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(Message started by: Superpain on Sep 12^th, 2006, 4:16pm)

Title: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today?
Post by Superpain on Sep 12^th, 2006, 4:16pm

Something for your consideration.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5946593973848835726&hl=en

I've seen the Alex Jones conspiracy movie about all of this, but he's pretty extreme and has to be taken with a grain of salt. But after watching this, the only doubt I have left is in our government. I'm amazed that after all this time the propaganda campaign that has taken place in this country and even around the world has brainwashed us all to the point of not even remembering what truly happened... On that day it was obvious to everyone there, all of those reporting it and to anyone with intelligence who saw it.
I don't know to what extent anyone had to do with anything concerning 9/11. I'm sure Bin Laden isn't innocent... But to what extent are others in power in our own country involved? And will we ever know?
This makes me feel sick. The realization that we actually know so little, and that is the way it's supposed to be is nothing short of depressing.
This film is 1:20 long. Watch it. How do you feel?

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by JeffB on Sep 12^th, 2006, 4:39pm

I feel I don't have to sit through an hour and a half of conspiracy theories to come to the conclusion THAT A LOT OF COUNTRIES IN THE MIDDLE EAST HATE US. Next story that comes out will most likely be that Bush himself flew those planes and parachuted or was beamed off before they hit.

Art Bell fan???

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by JeffB on Sep 12^th, 2006, 4:40pm

BTW, Sorry you feel like you're a cow.

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Ghost on Sep 12^th, 2006, 4:46pm

Look hard enough and I bet I can show a pattern of government coverups and finiancial scandals that lead to your birth are you really an alien?
Probably not but I bet I could make a convincing argument given a couple years to search for the proof.
If you believe this that is your choice but please don't ask me to. after the first few minuites it just got old trying to link cuba kennedy and 40ish yo data and irrelevant stuff to make a point got old fast.

Hope you stay PF and enjoy your day.

Mike

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Superpain on Sep 12^th, 2006, 5:08pm

I can understand that. I've always felt the same way. Conspiracy theories are just that...
However, I just finished the film. My first post I was 2/3 through it... And I'm left with some serious doubt about ALOT of the official accounts of the incident(s).
Don't watch it if you don't want to... But I'd really like to know what you think after considering all the questions posed if you were to actually watch it. It's easy to brush it off as a wacky conspiracy without watching it. Can you do the same after seriously considering the information put forth in the film? I guess you'd have to watch it to answer that... So...
If anyone does actually watch it; What do you think?

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by JeffB on Sep 12^th, 2006, 5:16pm

on 09/12/06 at 16:46:57, Ghost wrote:

I bet the whole moon landing was a Hollywood job. And I bet with enough time I could make a hand full of people believe it.

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Superpain on Sep 12^th, 2006, 5:28pm

I mean did you even know that George Bush has a brother named Marvin? That was among other things head of security for WTC? That's not very publicized...
What happened to all the gold underneath?
When is the last time you could make a cell phone call from an airplane at 32,000 feet? The technology didn't come along till '04!
What happened to the airplane that supposedly flew into the pentagon? And why was the army able to idenify all but 4 pentagon personel, but no passengers?
Why was there absolutely no signs of any bodies in Pennsylvania? Not one drop of blood found at the site...

Question after question. How do you reconcile that? The demolition explosions were heard and seen by everyone in or around the towers. You can even see the explosions shooting out well below the collapse as the buildings fell on almost every piece of video. Why after weeks of heavy security were the bomb sniffing dogs pulled out of WTC during strange evacuation drills shortly before 9/11?

Seriously, how after actually watching this are we supposed to think shit went down like they said it did!!!?

Please, someone tell me how all of this info can be a lie and that what the government is telling us is true.
I want to believe it.
I've got to go eat my alfalfa now. :-/

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Charlie on Sep 12^th, 2006, 6:27pm

Quote:

Art Bell fan???

What happened to him? What loon he is.

Oh, yeah. WTC bombing is a way to prime their pump. Crashed ufos at Roswell, crop circles, and now WTC. You gotta love conspiracy nitwits. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/remote.gif

Charlie

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by maffumatt on Sep 12^th, 2006, 6:31pm

moooo

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by ivanov on Sep 12^th, 2006, 7:37pm

Good article on the conspiracy theories---
Draw your own conclusions -

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/14723997/

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Jonny on Sep 12^th, 2006, 7:54pm

http://wtc.nist.gov/pubs/factsheets/faqs_8_2006.htm

Video evidence also showed unambiguously that the collapse progressed from the top to the bottom, and there was no evidence (collected by NIST, or by the New York Police Department, the Port Authority Police Department or the Fire Department of New York) of any blast or explosions in the region below the impact and fire floors as the top building sections (including and above the 98th floor in WTC 1 and the 82nd floor in WTC 2) began their downward movement upon collapse initiation.

In summary, NIST found no corroborating evidence for alternative hypotheses suggesting that the WTC towers were brought down by controlled demolition using explosives planted prior to Sept. 11, 2001. NIST also did not find any evidence that missiles were fired at or hit the towers. Instead, photographs and videos from several angles clearly show that the collapse initiated at the fire and impact floors and that the collapse progressed from the initiating floors downward until the dust clouds obscured the view.

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Katherinecm on Sep 12^th, 2006, 8:28pm

http://www.911myths.com/

Modified to add: This makes me very angry. This film is a bunch of quotes taken out of context, unscientific "facts," and total BS. Did you think to research the "facts" presented in the film before you publicized such propoganda?

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by brewcrew on Sep 12^th, 2006, 8:37pm

Obfuscation starts with questions. Questions, questions, and more questions. Ask the right series of questions and people really start to wonder what the truth is. This is how lawyers work.

I tend to gravitate toward people who attempt to provide answers. 'Cause if you don't provide answers, you're part of the problem, not the solution.

Title: Re: We are all cattle. Have you had your hay today
Post by Superpain on Sep 12^th, 2006, 9:11pm

Well, I feel a little better I guess.
The lawyer thing puts into context.