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(Message started by: Peppermint on Oct 19^th, 2006, 11:23am)

Title: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Peppermint on Oct 19^th, 2006, 11:23am

We all know that photos in mags of those oh-so-pretty or "natural beauties" are re-touched, but this can really be an eye-opener...

http://www.campaignforrealbeauty.com/home_films_evolution_v2.swf

I know many of you have daughters. I'm showing my daughter this so she realizes what the media is doing out there. Reality is regularly distorted by the media.

A girl can dream to look like that model... except that model doesn't even look like herself!

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Richr8 on Oct 19^th, 2006, 11:33am

Shame is, she was quite beautiful before they touched her.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by nani on Oct 19^th, 2006, 11:49am

Love that, girl. Thanks!!!
~nani ( who's always hated Barbie)

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Peppermint on Oct 19^th, 2006, 12:01pm

on 10/19/06 at 11:33:36, Richr8 wrote:

Shame is, she was quite beautiful before they touched her.

Rich -
You're absolutely right. They just homogenized her look, if you get what I mean.

Beauty is in the eye of your own self-esteem.

I'm glad you said something, men tend to stay quiet on this subject.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Jimi on Oct 19^th, 2006, 1:34pm

Quote:

Beauty is in the eye of your own self-esteem.

Word.......

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by pattik on Oct 19^th, 2006, 2:06pm

on 10/19/06 at 11:49:52, nani wrote:

Love that, girl. Thanks!!!
~nani ( who's always hated Barbie)

LMAO, Nani....me too...let's pick on Barbie. ;;D
edited to add: An estimated 125,000 barbies are purchased
EVERY DAY in this country. :o

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y71/northcolor/b339680.jpg

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Dragnlance on Oct 19^th, 2006, 2:10pm

I agree that every female should see this. I love photoshop, but this is information that is left out when the schools are recruiting models.

It should also be noted that the same exact thing happens with the male models too.

Dragn

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Langa on Oct 19^th, 2006, 3:32pm

Thanks, Pepa. Will make sure to show Crystal that today...she's at the age in HS where this could really drive home the message that she truly is beautiful just the way she is.

BTW Pattie, I'm sure she'll want to know where to get that Barbie...LOL :-/

Langa

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Bethany1 on Oct 19^th, 2006, 4:32pm

Love the Gangsta Barbie..LOL...

Pep, I liked that video. I kinda wish I was airbrushed a little bit. ;)

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Turts on Oct 24^th, 2006, 1:04am

Quote:

Rich -
You're absolutely right. They just homogenized her look, if you get what I mean.

they are made her attractive to the masses, a generic model

I have read that the human eye makes automatic mathematical calculations in relation to our facial features. there is a specific ratio that we all recognise as beauty, because it is so semectrical. i thik the ratio is 1:1.8 i think pythagorus theory or something

mouth 1.8- nose 1
mouth 1- face width 1.8
etc

anyway back to the point, she was hot already.

Turts
;;D

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by thomas on Oct 24^th, 2006, 9:07am

Beauty is in the eye of the beer-holder. ;;D

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by aprilbee on Oct 24^th, 2006, 9:13am

Thanks! I have a 13 year old daughter and its tough on girls these days....she's extremely level headed and I'm so proud of her....but when I drop her off at school, its unbelievable what these girls wear to school....its an eye opening experience!

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 24^th, 2006, 2:34pm

This video has even generated an in-depth, 5 page discussion on the Canon forum that I'm a member of. It's amazing what a ton of makeup and some airbrushing will do (not to take away from the photographer who is a master at digital retouching).

'darlin

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by JeffB on Oct 24^th, 2006, 5:40pm

8 beers then maybe.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by alchemy on Oct 24^th, 2006, 6:09pm

i sat down and watched this with my 16 year old. She's at that age where they feel like they have to look like the models in the mags. It was an eye opener for her.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Kevin_M on Oct 24^th, 2006, 6:38pm

on 10/24/06 at 01:04:07, Turts wrote:

And an approximate hip-to-waist ratio of 0.7, with age though comes a lot of acceptance, I hope. ;;D
Age old question about symmetry, some guy Galios made a lot of headway struggling with it.

There is a preference for symmetry and our minds are attracted to and finely tuned to the detection of symmetry, as advertising knows. However, used in that way, it can produce a bias in perception, observational selection effects -- filtering of physical reality by unrecognized biases.
If a pest control company manufactured mousetraps that are three inches long, they might conclude that all mice are shorter than three inches because all the mice trapped would be of that length. A funneling of solutions to fit biased perception.

Whatever affect it may have, young girls could also think that anyone with average looks can aspire to be a model these days.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Jonny on Oct 24^th, 2006, 6:52pm

What woman in this thread can say that they wear NO make up AT ALL?

Not starting a pissing match, but com'on......its not like you hit the streets without styling the hair and applying the make up...right?

The airbrushing?......just making the product their selling sell I guess.

*Now applying the flame gel and suit*.....LMAO :P

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by purpleydog on Oct 24^th, 2006, 7:40pm

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6df03b3127cce96982008744400000005108AYs3LJs5cNz

This is me after work talking to someone online. The only difference between this picture, and me at work is what I wear. I wash my hair, comb it, and out the door I go. I don't wear make-up, because I can't stand it. I only wear it for special occasions.

Milwaukee, with Broomie:

http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b6d936b3127cce8b51559c0f3c00000016108AYs3LJs5cNz

One thing for sure, I'll never be pencil thin like a model. They'd probably break the software using it on me, LOL.

So, I'm one, Jonny, LOL. I kinda liked you in the blue eyeshadow. ;;D But, I noticed since you got yer hair cut, no more make up (hint hint, anyone with photoshop? )

edited to add:

Pepper, that was an excellent video, and I will show it to one of my co-workers, who has a teenage daughter. Thanks for posting it!

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Kevin_M on Oct 24^th, 2006, 8:06pm

I love morning hair on women... as long as she don't start eating my hand cream.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Jonny on Oct 24^th, 2006, 8:09pm

on 10/24/06 at 20:06:07, Kevin_M wrote:

I love morning hair on women... as long as she don't start eating my hand cream.

ROTFFLMMFAO X 300!!!!! ;;D

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by purpleydog on Oct 24^th, 2006, 8:20pm

on 10/24/06 at 20:06:07, Kevin_M wrote:

I love morning hair on women... as long as she don't start eating my hand cream.

Ummm.... errr....uhhhm.

Nope, I'm not gonna say it. :-X

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Jimi on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:24pm

Oh Chris is feeling kinda froggy tonight. But thats good. She been kinda pissy lately. :-*

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Peppermint on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:28pm

on 10/24/06 at 18:52:34, Jonny wrote:

Well Jonny, since you asked...
I do.
I go to work MOST everyday without doing make-up. Obviously I do brush my hair, I don't want to look like a nutjob off the street and have security tackle me. Considering I work on 57th & 5th avenue, I MUST be tempting the beauty police, right? And I sometimes I get the snippy stares from the Chanel ladies upstairs. Tough.

Unless I have a special occasion, or go on vacation ;D, I usually don't wear much, if any makeup, at all. I just can't stand "having to" look like everybody else. Plus the fact that I am mega-short on time almost always. My thing is, if you don't like me, don't look. If you want to flip the script, I know a few men who could use some airbrushing but I think I have more substance than that, and I think they do too. That's my point.

Trying to sell your product is fine and dandy, but tell that to a teenage girl that is anorexic, or bulimic, like a few women I see throwing up in my office bathroom, or getting plastic surgery at the age of 17 to look like a model type. Most young women have no idea that what they see in media is cut, paste, brushed, touched-up, and an unrealistic image, and the extent of it. There are many beautiful women in the world blessed with the perfect looks and body, but everyone has their own flaws as well as their own individual beauty.

This isn't "guilding the lily" - wearing makeup. It's more about cutting the petals up to make it look like a tulip.

:P Pep

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Charlotte on Oct 24^th, 2006, 10:52pm

I don't wear makeup. But I do dye my silver hair sometimes. The base makeup turned orange with the sweating, in the early '60's, and I've always needed to splash my face with cold water.

When I feel like crap, I don't care about beauty. When I feel good, I depend on my smile.

c

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Jimi on Oct 24^th, 2006, 11:27pm

Quote:

its not like you hit the streets without styling the hair and applying the make up...right?

Hmmmmm no, not right. I never do. Oh you mean wimmens, nevermind. Nodding back off now. Goodnight all.

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by Mr. Happy on Oct 25^th, 2006, 1:10am

on 10/24/06 at 22:28:10, Peppermint wrote:

It's more about cutting the petals up to make it look like a tulip.

Cheesus, Pep....you definately have a way with words.
Sure got MY attention.
Hap

Title: Re: Interesting take on "beauty"
Post by AussieBrian on Oct 25^th, 2006, 7:55am

It's long amused me that fashion models are referred to as clothes-horses, but going by so many recent pictures they remind me far more of clothes-lines.

But now I tell you something free for nothing about how simple and shallow is the entire industry and how easy it is to manipulate a photograph. It's one of my party tricks and shows just how easily you've been manipulated.

Flick through any magazine and find a head-and-shoulders picture of a smiling model advertising anything from lipstick to shampoo, moisturiser or a favourite brand of tampons.

Does her smile look sincere? Of course it does. Cost them a million bucks.

Now consider that given two seconds with a black pen I can remove a certain photographic enhancement which renders an entirely different picture, and absolutely stuns people at parties because her smile is patently so false.

Tomorrow I'll tell you how easily it's done, and it simply goes to show how real are Peppy's concerns.