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(Message started by: Jonny on Oct 17^th, 2006, 5:37pm)

Title: How young is to young?
Post by Jonny on Oct 17^th, 2006, 5:37pm

I say this is just plain criminal!!!!!

http://www.consumptionjunction.com/downloadsnew/cj_61943.wmv

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Yorky on Oct 17^th, 2006, 5:43pm

just gobsmacked?
the kids not hold enough to hold a fishing rod!

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by maffumatt on Oct 17^th, 2006, 5:44pm

I'd say it was to young. I had to wait until I was 9 to get my first one.

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by thomas on Oct 17^th, 2006, 5:52pm

Seems to me he's safer than if he was with a Catholic priest. :-X

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Lizzie2 on Oct 17^th, 2006, 6:06pm

:-/

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by M.R. on Oct 17^th, 2006, 6:16pm

Open the "Check your neighborhood' post". That is criminal. But,ya, I had to wait until I was 9, also. But I also doubt that that kid's life was negatively affected.

Mike

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by LeLimey on Oct 17^th, 2006, 6:24pm

I wonder if these same parents would let him fry eggs or cook on a BBQ or build a fire..
Its not teaching a child to shoot I have a problem with. It's putting a gun in the hand of a child who has no concept of what it is, what he is doing and that it needs to be treated responsibly.
In fairness though, hopefully this is just one of those home videos by usually responsible parents who just want their kids to be able to say they were firing guns before they could write or some such statement. ::)

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Jonny on Oct 17^th, 2006, 7:07pm

on 10/17/06 at 18:24:07, LeLimey wrote:

In fairness though, hopefully this is just one of those home videos by usually responsible parents who just want their kids to be able to say they were firing guns before they could write or some such statement. ::)

If that were the case the father would not have to load he gun a second time and make the kid shoot it again.

This guy should be in jail for indangering a child, in my opinion!!

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Bethany1 on Oct 17^th, 2006, 7:08pm

ummm... wtf? he's like 2 if that! that would be the day.......

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Sean_C on Oct 17^th, 2006, 7:24pm

Seeing that the child is going to assume its a toy from this point forward, I hope his father locks his guns up when he's not using them. For his childs safety and everybody elses. :-/

Sean.................................

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Jonny on Oct 17^th, 2006, 8:31pm

More than likely that kid will hold that gun many more times before he can even lift it to shoot it himself.....its fucking sad, real sad!!

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by alchemy on Oct 17^th, 2006, 8:43pm

and we wonder why kids take guns to school

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Sean_C on Oct 17^th, 2006, 8:59pm

on 10/17/06 at 20:31:10, Jonny wrote:

More than likely that kid will hold that gun many more times before he can even lift it to shoot it himself.....its fucking sad, real sad!!

I think so too, but I'm not the kids old man.

His neck looked a little red to me. ;;D

Sean.....................................

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by BB on Oct 17^th, 2006, 10:13pm

That is definitely too young, he is barely able to run.

What concerns me is mother is there too apparently and she had not tried to stop it !

Mothers should know better. There is absolutely nothing to gain from teaching a child that young how to shoot a real gun, loaded !

The poor child was rather uncomfortable, he broke off to run to mummy as soon as dad released his hold! Poor kid ! Imagine what else he would be forced to learn despite his tender age.

Sad !

Annette

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by The mad viking on Oct 18^th, 2006, 1:14am

Plain MADNESS if you ask me

Just insane

Svenn

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by georgej on Oct 18^th, 2006, 1:23am

Way too young.

I wouldn't allow any kid who hasn't taken a hunter safety course to handle a firearm, let alone fire one. Here, you can take the course when you're twelve years old. That's a reasonable age to introduce a kid to the use of firearms as far as I'm concerned.

No way. That is nuts.

Best,

George

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Giovanni on Oct 18^th, 2006, 4:39am

on 10/17/06 at 19:24:02, Sean_C wrote:

You're absolutely right. It's a toy now :-/

I've been shooting all of my life and would never dream of doing something like this.

John

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 18^th, 2006, 7:48am

For those of us on ancient dial-up, what is the video about? I can *assume* that it's about a dada giving a little one a gun?

'darlin

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by john_d on Oct 18^th, 2006, 7:53am

The kid was just pulling the trigger while his dad held it. If in addition to this his dad was teaching him not to respect the firearm or worse, other human beings- it would definitely be a problem. If it were being treated like a toy the kid would not be wearing safety gear.

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by sailpappy on Oct 18^th, 2006, 8:02am

:-/ Given the fact that kids don't develope the ability use reason in their thinking until around the age of 7.
This is just wrong on all levels!
Pappy

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by aprilbee on Oct 18^th, 2006, 9:07am

Well at least Daddy had the good sense to protect his BABY'S ears.... ::)

Geez.....sad sad sad :'(

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by roy21302 on Oct 18^th, 2006, 11:27am

This is just so sad to see, I think I even heard his Mums voice off screen, even sadder!! :-X

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Jonny on Oct 18^th, 2006, 8:38pm

on 10/18/06 at 07:48:44, deltadarlin wrote:

For those of us on ancient dial-up, what is the video about? I can *assume* that it's about a dada giving a little one a gun?

'darlin

Well, its a father holding the hands of what seems to be a two year old boy on the grip of a semi-automatic pistol. the childs face is about one foot from the back of the gun as the shells discharge and the kid has no eye gear on.

While firing the second clip a shell discharges and hits the mother (who is filming) and she says "Ow".....shes about four feet away.

The kid does have ear protection on, but will that matter if the kid is blinded?

on 10/18/06 at 07:53:46, john_d wrote:

The kid was just pulling the trigger while his dad held it.

John, I love ya dude, but if thats all you saw in that video its really sad, man!!

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Dragnlance on Oct 19^th, 2006, 10:12am

You callin me a criminal boy??? ;;D

Actually I was about the same age when I first started shooting. The key is respect and education. This is not a toy, and life is not to be wasted.

It is up to the parents to teach these kinds of values and stress them. Punishment when the kids try to use the firearm for uses that are not acceptable.

I am 43, and bought my first rifle when I was 13. Never once have I used it in any manner against another human. This is due to the way I was taught.

I see nothing wrong with the kid learning to shoot early.

Dragn

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Richr8 on Oct 19^th, 2006, 12:13pm

Hmmm! I think I started taking my boys shooting at 10 or so. IMO, that's early enough. This is insane,

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Tiannia on Oct 19^th, 2006, 12:38pm

OK we have guns in the house. Each of the kids have seen dad and I take them apart and clean them and put them back together. They know what each of the pieces are called and such.

The only "gun" that they have shot. Daughter is 9 and son is 4. Is the pellet gun that dad has shown them how to shoot and hold. It is like a light weight shot gun. I was 9 when I went hunting with my dad and learned how to shot a pistol, rifle and 30.6

Our guns are locked up and the kids know that they are not toys that they can kill people if they try to play with then or even tough one without dad or I with them.

This dad should be made to see that this is screwed.

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by seasonalboomer on Oct 19^th, 2006, 12:49pm

Future episodes will be:

See little Billy ride on top of the push lawn mower while Dadddy pushes

See little Billy drive daddy's pick-up

See little Billy do one of Daddy's tequila shots

See little Billy smack his Mommy just like Dad does

See little Billy flip off the State Trooper

so cute..................

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by john_d on Oct 19^th, 2006, 12:53pm

on 10/18/06 at 20:38:36, Jonny wrote:

John, I love ya dude, but if thats all you saw in that video its really sad, man!!

I will give you that I would not choose to introduce my children to my firearms. But then I don't have either children or firearms. But my fathers side of the family is all rural and it's just different out there. For my cousins, firearms are a part of life but then so is respect and good manners.

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by deltadarlin on Oct 19^th, 2006, 2:07pm

Damn, I had to log in just sos I cud post. I remember being *little*, and I know I wasn't but 3 or maybe even 4 (if that old). Daddy would help me hold the gun and I'd sight and pull the trigger. I never wore protective eye gear and didn't start wearing protective ear gear until the past few years. I was raised around guns, daddy kept a loaded pistol in his desk drawer and before we got the gun case, there were usually several loaded rifles in the closet. And you can bet your sweet a$$ that there was no amount of *bribery* that could have enticed me to touch one of his guns.

Most of the guns that I shoot/have shot eject the empty casings to the side, not the back.

'darlin

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Ronny on Oct 19^th, 2006, 4:48pm

That is plain sick.

Next it'll kill his baby sister and say "look daddy: bullseye"

Sicko's

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Charlie on Oct 19^th, 2006, 7:44pm

It flies in the face of common sense. This is good for whom here?

We had guns all over the house; rarely picked them up or even discussed the things until I was 12 or so.

The thing here is that this kid will see them used on TV and how "sanitary" their use seems. The guy's an idiot.

Charlie

Title: Re: How young is to young?
Post by Sean_C on Oct 19^th, 2006, 8:28pm

on 10/19/06 at 12:49:13, seasonalboomer wrote:

LMAO we're speculating here but probably not far off [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]