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(Message started by: Jonny on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:00pm)

Title: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Jonny on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:00pm

I have not posted this, but I am getting so frustrated its stupid. for many months I have been batteling the IRS over my fourth quater payment for 2005. Even though I got a refund they say I did not pay the fourth quarter.

"Your tax refund was mailed on July 14, 2006."

My payroll people have sent checks that have been cashed and still I get notice (Last notice) that my house was going up for auction.....and they will attach my bank accounts. Ive emptied my accounts because of this.

This is from their site as is paragragh two of this post.

Your Refund Amount:
$5,548.06

I fuckin paid this shit (in 2005).......does the IRS have their head up their ass?

Mom (barb)......what do I do?

Anyone else have experince with this?

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Kevin_M on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:06pm

on 12/15/06 at 21:00:23, Jonny wrote:

Mom (barb)......what do I do?

Anyone else have experince with this?

She can be a doll with this stuff. Kept me from losing my mind. ;)
I got a notice from them that blew my shorts through the back door.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by AussieBrian on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:06pm

I once got a telephone bill for zero and was threatened the computer would cut me off if I didn't pay it. Eventually sent them a cheque for nothing.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Redd715 on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:07pm

I asume you've kept documentation of all the refunds, tax papers, and tax bils for the last 3 years.

You'll need this...it will be difficult to fight without a lawyer, but thats your ulitmate decision. You know how it goes, unless you pay the price to fight it, you owe...thats American taxes. Crazy ass system, but it works....for the Government.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Jonny on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:16pm

on 12/15/06 at 21:07:32, Redd715 wrote:

I asume you've kept documentation of all the refunds, tax papers, and tax bils for the last 3 years.

Not only do I have ten years of paper work.......I cashed the damn check THEY SENT ME!

It seems like one hand is giving out money and not telling the hand that suppose to get money, and I pay for it.

Cock-suckers!!!!

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Linda_Howell on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:18pm

Jonny

IF you've got all the records you can go in to the IRS with an enrolled agent (CPA, etc) and get this cleared up. You probably won't need an attorney.

(Jim, is a certified tax preparer and that is what he said after I asked him to call you)

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Redd715 on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:21pm

Appears to me that unless there is proof of intent to defraud, you got your ass covered.

Don't let go of any records...

It'll be your saving grace in the end.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Jonny on Dec 15^th, 2006, 9:33pm

I have always had everything covered when it comes to taxes.....Im no jackass. I aint fucking with the big bitch!

But, why would I get a return if they think I owe?

If even ONE bid is takin on my house I will sue the FUCK out of somebody.....you can take that to the bank!!!!!

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Dec 15^th, 2006, 10:48pm

Are you talking 4th quarter estimated business income taxes or are you talkng 4th quarter 941 tax from your payroll?

They sent you a check based on your tax return, and you tax return says you paid the 4th quarter. Now they just cant find the payment, so you have to prove it to them. You probably have cancelled checks, right? Or you probably kept a copy of that little coupon thingy you fill out when you pay the estimated taxes?

If you are talking payroll tax and have a service like ADP do it for you, they should take care of it pretty quick.

What sounds like happened is your tax payment check got credited to the wrong entity. Shouldnt be a big deal to clear it up.

B$

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by georgej on Dec 16^th, 2006, 12:29am

on 12/15/06 at 21:33:59, Jonny wrote:

If even ONE bid is takin on my house I will sue the FUCK out of somebody.....you can take that to the bank!!!!!

Sounds like you got the "notice and demand" letter, the second step after a "notice of deficiency" is issued. It's computer-generated. Untouched by human hands. No human being has even looked at your account yet.

In that letter, they always tell you the nasty stuff they can do. And they can, if a situation goes unresolved for too long. But it isn't going to happen tomorrow.

It doesn't sound as if the IRS has filed a lien, which is the next step they would take. (You'd know it if they had.) After that, they can (in the fullness of time) attach bank accounts, seize property, etc. I don't know if they'd even file one for five grand anymore. You're a long, long way from losing your house and your bank accounts.
As Linda said, go in to see them with an enrolled agent, along with your documentation. You could probably take care of it yourself, for that matter. It should be cleared up quite easily.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by cootie on Dec 16^th, 2006, 12:30am

Man that has to be the ultimate CRAP to go thru.......so sorry ya gotta got it goin on ! I am probly of NO help here (the usual) but there has been alot of stuff on the news here on the local stations bout the IRS sending people refunds that weren't correct for sum reason and now there tryin to get it back ? This may not have anything to do with you.......if so....sorry.....I wasn't payin attention totally to the news article cuz IRS stuff confuses me easily. Taxacoot Pam

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Charlie on Dec 16^th, 2006, 1:42am

Quote:

does the IRS have their head up their ass?

Untouched by human hands. I hate the brave new world.

Pay attention to all the advice Jonny.

Not to worry about people bidding Jonny. I've been threatened all year long becasue I'm paying my property taxes in increments. They don't like it that I know I can do it.

Charle.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by georgej on Dec 16^th, 2006, 1:54am

Just an aside to anyone who might get a letter from the IRS with an actual contact name on it. If it's from an "auditor" or a "revenue agent", get your tax professional or accountant involved. If it's from a "special agent", get a lawyer.

Best,

George

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by BarbaraD on Dec 16^th, 2006, 3:18am

Jonny,

Check your PMs.

And remember - the IRS doesn't get in a hurry for anything. So PATIENCE my son PATIENCE.

Not running anyone down, but lawyers are usually useless in situations with the IRS. A tax accountant is your best bet to represent you. Most people think it's just a simple error and they can handle it and end up saying too much. The Tax Accountant on the other hand knows it's adversarial and knows not to tell them anything they don't ask about and not much at that. We also know how to play their little games.

But if you do hire a tax accountant to represent you -- do NOT talk to the IRS after that -- refer everything to him/her.

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Jonny on Dec 16^th, 2006, 11:41am

Thanks folks, lots of good advice here and in PM's.

Thank you! :-*

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by BobG on Dec 16^th, 2006, 11:52am

Take away your house?
Talk to a lawyer about putting everything in a trust. Do you have your home homesteaded? Look into that too.

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by Jonny on Dec 16^th, 2006, 12:20pm

Yeah, I have homestead, but I dont think that can stop the IRS.

I feel better now that some folks who know about these things have calmed me down....LOL ;;D

Title: Re: Bend me over.....WTF?
Post by BarbaraD on Dec 16^th, 2006, 7:02pm

Well stay calm and even after it's settled you'll probably hear from them again in a few years -- some idiot will have pushed the wrong button or something and somebody else will LOOK INTO IT! Geezz those guys need to get some organization to their rip off scheme.