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Title: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 5:54pm go into this bathroom alone? "The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression," the Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund announced yesterday." http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/271-trans24.jpg http://www.nydailynews.com/news/story/464637p-390955c.html |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:04pm That was the hardest part of being a single parent. When my daughter was still in her single digits I never let her go into a bathroom alone. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:06pm on 10/25/06 at 18:04:39, JeffB wrote:
LOL....now you will have to go in when shes double digits to protect her from these freaks.....whats this world coming too? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by echo on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:07pm on 10/25/06 at 18:06:34, Jonny wrote:
As long as you're dressed like a woman it shouldn't be a problem. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Ronny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:08pm LMAO |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:08pm on 10/25/06 at 18:07:55, echo wrote:
Does that go for the child molester? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by alchemy on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:19pm i always stand just outside the bathroom for my 16 yr old and my wife. i trust no one |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:25pm Jonny, you just gotta dig up a pic of siaphon or whatever that freaks name is....lol. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:30pm on 10/25/06 at 18:25:01, JeffB wrote:
This Freak? http://www.howardstern.com/dtcms/tsimg/06_54423.jpg |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:33pm on 10/25/06 at 18:08:54, Jonny wrote:
So men that wear women's clothes are more likely to molest? I thought most molesters were men that dressed like men. What about men with long hair? ;) |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:37pm on 10/25/06 at 18:33:40, floridian wrote:
Seems to me that this is an open ticket for a molester OR rapist to put on a wig and have easy pickings. Are you siding with this, Flo? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:44pm on 10/25/06 at 18:30:03, Jonny wrote:
It's like looking at a train wreck, you're horrified but just can't seem to look away. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:46pm Flo, would you let your child walk into a public bathroom with a man dressed like a woman alone? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:48pm on 10/25/06 at 18:33:40, floridian wrote:
Who has long hair? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by deltadarlin on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:56pm First off, get the terminology correct here. Transvestite/Cross-dressing is the act of wearing clothing commonly associated with another gender within a particular society. Transgender/transsexual is the state of one's "gender identity" (self-identification as male, female, both or neither) not matching one's "assigned gender" (identification by others as male or female based on physical/genetic sex). Now, for the kicker here. For a transsexual to be considered for gender reassignment surgery, they must live as the sex they wish to become for one year. That aside, can anyone provide any statistics on relating transgendered people to child molestation or rape? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 6:57pm on 10/25/06 at 18:37:03, Jonny wrote:
Just asking questions - its hard to separate out the concern for kids with the ridicule of people with gender issues that are unrealated to molestation. Seems the real problem is with letting a kid alone in a private space where others can corner them. Who's gonna stand at the bathroom door and do the genital check for people undergoing gender reassignment, or women like my Aunt Bertha, who is sometimes mistakenly assumed to be a man? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:00pm Did you read this, Delta? "The Metropolitan Transportation Authority agreed to allow riders to use MTA rest rooms "consistent with their gender expression," Expression!!!! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:04pm on 10/25/06 at 18:46:59, JeffB wrote:
Let me ask a question of all the parents out there - you have a kid of the opposite gender. You are at some public place that is semi-deserted (mall, park, wherever) and the kid needs to go really bad. Do you let your kid (lets say they are 12 years old) go into a bathroom unacompanied? Not knowing who might be in there? That's a routine occurence based on the way the rules and the architecture are set up. But dads who have daughters and moms that have sons cant walk into the restroom with their kid. So they send them in alone. The only meaningful question is whether we want to abolish our current system and make everything airplane/portapotty style. People would still get a cubicle for privacy, and that privacy would be less likely to be invaded and abused. It would be easier for parents to keep a real eye on their kids. But this discussion isn't really about improving safety, is it? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:09pm on 10/25/06 at 18:06:34, Jonny wrote:
I think the key words here are "whats this world coming too". As we are forced to become more accepting of peoples actions, beliefs, and ways of life it seems to me we are opening the doors wider and wider for all kinds of wierdos. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Paul98 on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:16pm on 10/25/06 at 19:04:57, floridian wrote:
Kind of an expensive way to occomodate...what 0.001% of the population. Just make all bathrooms unisex. Problem solved. ;;D My problem with this law dosn't lie with transgender/transsexuals, it lies with the predators that would make use of this law to further their ways. -P. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:20pm Nice spin, Flo......but we all know that the freaks need their own bathroom. If the folks here had the balls to chime in you would see that most if not all wouldnt want these freaks in any bathroom but their own. Get back to your bra and panties, Flo....your boring me ;) |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:24pm Yeah, well I guess 'unisex' is what I was suggesting - but there are alot of people out there that are vehemently opposed to the immoral concept of a unisex bathroom, though they would accept something that was like an airplane or portapotty. :) And I wasn't suggesting it for the sake of the 0.00001% or whatever it is that Jonny has his pants twisted up about - more like a general concern for parents sending their kids in alone. And it goes beyond potential molesters - when mom has to send junior into the men's room, there could be other hazards - bacteriological, broken glass, whatever. A unisex would be safer for kids in that respect, as well. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:27pm on 10/25/06 at 19:20:23, Jonny wrote:
You need another hair-cut, bro. Good thing you've been living in a liberal place like Mass for the past decade - not some Taliban place like Alabamastan, where everybody "knows" that there is something wrong with men who have long hair. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Redd715 on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:36pm (where's that popcorn smiley when you REALLY need it?) |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:38pm on 10/25/06 at 19:27:51, floridian wrote:
I will have you know that I have never had a mullet....thank you very much :-* I love how you edited Alabama, Flo ;) |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Bethany1 on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:39pm on 10/25/06 at 19:04:57, floridian wrote:
I would take my son into the ladies room with me. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by georgej on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:42pm on 10/25/06 at 19:36:46, Redd715 wrote:
Don't know. But...... http://www.smilies.our-local.co.uk/index_files/needbathroom.gif I think we all need our own bathroom. Wherever we go. We could tow it behind us in a little wagon, or something. ;) George |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:44pm on 10/25/06 at 19:38:05, Jonny wrote:
Anything to taunt my soon to be in-laws, who actually live rather close to Florabama, home of the annual World Champion Mullet Toss competition. Quote:
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:46pm on 10/25/06 at 19:44:23, floridian wrote:
Flo, I don't care if you lick windows, interfere with farm animals, vote liberal or occasionally shit yourself.......You hang in there sunshine, you're fucking special... :-* |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by JeffB on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:46pm Southern California some years ago. Young boy goes into a bathroom on the beach and comes out in a body bag. A unisex bathroom would have prevented this? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Bethany1 on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:48pm I remember that Jeff, I dont think anything could have prevented that horrific crime. :( |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 7:52pm on 10/25/06 at 19:46:16, JeffB wrote:
No system is going to prevent all crime. But if a bathroom has twice as much traffic as it is unisex, it is less isolated, less desireable as a hunting grounds for a predator. It could have happened even with portapotties, although those provide far less cover for criminal activity. It's like having a neighborhood where there is poor lighting, the bushes are overgrown, and people don't walk outside after dark. All of those things can encourage crime. Putting up street lights, maintaining the landscaping, and seeing the neighbors out and about won't eliminate crime, but it usually does reduce it a good deal. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by alchemy on Oct 25th, 2006, 8:25pm everyone should just hold it until they get home. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 8:50pm on 10/25/06 at 20:25:13, alchemy wrote:
Or everyone should say this is way out of fucking line and we should not and do not have to put up with it! Until then we will let the courts tell us how we have to adjust to these freaks! What is more wrong than a court allowing a man in a womans room just becase he feels like it, no surgery, no hormone treatments.......nothing!, just becase he feels like going in there? Am I wrong here ladies? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Richr8 on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:02pm on 10/25/06 at 19:46:16, JeffB wrote:
I remeber that, it was in Oceanside at a highway rest stop. The parents wer right outside at the time. Awful! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Richr8 on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:05pm on 10/25/06 at 20:50:54, Jonny wrote:
I would Jonny, but I've had two hours of transgender training at work and I am now |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Bethany1 on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:12pm on 10/25/06 at 20:50:54, Jonny wrote:
nope. I 100% agree. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by rickyshot on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:14pm For once I agree with Floridian. Unisex porta potties is the way to go. And I personally have accompanied my kids to the washrooms till they were teens and waited outside within earshot even after. . And I do agree with Jonny about letting freaks enter a present ladies bathroom because they feel like a woman trapped in a man's body or some other bullshit like that or some other koo koo pervsion they have. You gotta a dick go to the men's room dressed in drag and good luck to you homeboy............... Let us face it. Public bathrooms have always been a danger in more ways than one. The freaks have are not going to change it one way or the other. MOst people male and female I know have been flashed when they were young in public places. When I was with my kids I never had that happen to me. I think I would have went ballistic. WE had a pervert drop his pants in Churchs chicken when I worked there and he started masterbating. I got a pot of hot oil to throw at him. You should have seen him get those pants up and book out of there with the quickness that would make an olympic runner proud. [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by chewy on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:15pm Probably still safer than allowing your son to become an alter boy. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:20pm on 10/25/06 at 21:15:49, chewy wrote:
Do you really think that? Having worked in Boston all these years? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by maffumatt on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:21pm For some strange reason the name John Mark Car comes to mind................... |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by jimmers on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:21pm Simple. Three bathrooms, Mens room, Ladies room and one for all of the people who cannot figure out what they are yet. I say a ? should be on the door Don't get me started on this one! Freak, cross dresser, whatever, keep it to yourself. jimmers |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:26pm on 10/25/06 at 20:50:54, Jonny wrote:
So where is the line? If he was getting hormone treatments, would that be different? If he was making the transition and dressing female full-time and scheduled to go on hormones, would that be different? Men wearing kilts, men wearing makeup or with long hair, men carrying a bag or wearing a watch that isn't suitably masculine - don't we need a committee for the prevention of vice and promotion of virtue to lay down community standards? We could be like Singapore, where any man entering the country who has long hair or a scraggly beard is sent through the airport barbershop before they are allowed in! Maybe if we had clear gender roles and enforced them, there wouldn't be all this confusion. Maybe being gay or transgendered isn't biological - it only occurs where there is moral terpitude. And maybe clusterheadaches are a punishment from above. Join the us in the war on science!! Help fundamentalists of all creeds unite against the transgendered she-males that threaten us all. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:27pm on 10/25/06 at 21:21:42, jimmers wrote:
Keep all the freaks in one room, thats all im saying......keep my grand kids out of their freak shit! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:29pm on 10/25/06 at 21:26:39, floridian wrote:
Dont ask me,Flo.......Ask the court ;;D Guess you didnt read this, Flo "consistent with their gender expression," Expression!!! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by floridian on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:42pm on 10/25/06 at 21:15:49, chewy wrote:
Did you mean to write "Altar Boy" ?? I'm afraid to ask what an alter-boy involves. 8) |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by maffumatt on Oct 25th, 2006, 9:54pm on 10/25/06 at 21:42:25, floridian wrote:
LMAO !!! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by chewy on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:00pm Quote:
Well. Considering the topic of this thread I guess it can go either way! LOL |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by maffumatt on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:15pm Thats what I was thinking too........... |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Redd715 on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:22pm The only thing that comes to mind with this topic is. Quote:
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:27pm on 10/25/06 at 22:22:48, Redd715 wrote:
So I guess your cool with your daughter going into a bathroom with this guy? http://www.nydailynews.com/ips_rich_content/271-trans24.jpg Gimmie a break! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Redd715 on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:30pm In a way she already does. There is a Gender-reassigned teacher at her school. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Donna_D. on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:32pm I agree with you, Jonny. Everyone needs to face facts...the world is a dangerous place and there are people out there who will take advantage of this new ruling. They have made it easy for a straight man to dress in drag and go into these women's restrooms specifically for the purpose of fulfilling their own sick fantasies. You people are missing the point. It isn't the people who are true crossdressers who we need to worry about, it is the people who will pretend to be to attack (or worse) you or your child. Answer to the question, Jonny. Not no but HELL NO!! DD |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 25th, 2006, 10:36pm on 10/25/06 at 22:30:04, Redd715 wrote:
Good luck! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by AussieBrian on Oct 25th, 2006, 11:08pm We've had uni-sex toilets of a sort in Australia for a long time. Going by the pictures on the doors, there's one for people with their shirts tucked in and another for people with their shirts tucked out. I'd been working pretty hard one day and was as scruffy as they come so went to the shirts-out loo and what a bloody mistake. Women everywhere, dirty nappies, screaming kids and what a god awful mess! Been tucking my shirt in ever since. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by BB on Oct 25th, 2006, 11:13pm Just a few months ago, a 7 years old girl went into the Ladies restroom at a big shopping centre in Sydney, with her 14 years old brother waiting outside the door and the rest of her family waiting nearby. Well, she never came out and her brother came in to find her naked body in a cubicle. Later a 24 years old man ( straight ) was arrested and trialed for her murder. Her brother never saw any man comming in or out of the Ladies, so who knows if the perpetrator came in dressed up as a woman or not ? I am with Jonny and Donna here, this can be potentially dangerous and should be looked at very carefully as a possible loophole for (child ) molesters to access more victims. I agree with Donna thats not the true transvestites that we need to worry about so much although early exposure of such to young children may not be a good idea, but they dont pose as a real (physical ) threats as the molesters who would use this legislation to their advantages, dress up as women and go to the Ladies to look for potential victims. I have 2 boys, 10 and 7 and I used to take them to the Ladies with me, or we would go to the Parents room if there is one. Recently my 10 years old started to protest and he wanted to go to the Mens by himself, I would allow him but then I would stand right outside the door and keep yelling out to him saying things like " Mum is waiting, hurry up ". It used to embarrass him but when I explained to him why I need to do so he is cool with it and actually now would yell back at me several times to let me know that he is ok. People do look at me strangely but I dont care, as long as my children are safe. So Jonny, whats your proposal to make it safer for our children? Annette |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Tata on Oct 25th, 2006, 11:24pm I have to agree with Jon--as a woman, a mother , and someone with common sense. I'm sick to death of all this PC-ness--it's nothing more than a matter of common sense. The issue is whether someone is male or female, period. Not how they "feel", or how they "identify" themselves. It's a matter of biology, not mentality. We go screwing around with that issue and we are setting ourselves up for a whole mess of problems. Look at case after case of men, and women, who pose as something other than what they are (biologically) and they end up dead or seriously hurt because of it. And groups like this Transgender Legal Defense and Education Fund and, at times, the ACLU are doing more to hurt people like this than to help them. They are enforcing the false notion that they can legislate acceptance of what a LOT of people in this country are NEVER going to accept--law or no law. THAT'S reality, and , unfortunately, we all have to deal with reality. I can't think of one woman I know who wants a man in a public restroom with her or her daughters. And it does open up a whole host of problems with molesters and rapists taking advantage of, once again, our government giving them the perfect opportunity to do what they do--stalk their prey, separate them from the rest of us, and go in for the kill. All because, you know--we're such a civilized society. we don't want to OFFEND anyone or, God forbid, make them feel bad about themselves. Good topic Jon. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by tanner on Oct 26th, 2006, 1:01am A child molester is not going to give a rats ass whether there is a sign on the door allowing them access or not! They are also not going to care if there is a law allowing entry due to Gender Expression in force or not! They are sick criminal beasts and if anyone counts on the laws or signs to protect their kids , they are nuts! I have no daughters of my own, but when I managed a Campground I often yelled out "Is anyone in here", and then went and checked the stalls before some of our more inteligent guests allowed thier girls to go in and use the facilities during "quiet" times, and had signs posted in our more remote areas to promote the "buddy system" all the time. BTW: the same concerns should occur to parents of young boys! Redd, I will BE There, and they can drag both of us off to the burn piles! Thats my several cents worth!.................Tim |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by mynm156 on Oct 26th, 2006, 2:33am Oh HELL NO! |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 26th, 2006, 3:21am I would sooner let my kid in the bathroom with a transgender 'freak' than a bible thumper or certainly a priest. I bet on some website somewhere, there is a thread about 'tattoo freaks', and how they wouldnt let their kids alone with a freak that has tattoos. I would let my daughter use the bathroom with a transgender tattoo freak (like Jonny) before I let her alone with a bible thumper. Thinking something is freaky is relative. B$ |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Kevin_M on Oct 26th, 2006, 5:46am Could I just get a quick bit of advise here about unisex restrooms, it's a new experience. Can someone tell me what is the common sense thing to do if there are women in there, does unisex imply simultaneous unisex use, like just using the separate stall? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by deltadarlin on Oct 26th, 2006, 8:09am There are still places in the rural south where a long-haired tattooed man would be thought to be (a)a drug dealer, (b)a gang banger or (c) a freak and would even possibly be arrested simply because of whom they *appear* to be. I can also remember and it wasn't too damned long ago where the public in general viewed *long-hairs* as drug taking, partying freaks. When I was in Memphis this past spring, I saw people of the likes I'd never seen before (think extreme punk). If I saw any of those people in a dark alley, they'd scare the bejezzus out of me. If you really look at the sexual predators out there (Those who have been arrested and convicted), I don't think you'll find too many who've gone to the extent of dressing up as the opposite sex to lure a victim. The way that I read that article is that not just *any* person fits their criteria. It would be a man who is living as a woman, not just a crossdresser. Again, any person who is trying to undergo gender reassignment surgery must live, IN EVERY FORM AND FASHION, as the sex they are going to change to. 'darlin |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by alchemy on Oct 26th, 2006, 8:37am Unfortunately these days it seems your not safe anywhere. Take the man from Maine last year who jumped down through the toilet in an outdoor restroom and went to the womens side to take pics from underneath of women going to the bathroom. How can you predict that? Personnaly i wouldn't want my wife or daughters going to the restroom with someone like Jonny pictured. i don't believe that people under going gender reassignment should swap restrooms until they have had their surgery. Maybe for safety in public restrooms there should be attendants to make sure no one is hiding waiting to attack someone or trying to lure a kid out of the restroom. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by vietvet2tours on Oct 26th, 2006, 10:47am Well hell on the ranch we just piss outside on the ground |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by nani on Oct 26th, 2006, 10:53am on 10/26/06 at 10:47:33, vietvet2tours wrote:
Note to self: When Potter visits, don't let him in the yard. :P |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by rickyshot on Oct 26th, 2006, 1:23pm on 10/25/06 at 23:24:43, Tata wrote:
Excellent post newbie. I feel exactly the same way. Who gives a fuck about peoples sensetivities when the safety of the greater population especially children are concerned. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Tiannia on Oct 26th, 2006, 2:27pm ok Explaination of the unisex bathroom - One of the new clubs and hot spot restraunts have unisex bathrooms. Yes they have stalls and anyone and everyone can do in at the same time and to thier thing. It looks like a womans room. There are no urinals. Now onto the subject. Work has kept me busy so I was not able to post earlier. PEGG Damn right I will be there as I am one as well. I was never so happy as they I was when the gal up in Reno finally got the Army to allow a pentacle on her husbands military headstone. Jonny, I have a 9 yr old girl and a 4 yr old boy. They both go with me into the bathroom and into the mens room with my husband. I dont give a shit if I embarrass them. I want them safe. And damn right if my son gets to an age where he does not want to go into the womens room, you can be damn sure that I will walk intot he mens room. I could give a flying fick what anyone else thinks. I remember watching one of the talk shows about that little boy that was killed in California. I was pregnant with my daughter at the time. It scared the shit out of me. That was a man who was in the mens bathroom just waiting for the right person to enter. My kids think I am mean but I dont personally give a shit and I tell my kids that if I can not touch them, I can not keep them safe. When they are old enough to keep themselves safe then they can go in by themselves. This is not the world that I grew up in. I was out everyday after school and all say during the weekend and my mom had 0 clue where the hell I was. As long as I came home when the street lights came on. There is not a snowballs chance in hell that I would do that with my kids. I dont even let my kids play in the back yeard (filly fenced and private yard) without either myself or my husband out there with them. Quote:
This is the truth of the matter. If someone wants to use a bathroom as a place to do harm they will find a way to do it. this law does not change that or even make it more likely. Even in the article, one of the women stated this concern herself. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by kcopelin on Oct 26th, 2006, 3:52pm Potter- IF I allow my son-who already thinks you're way cool because of the fish thing-IF I tell him you piss outside-he'll want you to adopt him I swear-his DAD told him, if you have to go that bad-just go out in the bushes- I am still un-doing that habit....guys ::) RE: public restrooms-I am a totally paranoid Mom-I insist my husband goes in the bathroom with Mikey, and if he's not there-I open the door-and in my nastiest meanest most bad-butted way-scream ANYONE IN HERE?-(I keep my eyes closed by the way) I check it out-and I don't care how over the top it seems-my son is precious and I am in charge of taking due precautions to keep him safe...I also pop my head in the door every 15 seconds and shout-everything okay Mike? If there is no answer (which happened once)-I storm the fortress of male toilet stuff. He was really embarassed, as were the other guys, but he was also safe. Three weeks later, when he was speaking to me again-he said he understood. Another thing-I printed the pictures of all the registered sex offenders in my neighborhood and showed them to my son. "You see one of these guys-run home immediately, screaming all the way." And-none of these guys are transgender-they are mostly older, ugly and pathetic. There is a special place in hell for them. Redd, the point of the quote, is that if we do not stand up against evil, thinking it doesn't affect us, then we become part of it-and eventually will be "assimilated". Peace kathy |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by LeLimey on Oct 26th, 2006, 4:06pm In alot of places here now we have mens and womens toilets and then a "parent and children" toilet where parents of either sex can go WITH THEIR KIDS. No one without kids can go in, they'd be lynched for a start - but I think thats the best way to go myself having read everything else. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Tiannia on Oct 26th, 2006, 4:43pm on 10/26/06 at 16:06:20, LeLimey wrote:
Every place that has a family restroom, we use it and it pisses me off to no end when we stand out side of the door and it is a single girl who comes out. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by LeLimey on Oct 26th, 2006, 4:49pm Tia that would piss me off too but then again.. I can understand everyone's fears about public toilets. :-/ I tend to think if it was MY daughter I'd sooner someone was pissed off at them.. there's never a "right" answer is there? Not a practical one that would always work anyhow. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by BB on Oct 26th, 2006, 5:09pm I always use the parents and children room whenever I am out with the kids and they need to use the toilet. But not every places have them. I guess as parents we need to petition for this, then all the weirdos can stay out. Annette |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Redd715 on Oct 26th, 2006, 5:49pm on 10/25/06 at 22:27:26, Jonny wrote:
I'll Probably get flamed bad for this. The person shown in this picture's wrap sheet probably has a couple speeding tickets. This is a person I'd be much more worried about. http://offender.doc.state.wi.us/public/images/photo?Type=PICS&photoId=28994 08/07/1992 SHAWANO WI 948.02(1): First-Degree Sexual Assault of a Child He lives just a stones throw away from Ben Franklin Middle School and within 592 ft. of Chas F Fernandez Center Alternative Learning. Who's the more dangerous person? |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Jonny on Oct 26th, 2006, 6:06pm on 10/26/06 at 17:49:40, Redd715 wrote:
The guy walking into a ladies room on a train platform at midnight!, because he now has a right to. At least you know where the guy in your picture is, no? I think everyone forgot the original question in this thread, try reading it again. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by georgej on Oct 26th, 2006, 6:16pm on 10/26/06 at 17:09:26, BB wrote:
Parent's and Children's Room--as sensible a solution to this particular problem as I've heard. Shall this be established by legislation, or should it come about because parents demand that it occur--by refusing to patronize those establishments that do not have them? They exist in a few places I've seen here in the US, but they are not at all widespread. But more pressing threats exist to the well-being of children than the unlikely threat of a cross-dressing child molester abducting them from a bathroom. More children, by far, are injured, killed, and molested by family members than by strangers. It's terrible, and sad, but very true. What should be done about that? As far as offenders who are strangers, the greater portion of child predators are not cross-dressers, or transgendered individuals. I'd be interested to see some statistical information, but it is clearly true. We need to create some effective way to sequester child predators from children and from society at large--some way to identify them early on as offenders, and some way to make certain that they are unable to re-offend. As a society of more-or-less reasonable individuals, we ought to be able to secure the safety of our youngest citizens. How is this to be accomplished? I have no easy-fix, off-the-cuff, throwaway answers. Those seem to be in plentiful supply these days, and--you know what? They don't do a damn bit of good. What we need is a meaningful, informed, discussion of this by reasonable people to come up with a solution that is consistent with a democratic society, is realistic, and achievable. Can we do this? I believe we can, although dialogue seems to have gone out of fashion, and posturing is all the rage. It's the child predator that's the problem. We have not dealt effectively with them. I'll offer one example of an almost unbelievably monstrous child predator here in the northern part of my state, who should have been isolated from the rest of us long ago, but who was released from prison and subsequently committed a horrific series of crimes: http://www.idahostatesman.com/107/story/55926.html There's your true threat--the means by which predators like this attack are irrelevant--they will always find some way to get to a child. The offender is the problem. There was nothing this family could have done to protect their children. Best wishes, George |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by LadyElaine1 on Oct 26th, 2006, 6:38pm Nope don't want my daughter in there and I don't want to be in there. I am with Jonny its asking for trouble and some child will have to pay for it with their life. |
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Title: Re: Would you let your daughter..... Post by Charlie on Oct 26th, 2006, 8:31pm All I know is that trannies are not the scariest bunch. For the most part, their behavior, while rarely dangerous, mostly hurts themselves. Watch out for the rest of us old preevert singles. Charlie |
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