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Title: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:09pm why parents would buy $200 Ipods or $500 PS2's for their kids? Is everybody that rich?.......Im not. Are you? |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by kissmyglass on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:11pm nope. Th kids these days are entitled to all that shit, didnt you know that? |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Woobie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:20pm Hell, the PS3s are more expensive than that! And HELL NO I aint spending that kind of money ... I dont HAVE that kind of money. My kids are getting fuzzy slippers for Christmas. [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:21pm It beats me. Last week in the airport, I couldnt believe how many young teenagers had their own Apple laptops. Those things are like $2k. WTF does a kid need a $2000 toy for? B$ |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:24pm on 11/22/06 at 23:21:13, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Bingo!!! Im in favor of the fluffy slippers for them ;) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BlueMeanie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:26pm Your just jealous cuz all you had was an 8 track player. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:36pm on 11/22/06 at 23:26:09, BlueMeanie wrote:
I know your joking, Bro and I apprciate that. But, when I was ten years old I would not have had any thanksgiving if it was not for the church and their basket of food for many years. My old man did many years in jail and the only one that helped us was this one church. Not trying to bring anyone down, just trying to understand where all this money is coming from. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by minnie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:41pm no certainly not rich enough for that.wouldn't buy all that stuff even if I was.The girls are always grateful for what they get I am very lucky.No tv in their bedrooms either.we watch tv as a family or not at all.I'm not saying they wouldn't take all those fancy gifts if offered they are typical kids.I offer better alternatives that I can control a little bit.the video games we have plug right into the tv. some old atari games and sponge Bob,disney those types of games.$20.dollars apiece the kids love them and no violance or bad language.I plan to stay the course with the girls as they get older.When they go to friends houses I tell the parents please no violent games or movies.Not to worry so far all the parents seem to have the same views I do so alls good.It's all in control and I don't care if "everyone els has them" My rules they will have their own someday when they have heir own families. meany mamma bear Minnie |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:45pm ATTA GIRL MINNIE!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 11:50pm on 11/22/06 at 23:45:08, chewy wrote:
Big Ditto, to that!!!! |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BlueMeanie on Nov 23rd, 2006, 12:05am I know what your saying jonny. I grew up with only a mom and 5 kids. We didn't have a whole lot back then. A single present each is all we really ever expected. One thing to remember is most families nowadays have both parents working and combined incomes easily exceeding 100g's. A couple hundred bucks isn't that much compared to when we grew up. Even though I agree, kids are alot more spoiled today that for sure. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Charlie on Nov 23rd, 2006, 1:07am Beats me Jonny but I have to say that I was a spoiled brat but dad never bought me an expensive toy unless he had more fun with it than I. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by barry_sword on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:24am I know what your saying jonny, I grew up on a farm so toy's were not a option. We do not have children so it is a little unfair to say what we would let them have, but I am from old school and am proud it! ;;D barry-sword |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BarbaraD on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:46am I'm with you Jonny. Kids have entirely too much "junk" these days. Parents feel guilty (at least my kids do) for both working and not having "quality time" (PC) with the kids so the compensate with 'gifts' which the kids don't really appreciate. Caleb is totally happy with a big empty box. I keep trying to tell the kids that, but they just don't listen. He'll play with a box for days (until Granny throws it out) and have a blast. The expensive toys he just destroys (he likes to take things apart to see WHY they work). When I was 5, my parents got me a big doll (Susan) and I had that darn doll until I was grown and married - well actually until my son was born - then I gave her away to a loving home. We got ONE gift for Christmas from Santa and that was it. When I was 11, I got a neat RECORD player (had all three speeds). Had that thing until I was grown also. The point is I REMEMBER the gifts I got and treasured them because we didn't get all that much. Everyone was poor back in the "old" days. Fuzzy slippers are good - warm on cold nights..... Awwwww for the good old days........ Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by The mad viking on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:50am moneywice we was poor and in a way are since i am on disability but if we can talk about the love trough Clusterville i really feel like a billionaire Svenn |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by clusterwife on Nov 23rd, 2006, 9:05am I agree with BarbaraD. My hubby thinks- he/she who dies with the most toys wins. He's a 36 year old kid. He makes Christmas fun, in a kid-kind of way. Johnny needs more toys, maybe you could come check out our rollercoaster in the back yard. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 23rd, 2006, 9:38am on 11/23/06 at 09:05:36, clusterwife wrote:
http://media.skoopy.com/misc/homemadecoaster/ |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by LeLimey on Nov 23rd, 2006, 9:43am Nope, my kids don't get stuff like that either.. quite simply, where does it end? One thing I do do every year is a Christmas Calendar where I plan out twelve months of treats, one per month and write them up. We went Karting one month last year, we went on a day trip to France, tickets to a horse show and so on. It spreads the cost and the fun and its good for all of us. Life is more about experiences than possessions for me and the sooner the lids learn that too the better. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by jimmers on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:03am "Wow Son, Santa brought you a football and basketball! Now get outside and play like all kids are supposed to!" Muscles don't get developed by playing video games ;;D Jimmers |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:04am on 11/23/06 at 09:43:57, LeLimey wrote:
You have my deepest sympathy, Helen. Where will it end? ;) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Jonny on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:08am on 11/23/06 at 10:04:47, brewcrew wrote:
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Paul98 on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:29am Well, if it wer'nt for the fact I was born male, I would not have had a single toy to play with when I was young. [smiley=laugh.gif] I think parents use toys as babysitters. There would be a whole lot less anti-social behavior if parents interacted with kids instead of shoving expensive toyo in front of them. Kids would be a bunch smarter I think, too. With all the gadgets kids get these days; in a year they are outdated and just have to have the next gizmo they see. What a huge waste of money! -P. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:34am I got a rock and a stick |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by catlind on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:45am Some thoughts to ponder: From Warren Buffet: Your state of living does not equal your cost of living. He lives here in Omaha and has lived in the same modest house for 48 years. He has Billions. Another of his quotes is: Give your children enough to do something, but not enough to do nothing. To he whom much is given, much is expected. Money is the very smallest part of wealth. I am wealthy beyond my dreams, and we live paycheck to paycheck like most others. The grass is not greener anywhere else than right here in my house and yard, with my family. I am married to the man of my dreams, I have 3 phenomenal children who are just like every other kid and play "imagination" games in the street with the other kids in my neighborhood. My house is the gathering ground. All the kids play at my house. With broken dollar store guns and twigs from the tree; They play with their basketballs, and footballs, and my yard is the worst looking in the neighborhood and I'm proud of it; all the kids play on it, I take it as a symbol of pride; I do not need to out do the smiths and jones. I have a Christmas open house every year. My home is open to everyone. There is food beyond belief, and an atmosphere of true spirit of giving and love. I can't 'create' it, it just happens. No gifts are allowed. As a child, open house was held every Christmas eve, and it was very expensive to provide food for an entire small town, because EVERYONE came. One year, my mom stayed up all night sewing so we would have something to unwrap; another, when my brother and I were teens, she told us outright, there's no money for both Christmas open house and gifts, you are both teens, and you both know the meaning of money - which do you want? Gifts on Christmas morning or open house? We both unanimously and without a second thought chose the open house. What are gifts on Christmas morning worth? when you have not had anyone or any love and spirit of Christmas to enjoy them for? My children are spoiled; I admit to that. They get 2 gifts from Santa, and they get about 3 gifts each from us. However I have a split family. I am divorced, and fortunate enough that my ex and his wife and his entire family are close friends with us. So my 2 oldest children get Christmas with us, with their Dad, with 2 sets of grandparents and extended family. If we didn't limit the gifts it would be horribly out of control. My kids are more upset about not being here for the Christmas open house this year than anything they are asking for on their list. I am actually having to hound the 12 and 14 year old to actually make a list of things wanted because the extended family needs ideas. They have about 4 things each that they want. All things they know are too expensive and they won't get, but they listed em anyway. I am 38 years old, and I still believe in Santa Clause. I have seen proof over my years. My father was 58 when he died, and he still believed too. That's because what Santa Clause means to this family, (who is not religious) has nothing to do with the presents under the tree. He is the mystery and magic, the wonder and anticipation, the love and the sharing, toasting those who are no longer with us, providing for those who are not as fortunate; I could go on and on, but you get the idea. Every year, my children choose a child we know some how some way to adopt for Christmas. That child, receives a package from Santa Clause. Not just for him/her, but a package of goodies for their entire family. And not once, not ever, has a name or return address been on the gift. I've never seen the faces or the reactions of our adopted Christmas kids, but I've been one; Santa came to my door one year when my ex had been laid off work 4 weeks before Christmas; We had no money for food let alone gifts. On the 24th, the door bell rang; There was Santa Clause, with 2 boxes; One full of food, one full of brightly wrapped gifts with my children's names on them. To this day I do not know who that person was; He was Santa Clause; So this year, stop and think about the many who are in a state of anxiety beyond belief wondering how they are going to pull a rabbit out of a hat for their kids for Christmas; We have many here on our very own board. This year, instead of giving your kids a big present, ask them if they would like to give a present to someone else, and not have that one - you'll be amazed at the charity of children and how readily they will give a gift away rather than have it themselves. Sorry for the length, I have had some rather profound lessons of late; If I can get just one person to stop and think on a bigger scale, to understand that giving heals the soul, that there is sooooooooo much more out there than one day a year where kids expect expensive toys; then maybe my life has had some meaning after all; One last thought - tell someone you love, that you love them, and make sure you are saying it like it's the last time they'll hear it; You never know just when you won't have that chance again. Life ends, all too soon, and all too unexpectedly; so make sure someone you love knows, without question, that you love them. That's the gift of Christmas; That's cause for giving thanks. Cat |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by chewy on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:49am Quote:
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by roy21302 on Nov 23rd, 2006, 10:55am Jonny, I am with you 100 per cent, kids get too much too easy today and don't appreciate it. The home made rollercoaster looks good though, bet you could build one of those. hope your having a good Thanksgiving Cheers Roy :) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Redd715 on Nov 23rd, 2006, 11:04am I can't afford those things either. The kids have a game cube, and thats good enough. Seeing as they both are now writing for a non-daily piblication with my company, it wouldn't be a bad idea that they have laptops to do their work on, but I can't afford that either. Just the fact that at 14 and 16 years old, they are published staff writers will be a nice blurb on their college applications. Maybe in a year... If after 4 more months this publication keeps growing as it has over the first two issues, I will be getting myself a new computer and give the kids this old one for their use. I have a few things on their lists, to incluse having to get some things Professionally framed, but they read here, so I'm not listing them. lol. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by LeLimey on Nov 23rd, 2006, 12:21pm ROTFL at you lot thinking going to France is expensive! Its a pound - less than two dollars per head to go over on the ferry. I couldn't take my kids to the cinema as cheaply as we can go on a day out to France! They love it, we see "Sammy the Seagull" every time and you know what? He remembers them from year to year too ::) They love waving goodbye to the white cliffs and waving hello on the way home too. They get to practise their bonjours and comment cava's and mummy gets to practise umm.. slightly more advanced french! Its a family day out though, just the four of us or 7 if my friend and her two boys come too and its fun. Simple fun. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by LeLimey on Nov 23rd, 2006, 12:31pm on 11/23/06 at 10:29:38, Paul98 wrote:
Explains how you got so good at looking for stuff.... |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by cosmicfunkfather on Nov 23rd, 2006, 8:22pm my mom and dad never waited in front of toys R us at 4: 00 am to get me the G.I. joe action figure with kung fu grip!!!!! CFF |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 23rd, 2006, 8:41pm on 11/23/06 at 12:21:38, LeLimey wrote:
That wasn't the point, my dearest Helen. The point is....it's France. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by psycofemale0403 on Nov 23rd, 2006, 11:07pm I think it's more like a . .... here ... I bought you this.. now leave me alone kind of thing. GOD for bid if this rich a$$holes actually spent time with their kids... But.. look how much the ps3s are goin for on ebay! HOLY SHIT! If i would have know that, I would have been one of the dumb asses standing in line buying one too! ~ Lisa |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 23rd, 2006, 11:36pm Okay, not everything is as it seems. We bought our son an iPod for Christmas last year. He's a musician. I'm a musician. He is working to become a regular player in a band and needs tools to help him learn tunes. This was not a "here, kid, now get out of my face" gift. He uses it all the time to become a better musician. And it also is a small part of the musical tradition that links us together. He also roadies and does lights and sound for every one of my gigs - it's kind of like a guys' night out for us. Enough of the horseshit about feeling guilty or not spending enough time with your kids. Bah-fuckin'-humbug. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by psycofemale0403 on Nov 24th, 2006, 12:15am I don't mean everyone! Some kids really do deserve them, like yours! :) No ba humbumg! Merry Christmas! I can't believe it's almost here........... |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BobG on Nov 24th, 2006, 1:26pm on 11/23/06 at 10:34:18, vietvet2tours wrote:
You lucky fart. All I got was a stick, no rock. And it was a hand-me-down from my big brother. Every year dad would get my brother a new stick and I got his old one. And I passed mine down to my little brother. The year I grew as big as my brother I used the hand-me-down stick to beat him and took his new stick. ::) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by JeffB on Nov 24th, 2006, 1:52pm Brew, should appreciate this one. One year I got a drum set for Christmas.....but no cymbols. I had to wait seven months for those. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by LadyElaine1 on Nov 24th, 2006, 2:08pm I can tell you this, its wrong to buy so much. My girls were raised my Buddy and I we did not have a lot of money, they got a couple of things they wanted and a couple of what they needed like cloths. My son was raised my my Mother she bought him everything he wanted and everything he needed. I gave my girls chores my Mother never made my son do anything. My daughters work and they work hard now as adults and they have fun at it. My son he thinks the world oues him. He won't work, bums off of my Mom and he doesn't appreciate anything. My girls are Thankful for anything. It does make a difference what we give and do for these kids, kids can be given to much. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 24th, 2006, 2:58pm on 11/24/06 at 14:08:41, LadyElaine1 wrote:
So, we were wrong to spend $200 on our 14-yr-old? He's our only one and we can afford it. Is this a ticket to prison for him? Where is the line? $150? $100? $50? I want to know exactly where that line is between appreciative and spoiled. It was the only Christmas gift he got last year and he still uses it a lot. I also spent $400 last year on a brand new Fender bass guitar for his birthday. If you aspire to play professionally, you have to have good gear, and he is developing into quite the bass player. I fail to see how our gifts to him are in any way inappropriate. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by JeffB on Nov 24th, 2006, 3:10pm Nothing wrong with spending on your kids. I try and get my daughter whatever she wants as long as she appreciates it. She's a straight A student and has been for years so I see nothing wrong with spoiling her when I can. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by jimmers on Nov 24th, 2006, 3:57pm I bought my 7 year old Son a brand new 16 ft. walleye boat last year! He's to young to use it so I'll use it until he turns 18 and can run it himself ;;D You should see the new rifle that my Wife got last year. I'll have to give it up when she decides she wants to start hunting :D Jimmers |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by BobG on Nov 24th, 2006, 5:30pm I agree with brewcrew. Where do you draw the line. $25 for grown kids? $50? $100 for each grandchild? What if you have 6 grandkids? Divide a hundred between them all or a hundred each? I haven't checked the account statement but I'll bet my wife has already spent two grand for 2 adult children and 6 grandchildren. And, as I type this, my wife and daughter are shopping and spendling even more. Do I care? Nope! She knows more about our budget (or lack of one) than I do. But, that said, 600 bucks for a Play Station 3? Ain't never going to happen. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by Bethany1 on Nov 24th, 2006, 7:15pm Ya know what I hate? When I ask my sister-in-law what my neices and nephews need or want for Christmas and she tells me "nothing, they have everything, just get them gift certificates"... ya ok. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by UN solved on Nov 24th, 2006, 10:11pm My kid wants a PS3 too! He knows he's not gonna get one either. ::) He's just a kid though - can you blame him for wanting one? I want a Lamborghini while were at it ! :) UNsolved Besides, If I were a bazillianaire, I'd spend it all trying to find a cure for clusters! 8) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by CynthiaB on Nov 25th, 2006, 10:16am Brew, You know the answer to your question or you wouldn't bother to ask it. We all know broke not a very nice persons and rich people with character. So don't feel guilty buying your kid things you can AFFORD to buy. I took my 16 yr old to Ireland for 12 days this summer. Just the 2 of us. We aren't rich, but I didn't have to miss 3 house notes to take a vacation, either. It was worth every damn euro. Enjoy your kids now, before they marry people that don't like you. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by nani on Nov 25th, 2006, 10:34am I once heard a wise person say "When you do something for your child because you want to, it's not spoiling them. When you only do it because they want it...it's spoiling them" Wise words, I think. |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by chewy on Nov 25th, 2006, 10:55am If piles of monkee poo were marketed as the hottest thing out there then every kid would want a pile of monkee poo. Take em to Vegas ! Start them early! (But not while Im there OK ?) |
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 25th, 2006, 3:25pm on 11/25/06 at 10:16:27, CynthiaB wrote:
That was my point exactly. No guilt here. Quote:
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Title: Re: Can someone tell me..... Post by brewcrew on Nov 25th, 2006, 3:27pm on 11/25/06 at 10:34:45, nani wrote:
Very wise words from a very wise-man, I think. ;) |
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