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Title: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by rickyshot on Nov 17th, 2006, 9:20am The Park AVe YMCA has birthing classes as do all the Y's. Of course the woman go with their husbands, so or supporter if no man on site. Well some rocket scientist decided to ban men from the classes. Why you ask. Because the Muslims and SikHs and some other religious types object to men in the classes. HELLOOOOOOO Did these women get pregnant by themselves. Look I am sure someone guilt ridden American who thinks we are the bad guys and feeling downright guilty for being born here to the good life will support this fuckery but I am fed up with this shit. When will we stand up for our way of life that our forefathers literally died for. You got religion or culture. Start your own cultural centers with your own rules like previous immigrants did. Where does this sense of entitlement come from. Do you see any boats, planes or rafts in shark infested waters going to these countries. Hell no. They are headed here. HMMMMM I wonder why. CAUSE WE GOT THE BEST LIFE THIS WORLD HAS TO OFFER THATS WHY. If their ways are so great why don't they stay where they are at. I have seen sikhs winning court cases to wear daggers to public school, religious Hasidic Jews complaining that women should cover their heads in their neighborhoods that are not even Jewish and Muslims with a litany of complaints about dress and making legal in our books Shariah law. BULL girl thingy to all of the above. American or Canadian law get it? Don't go to an institution that is government funded as well as private and upset the whole apple cart like the baby classes so you can pick your belly button and bring only your way here. Stay the hell over there with that shit. Of course Canadians are too PC and polite to outcry. Me there I would have taken my husband in there and stormed the bastille. Me I am pro immigration but you come here and it is Canadian law and Canadian way of life and too bad if you don't like it. SWim back over to your wonderful country then. And as far as I am concerned the only big shame America has is slavery. I am not with the guilt of being American and having rights. Flame away. I don't give a flying fuck. BTW I am in a very racially mixed family and proud to be an American where at least I know I am free..... |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Paul98 on Nov 17th, 2006, 9:54am You can thank the apologists for this mentality. They are the same ones that blame the USA for 9/11. A bunch of self flagellating morons that think appeasement of fanatics is a winning strategy. Don't profile...might offend someone Don't use some words...might offend someone Don't display your religion...might offend someone Don't teach cirtian things in college...might offend someone Don't write cirtian ideas...might offend someone They have no hesitation to inflict Americians to something that WE might find offensive though! You want to live/work here...Adapt to OUR ways or stay home...Period. -P. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by nani on Nov 17th, 2006, 9:58am Ricky, can you tell me where you read that? I'm really curious to read the news story on it. Thanks. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by chewy on Nov 17th, 2006, 10:00am Fuck that. All the women should show up with their male partners and refuse to leave. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by rickyshot on Nov 17th, 2006, 10:21am It was on the radio stations yesterday here in Montreal where this is happening. There is a news paper called the Montreal Gazzette which may have an article on it. I did not check the paper out. Check the date of Nov 16 on google and see if it is over there. This shit had me fuming. And before someone calls me a racist think twice honey. I come from an AFrican American, Jewish, American Indian cultures. Furthermore my grandparents emigrated here and worked hard with no welfare and adapted to the country and obeyed the laws. My Jewish anscestors did not insist that public places keep kosher of some woman cover their head . They kept that in their homes, and synagogues and own cultural centers they started. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by chewy on Nov 17th, 2006, 10:54am Quote:
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by LeLimey on Nov 17th, 2006, 11:08am on 11/17/06 at 09:54:33, Paul98 wrote:
If you go to work in Saudi or any other arab state you have to dress to their code and you can't drink alcohol as two examples. I think that's fair enough. If you don't like it - stay home. so WHY is it different when they go overseas? AND.. why do we let it happen? |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by nani on Nov 17th, 2006, 11:21am Sorry, girl, I can't find it anywhere. Is the Y funded by the Canadian government? It's not so here. It relies on member fees, United Way, etc... I'm just having a hard time imagining that the Young Men's Christian Association would change it's policy to appease another religion. I would like to think that if enough class attendees objected to men's presence, they'd just add a woman only class. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by floridian on Nov 17th, 2006, 11:25am on 11/17/06 at 09:20:52, rickyshot wrote:
Like maybe freedom? Or should the government tell a group like the Y how they should run their classes? I personally think it is ridiculuous that they not allow men in a birthing class, but that is their choice. My guess is that couples will avoid those classes and sign up for the ones that are coed. Maybe they will have to drive farther to attend the classes. But I'm not sure that there is a 'right' to have the class the way they want it at the closest Y. I also think that single sex schools are ridiculous. But if some conservative secular or religious organization says they want one, and they set one up, that's their business. You haven't convinced me that the Y is changing their policy for everyone in response to pressure from a small group - only that one class is being offered that appeals to a particular niche. To me that is not a bad thing. -- Is that the same Park Avenue Y that frosted their windows in response to complaints from a synagogue across the street? They didn't want the men and boys visiting for worship to see scantily clad, sweating women? Next thing you know, there will be laws against having strip clubs within 1000 feet of churches or schools. Oh, wait, those laws are already in place in many communities across the US - and they were instituted by Christians. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Mattrf on Nov 17th, 2006, 11:38am I think it is crap as well, I live in northern CA and we have become the minority to the Mexican people here, most of witch are illegally here I might add but god forbid you do or say anything to offend them even though they drive around with Mexican flags across there hoods and flying in there front yards, I am with you if they are so proud of there country what the hell are they doing here? I was watching news this morning and they where talking about a five year old girl that some low life tried to abduct from a school, her 11 year old friend screamed and scared the guy off, so the news crew is interviewing her and she needed an interpreter? She was probably born here and does not speak English well enough to answer a few questions but is going to school here? I see it all the time at my daughters public school the majority of the kids barely speak English but where born here and we are talking about third graders, Arnold had it right when he made the statement about them not integrating into American culture like he did, if you come here first you should do it legally, second you should learn the language and third be proud of being an American but also be proud of your heritage, I think we all are well most of us my wife is French and not to proud of hers for good reason. I just don’t get it, people come here because it is a great country with so many opportunity but as soon as they get here they try and make it into what they left behind, now wasn’t there good reasons for leaving there own country so why the hell would they want this one to become like the one they left? WTF! Oh one more thing I came across a few years ago that I found strange. Now don’t get me wrong if this is what they want fine I don’t really care just imagine if it was reversed at how many people would get pissed and how many would get sewed. Ok so a buddy and I are on vacation in Cozumel Mexico on a scuba diving trip, and there are always crews ships coming in and lots of people on the island, one day we go down town for lunch and the place is packed with black people, and I mean packed more black people then I have ever seen in one place in my life, we thought it was strange and tried to listen to accents to figure out if it was a ship from Africa or something but could not figure it out. A couple days later we are in a bar and meet a couple gals that work on a ship and we told them about it and they said oh yes that is out of New York they do it every year, it seem a group charters the entire ship for all black people, they said they even transfer all non black workers except the captain and a couple others off the ship and have nothing but black people working the crews, so a total black crews, can you imagine if you tried to set up a all white crews? Like I said I don’t care but just could not believe that they could do this when the opposite would never be tolerated. Sorry got off on a rant. And no I am not prejudice at all and never have been, my daughter is dating a black kid right now and he is a good kid and I like him very much and we have always taught our kids that color does not matter, personality and how someone treats you is what we care about. I tell my daughter that I don’t care if the guy is purple, as long as he treats her right and makes her happy then I will be happy. Matt PC my ass |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by kissmyglass on Nov 17th, 2006, 12:07pm on 11/17/06 at 09:20:52, rickyshot wrote:
You have a husband?? UH-OH |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Jonny on Nov 17th, 2006, 4:04pm on 11/17/06 at 12:07:07, kissmyglass wrote:
ROTF.....Fuck that, there are no caps for how hard im laughing right now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Callico_Kid on Nov 17th, 2006, 6:28pm Stalin was right. He said that if left alone we would defeat ourselves. When my great-grandfather came to this country he had to homestead in IL because when he came off the boat signs all over the east coast said "No dogs or Irish allowed." He had to go all the way to IL to get away from the discrimination, but he did not complain for special rights, he just built a farm and raised a great family. I have Mexican neighbors on all four sides in my town. They are great folks who came here for an opportunity, LEGALLY, and who raise good kids. They are proud of their heritage, but are AMERICANS! However, many of the others in town are not, and the schools and hospitals are over run with them. Our high school is now 62% Mexican of which at least 25% of the entire population is KNOWN to be illegal, but we cannot get them out. PC I am not!!! jc |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by rickyshot on Nov 17th, 2006, 8:13pm [quote author=Mattrf link=board=general;num=1163773252;start=0#9 date=11/17/06 at 11:38:52]Ok so a buddy and I are on vacation in Cozumel Mexico on a scuba diving trip, and there are always crews ships coming in and lots of people on the island, one day we go down town for lunch and the place is packed with black people, and I mean packed more black people then I have ever seen in one place in my life, Buddy You are not in the right neighborhood. I don't mind specialized classes geared to groups but not at the cost at the population at large. What burns me about this one is that no other birthing classes are offered coed which of course a birthing class should be. Did the women get pregnant by themselves? NO they took the mainstream course out to kowtow to a minority who flees a country to escape the crap they are starting here. Does that make sense? And yes that is the same Y across from the synagogue. I was not with the Hasidic Jews position either. You don't like to see the women dress a certain way. Stay your ass in the house. You can't impose a minority religion to the secular public. You have the right to worship and practice it in peace. That is the liberty. If you need to set up a special place because you are offeneded by public practice then set up your own damn place don't change the publics. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Paul98 on Nov 17th, 2006, 8:19pm on 11/17/06 at 20:13:21, rickyshot wrote:
Eloquently put!!! -P. |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by BarbaraD on Nov 18th, 2006, 4:47am Maybe what's happening in small (and some large) towns around the country is the right way to handle it. The city councils are passing ordinances that ENGLISH is the official language and quit writing up everything in English and Spanish. Maybe this all needs to start on the LOCAL level and work it's way up to DC. Schools need to quit teaching in several languages. Let the kids learn a SECOND language for America. But I agree, it's gotten totally out of hand. I have clients from a lot of different countries and treat them all equally (I have a zap gun in my desk drawer that works for ALL). They speak English to me and we all get along fine. I'm just too old to keep up with the latest PC crap. And what's the POINT of a birthing class without the guys there? Isn't it to teach the dad's what to do? (They didn't have them back in MY day - we just went to the hospital and had the kid - and called Dad all kinds of names while we were birthing!) The American people said on Nov 7th that we wanted a change - now let's see if we get it. My letters to congress are in the mail - how 'bout yours? Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by pubgirl on Nov 18th, 2006, 7:32am I've got a good (and true!) story about our "birthing classes". We had to go round the room at the first meeting and "introduce ourselves". After most had done the "I'm X and I work in X and I am very excited about our baby" etc, one husband- (who patently didn't want to be there) stood up and said: "I'm, Peter, and I'm an alcoholic, and I think I'm in the wrong meeting" and walked out. I pissed myself laughing! But he never came back. W |
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Title: Re: RANT Fed up with all this PC Mess Post by Charlie on Nov 18th, 2006, 4:44pm PC sucks up too much time as well. I'm with what the Dutch did banning wearing Birkas the other day. When in Rome........ Charlie |
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