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(Message started by: Mattrf on Jan 11^th, 2007, 11:57am)

Title: Lidocaine drops? Update
Post by Mattrf on Jan 11^th, 2007, 11:57am

Not sure if it would help CH or not but wanted to share.
My SUNCT ramped up last week and got really bad, now remember I get a constant HA that does not go away. I went to the doctor on Monday and he prescribed me Lidocaine 4% drops, I put two drops up each side of my nose while on my back and have to lie like that for 15 minutes to let it soak in. For the first time in over a year I was actually PF and I mean 100% PF, it was incredible, I had forgotten what it felt like to be PF. Now I can only use it three times in a day and it only lasts for about 4 hours but it does work for me. I am going in this Monday and getting the same stuff through an IV for about four hours in the hopes that it will brake my cycle but even if it doesn’t I finally have a weapon that works on the monster, just hope it keeps working.

I am not sure if this would work on CH or not, has anyone ever had this stuff and tried it for CH?

I want to thank everyone for there support over the last few weeks especially Cyn (Cynjeep89) who is my support angle and has helped me so much in the last few weeks.

Matt
;;D

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:01pm

Yep I stole some from the clinic and poured it in my nose and it didn't work.

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by tanner on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:01pm

Good to hear from you Matt :)

Happy you got some PF time and I know Cyn will be pleased.

..................Tim

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by JeffB on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:07pm

Good deal, Matt.

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by Mattrf on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:10pm

on 01/11/07 at 12:01:07, vietvet2tours wrote:

Yep I stole some from the clinic and poured it in my nose and it didn't work.

Did you do it while on your back with your head tilted back and stay that way for 15 minutes?
The doctor told me it was very important to do this so the Lidocaine would be in the right spot and have time to soak through the membrane.

Matt

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by LeeS on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:47pm

Hi Matt – glad you found some relief with it :)

PG still has some faith in lignocaine for CH: in liquid form it can be given as either nose drops or nasal spray, and as you say, deep in the nostril on the painful side. This can bring mild to moderate relief in some CH sufferers though only a few experience complete pain relief. This drug, therefore, is very rarely useful on its own but can be helpful when taken with other preventative and abortive drugs (allegedly - I've never tried it myself).

All the best with the IV version.

-Lee

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by vietvet2tours on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:51pm

on 01/11/07 at 12:10:49, Mattrf wrote:

Well of course I did.I also snorted a shitload of cola and that didn't work either.Oxygen works for me though.

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by DonnaHar on Jan 11^th, 2007, 12:53pm

My son tried Lidocaine drops without success.......but the doc didn't tell him to lay down and let it soak in. That is probably the secret, as I don't remember any one else who used it saying that they waited either.

I will be sure to pass this on.....thank you!

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by Mattrf on Jan 11^th, 2007, 1:15pm

I didn’t have much hope in it being helpful for CH since SUNCT does not respond to CH medications or preventatives, I would assume that the opposite is also true but wanted to pass it on.

Matt

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by Guiseppi on Jan 11^th, 2007, 1:25pm

Always worth a try to pass stuff on, keep it coming!! I tried Lidocain about 20 years ago. It would rack it down 2-3 clicks on the KIP scale but it usually caused me to barf and left me feeling crummy. Fortunately I found more succesful treatments that didn't have the side affects.

Hope life's treating you well!

Guiseppi

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops?
Post by E-Double on Jan 11^th, 2007, 1:47pm

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Title: Re: Lidocaine drops? Update
Post by Mattrf on Jan 16^th, 2007, 7:00pm

Well I went yesterday and had the IV treatment with Lidocaine for my SUNCT, well it made my headache go away right off the bat then after about an hour and a half the tightness in the left side of my face that has been there from the beginning went away and for the first time in over a year both sides of my face felt the same and pain free.
Then they turned off the IV and within five minutes the tightness came back letting me know that this treatment did not brake my cycle and that the monster was not done with me just yet. I can’t tell you what a let down that was for me and my wife, we tried not to get our hopes up but guess we did because it hit us both very hard that it did not work.

I love my doctor though he refuses to give up, He is putting me on a pill form and hope once we ramp up that maybe we will get the same results but lasting so again back to hoping.

Just wanted to give everyone an update.

Matt

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops? Update
Post by JeffB on Jan 16^th, 2007, 7:39pm

Sorry to hear it didn't break the cycle Matt. Keep your chin up bud and keep fighting that fucking beast!

Title: Re: Lidocaine drops? Update
Post by E-Double on Jan 16^th, 2007, 9:19pm

Still sounds promising though!
Chin up brother