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(Message started by: zwibbs/Scott on Aug 25th, 2006, 7:29am)
Title: Mayor Nagin
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Aug 25th, 2006, 7:29am
He will be on 60 Minutes this Sunday....story on New Orleans----When he is pressed by the interviewer about why so many cars are still abandoned...The good Mayor responds with..." Hey you guys have a hole in New York City , and they haven't fixed it yet..." ,,,What an as*hole---he must be impeached-NOW.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jimmy_B. on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:15am
Link to story:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/24/60minutes/main1933092.shtml

His actual quote: "That’s alright. You guys in New York can’t get a hole in the ground fixed and it’s five years later. So let’s be fair.".

A lot of politicians screwed up in response to the Hurricane...New Orleans residents need to decide on their mayor.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by deltadarlin on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:36am
He was just re-elected by people who aren't living there and have no intentions of going back there to live.  Makes me wonder how many dead folks voted?

chocolate anyone?

'darlin
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:44am

Quote:
he must be impeached-NOW


Let New Orleans people decide that. Not New Yorkers or anyone else.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:49am
Mayor Nagin is just about the ONLY politician that speaks his mind.  He has a good point, when it comes to getting shit done, state and federal government are about the slowest and worst.

Nagin for president!!!!!

I love that guy.  He is a breath of fresh air in a sea of corruptness and ineptitude.

B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by maffumatt on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:28am

on 08/25/06 at 08:15:06, Jimmy_B. wrote:
.New Orleans residents need to decide on their mayor.


They did.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 25th, 2006, 2:24pm

Quote:
I love that guy.  He is a breath of fresh air in a sea of corruptness and ineptitude.


Excepting of course that he has absolutely no balls to take the reigns himself and get it done. Easy to blame everyone else.


Quote:
They did.


Yes they did and that is that.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by brewcrew on Aug 25th, 2006, 2:39pm

on 08/25/06 at 08:49:18, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
I love that guy.  He is a breath of fresh air in a sea of corruptness and ineptitude.

Whatever. One need only remember the pictures of hundreds of school buses up to their windows in water to realize how much of that ineptitude was his.

Go ahead and love him. It'll help balance the cosmic scale.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 25th, 2006, 2:49pm

Quote:
He is a breath of fresh air


More like a breath of HOT air.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by JeffB on Aug 25th, 2006, 2:54pm
Nagin is an idiot.
He did nothing but blame others.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Tom K on Aug 25th, 2006, 3:49pm
Long live the Mayor of Chocolate City... :-/
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by maffumatt on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:06pm

on 08/25/06 at 14:39:23, brewcrew wrote:
Whatever. One need only remember the pictures of hundreds of school buses up to their windows in water to realize how much of that ineptitude was his.

http://worldnetdaily.com/images2/KatrinaBuses2.jpg
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:15pm
Please allow me, on behalf of the good people of New Orleans and surrounding Parishes, my most humble apology.

I don't know what is worse...the storm, which we had no control over or this idiot by the choice of the enlightened voters...?

I don't know if this shows up on camera but I saw the mayor up close the other day. If you look real close you can see pieces of corn and peanuts on the surface of his head.

Steve G
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by tanner on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:25pm

on 08/25/06 at 08:49:18, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:


Nagin for president!!!!!

I love that guy.  He is a breath of fresh air in a sea of corruptness and ineptitude.

B$


 Bman, whatever you are smokin send me some ! Oh, that's right you live out there in liberty cap heaven ;;D you don't need to smoke anything to thoroughly distort reality 8)
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:40pm
http://www.imnotchocolate.com/
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by brewcrew on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:45pm

on 08/25/06 at 17:40:56, Jonny wrote:
http://www.imnotchocolate.com/

Oh, my...such a defiling of one of my favorite movies.

"We are the music makers, and we are the dreamers of dreams."

Funny as hell, though. ;;D
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Sandy_C on Aug 25th, 2006, 5:46pm

on 08/25/06 at 08:49:18, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Mayor Nagin is just about the ONLY politician that speaks his mind.  He has a good point, when it comes to getting shit done, state and federal government are about the slowest and worst.

Nagin for president!!!!!

I love that guy.  He is a breath of fresh air in a sea of corruptness and ineptitude.

B$



I'm not saying that the federal and state governments weren't the slowest, but the picture of all of those buses, drowned in water, that could have been used to evacuate people, just sitting there, tells me that the good Mayor didn't have it together - intentionally, or innocently.

But, he should have, and he didn't.  Nuff said.

Sandy
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:15pm
At least Mayor Nagin had an idea that the levees might break.  The President had no idea.

80% of the city evacuated.  Federal emergency was requested and an evacuation issued 2 days before the storm.  2 days AFTER the storm the Federal government was still clueless.

You are right, Mayor Nagin may have not done a perfect job, but at least he was noticably smarter and more prepared than the federal government and the Bush administration.

You guys are just pissed off that while Nagin was working, Bush was doing press conferences about stuff he admittedly had no idea about.

Nagin for President!!!!
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:24pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:15:06, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
80% of the city evacuated.Really?  Federal emergency was requested and an evacuation issued 2 days before the storm.Where were the buses?  2 days AFTER the storm the Federal government was still clueless.

You are right, Mayor Nagin may have not done a perfect jobHiding at on the top floor of a hotel crying thinking the gangs were coming for him, but at least he was noticably smarter and more prepared than the federal governmentWhere were the buses? and the Bush administration.

You guys are just pissed off that while Nagin was workingHiding on the top floor crying, Bush was doing press conferences about stuff he admittedly had no idea about.Hes not the man on the front line, Nagin is

Nagin for President!!!!Hes not fit for dog catcher
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by vig on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:34pm
You get what you vote for....


:-X
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:37pm
Thats funny thats all you guys talk about.  Theres a picture of the buses if you scroll up a little bit, Jonny.

Yes, even though those buses were sitting there, Nagin still did a markedly better job at having a clue than anyone in the federal government.  
Thats SAD, huh?

The national guard didnt even get there for 5 days.  Walmart sent trucks in the the next day and the day after, but the federal government was still planning a committee to decide if they should do something.
Why did it take Walmart 1 day to get shit happening, but it took the Feds over 5 days?

So while you poo-poo Nagin for not using force to get drug dealers and poor people out of the area, at least it took him less than 4 days to realize there was a disaster.
I'd take Nagin over Bush any day of the week.  

Is there any other information you have about it except for a picture of buses?
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:41pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:37:03, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
at least it took him less than 4 days to realize there was a disaster. I guess, just look at the buses

Is there any other information you have about it except for a picture of buses? I didnt post the pic of the buses, Nagin did!
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Paul98 on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:43pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:15:06, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
At least Mayor Nagin had an idea that the levees might break.  The President had no idea.

80% of the city evacuated.  Federal emergency was requested and an evacuation issued 2 days before the storm.  2 days AFTER the storm the Federal government was still clueless.

You are right, Mayor Nagin may have not done a perfect job, but at least he was noticably smarter and more prepared than the federal government and the Bush administration.

You guys are just pissed off that while Nagin was working, Bush was doing press conferences about stuff he admittedly had no idea about.

Nagin for President!!!!
B$


Sunday Aug. 28th 2005 At 9:30 AM CDT (1430 UTC), President Bush called Governor Blanco, and said that he was, "very concerned about the storm’s impact," and urged Blanco and Nagin to order a mandatory evacuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Hurricane_Katrina#Monday.2C_August_29.2C_2005

Blanco and Nagin are and were inept.

-P.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:44pm
So the answer is no, you have no other information or knowledge about anything except for the flooded buses?
You dont have to beat around the bush trying to hide it, you can just admit it.

Its cool
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:50pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:43:47, Paul98 wrote:
Sunday Aug. 28th 2005 At 9:30 AM CDT (1430 UTC), President Bush called Governor Blanco, and said that he was, "very concerned about the storm’s impact," and urged Blanco and Nagin to order a mandatory evacuation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Hurricane_Katrina#Monday.2C_August_29.2C_2005

Blanco and Nagin are and were inept.

-P.


Blanco requested a state of emergency on Aug 26.  That was Bush's response.....2 days later......that it might be a good idea to evacuate.
Bush was a real fart smeller, huh?  
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:52pm
Nagin, a self-styled maverick who has been sometimes criticized for his glib or angry comments, pledged to improve communication in his second term.

``My administration pledges to be better listeners, precise and consistent communicators of progress. We're talking about miracles here,'' he said, grinning.

Nagin thanked President Bush and Gov. Kathleen Blanco, who both at times were his adversaries in Katrina's aftermath.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by brewcrew on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:55pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:44:55, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
So the answer is no, you have no other information or knowledge about anything except for the flooded buses?
You dont have to beat around the bush trying to hide it, you can just admit it.

Its cool
B$

And it's cool if you want to hitch your wagon to this boob of a horse. That's what makes America great - you can vote for whoever you want. The rest of America sees this guy for what he is. No need to spend time proving it.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 8:57pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:55:03, brewcrew wrote:
No need to spend time proving it.


Fucking classic!!!! .....LOL ;;D
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Paul98 on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:04pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:50:57, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Blanco requested a state of emergency on Aug 26.  That was Bush's response.....2 days later......that it might be a good idea to evacuate.
Bush was a real fart smeller, huh?  
B$


Blanco had to request help from the federal gov. before Bush could legaly respond  (Stafford Act)  Blanco and Nigen waited to long and also didn't order mandatory evacuation.  

-P.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:17pm
https://secure.imaginesoftware.net/portal.aspx?tabid=21

Gonna give, Brian?
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Tom K on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:21pm

on 08/25/06 at 20:50:57, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Blanco requested a state of emergency on Aug 26.  That was Bush's response.....2 days later......that it might be a good idea to evacuate.
Bush was a real fart smeller, huh?  
B$


Maybe you need to read further....

Quote:
Saturday, August 27, 2005
By 5:00 AM EDT (0900 UTC), Hurricane Katrina reached Category 3 intensity.

At 9:00 AM CDT (0200 UTC), officials in St. Charles Parish, Louisiana, St. Tammany Parish, and Plaquemines Parish ordered a mandatory evacuation of all of their residents. Jefferson Parish and St. Bernard Parish ordered voluntary evacuations, recommending that all residents evacuate, particularly those living in lower areas. Jefferson Parish officials did declare a mandatory evacuation for the coastal areas of Grand isle, Crown Point, Lafitte, and Barataria. Tolls were suspended on the Lake Pontchartrain Causeway as well as the Crescent City Connection, to speed up the evacuation process.

At 5:00 PM EDT (2100 UTC), New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin announced a state of emergency and a called for a voluntary evacuation. He added that he would stick with the state's evacuation plan and not order a mandatory evacuation until 30 hours before the expected landfall. This would allow those residents in low-lying surrounding parishes to leave first and avoid gridlocked escape routes. However, he did recommend that residents of low-lying areas of the city, such as Algiers and the 9th Ward, get a head start. Nagin said the city would open the Superdome as a shelter of last resort for evacuees with special needs. He advised anyone planning to stay there to bring their own food, drinks and other comforts such as folding chairs, as if planning to go camping. "No weapons, no large items, and bring small quanties of food for three or four days, to be safe," he said.[7]


Map of Louisiana parishes eligible for assistance.Governor Blanco sends a letter to President George W. Bush asking him to declare a major disaster for the State of Louisiana, in order to release federal assistance.[8]

In response to Governor Blanco's request, President Bush declared a federal state of emergency in Louisiana under the authority of the Stafford Act, which provided a, "means of assistance by the Federal Government to State and local governments in carrying out their responsibilities to alleviate the suffering and damage which result from such disasters,..."[9]

The emergency declaration provided for federal assistance and funding, as well as assigned, by law, the responsibility for coordinating relief efforts with those government bodies and relief agencies which agree to operate under his advice or direction, to the FEMA federal coordinating officer (FCO).[10] It also provided for military assets and personnel to be deployed in relief and support operations, although the Posse Comitatus Act imposes strict limitations on the use of Active Duty soldiers in law enforcement.
That night, National Hurricane Center director Max Mayfield briefed President Bush, Governor Blanco, Governor Haley Barbour of Mississippi, and Mayor Nagin on the status of Hurricane Katrina.[6]
Sunday, August 28, 2005
Just after midnight, at 12:40 AM CDT (0540 UTC), Hurricane Katrina reached Category 4 intensity with 145 mph winds. By 7:00 AM CDT (1200 UTC), it was a Category 5 storm, with maximum sustained winds of 175 mph (280 km/h), gusts up to 215 mph (344 km/h) and a central pressure of 902 mbar.

At 9:30 AM CDT (1430 UTC), President Bush called Governor Blanco, and said that he was, "very concerned about the storm’s impact," and urged Blanco and Nagin to order a mandatory evacuation. The Mayor and Governor then announced the mandatory evacuation at roughly 10 AM CDT (1500 UTC). "We're facing the storm most of us have feared," Nagin told the early-morning news conference, with the governor at his side. Katrina was expected to make landfall overnight.[11] Shortly after the meeting, at 10:00 AM CDT (1500 UTC), the National Weather Service issued a bulletin predicting, "devastating," damage.

At 12:00 PM CDT (1700 UTC), the Louisiana Superdome was opened as a, "refuge of last resort," for those residents that were unable to obtain safe transport out of the city.

President Bush declared a state of emergency in Alabama and Mississippi,[12][13] and a major disaster in Florida,[14] under the authority of the Stafford Act.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Hurricane_Katrina#Monday.2C_August_29.2C_2005
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:25pm
Late Saturday night, before the storm, a local news reporter was interviewing the Mayor in the studio asking if he was calling for an evacuation of the City.  Ray Ray danced around the question repeatedly saying that he was currently in discussions with his legal staff.  

Shortly after, we received a recorded message on the phone from St. Tammany Parish President ordering us to evacuate.

Mid-Sunday morning Ray Ray finally pulled the trigger. It was obvious he had no idea as to how to get people out of the City when he identified locations within the City as evacuation centers.

Everyone knew that the levees were going to fail and I can't believe that Ray Ray was ignorant of what was going to happen.  He was inept then and continues to suffer from this flaw.

Trouble is we continue to suffer while he alienates the kind people of this Nation and continues to exhibit classical symptoms of Projection.

Steve G
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 9:37pm

on 08/25/06 at 21:25:39, stevegeebe wrote:
Mid-Sunday morning Ray Ray finally pulled the trigger. It was obvious he had no idea as to how to get people out of the City when he identified locations within the City as evacuation centers.


Oh yeah, thats who we want for president.....NOT!!!!

At 12:00 PM CDT (1700 UTC), the Louisiana Superdome was opened as a, "refuge of last resort," for those residents that were unable to obtain safe transport out of the city.

Safe transport?.....where were the buses?

Yup, thats my President........ [smiley=hurl.gif]
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by brewcrew on Aug 25th, 2006, 10:14pm
Most Americans think New Orleans Mayor Ray Nagin is pitching brickbats from a glass house, a new Zogby International telephone poll shows.

Just as Nagin comes in for heavy criticism for saying New York City still has “a hole in the ground” in Lower Manhattan five years after the terrorist attacks there leveled the twin towers of the World Trade Center, a Zogby poll shows 81% of Adults nationwide think his own city will need at least five years to recover from Hurricane Katrina – or may never recover at all. Tuesday marks the first anniversary of Katrina’s landfall along the U.S. Gulf Coast.

The nationwide survey of 1,108 adults was conducted Aug. 22–25, 2006, and carries a margin of error of +/– 3.0 percentage points.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 10:19pm
Nagin is a complete fuck up and brian dick is playing us like a troll would do!

Thats MHO
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by brewcrew on Aug 25th, 2006, 10:21pm
10-4. I'm done.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Jonny on Aug 25th, 2006, 10:24pm

on 08/25/06 at 22:21:55, brewcrew wrote:
10-4. I'm done.


Ditto, punching out!
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 25th, 2006, 10:41pm

Quote:
Federal emergency was requested and an evacuation issued 2 days before the storm.


Was that his last request before he fled the city to Texas and abandoned everyone there?
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Charlie on Aug 25th, 2006, 11:34pm

Quote:
Nagin is an idiot.
He did nothing but blame others.


http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/cheesyrotfm.gif

Charlie
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 26th, 2006, 1:50am
Ha Ha, I knew it!!!!
It was only about 3 hours for Jonny to say I am troll after being asked a direct question.
Yer slippin, bro!!!!  


I agree, Blanco is a blithering idiot.  She is too busy being the victim to do much of anything.

All I said about Ray Nagin is he is a breath of fresh air.  He is a man who speaks his mind.  I say swear words all the time, I get angry too.  Sometimes when I get angry I swear.  Does that mean I shouldnt be president?

No matter if you think what Ray Nagin says are good ideas or bad ideas, you have to admit, he says what;s on his mind like a real person, not some polished politician.  Thats what I like about him.

But, i guess im just a troll.
Thats me, Burt the troll!!
;;D

B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 26th, 2006, 2:01am

on 08/25/06 at 21:25:39, stevegeebe wrote:
Everyone knew that the levees were going to fail and I can't believe that Ray Ray was ignorant of what was going to happen.  He was inept then and continues to suffer from this flaw.

Steve G


Bro, its funny you say that.  Guess who this quote is from:
"I don't think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees."

So, you could say that everyone BUT this person knew it.

Who was it?
B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 26th, 2006, 8:25am

Quote:
Does that mean I shouldnt be president?


No. There are many other reasons.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Paul98 on Aug 26th, 2006, 8:49am

on 08/26/06 at 01:50:29, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Ha Ha, I knew it!!!!
It was only about 3 hours for Jonny to say I am troll after being asked a direct question.
Yer slippin, bro!!!!  


I agree, Blanco is a blithering idiot.  She is too busy being the victim to do much of anything.

All I said about Ray Nagin is he is a breath of fresh air.  He is a man who speaks his mind.  I say swear words all the time, I get angry too.  Sometimes when I get angry I swear.  Does that mean I shouldnt be president?

No matter if you think what Ray Nagin says are good ideas or bad ideas, you have to admit, he says what;s on his mind like a real person, not some polished politician.  Thats what I like about him.

But, i guess im just a troll.
Thats me, Burt the troll!!
;;D

B$


Charles Manson spoke his mind too.  What's your point?

-P.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 26th, 2006, 9:07am
Every Administration since the levee failure of 65 (Hurricane Betsy) was aware of the potential disaster and massive flooding should a Hurricane hit New Orleans.

The political will to initiate a long term solution to the obvious was not present in the national and local leadership since then. A legacy of dirt mounds and sheet piles is just not sexy enough...so we all rolled the dice and turned away. We are so temporary in our thinking.

I have no problem with being outspoken and blunt facts being expressed from leadership. It is refreshing and a welcome change from the spine-less jackasses who seem drawn to politics.

But when this is not linked to what is exemplified in your  behavior than it comes across as something worse and not needed at this crucial juncture.  He reminds me of a petulent child who blames others and can't accept justifiable criticism.

Pick up a hammer and nail Ray Ray and show us that you know how to do something else other than bitching.

Steve G
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BarbaraD on Aug 26th, 2006, 10:24am
Actually, he wasn't any more asinine that Barbara Bush's remark about most of the displaced people weren't working anyhow, so we were just happy as hell to welcome them to the Texas welfare rolls.

And I agree Steve -- he's like a child who's in over his head. Action talks and BS walks....

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by chewy on Aug 26th, 2006, 10:32am
Nagin would do himself a great service if he would cut his own tongue out.

He'd still be incompetant but at least he wouldn't be verbally proving it over and over again.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 26th, 2006, 11:36am

on 08/26/06 at 08:49:20, Paul98 wrote:
Charles Manson spoke his mind too.  What's your point?

-P.


Scroll up, read reply #39.
(the same one you quoted)

B$
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Callico_Kid on Aug 27th, 2006, 12:49am
As one of the many who worked extremely hard trying to bring relief materials to the gulf coast immediately after the storm please let me set a couple of things straight about Ray Nagin.

!)  FEMA was on the scene with over 700 TONS of relief supplies: food, water, ice, sanitary supplies and equipment, communications equipment, etc. , but were not ALLOWED by Mayor Nagin to deliver them to the Super Dome or elsewhere in the City of New Orleans because he "did not want the Super Dome to become a refuge."  He thought that if the supplies were there people would not have the incentive to leave the city.  It was 3 days before the materials were delivered, NOT because the Federal government dropped the ball, but because the Gov and the Mayor had to allow us to bring in the relief.

2)  Free transport for evacuating the city was offered by both Amtrack and Greyhound, but were turned away by Nagin because they weren't "needed".

3)  After the storm was over and the people were trying to find shelter FEMA was not allowed to put a trailer in one entire Parish, because the Parish did not want any trailers in it.  We were not allowed to bring in the relief.

4)  In the rest of the city of New Orleans a building permit had to be secured for EACH trailer FEMA set up.  Each permit took a minimum of one day to access.

5)  The news coverage of all of the trailers sitting in the mud in Hope AR and the blame that FEMA was given in the press about not taking care of the people in need was the result of the staging area in Baton Rouge being filled beyond capacity because of the delays caused by either the State or the City governments in providing the relief to the people.  The trailers in Hope were diverted there from Baton Rouge.

6)  When DOT lifted the emergency regulations that allowed us to drive beyond the normal hours of service it was because Mississippi and Alabama had achieved housing relief to 90% or more of the people in need.  Interestingly, the same day Nagin had a news conference in which he lambasted President Bush because there were only 2000 FEMA trailers in all of New Orleans.  I personally delivered over 80 trailers to the Gulf Coast area, but until after the emergency was lifted only 2 of them went to LA.  ALL of the others slated for LA were diverted to TX, AR, or MS because there was no room in the staging areas.

Please don't hold Ray Nagin up as one who did anything to take care of his people.  IMHO his actions were at the least incompetent and at the most criminal.

Jerry

BTW, There were far more people devastated, and far more destruction in MS and AL than in New Orleans and LA.  If you want to see real destruction go to Biloxi.  An apartment building a quarter of a mile from the gulf looks like it has three stories of parking garage because the storm surge pushed ALL of the structure on those three floors out.  All there is of those floors are the steel columns holding the rest of the building up.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Aug 27th, 2006, 6:37am
Guess where Ernesto may hit---later this week ? I sincerely hope not, but there is a chance according to NOAA.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by deltadarlin on Aug 27th, 2006, 10:55am
Look in the archives on the following websites and see what some locals think about Nagin.  

http://www.moongriffon.com/

http://www.forgotston.com/

http://www.thedeadpelican.com/

For those who are interested, EVERYONE dropped the ball here from Nagin on up to the Federal govt.  Nagin gets the brunt of this because it was HIS city that made the headlines.

Sister Senator Mary Landrieu made a comment shortly after the sh*t hit the fan, it was something like this, "They can't get the busdrivers to report on a regular work day".

Nagin is not looked upon kindly for his remarks.  Representative Peppi Bruneau (N.O.)  had this to say about Nagin's remarks, "I was shocked and embarrassed when I heard the mayor's flippant remarks," Bruneau wrote. "They were not only disgraceful, but uncaring.
..."This is not the first callous remark that the current mayor has made," said Bruneau, who never mentions Nagin by name, "and unfortunately, it will probably not be the last."

If nagin wants to blame someone for the recovery not being faster, all he has to do is look to our dear governor.  The money is there, sitting in a fund, but Blanco won't ask for it because she thinks we need more.

As an aside here, you keep hearing how bad N.O. is, what about Steve's homeplace?  I believe that he lived in St. Barnard parish?  What about the Mississippi Gulf Coast?  What about the other parishes that were devastated by Rita, St. Charles Parish, and others?  You know why you don't hear about them?  It's because those people are not whining about how bad everything is, not depending on the govt. to bail them out or *protect* them, but have grabbed themselves by the a$$ and are continuing to rebuild without being the apple of the press' eye.

Btw, ask someone who was in Baton Rouge at one of the staging areas why the Feds sat around with their thumbs up their a$$es.  You know why?  Because they didn't have *orders* to deploy.  

Ernesto?  There's always a *chance* that a tornado in the gulf will come toward Louisiana.  Although from the latest NOAA reports, Ernesto is predicted to make an eastward hook and hit the mid to north coast of Florida.

'darlin

ps  BMoneeTheMoneeMan, if you like Nagin so much, I'm sure we can convince him to take up residence in Oregon and maybe even run for gubner of your state.  Although, I can't for the life of me, understand why anyone who would want a gubner who likes to chew on shoe leather.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by maffumatt on Aug 27th, 2006, 11:16am
amazing isn't it, truth, what a breath of fresh air.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Tom K on Aug 27th, 2006, 12:53pm

on 08/27/06 at 00:49:19, Callico_Kid wrote:
As one of the many who worked extremely hard trying to bring relief materials to the gulf coast immediately after the storm please let me set a couple of things straight about Ray Nagin.

!)  FEMA was on the scene with over 700 TONS of relief supplies: food, water, ice, sanitary supplies and equipment, communications equipment, etc. , but were not ALLOWED by Mayor Nagin to deliver them to the Super Dome or elsewhere in the City of New Orleans because he "did not want the Super Dome to become a refuge."  He thought that if the supplies were there people would not have the incentive to leave the city.  It was 3 days before the materials were delivered, NOT because the Federal government dropped the ball, but because the Gov and the Mayor had to allow us to bring in the relief.

2)  Free transport for evacuating the city was offered by both Amtrack and Greyhound, but were turned away by Nagin because they weren't "needed".

3)  After the storm was over and the people were trying to find shelter FEMA was not allowed to put a trailer in one entire Parish, because the Parish did not want any trailers in it.  We were not allowed to bring in the relief.

4)  In the rest of the city of New Orleans a building permit had to be secured for EACH trailer FEMA set up.  Each permit took a minimum of one day to access.

5)  The news coverage of all of the trailers sitting in the mud in Hope AR and the blame that FEMA was given in the press about not taking care of the people in need was the result of the staging area in Baton Rouge being filled beyond capacity because of the delays caused by either the State or the City governments in providing the relief to the people.  The trailers in Hope were diverted there from Baton Rouge.

6)  When DOT lifted the emergency regulations that allowed us to drive beyond the normal hours of service it was because Mississippi and Alabama had achieved housing relief to 90% or more of the people in need.  Interestingly, the same day Nagin had a news conference in which he lambasted President Bush because there were only 2000 FEMA trailers in all of New Orleans.  I personally delivered over 80 trailers to the Gulf Coast area, but until after the emergency was lifted only 2 of them went to LA.  ALL of the others slated for LA were diverted to TX, AR, or MS because there was no room in the staging areas.

Please don't hold Ray Nagin up as one who did anything to take care of his people.  IMHO his actions were at the least incompetent and at the most criminal.

Jerry

BTW, There were far more people devastated, and far more destruction in MS and AL than in New Orleans and LA.  If you want to see real destruction go to Biloxi.  An apartment building a quarter of a mile from the gulf looks like it has three stories of parking garage because the storm surge pushed ALL of the structure on those three floors out.  All there is of those floors are the steel columns holding the rest of the building up.


Damn, too bad there isn't a push to show the negative things that impact the President.  Things like this might show that Bush had nothing to do with the lack of preparedness and Nagin was the problem... :-/
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by Charlie on Aug 27th, 2006, 4:55pm
I'll settle for Spike Lee's HBO documentary.

It wasn't censored.

George is supposed to take a tour soon, I was told.....real dumb.

Charlie
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by PL259 on Aug 27th, 2006, 7:34pm
Been there done that! Back there getting ready again. Every body screwed up. I am tired already. I saw the fuck ups! I saw the communication and command shred and fray. I felt the pain. I cussed FEMA to their face. I cussed the state to their face. I still do. I saw the pain in peoples faces. I felt the pain. Nagin is a freaking nutcase.
Steve I am proud of you and all the New Orleans area people that are so tuff and committed. CNN/FOX/ ABC/NBC/CBS have't shown east New Orleans, St. Bernard Parish, nor anything in southwest Louisiana. Life is hard, we live. We survive. Nuff said, said to much already. Talk all you want, talk is cheap.
Title: Re: Mayor Nagin
Post by deltadarlin on Aug 29th, 2006, 8:09am
Anyone watch the 60 Minutes interview with Nagin?  Here is the link to the script

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/08/25/60minutes/main1936523.shtml

I can't wait to read this book, An Oreo In Chocolate City.  This book is written by Leonard Moore, a professor of African American History at LSU (and btw, he is also an African American).

'darlin


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