corruption let me assure you.

I have one client who will spen thousands in ad copy as "in kind" donation, to further his own political agenda.  Talk about lobying at the local level.  

I can sometimes want to puke over the content of some of these ads, but I'm a professional at what I do, and I'm also trusted to be unbiased unlike my fellow coworkers.

So....with 8 candidates running for mayor this year...(incumbant is stepping down) there is a huge contoversy here right now.

Have I mentioned I HATE politics?

But my boss loves to streach our comfort zones...and I never dissapoint HER.  

Now I'm starting vacation....well earned...and desperately needed.

Glad I have my own assistant now to cover during the primary elections, because  there will be a huge influx of ads right now, but I have trained her well..and I have no worrys she'll do fine, and not screw it all up.

Play safe my friends and family, I'll catch ya on the flip side!


Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by artonio7 on Jan 23rd, 2007, 8:59pm

on 01/23/07 at 20:27:59, Redd715 wrote:
Snip

I have one client who will spen thousands in ad copy as "in kind" donation, to further his own political agenda.  Talk about lobying at the local level.  

snip


Special interest groups... How about a little campaign reform of the most basic sort.

I say any and all political contributions go into a general campaign fund to be equally distributed to all candidates regardless of their party.

just my 2 cents

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by andrewjb on Jan 23rd, 2007, 10:41pm


http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b3db29b3127cce9fbec1fbaff700000016108AZM2bNk5bM6

;;D. what did hillary put on bills trousers ?

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Charlie on Jan 24th, 2007, 2:09am
Hilllary spun gold out of her husband's philandering. Also, Upstate New Yorkers like Hillary. She has brought a ton of money and attention to this end of the state.

Bill's blow job harmed us how? He left semen stains, Bush has left bloodstains on three continents. http://www.dopeometer.com/images/ok_sm.gif

No one ever needed blowjob more than George Bush.

Charlie

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by andrewjb on Jan 24th, 2007, 5:42am
:o, who on earth would oblige ? is this why he*d like to get to mars ?

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by brewcrew on Jan 24th, 2007, 7:16am

on 01/24/07 at 02:09:25, Charlie wrote:
Upstate New Yorkers like Hillary. She has brought a ton of money and attention to this end of the state.

I hope that's not the standard by which politicians are judged.


Quote:
Bush has left bloodstains on three continents.

One could argue it was necessary to keep this country safe from the terrorist activity that went utterly unchecked and unchallenged by his predecessor.


Quote:
No one ever needed blowjob more than George Bush.

You'll get no argument from me on that one, Sir Charles!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Bob P on Jan 24th, 2007, 9:48am
Hilly has always liked war.  Years ago she was a Goldwater Girl, stumping for the guy who proposed the use of nuclear weapons in Viet Nam.  Now days she just echos the neolib platform to try to appeal to more people rather than voice her true convictions.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by brewcrew on Jan 24th, 2007, 11:18am

on 01/24/07 at 09:48:53, Bob P wrote:
Hilly has always liked war.  Years ago she was a Goldwater Girl, stumping for the guy who proposed the use of nuclear weapons in Viet Nam.  Now days she just echos the neolib platform to try to appeal to more people rather than voice her true convictions.

And that's why I've become so disillusioned with the American political system - most politicians are just like this.

Roughly 40% of Americans have liberal convictions. Another 40% or so have conservative convictions. And the 20% in the middle have no clue what they believe. It is toward these 20% that all political campaigns are directed.

Very few politicians ever tell us what they truly believe. They tell us what they think will sway that linguini-spined 20% in the middle.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jan 24th, 2007, 11:38am

on 01/24/07 at 07:16:27, brewcrew wrote:
One could argue it was necessary to keep this country safe from the terrorist activity that went utterly unchecked and unchallenged by his predecessor.


Unchecked and unchallenged in the sense that some of the radicals who harmed America are now in jail?  

Keep in mind, Bush is truly not concerned with Bin Laden, and he doesn't spend a lot of time trying to capture or kill him.  Bush has put more effort into protecting Iraqis than he has put into protecting Americans.  

Remember the dudes that planned the bombing of the Cole?  Well, they escaped from jail in June and havent been caught.  Bush put more effort and resources into guarding Saddam than he did into guarding terrorists that have already committed terrorist acts against Americans.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by floridian on Jan 24th, 2007, 1:01pm

on 01/23/07 at 20:59:38, artonio7 wrote:
Special interest groups... How about a little campaign reform of the most basic sort.

with warm regards,
Tony


How's that gonna work?  Don't the Sierra Club and the NRA have a right to speak their peace on an issue or candidate?  Is there a way to stop the unions and the corporations and chambers of commerce from trying to get what they want?  

 

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Kevin_M on Jan 24th, 2007, 1:24pm

on 01/24/07 at 07:16:27, brewcrew wrote:
One could argue it was necessary to keep this country safe from the terrorist activity that went utterly unchecked and unchallenged by his predecessor.



It was not until 1995 that an executive order was instituted that extended the reach of the FBI outside the borders of the U.S., turning it into an international police agency and also in '95 a presidential directive giving the FBI the lead authority on both investigating and preventing acts of terrorism wherever in the world Americans or American interests were threatened.
 The bureaus culture had grown up in the decades fighting the Mafia.  The bureau knew it's enemy then but was deeply uninformed about this new threat, even pronouncing names of contacts and informants from places barely heard of, or believing the threats or nature of terrorism had changed, were difficult.
 In the recent past, terror in America had been largely a domestic product, produced by underground associations like the KKK, (and others mentioned I'll neglect).   The bureau had faced foreign elements before on American soil, notably FATL, a Puerto Rican indedependence group that carried out approximately 150 terrorist acts in the U.S. during the seventies and eighties, but deaths from those attacks were accidental.  
 Realizing radical Islamists had a wider dramatic vision including murder on a large scale was not fully realized except by a couple in the bureau with their new-found responsibilities.  Immediately though upon given this extention, Ramzi Yousef, the World Trade Center bomber was, within a day, renditioned -- legal kidnapping of suspects in foreign lands, a complex time consuming procedure usually planned for months.  The Pentagon sent a bill to the FBI for 12 million for it's fast creativity in Feb. '95, it went unpaid.
 It was hard to open a case against bin Laden in '96 for issuing a fatwa against America from a cave half-way around the world.  
 The 1998 near-simulataneous embassy bombings in Africa were ready to go two years prior but the pull out of international starvation effort "Project New Hope" from Somalia put it on the back burner, coinciding with bin Laden's collapsing fortunes.  The bombings did not go unpunished and in most, aimed at bin Laden.
 Large momentum from radical Islamism had been built against the U.S. by this time and catch-up by the bureau was behind what Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, and Algeria already knew.  Saudi Arabia revoked bin Laden's citizenship and cut off his fortune in Aug. 1995.  
 Since 1984 the FBI had exercised the authority to investigate crimes against Americans abroad, but that mandate had been handicapped by a lack connection with foreign police agencies.  The adapting of the FBI would seem unchallenged and unchecked but it was a quick study at the time.  

Not intending to make excuses for anyone for what followed after Clinton, just some of the scenario of the time.



973.931 W


Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by artonio7 on Jan 24th, 2007, 3:35pm

on 01/24/07 at 13:01:08, floridian wrote:
How's that gonna work?  Don't the Sierra Club and the NRA have a right to speak their peace on an issue or candidate?  Is there a way to stop the unions and the corporations and chambers of commerce from trying to get what they want?  

 


Everyone in this country has the right to speak their piece on an issue or candidate. That's why we vote.

I feel that the playing field should be leveled a bit. All campaign contributions should go into a general fund to be distributed equally amongst all the candidates. If a special interest group wants to dump money into a campaign... so be it... they should NOT however be given the opportunity to buy an election.

just my 2 cents.

with warm regards,
Tony

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by tanner on Jan 24th, 2007, 4:18pm

on 01/24/07 at 15:35:17, artonio7 wrote:
Everyone in this country has the right to speak their piece on an issue or candidate. That's why we vote.

I feel that the playing field should be leveled a bit. All campaign contributions should go into a general fund to be distributed equally amongst all the candidates. If a special interest group wants to dump money into a campaign... so be it... they should NOT however be given the opportunity to buy an election.

just my 2 cents.

with warm regards,
Tony



Ditto.......

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Charlie on Jan 24th, 2007, 7:12pm

Quote:
Upstate New Yorkers like Hillary. She has brought a ton of money and attention to this end of the state.  

I hope that's not the standard by which politicians are judged.
http://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/standart/acute.gif?SSImageQuality=Full http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/die laughing.gif Surely you jest. "Successful" politicians are like Scrooge McDuck swimming in his money bin.

I guess the way the money is used sometimes is a mitigating factor.

Charlie

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by brewcrew on Jan 24th, 2007, 8:27pm

on 01/24/07 at 19:12:19, Charlie wrote:
Surely you jest.  "Successful" politicians are like Scrooge McDuck swimming in his money bin.

I guess the way the money is used sometimes is a mitigating factor.

Actually, I was kinda being serious. As a taxpayer who has no choice in forking over $2k a month to vaious iterations of government, I cherish encountering politicians who would rather see me keep more of that.

As I'm sure I don't have to explain, I don't see very much to cherish these days. Maybe I was born in the wrong century.  ::)

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Jonny on Jan 24th, 2007, 8:32pm

on 01/24/07 at 20:27:38, brewcrew wrote:
As a taxpayer who has no choice in forking over $2k a month to vaious iterations of government, I cherish encountering politicians who would rather see me keep more of that.


If people had to pay quarterly instead of weekly things would change real fast, they would then see how fucked in the ass they were getting!!

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by kimh on Jan 25th, 2007, 5:34pm
LMAO.  I jes cain't tellyaz how much i've MISSED THIS PLACE!  Thanks fer makin me laugh!!!!

PS: Hilary is a poopie head.


Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by B14CK5H33P on Jan 25th, 2007, 6:39pm
Hillary just hasn't been the same since she had her Roddam removed.

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by JeffB on Jan 25th, 2007, 7:00pm
she still has the Rod, Carl. It's just stuck in another place right now! ;)

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by B14CK5H33P on Jan 25th, 2007, 7:23pm

on 01/25/07 at 19:00:36, JeffB wrote:
she still has the Rod, Carl. It's just stuck in another place right now! ;)


Ah, I didn't know Bill had visitors from out of town.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Hillary's new name
Post by Richr8 on Jan 26th, 2007, 3:58pm

on 01/23/07 at 17:13:09, brewcrew wrote:
It's really quite simple - if she thinks ditching him will gain her votes, she'll dump him.



Think you nailed it there Bill.  [smiley=laugh.gif]




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