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Title: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 5:43pm Plymouth, Mass....where it all started ;;D Went down to the water front today and took some pics for you folks. I dunno, maybe you have kids that would like to see these. The Mayflower 2 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d5aa87700000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d4ea86300000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d14a83900000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 The Rock http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d25293800000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d4d295000000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d37292a00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d0ca82100000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 Gov. Bradford http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d21293c00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d28a80500000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 Some Indian Dude http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d38a81500000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 I would have took more, but I left my jacket in my truck and I was freezing.....LOL ;;D Edit to add: Happy Thanksgiving....Duh!...LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by eddie on Nov 21st, 2006, 5:46pm cool |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by kissmyglass on Nov 21st, 2006, 5:53pm Very Cool! |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Kevin_M on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:01pm Thanks for the giving from Plymouth (with Rock 8), Jonny. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:10pm No prob, Bro, just thought some folks from other countries would get a kick out of them. Its actually pretty boring to me because I see the damn things everyday.....LOL Why are those people starring at a rock?.....LMAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Racer1_NC on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:13pm Thanks Bro.....great pics. Bill |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BarbaraD on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:20pm Great pictures Jonny. Brings back the real meaning of Thansgiving doesn't it. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by LeLimey on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:26pm My kids will love to see them Jonny, my grandma was from there so they like hearing about Boston. Jasper won't be too impressed though - no tattoos! ::) Thank you, that was a lovely thought :-* |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by chewy on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:28pm Plimouth Plantation An historical working replica. http://www.galenfrysinger.com/plimouth_plantation_mass.htm |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BobG on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:40pm One of these days soon, I hope, Renon and I will be back to visit Boston. A half day there was not nearly enough. So much to see and the people are great. Thanks for the pics Jonny. :D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by chewy on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:45pm A good day in Boston http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/47b6d723b3127cce8c88a555667e0000001.jpg? |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:45pm Very cool. I will be sure to show them to my In-laws.This one ought to get their attention. http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf00b3127cce8f379d38a81500000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by tanner on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:47pm Very cool stuff Jonny and Chewy :) I have to make it up that way for pleasure sometime. The only time I have been to Boston or the surrounding areas was on Biz trips and I couldn,t wait to leave. The drivers up there are nuts and the streets are laid out purposly to confound the mid western visitors ( which I was at the time) ;;D Oh yeah and the Celtics were playing that night and it was a madhouse!!! ...Tim |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by chewy on Nov 21st, 2006, 7:54pm Quote:
There is a very simple rule to follow if you wish to drive in Boston and survive. "The other guy dont matter, step on it" |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 8:01pm on 11/21/06 at 19:54:51, chewy wrote:
Rule #2 The guy with the shittiest car ALWAYS wins ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Charlie on Nov 21st, 2006, 8:09pm Nice Jonny. It looks great. Got transparency of my mother standing on the deck.....no.....not one of the Pilgrims. They had tours of the Mayflower II in the sixties. Hope they still do. Happy Thanks Jonny....the rest of ya tooth. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BB on Nov 21st, 2006, 8:58pm Thanks Jonny, great pictures. I would have been one of those people staring at the rock asking myself " WTH is so special about this rock ? " :P Annette |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Kevin_M on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:13pm on 11/21/06 at 19:28:58, chewy wrote:
Great pics on that site Chew, the Indian site too. I got to wondering who that Indian statue was in Jonny's pics, just quickly found this, could be maybe: The Wamanoag's sachem, Massasoit welcomed the first English settlers at Plymouth and participated in the first Thanksgiving in 1621. http://www.downtownio.com/history.htm I wonder if Massachusettes took its name from him. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:27pm on 11/21/06 at 21:13:20, Kevin_M wrote:
Squanto....this was pointed out to me in PM by someone 2500 miles away. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:33pm Wow, those are some cool pics. I want a Mayflower. B$ |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Kevin_M on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:41pm on 11/21/06 at 21:27:35, Jonny wrote:
Not sure about that Jonny. Massasoit Statue: A historic bronze statue by Cyrus Dallin(1861-1944) stands near the Sarcophagus near Plymouth Rock. Massasoit, the chief of the Wampanoag Indians, befriended the Pilgrims and helped them to survive their first winter in Plymouth. The Wampanoags survive today in the Mashpee area on Cape Cod. http://www.plymouthguide.com/places.html No picture but is that where it's at? You're just gonna have to go find out for us now. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:46pm It could be, Kev....but as I told the PM dude.....I had to zoom in to get the pic (Up hill) and I was not climbing the hill to ask his name......LOL ;;D Ill have an answer tomorrow ;) |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Kevin_M on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:51pm Unless they are both the same guy, one an Indian name and the other an English name. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by AussieBrian on Nov 21st, 2006, 9:52pm I just worry about Mayflower 2 and Chewy being in the same town. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 21st, 2006, 10:01pm on 11/21/06 at 21:52:36, AussieBrian wrote:
Now that is the funniest thing Ive heard all year.......LMMFAO!!!!!!!!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by chewy on Nov 21st, 2006, 10:05pm Thanks Giving at the Plimouth Plantation is being featrued right now on the Travel Channel. Quote:
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BB on Nov 21st, 2006, 10:13pm Learnt something new http://www.thanksgiving.org/2us.html Extracted from above The Pilgrims' First Harvest Feast According to historical sources, the Pilgrims never held an autumnal Thanksgiving feast. The Pilgrims did have a feast in 1621 near Plymouth, Massachusetts, after their first harvest. This is the feast people often refer to as "The First Thanksgiving." This feast was never repeated, so it can't be called the start of a tradition, nor did the colonists or Pilgrims call it a Thanksgiving Feast. In fact, to these devoutly religious people, a day of thanksgiving was a day of prayer and fasting. Nevertheless, the 1621 feast has become a model for the Thanksgiving celebration in the United States. More than likely, this first harvest feast was eaten outside, based on the fact that the colonists didn't have a building large enough to accommodate all the people who came. Native Americans definitely were among the invited guests, and it's possible, even probable, that turkey (roasted but not stuffed) and pumpkin in some form found their way to the table. The feast is described in a firsthand account presumably written by a leader of the colony, Edward Winslow, as it appears in Mourt's Relation: "Our harvest being gotten in, our governor sent four men on fowling, that so we might after a special manner rejoice together after we had gathered the fruit of our labors. They four in one day killed as much fowl as, with a little help beside, served the company almost a week. At which time, amongst other recreations, we exercised our arms, many of the Indians coming amongst us, and among the rest their greatest King Massasoit, with some ninety men, whom for three days we entertained and feasted, and they went out and killed five deer, which they brought to the plantation and bestowed on our governor, and upon the captain and others. And although it be not always so plentiful as it was this time with us, yet by the goodness of God, we are so far from want that we often wish you partakers of our plenty." From this we know that the feast went on for three days, included 90 "Indians," as Native Americans were called then, and had plentiful food. In addition to the venison provided by the Native Americans, there was enough wild fowl to supply the village for a week. The fowl included ducks, geese, turkeys and even swans |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by BB on Nov 21st, 2006, 10:15pm Cont ... Timeline of American Thanksgiving Holiday 1541 During Coronado's expedition a Eucharistic thanksgiving, with the friendly Teya Indians present, occurred in Palo Duro Canyon in West Texas. 1621 Pilgrims and Native Americans enjoyed a harvest feast in Plymouth, Massachusetts. This feast may have become the model for today's American celebration. 1630 Settlers and colonists from many continents brought customs of days of prayer and thanksgiving, especially in New England, where the first Thanksgiving of the Massachusetts Bay Colony was observed on July 8, 1630. 1777 The first Thanksgiving of the new United States of America occurred in 1777 when General George Washington and his army, as instructed by the Continental Congress, stopped in bitter weather in the open fields on their way to Valley Forge to mark the occasion. 1789 Washington's first proclamation after his inauguration as the nation's first president in 1789 declared November 26, 1789, as a national day of "thanksgiving and prayer." 1800s The annual presidential thanksgiving proclamations ceased for 45 years in the early 1800s. 1863 President Abraham Lincoln resumed the tradition in 1863. November 26, 1941 President Roosevelt signed the bill establishing the fourth Thursday in November as Thanksgiving Day. Because two years out of every seven have five Thursdays in November, some states for the next 15 years celebrated on their own on the last Thursday. Since 1956, the fourth Thursday in November has been observed by every state. Annette |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Mrs Deej on Nov 21st, 2006, 11:21pm on 11/21/06 at 21:27:35, Jonny wrote:
LMAO!!! Conner dressed up as Squanto today for Kindergarten...I was like..."who?" ...felt really dumb...He said "Mommy, he was the Indian that helped the Pilgrims kill dear!" Then the discussion went into "why did they kill the dear?" Damn it!!!!!!! [smiley=ohjez.gif] SHIT!!! :o Looks like mom needs a refresher...it's only been a few years!! GREAT pics Jonny...I'm impressed... :P Hope to make it up that way real soon! Love, Steph |
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Title: Re: Americas home town! Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:04pm KevinM, you were right, Bro. http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9abf814f00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9ab9814900000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 Seeing that I put my coat on and climbed the hill, I decided to take a few random pics. http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9aa4006400000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9aa2006200000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9aa6006600000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9aaa006a00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9e1000d200000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9e1181e300000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9e1c00de00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 Hey Chewy, I hope your turkey has a nasty case of the bird flu.....LMAO!!!!!!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Charlie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:11pm Do they still let people aboard the Mayflower II Jonny? Got a pic of my mom on deck. It was pretty new when we were there. Naturally, we had lots of fun with this... http://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/he_and_she/parting2.gif?SSImageQuality=Full Charlie |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by JeffB on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:14pm Very nice, Jonny! It must be pretty cool living near all that history! If Chewy only knew that his meal was prepared by little old ladies in a nursing home under the threat of violence and torture. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:15pm on 11/22/06 at 16:11:30, Charlie wrote:
They sure do, Charlie.....they will never give up that money maker....LOL Soon they will move the ship to a cove down south somewhere to protect it from the weather, they do it every year. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Charlie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:24pm Quote:
Thanks for that Jonny. Money or not, my faith is restored. http://subscribe.smileygenerator.us/new/albums//thanksgivingpilgrim7lq.gif?SSImageQuality=Full Charlie |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by eddie on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:28pm nice pics jonny ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Kevin_M on Nov 22nd, 2006, 4:44pm Really great extra pics Jonny, thanks again for going the extra mile for more. The other statues are fanstastic. Thomson Phillips house has names in the notice that I've ran across before, Dyer and Cotton. Squanto was a very cool guy too, many of the Pilgrims died prior to meeting him that first winter. on 11/21/06 at 23:21:12, Mrs Deej wrote:
Little Conner buddy is right. At first the Pilgrims could make no contact with the local Indians, the Native Americans has previously suffered from earlier contact with whites and so avoided the Pilgrims until one came to their settlement at Plymouth at the end of the first winter that surprisingly had a considerable command of understandable English. His name was Tisquantum, which the Pilgrims couldn't pronounce so William Bradford ( the other statue in Jonny's pics) renamed him Squanto, as the Pilgrims pronounced it. Squanto (sort of kidnapped) visited England years earlier to learn the white person's ways but quickly returned to his own people upon return. He first introduced the Pilgrims to the local chief and then became their mentor and taught them how to plant corn, survive the winter, where to take fish, and guided them to unknown places. Most important, he acted as their agent in what became their economic salvation, the trade in beaver and otter furs, staying with them until about 1653.* ** *from a favorite book 973. P ** in a different account it was Massasoit who stayed with the Pilgrims until then, with Squanto dying from fever in 1622. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 5:18pm Quote:
Everyone except Jonny. Last time he boarded he created a scene after they told him he couldn't tour the "engine room". |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 5:46pm on 11/22/06 at 17:18:33, chewy wrote:
LOL....The only reason that statement is funny is because it does have an engine.....do you really think they sail it down south?.....LMAO ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by LeLimey on Nov 22nd, 2006, 5:47pm Sheesh Jonny.. You don't expect Chewy to know Jack about a boat REALLY do you?! ::) I loved all the pics, it looks beautiful there. One day :) |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 5:55pm Quote:
I hope its only one. Any more and there will be another revolution. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:06pm Then who the fock was Squanto? |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:09pm on 11/22/06 at 18:06:01, vietvet2tours wrote:
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Kevin_M on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:15pm on 11/22/06 at 18:06:01, vietvet2tours wrote:
This site has info on everything to do with Plymouth, scroll down for Massasoit and Squanto. http://www.kidinfo.com/American_History/Colonization_Plymouth.html I've only caught a sentence here and there about him in several books. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by sailpappy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:16pm ;;D ;;D From one Turkey to another! Nice Pictures Bro!! and Don I didn't recognize you without Mildred?? Pappy |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:31pm on 11/22/06 at 18:16:52, sailpappy wrote:
Gobble gobble ;;D Happy Thanksgiving, Pappy!! |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:33pm Its still me PAP! Mildred: The Sequel AKA: Typhoon Tucker http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/020_17A.jpg?t=1164238284 |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by LeLimey on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:33pm on 11/22/06 at 17:55:36, chewy wrote:
Oh Cheweeeeeee.... http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6cf03b3127cce8f3d9aaf815f00000016108AZM2bNk5bM6 live and learn my little sausage! ;;D (translates as eat shit and die dicksplat :P ) |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:35pm You had to do it didn't you Jonny. You just had to go and fuckin do it! |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by LeLimey on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:39pm ;;D ;;D ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:43pm on 11/22/06 at 18:35:18, chewy wrote:
Whoa!, I sent that to her yesterday thinking she might like it. If she decides to pull out her ace in the hole it has nothing to do with me....LOL ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:43pm A fitiing tribute to those English women who were smart enough to leave England. Then there are the other ones. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by LeLimey on Nov 22nd, 2006, 6:50pm Awwww Cheweeee I'm touched. Youre inviting me to come and live with you? Even though I'm not inflatable?! ::) I'll bring flowery curtains and frilly tea towels and we'll soon have that old dump looking grgeous! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:01pm Aw geeeeze! Well. Alright. We can visit the USS Constitution and Bunker Hill. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by LeLimey on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:05pm While we're on the subject of "Girl Power" though its not a new thing. Betcha didn't know THAT did you Chewee? Oh noooo ladies have always been betterer honeybun! Quote:
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:14pm Quote:
Well no shit! Somebody had to clean the damn thing. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:22pm on 11/22/06 at 19:14:13, chewy wrote:
Well Duuuhhhh! Someone had to do it and the "boys" were too busy getting lost 'cause we all know they won't stop and ask for directions. It's actually the reason boy babies don't usually arrive on their due dates! Poor little buggers are lost and just keep on goin' in circles trying to find the right route! ;;D Jonny - great pics buddy. I sooooo want to visit Boston. Maybe one day and perhaps one of you would offer to show me around town! ;) |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:24pm C'mon down Carol. We'll go boating. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Nov 22nd, 2006, 7:25pm on 11/22/06 at 19:24:43, chewy wrote:
Me and 6 lifeguards with 12 life jackets!!! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Jonny on Nov 23rd, 2006, 12:00am Your gonna need more than that, Carol......this guy leaked fule into the river :o |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by roy21302 on Nov 23rd, 2006, 12:01pm Jonny and Chewy, thanks for the great Pictures and the links, you have shown me some thing I would not have otherwise seen. I'll send you a picture of the place that they set sail from, Southampton where I grew up. I will be going soon to Dads. Thanks also for the many laughs in this thread Cheers Roy ;;D |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:14pm I, too thank you for the right-coast pics. That was very awesome, and I loved it. Being on the left-coast has it's disadvantages when it comes to history. Our History is several hundred years behind yours. Gold Rush/Pony Express/Missions... :-/ |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:34pm Boston http://www.galenfrysinger.com/boston.htm Boston Common http://www.galenfrysinger.com/boston_common.htm Faneuil Hall http://www.galenfrysinger.com/faneuil_hall_boston_mass.htm Freedom Trail http://www.galenfrysinger.com/freedom_trail_boston_mass.htm |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by Linda_Howell on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:36pm I love it. Thank you. |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by chewy on Nov 23rd, 2006, 7:48pm USS Constitution http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/bgull2/shipatnight.jpg?t=1164329242 |
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Title: Re: Americas home town!(Updated) Post by BB on Nov 24th, 2006, 12:19am on 11/23/06 at 19:48:56, chewy wrote:
Its absolutely gorgeous Chewy, thank you. Now dont you dare go near it ! I would like it to still be floating next time I come to visit ;;D Annette |
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