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(Message started by: Bob P on Oct 31st, 2006, 5:59pm)
Title: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Oct 31st, 2006, 5:59pm
The swifties should have fragged him while he was struting around the Nam!

"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq," he said.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:04pm
He looked like an even bigger dick-head trying to explain that quote....LOL ;;D
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:08pm
Lurch has a website  ;)

http://www.liveshot.cc/
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:10pm
Is he hinting at a draft or just being a penis leech?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Gator on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:12pm
Nothing new here.  Kerry has been talking shit against the US Military since he returned from Vietnam.

I wonder if he even realizes that in today's military, all officers and a lot of enlisted have four year (or higher) degrees?  

What an idiot.  How did he ever get elected to anything higher than dog catcher?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Sandy_C on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:17pm

on 10/31/06 at 17:59:17, Bob P wrote:
"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq," he said.


Kerry said this, which in my opinion is a slam against any military service personnel serving our country in a war zone right now.  He is basically saying, all of them were too dumb in school, so they deserve being where they are.

What a crock of s**t.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:20pm
Conservatives love Kerry.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:41pm
I've got a buddy who calls him the Republican's November surprise!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by echo on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:46pm
I wouldn't piss on that bastard if he was on fire.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by fubar on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:48pm
God Bless Kerry!  He serves to remind us that if you don't study hard and go to school, you might just end up a Democrat!  :P
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:49pm
he'd piss on you even if you weren't.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by echo on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:51pm

on 10/31/06 at 18:49:04, maffumatt wrote:
he'd piss on you even if you weren't.


Nicely put!

You're right -- he just whizzed all over our military.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Oct 31st, 2006, 6:58pm
We were switching cars today and I picked up Jon in the truck , he had served two tours in Iraq and is in the reserves now. I asked him if he had heard Kerr's comments. He said no, but Kerry stood behind the veterans. At that exact moment the radio played his comments. You should have seen his face. For those of you that don't support the war, thats fine, but you should have seen Jons face. Kerry should be ashamed.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by chewy on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:02pm

Quote:
How did he ever get elected to anything higher than dog catcher?


$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thats how.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by tanner on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:03pm


What do you expect from a traitor that was never charged with treason?

Piece of Sh#t

..........Tim
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by kcopelin on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:06pm
I am speechless.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by lashultz on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:15pm
I believe he was talking about the most worthless president in my lifetime as being the under educated. And we are stuck in the most worthless war since Vietnam.



                          Lee
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:25pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:15:03, lashultz wrote:
I believe he was talking about the most worthless president in my lifetime as being the under educated. And we are stuck in the most worthless war since Vietnam.


Then you are one of very, very few ;;D

Heres what we think in Boston.

The White House accused Sen. John Kerry on Tuesday of troop-bashing, seizing on a comment the Democrat made to California students that those unable to navigate the country's education system "get stuck in Iraq." Kerry said his remark was about the administration and not about the troops.

Who did you first think John Kerry was refering to ..........      soldiers in Iraq      94% .............
     George Bush      6%]
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:26pm
Nam and Iraq are only as worthless as the spineless ones make them!  The whiney pantywaists have forgotten how to back our country and win a war!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Tata on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:33pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:15:03, lashultz wrote:
I believe he was talking about the most worthless president in my lifetime as being the under educated. And we are stuck in the most worthless war since Vietnam


      Don't drink the Kool-Aid
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:44pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:26:17, Bob P wrote:
Nam and Iraq are only as worthless as the spineless ones make them!  You whiney pantywaists have forgotten how to back your country and win a war!



Well said.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:45pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:33:58, Tata wrote:
      Don't drink the Kool-Aid


What's in the Kool Aid?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Oct 31st, 2006, 7:59pm
Can't beat the Iraqis, can't catch Osama, having a hard time in Afghanistan, but the master strategist Bush can beat the Democrats - because politics is about slogans instead of results.  You're doing a heck of a job, Bushie!

Funny how the Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America  (http://iava.org/) rated the Senators,  depending on whether they supported things like pay-raises for the troops,  and it came out like this:

http://www.med-owl.com/images/ratings.gif


From the IAVA website: "To calculate the Ratings, IAVA reviewed all legislation voted on in the Congress since September 11, 2001. For each piece of legislation that affected troops, veterans or military families, IAVA took a position either in support of, or in opposition to its passage.  The letter grades were derived, using the scales below, from the percentage of times that each legislator's vote matched the official IAVA stance.

A total of 169 House votes and 155 Senate votes were used to determine the ratings. You can view all of this legislation, either in a complete list or grouped by session, by clicking here.

IAVA is a non-partisan, non-profit organization. These ratings were determined using a simple and transparent mathematical formula."

http://capwiz.com/iava/keyvotes.xc/?lvl=C
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:05pm
Get it straight Flo.  The vets didn't do that rating, the people who run IAVA did that rating.

Do you really get led down the primrose path that easily?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:14pm
This thread is about Kerry  ::)

No hijacking, Flo!!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:16pm
Flo, care for some Kool Aid?? ;)
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:25pm
I want some, I want some.......
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Mr. Happy on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:27pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:25:43, Jonny wrote:
Who did you first think John Kerry was refering to ..........      soldiers in Iraq      94% .............      George Bush      6%]

Well damn! I'm a 6%er!
Kerry was making a direct reference to the Admin, and any other interpretation shows a lack of education.

So dere.
Hap
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:58pm

on 10/31/06 at 20:27:01, Mr. Happy wrote:
Well damn! I'm a 6%er!
Kerry was making a direct reference to the Admin, and any other interpretation shows a lack of education.

So dere.
Hap


My guess is that it isn't 6% - probably much closer to the % of Repubs vs Dems.   Sure, 'They' did a survey - and how did they pick a representative sample?

Sorry, Jonny, you can try to define the thread so it is focused only on one topic, but conversations don't work that way ... the Republican splashing about Kerry is about more than Kerry.  It is about a encumbent party that is floundering and desperately looking to activate the hate-and-fear neurons to get their voters out next week.  Kerry can be a clod, but he wasn't attacking veterans any more than Bush is practicing his love with too many ob-gyns across the country.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Callico_Kid on Oct 31st, 2006, 8:59pm

on 10/31/06 at 19:15:03, lashultz wrote:
I believe he was talking about the most worthless president in my lifetime as being the under educated. And we are stuck in the most worthless war since Vietnam.



                          Lee


Very interesting Lee.  John Kerry and George W Bush both graduated from Yale, but Bush's GPA was higher.  Kerry went on to Boston College for law school, a good school, but not one of the top three in the nation.  George Bush went on to an MBA from Harvard.  Who is under educated?

As to the worthlessness of the war in Iraq I would ask where you get the information on which to make that decision?  Is it from the news media that prints the body count at the end of each day as a headline without giving any of the purposes for when these men died, or have you actually sat down and talked with the men and women who have returned from Iraq and Afganistan?  After sitting down with quite a number of our returning vets, several fo them wounded I find the war that I see in the paper and on the TV doesn't even resemble the war they fought.  I know several who have volunteered to return for their third and in a couple of cases their fouth tour because they say we are winning and the job needs to be done.

BTW, the Marine Corps won't even take you if you don't have at least a 3.0GPA and a high school diploma.

Jerry
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Oct 31st, 2006, 9:23pm
Ok, Bush went to what might be called a better school. But would you agree that his alcohol-related brain damage has erased his ability to string together a coherent sentence? And his MBA hasn't stopped him from running several businesses downward, some into the ground, others to be rescued by benevolent Kuwaiti investors making political investments.

Worthlessness of the war?  Lets see - there was a think tank in the 1990s calling for the US to roll through the Middle East and overthrow unfriendly regimes, starting with Iraq. The think tank included Cheney, Wolfowitz, Perle, Rumsfeld, and other architects of the current war. The think tank wrote that it might be difficult to get public support for such a war, but that a 'Pearl-Harbor type' incident (should it happen) would allow such a war to be launched.  When 9-11 happened, the plan to invade Iraq was developed.  Notes taken by White House staffers indicate that Cheney told his people to 'roll up everything - things related and things not.'  They then mislead the people to believe that a) Saddam was linked to 9-11, and b) that they had a real plan to make things better (both of which have turned out to be false).  Our staunchest allies (the Brits) have leaked a series of memos that show that Bush lied when he asked for authority to use the military - the Blair administration knew he was BSing about diplomacy and intended to attack Iraq regardless of what the U.N. processes resulted in.  The Brits also said Bush was interested in disguising a US plane as a UN plane, and sending it in to Iraq to get shot down, which would provide an excuse to invade.  

Then there's the recent National Intelligence Estimate, which said that this bungled war is the best recruiting tool that Al Qaeda has.

Did someone mention Al Qaeda? The ones that really were behind the 9-11 massacre.  The ones we didn't really go after them, because we were holding back military assets for the planned invasion of Iraq.  So when Osama was cornered in the mountains, we didn't have enough troops there. Instead, we sent in friendly Afghans, and Osama slipped away.

The war in Iraq was sold to the American public with a pack of lies. It isn't benefiting our national interests.  Iraq is coming apart at the seams, and it isn't clear that a million troops would win it.  The US ignored every point of the Powell Doctrine, and history kinda repeats itself.  With a few exceptions.  In Vietnam, the government lied to us about a shitty war, and people blamed the troops.  In Iraq, the government lies to us about a shitty war, but no one is blaming the troops - just the Commander in Chief and his band of merry men.



Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Oct 31st, 2006, 9:30pm
Title of the thread is "Kerry"

Night, Flo  :-*
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Fredmyyster on Oct 31st, 2006, 9:32pm
Pretty lame of Kerry to say that...  Aint no damage control gonna help that bastud !
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Oct 31st, 2006, 10:18pm

on 10/31/06 at 21:30:08, Jonny wrote:
Title of the thread is "Kerry"

Night, Flo  :-*


Why - is he running for office?  Is he responsible for the pickle the nation is in?  

G'nite Jonny!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 31st, 2006, 11:52pm
Its obvious what Kerry meant when he said that.  Its the damn right wing media spinning shit out of control again.

Speaking of 'out of control', how is Bush's war going?  
Speaking of 'out of control', the USA is going to borrow almost 1 trillion dollars this year.  Those damn democrats, when are they gonna smarten up?

B$
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Batch on Oct 31st, 2006, 11:59pm
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m236/petebatch/Gramps-2.jpg

Bless my long gray whiskers… but YGBSM!  Them’s fight’n words!  The SOB Kerry needs to apologize to all our armed forces and their families, then be impeached for gross incompetence and failing to honor the oath of office the took…  At this point it doesn’t matter if he intentionally demeaned our fighting forces or just gaffed.  The forensics of his track record speak volumes…  All the way back to Viet Nam where he spent 3 months in the Me Kong Delta then declared himself a hero with lame ass excuses for some purple hearts so he could run out on his fellow Swifties and off Paris to talk with the enemy.

All I can say is keep it up Kerry!  With a week to go until the election, he’s like genital herpes, the gift that keeps on giving…
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Nov 1st, 2006, 12:11am

on 10/31/06 at 23:59:37, Batch wrote:
[
The SOB needs to apologize to all our armed forces and their families, then be impeached for gross incompetence and failing to honor the oath of office the took…  


I hear ya, he needs to be impeached, and we need to elect a president that will kick some terrorist ass rather than run with his tail between his legs to Iraq.  
The USA got hit, and Bush ran to Iraq to get some more money.  How shameful.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by brewcrew on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:06am

on 10/31/06 at 22:18:28, floridian wrote:
Why - is he running for office?  Is he responsible for the pickle the nation is in?  

G'nite Jonny!

Using this logic, every thread should be titled "Bush Sucks, and the Horse He Rode In On."

Now how are we gonna get all these threads re-titled?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:38am
Bush caused my cluster headaches.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Redd715 on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:42am
After this fall, I'm NOT looking forward to the next two years.  I'm the political ad coordinator for our paper, and if this "off year" is any indication what is going to happen in the years to come..... ::)

Did I mention I hate politics? ;;D
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:52am

on 11/01/06 at 08:06:23, brewcrew wrote:
Using this logic, every thread should be titled "Bush Sucks, and the Horse He Rode In On."

Now how are we gonna get all these threads re-titled?


Re-mod software?  301 permanent redirects to pages with the same content but new titles?  Or a simple SQL query?  


Quote:
After sitting down with quite a number of our returning vets, several fo them wounded I find the war that I see in the paper and on the TV doesn't even resemble the war they fought.  I know several who have volunteered to return for their third and in a couple of cases their fouth tour because they say we are winning and the job needs to be done.


I have no doubt that the vets that you talked to were loyal to their mission and generally willing to go back to share the load with their fellow fighting men (and women).  But the brass up in CentComm isn't claiming that things are so much better than the mainstream media would have you believe  - they know that excreted matter is striking the aerial impeller, and recently used this chart to describe it:

http://www.med-owl.com/images/civilwarchart.jpg
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:54am
Poor poor Pegg........just think of all the quality time you will get to spend with the candidates......
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by brewcrew on Nov 1st, 2006, 9:03am

on 11/01/06 at 08:52:22, floridian wrote:
Re-mod software?  301 permanent redirects to pages with the same content but new titles?  Or a simple SQL query?

Well, how silly of me. Of course you would know how to do this. You know everything. I should have just PM'd you.
Title: Re: Kerry
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Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 11:01am

on 10/31/06 at 20:27:01, Mr. Happy wrote:
Well damn! I'm a 6%er!
Kerry was making a direct reference to the Admin, and any other interpretation shows a lack of education.

So dere.
Hap


You calling me stupid and uneducated?
A$$!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 11:01am
I think thats a whole dollars worth..........
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Nov 1st, 2006, 11:11am
I can't speak much re the pair Mass. has since I'm stuck with Boxer & Feinstein (and throw in Pulossie on top of that).  I think they're spiking the Calif. water with estrogen!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 11:32am
By Roger Runningen. Nov. 1 (Bloomberg) -- Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts canceled campaign appearances with Democratic congressional candidates in three states after members of his own party criticized his remarks about the Iraq war and US troops..................

;)
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Charlie on Nov 1st, 2006, 12:49pm
Oh good. Can't wait. At last... It's been dry for so long... http://photobucket.com/albums/e396/Ter_/smileys/Thanks/th_Thanx.gif

Have some things to catch up on. Here goes:

Kerry has zero ability to tell a joke. Witness his stumbling all over the place in his feeble attempt to lambaste Bush & Co. Other Democrats can do it, but not he. Bush steps in it every time he opens his mouth. I was never a big fan Kerry and he does indeed look like Lurch.  Kerry can't tell a joke but every time those sweetheart compassionate conservative--faith over facts--throwbacks in what used to be a great party make jokes it's at the expense of the electorate.

Kerry and Bush:  Orators of the level of Elmer Fudd.

I'm wound up here....I really needed this so sit back and enjoy: http://subscribe.smileygenerator.us/new/albums//TVsnack.gif?SSImageQuality=Full

Lately, even the creationist red staters have learned that neo-conservatives think they are idiots. Since just about every other GOP Congressional candidate has run like hell away from the war and Bush to try to hang on to their seats, they are delighted for this safer target. Bush can stumble around now and pursue his never ending entertaining at more military bases and venues with  the reddest people in the reddest areas of the reddest states. It's an example of the way the GOP deals with Bush to keep him out of the way. As an anonymous GOP strategist said: . “If you aren’t speaking out against the way that this war has been conducted, you are dead in the water.”

Long post but then issues rather than personal attacks are more interesting. Bush forgets that his job is to try to make sure the that if we are indeed the greatest country, his crowd has to  behave that way.

Charlie   Ah.....I feel so much better now.... http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/puterhug.gif
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by fubar on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:08pm
Charlie, for once I really agree with you.  Spot on.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:12pm
Liberals give a whole new meaning to, better red than dead.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:37pm

on 11/01/06 at 13:12:43, Bob P wrote:
Liberals give a whole new meaning to, better red than dead.


And those are the only two choices on the menu?   If liberals hated America, they would vote Republican.

I guess Bob doesn't like the VoteVets group either, with their commercials featuring cowardly traitors like retired General Wes Clark and disabled vets from the Iraq war:

http://www.youtube.com/v/jfkqC_etID8
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:41pm
Kinda reminds ya of Kerry leading the Nam Vets Against the War.  (Nam remains 1 of only 5 communist countries in the world).
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by stevegeebe on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:45pm
Neither one of these jackasses are worth the time exhausted in this thread.

Kerry= Bush= worthless turds.

Steve G
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 1:45pm
election day is coming soon, the American people will have their say.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 2:11pm
And once again the Dems will register dead people and bus in the homeless and after they lose they will claim that the elections were stolen............
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 2:39pm
While racist Republicans try to intimidate minority voters ...



Quote:
GOP Worker Fired for Role in Latino Voter Intimidation

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/politics/socal/la-101906letter,0,133626.story?coll=la-home-headlines
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Bob P on Nov 1st, 2006, 2:57pm
And don't forget about the Dems trying to cut out the military absentee vote.  Why do they do that if the vets hate Bush like Flo says?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:01pm

on 11/01/06 at 14:39:01, floridian wrote:
While racist Republicans try to intimidate minority voters ...


Don't you mean illegal voters?
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:10pm

on 11/01/06 at 14:39:01, floridian wrote:
While racist Republicans try to intimidate minority voters ...

The guy is Vietnamese. C'mon Flo.............
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:10pm

on 11/01/06 at 13:45:21, stevegeebe wrote:
Neither one of these jackasses are worth the time exhausted in this thread.

Kerry= Bush= worthless turds.

Steve G



I love you.  :-*
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:26pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:10:04, maffumatt wrote:
The guy is Vietnamese. C'mon Flo.............


So members of an 'ethnic' group cant be racist?  No Chinese discrimination against the Japanese?  An Asian in California can't try to supress the Latino vote?   Are you suggesting that racism is reserved for whites??
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:32pm
No you're comment made it seem  racism is reserved for republican. You're smarter than that.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:41pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:32:39, maffumatt wrote:
 racism is reserved for republicans.  


That is obviously false, as I am in no way a republican, but due to my belief that America was founded on great principles and the theory would work if we could get rid of the rampant communism that has seeped into our government like a tapeworm in some one's small intestine, I am of course labeled as a racist.  But little do "they" know (leftists for the most part) the democratic party is the most racist of the two.  But I wouldn't piss on very many members of our federal government if they were on fire, hell none of the state boys for that matter, no matte which side of the aisle they sit on.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:41pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:01:25, JeffB wrote:
Don't you mean illegal voters?


No. The letter referred to immigrants in general.


Quote:
The California Secretary of State mailed letters to counteract an intimidating flier linked to a Republican congressional candidate's campaign that warned immigrants they could go to jail if they vote.

The bilingual letter mailed on Wednesday was endorsed by several Hispanic civil rights groups and encourages U.S. citizens to vote Nov. 7, informing them of the official state requirements to register and telling them to ignore the "false and misleading" information in the earlier flier.


You can pretend that voter intimidation hasnt been a part of Republican politics since Jim Crow.   And how bout those 12 Republicans arrested last week in Santa Ana for tampering with voter registration?  

http://abclocal.go.com/kabc/story?section=local&id=4711102
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 3:42pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:32:39, maffumatt wrote:
No you're comment made it seem  racism is reserved for republican. You're smarter than that.



I actually came away with "all republicans are racists".  At least that's how it came across to me.  
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:00pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:32:39, maffumatt wrote:
No you're comment made it seem  racism is reserved for republican. You're smarter than that.


Sure, there is some racism among Democrats.  But the Republicans built their southern base by opposing the civil rights movement.  

Which party is running a negative ad against a black candidate that features jungle drums??  Who spread rumors that John McCain had an illegitimate black daughter?  Who wired people to polygraphs to test political ads, and found that the Willie Horton ads scared the shit out of whites?  That type of virulent racism is seen in one party.

Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:00pm
I once read that Chuck Schumer had a couple of experienced staffers who got a hold of Lt.Gov Micheal Steele of Maryland, credit report. Which is not a big deal, unless you used his stolen social security number to get the info, which they did.
Flo, all you're saying now is, our shit doesn't stink as bad as yours. Face it, the left has no platform to stand on. All you people do is cry about every little thing Bush does but offer NO solutions to what you think is wrong Go ahead and bitch and moan and hold your breathe till your face turns red but face it, you guys have nothing!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by maffumatt on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:01pm
I think Thomas's post said it best. bla bla bla
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by fubar on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:08pm
All this talk about pissing on people... what site is this again?  I think my browser got hijacked.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:13pm
I almost wish that Kerry won in 2004. I'd give anything to see what that soldier hating SOB and his drunken ketchup queen would have done with Iraq!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:17pm

on 11/01/06 at 16:00:57, JeffB wrote:
I once read that Chuck Schumer had a couple of experienced staffers who got a hold of Lt.Gov Micheal Steele of Maryland, credit report. Which is not a big deal, unless you used his stolen social security number to get the info, which they did.
Flo, all you're saying now is, our shit doesn't stink as bad as yours. Face it, the left has no platform to stand on. All you people do is cry about every little thing Bush does but offer NO solutions to what you think is wrong Go ahead and bitch and moan and hold your breathe till your face turns red but face it, you guys have nothing!


If they violated privacy laws, they should be punished for it.  Just like someone who says "no wiretaps without a court order" that goes and taps phones without one.

No platform?   I like the idea of a suplus instead of deficit, I am for increased access to healthcare, and I think we should stop burying our heads in the sand of Iraq.  I also think that checks and balances should be restored - Congress has become a rubber stamp under the Republicans.

Sounds like a clear cut difference.  Let's see what the voters say next week.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by JeffB on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:26pm
You are right about the deficit, You would think the Dems would get rid of thier pork spending and put that money into the programs for the poor. I have an idea, get that Reid guy from Nevada to manage the countries money. After all he made a shit load of money off of property that he no longer owned. He's a money wiz in my book!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:26pm

on 11/01/06 at 15:42:22, thomas wrote:
I actually came away with "all republicans are racists".  At least that's how it came across to me.  


And when Jeff said " And once again the Dems will register dead people and bus in the homeless and after they lose they will claim that the elections were stolen............" did he come across as "all Democrats are crooks"?  
     
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:41pm

on 11/01/06 at 16:26:34, JeffB wrote:
You are right about the deficit, You would think the Dems would get rid of thier pork spending and put that money into the programs for the poor. I have an idea, get that Reid guy from Nevada to manage the countries money. After all he made a shit load of money off of property that he no longer owned. He's a money wiz in my book!


He made money off a property that he no longer owned - because he transfered the property to an LLC, and got ownership in that company.  Developers do that day in and day out, and that itself is not mystical as the nutosphere intimates, certainly not evidence of breaking any law.  If there are any possible improprieties (conflict of interest, failure to disclose, etc), then investigate away.

But, assuming that he did anything wrong, is profiting from a personal land deal worse than making defense procurement decisions based on which contractor provides the best hookers, as Duke Cunningham did?  

Last year, CREW released a list of the 'dirty-dozen' most corrupt politicians in Washington - ten repubs, 2 democrats.  You say you don't like CREW, don't think they are really non-partisan??  Ok, show me what you think is a non-partisan comparison of corruption in the 2 parties!

         o  [corruption:] Sen. Conrad Burns (R-MT)
         o [corruption:] Sen. Bill Frist (R-TN, Senate Majority leader),
         o [corruption:] Sen. Rick Santorum (R-PA).
         o [corruption:] Rep. Roy Blunt (R-MO, House Majority Whip)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Randy Cunningham (R-CA)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Tom Feeney (R-FL)
         o [corruption:] Rep. William Jefferson (D-LA)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Richard Pombo (R-CA)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Rick Renzi (R-AZ)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Charles Taylor (R-NC)
         o [corruption:] Rep. Maxine Waters (D-CA)
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:52pm

on 11/01/06 at 16:26:48, floridian wrote:
And when Jeff said " And once again the Dems will register dead people and bus in the homeless and after they lose they will claim that the elections were stolen............" did he come across as "all Democrats are crooks"?  
     



Dead people have been voting for decades.  And those "procedures" are passed down from the national commitee to the local "voter advocacy" groups.  The voting practices in this country leave a pretty sour taste in my mouth, everytime I vote I have to go home and shower, because I've just voted for some scumbag and feel grimy.  I bet you'd be surprised to know that in the last two elections the only guy that I didn't feel that way after voting for him, was a democrat.  I know all democrats aren't crooks.  But the problem is that almost all politicians are crooks period.  And I believe that the dems are more racist than the reps.  I grew up down south were you could at least tell who the racists were, up here it's all kept behind closed doors, and I'll tell you it's very, very ugly.  I live in the most liberal city in the world and it would curl your toes to find out how these "progressive" politicians really think about minorities when they think no one is listening.  But back to your question, no I didn't come away with the feeling that all democrats were crooks, because he didn't say "the crooked democrats".
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 4:54pm
http://coalition4families.com/doyle/

Here's my wonderful governor.
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by deltadarlin on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:07pm


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/tribander_3/irak.jpg
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:10pm

on 11/01/06 at 17:07:47, deltadarlin wrote:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v123/tribander_3/irak.jpg



Not THAT is funny.  
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by BarbaraD on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:15pm
All I know for sure is that I had more "disposable" income when the dems were in.

We weren't in a war that was of no useful purpose whatsoever except to get a lot of kids killed for nothing.

And if any of you believe the "tax cuts" propoganda, let me assure you that's all it is. I've been in the "tax" business for years and what I'm seeing is the "average" people getting screwed to the wall with these tax breaks.

Education???? We've got one of the worst education systems in the world. Our kids are graduating without learning to read and write - much less do math. "No Child left behind?" They're all being left behind.

The new Rx plan for seniors -- a bunch of hype and too complicated for most to understand. It's a start, but too little too late. People still can't afford health care (look at most of us). But the insurance companies pay good bribes, so we don't have a chance.

And it's amazing to me the millions of dollars these "candidates" spend to get a job that doesn't pay worth a darn. Do you think maybe they're getting payoffs??? ::)

I don't think the dems or reps are either one worth a darn, but come election day, I'm voting for ANYONE who's NOT an incumbent. The guys up there now have had enough time to fill their coffers.... it's time for a new bunch to take over.

Now that's my two cents worth....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by tanner on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:19pm
 

 Flo, I think the most famous and longest episode of

DEAD PEOPLE VOTING

was actually in the city of Chicago during The Richard J Daley I years.....and guess which party he belonged to?

and I voted for him, but I was one of the live ones of course and the Republicans kept putting up hacks leaving me no choice.

.....Tim
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by DonnaHar on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:21pm
Ditto what Barb said!!
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by vietvet2tours on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:27pm
http://nefariouslabs.r30.net/Dead%20Horse.jpg
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Jonny on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:29pm
LMMFAO....Potter!!!! ;;D
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by boonie on Nov 1st, 2006, 5:52pm
GO BARB

AND RIGHT ON POTTER


Personally anyone who talks bad about Vets is off my Christmas list

boonie
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by floridian on Nov 1st, 2006, 6:22pm

on 11/01/06 at 16:52:11, thomas wrote:
And I believe that the dems are more racist than the reps.  I grew up down south were you could at least tell who the racists were, up here it's all kept behind closed doors, and I'll tell you it's very, very ugly.  I live in the most liberal city in the world and it would curl your toes to find out how these "progressive" politicians really think about minorities when they think no one is listening.


I understand part of what you said, but don't get the conclusion.

I would compare the way racial minorities are treated to the way that gays are treated.  There are people in both parties that personally feel a visceral dislike to these groups.  People that don't really like them, trust them, or want to associate with them. People that have hostile thoughts, and say things when they think they are among like minded individuals.

The question is -  how does the party deal with the issues as an organization? Should the organization try to create policies of tolerance, inclusion, and protect the legal rights of these people.  Or use fear and disdain of these minority groups as a wedge issue to get out the vote?  To me, that is a key difference.  


Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Charlie on Nov 1st, 2006, 7:09pm

Quote:
was actually in the city of Chicago during The Richard J Daley I years.....and guess which party he belonged to?


And the National Party hated his guts, especially after the 1968 Democratic Convention. Democrats tend not to make such things a secret, unlike the GOP.

Wow Thomas:


Quote:
That is obviously false, as I am in no way a republican, but due to my belief that America was founded on great principles and the theory would work if we could get rid of the rampant communism that has seeped into our government like a tapeworm in some one's small intestine,


You've included something like this before. I don't know where this comes from. I've been around for 60 years and never have we been further from Communism. Don't tell anyone but the MacCarthy hearings, aside from being the blight that it is on our country, also took our eyes off the ball and made it easier for a few Commie spies to do their worst. The good old days.

Let's see, voter fraud, etc. Already they're done test voting in Jeb Bush's Florida. Power failures and miss-recorded test ballots were all over the place. The checkers were almost all hired by Republican leaning manufacturers and the state. If you think hanging shards was a problem, try the mess all over the place this time. WTF were they thinking?
Damn. My hometown was the home of the Automatic Voting Machine Co. Great big telephone booth sized things with mecahnical levers and some features that made it nearly impossible to make a mistake if you can read.  We still use the old things here. I'm not sure this time. The nice thing is that when you pull that lever on them, it leaves a nice paper trail. Not so with Diebold, that makes no apologies for being big Bush supporters. E-voting is a scary thing.

Iraq is such a mess but I read the other day that a General over there recommended that we pull out of Baghdad, let them stew, and secure the oil facilities and set up some bases.  That  is exactly how the British Empire was able to be so successful in this and so many areas. It wasn't pretty but it worked well enough for them to skim off the good stuff and not lose entire armies while raping the countries. It won't work today but it's fun to think about.

I hate what has happened to our politics. Everybody hates the other side and don't consider getting together for the common good. It's all us or them without concern what happens to the other side. It's medieval. I blame some of this on the end of the cold war. We function better with a common enemy and sadly that enemy is often ourselves. If you breathe a word of compromise, you get no help or worse from your party. John McCain is the prime example.

I liked Ike.

What the GOP needs is another Theodore Roosevelt who wrote about how dangerous our country can be if Congress doesn't reign in the President now and then.

Charlie
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by lashultz on Nov 1st, 2006, 7:21pm

on 11/01/06 at 17:15:52, BarbaraD wrote:
All

Now that's my two cents worth....

Hugs BD


A well spent two cents.


                   Lee
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Not4Hire on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:01pm
a better spent 2 cents is what charlie said...


Quote:
What the GOP needs is another Theodore Roosevelt who wrote about how dangerous our country can be if Congress doesn't reign in the President now and then


think about it...

and VOTE ... or STFU (that's Shut The Fuck Up) if you have nothing substantive to say...
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by Sean_C on Nov 1st, 2006, 8:12pm
I didn't read the thread, I just wanted to cast my vote that Kerry sucks hard  ;)

What a fuckin dickhead !!!!

Sean...........................................

edit: LMMFAO DELTA [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Kerry
Post by thomas on Nov 2nd, 2006, 9:28am

on 11/01/06 at 18:22:08, floridian wrote:
I would compare the way racial minorities are treated to the way that gays are treated.  There are people in both parties that personally feel a visceral dislike to these groups.  People that don't really like them, trust them, or want to associate with them. People that have hostile thoughts, and say things when they think they are among like minded individuals.

The question is -  how does the party deal with the issues as an organization? Should the organization try to create policies of tolerance, inclusion, and protect the legal rights of these people.  Or use fear and disdain of these minority groups as a wedge issue to get out the vote?  To me, that is a key difference.  



We agree 100% on your first paragraph.  It saddens me that for a country that was founded on "acceptance" we still have so much work to do and are one of the least open-minded nations in the world when it comes to sexuality, religious beliefs, socio-political issues, we would rather fight each other than even attempt to understand one another as citizens, we have no unity and no identity any more.

In reference to the second paragraph; It really bothers me when people rush to a party because of it's stand on "issues", shouldn't ALL parties be in favor of making us a whole, complete and free-thinking nation?  Why do they have the commoners at each other's throats?  It amazes me that we as a people are too blind to see this.  The way the government manipulates people for it's own benefit is the very definition of evil.  And the solution is much easier than people think.  All we have to do is swallow our pride and really do what's best and get involved and denounce these power-hungry bastards for what they are and send them packing.


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