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(Message started by: Tom K on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:20pm)
Title: PayPal Fraud
Post by Tom K on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:20pm
I was woken up this morning by a call from one of my credit card companies, asking if I had made a purchase through PayPal for $1350.00.  I told them that I had not and asked WTF.  They told me that someone had put in that I did make the purchase and wanted payment.  I told them that it was fake and to cancel my card.  I then logged into my PayPal account and saw that someone decided to deplete my bank account of $500.00 at midnight last night!  I called the bank and told them to get my money back!!!  What a fun day it has been, canceling credit cards, opening a new bank account and such!!  BASTARDS!!!  I can't believe that people suck sooo badly!  I hope whoever it is uses the money to buy a piece of rope, a chair and a sturdy beam...
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:23pm
Fuckin hacker scumbag pigs!!!!!  >:(
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by LeLimey on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:24pm
About says it all for me too Jonny!
Tom I'm glad it all got picked up on so quickly, you didn't need that hassle though hon  :-/
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by chewy on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:45pm
I strongly belive that is was because of PayPal that I became a victim of identity theft.
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2006, 4:55pm
No more paypal for me!
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by wildhaus on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:11pm

on 08/19/06 at 16:55:25, Jonny wrote:
No more paypal for me!


how do I pay for CH.com?
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Melissa on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:18pm
Did you all end up clicking on the spoof emails or what?  

I'm sorry, but unless you know exactly where the theft came from, why make PayPal users panic?

I don't take kindly to that unless there's proof.  Sorry, that's just how I feel about it.  I've used PayPal safely (especially with their toolbar) myself since 1999. :-/  
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:25pm

on 08/19/06 at 17:18:47, Melissa wrote:
Did you all end up clicking on the spoof emails or what?   


It dont take an email for a hacker to hack the paypal site, Melly.
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by ShadowLord on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:26pm
Didn't a bunch of paypal accounts get compromised a while back because their servers were cracked?

PFDAN................................................. ShadowLrd
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Tom K on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:35pm
I click no spam, don't have any trojan horses on my PC.  PayPal told me that my account had been hacked.  The good news is that whoever hacked it cannot see any info, other than the last four digits of my credit card and bank account, all canceled now.  The PayPal CSR told me that what happens is that someone sets up a PP account, hacks some legit accounts and sends money to the set up account.  They then withdrawl the money and take down the account.  I'm not trying to scare PP users, just letting people know.   I'm guessing that it only came from PP because the two transactions were PP based and none of my other cards had been hit.  YMMV
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by unsolved1 on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:40pm
That sucks !!

Just goes to show ... there is no 100% safe system! All code can be cracked !

UNsolved
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Ree on Aug 19th, 2006, 5:58pm
there has been a paypal scam going on for a really long time. They get in touch with you to tell you that there is something wrong with your paypal acct. Then they ask you to log on and give information.... Someone in your house may have answered the email and given out your information... it really looks authentic.... I dont have a pay pal account so when I got the email I knew it was a scam.  Thats why I don't have a pay pal account.... just don't trust those.....ree
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Tom K on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:03pm

on 08/19/06 at 17:58:52, Ree wrote:
there has been a paypal scam going on for a really long time. They get in touch with you to tell you that there is something wrong with your paypal acct. Then they ask you to log on and give information.... Someone in your house may have answered the email and given out your information... it really looks authentic.... I dont have a pay pal account so when I got the email I knew it was a scam.  Thats why I don't have a pay pal account.... just don't trust those.....ree



My wife had no clue that we actually had a PP account. :-/
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Melissa on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:19pm
Ok, thanks for explaining that Tom.  That really sucks it happened to you, I'm sorry.

:(mel
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Jonny on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:21pm

on 08/19/06 at 18:03:11, Tom K wrote:
My wife had no clue that we actually had a PP account. :-/


I pulled that one off too.....LMAO ;;D

Wife cant even turn a puter on.....Thank God for that....LOL  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by kayarr on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:26pm
paypal has had a monoply for too long.  If you are a business owner they do some really invasive things with your bank account.  I don't use them anymore either but mostly because they think they are God.  
Looking forward to having Google start something up.
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by purpleydog on Aug 19th, 2006, 6:38pm

on 08/19/06 at 17:58:52, Ree wrote:
Someone in your house may have answered the email and given out your information...


If you have a paypal account, you should have your own email no one in your house has access to. If everyone in your house has the password to your email, then anything can happen with any email scam. Or should I say spam.
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by imnotbub on Aug 20th, 2006, 12:41am
I don't use it any more, I don't trust it. I constantly get notifications to update an account that I closed a year ago. They can keep it.


Steve
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Kirk on Aug 20th, 2006, 2:24am
The Crackers are the ones that got ya.

The Hackers were doing something else  [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Charlie on Aug 20th, 2006, 2:59am
That sucks Tom  >:(

I've been lucky with Paypal. Been there since 2001. One thing I never do is use any link of any kind to get there. I always do it the long way. I get all kinds of shit that purports to been from them but I delete it all.

Charlie
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Fredmyyster on Aug 20th, 2006, 9:08am
I used PP for a while till i got a notice from them saying i had already reached my spending limit of 2K and that i now i had to give them my checking account routing number to be able to continue using it so i said CYA !!
I send M/O's now , may take a bit longer but i have peace of mind....
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by cootie on Aug 20th, 2006, 10:28pm
Weird.......I cancell'd my paypay account cuz I was worried about them and all the spoof mail I was gettin......got one that had my last 4 digits of my credit card on it so I freaked and cancel'd my account totally. And they also told me I spent the allowed limit and needed to get verify'd and give them my checking or bank account numbers. But ya know what......I bought sumthin on ebay for a couple bucks and 'just for the hell of it' tried to pay it with paypal........and it went thru !!! And my limit was increased without verifying like they said I HAD TO DO BEFORE to continue useing it. WTF'r Pam  :-/

How do you OFFICIALLY cancel the dam thing ??? I just found out it was still active........

ps: my credit card co called a while back AGAIN tryin to get us to buy fraud protection.....they go on and on and on about it so Brad told them to send us all there INFO on it and price ect ect so he could read it over. They switched him to anouther operator and she wanted some info and said we had agree'd to recieve the fruad protection and pay for it thru the previous operator and Brad argue'd with her saying NO WAY. They told him they will NOT send the info unless you sign up to recieve it and get charged monthly. Was kinda pricey last time I talked to them.....so much on the dollar on your balances. I don't owe much rite now but it was still ALOT. Kind of scarey !!!
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by TomM on Aug 21st, 2006, 7:15pm

on 08/19/06 at 17:35:10, Tom K wrote:
 PayPal told me that my account had been hacked.  

If PayPal admitted your account was hacked on thier server, are they going to refund your money to you?
Inquisitive minds want to know.
TomM
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Tom K on Aug 21st, 2006, 7:22pm

on 08/21/06 at 19:15:36, TomM wrote:
If PayPal admitted your account was hacked on thier server, are they going to refund your money to you?
Inquisitive minds want to know.
TomM


After a fun day with the three credit companies, and the bank, I am getting fully reimbursed for the missing cash.  PayPal is going to refund my money and the bank already credited my account until PP pays up.  What a fun day it has been.  Did you know, you cannot speak with a person at any of the credit companies?  I didn't.  I just wanted to speak with someone to see if my credit had been hit and all there is, is a system to automated report fraud or to order a credit report.  Nice...looking for the service in Customer Service... :-/
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by ShadowLord on Aug 21st, 2006, 7:26pm

on 08/21/06 at 19:22:31, Tom K wrote:
looking for the service in Customer Service... :-/

That's the problem... You're not the credit bureaus' customer... The card merchants and financial institutions are their customers... You're just a number.

PFDAN............................................................ ShadowLrd
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Charlie on Aug 21st, 2006, 10:15pm
Glad things are on the way for you Tom but Geeze. I know what it's like being unable to find something resembling a human when dealing with stuff like this.

So many companies have discovered that good will just gets in the way of making a buck. No fun for them. It's all over. When you check out at the grocery store and slide your cards...anywhere for that matter, you're doing a good portion of their accounting. No need to hire so many accountants and we can save there too. So what if we lose a customer or two...after all, we're saving money in the long run this way....

Go to your windows and shout "I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore."  :D

Charlie
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Skyhawk5 on Aug 22nd, 2006, 12:46am
A few months ago I kept getting emails saying my acct needed to be updated, I ignored these until one said I owed money on an acct I didn't have.

We contacted Paypal and they said it was a SCAM and to not give any info to that email(s). They had me forward what I had to them to Spoof@Paypal.com.

Watch out for this one, click on NO links.     Skyhawk5
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by Kirk on Aug 22nd, 2006, 5:50am
I have had an account with PayPal since 2000. With (knock on wood) no problems.
There has been a plethora of crackers and scam artists, that have attempted to defraud me in their name, in that time. They just happen to be the biggest target on the block, and you better expect that these jokers are going to come out of the woodwork.
Being Microsoft users having no readily accessable means of securing yourselves. I feel your pain. Just try and practice due diligence along with common sense. You should in most cases be alrite.
Its not a perfect world. Along with the freedom of the internet, comes the personal responsibility for your own safety. [smiley=smokin.gif]
Title: Re: PayPal Fraud
Post by imnotbub on Aug 22nd, 2006, 11:50am
I just received a similar e-mail stating it was fraim CitiBank regarding updating my account with them. I don't have an account with them.
Watch it people.

Steve


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