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(Message started by: jimmers on Aug 11th, 2006, 10:09am)
Title: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by jimmers on Aug 11th, 2006, 10:09am
Thats what I'm hearing the terrorists were trying to do to bring down these planes. It was said that approx. 4000 people could have been killed if this sick plot wasn't thwarted by security personnel.

Somehow, they cut these bottles in half and used the bottom half to store the explosive liquid. Then they would glue or fuse the container back together with a seperate compartment for the real gatorade. if they had been told by security to take a drink, it would have been no problem and would have been allowed to bring it on the plane, with an ending none of us want to even think about.

I guess they will stop at nothing to kill us. I'm sure there will be more elaborate plans in the future.

Keep your eyes open!

I'm not sure how I'm gonna survive a flight without my lipstick though. ;;D

Jimmers
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Mattrf on Aug 11th, 2006, 10:39am
It is so hard to understand why anyone would do something like this and kill in ignescent people and children and have such a hatred for those they do not even know.
A friend sent me this link of Moslems walking through the streets of England, I know that this is not indicative of all Moslems and if I where one I would be so pissed at them for giving all Moslems such a bad name. Take a look, it made me sick to read what there signs said.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/muslimprotest.asp

Matt
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by brewcrew on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:09am
Pretty brave and manly to hold signs like that while covering your face.

Take the diapers off your mugs, you goddamned cowards! Threats like these should land you in jail for just long enough to learn the meaning of the word "regret." I've got a feeling there's a certain 6'7" somebody named Bubba that wouldn't mind having his way with little pu$$ys like you and your jihadi comrades.

You have to fight fire with fire. It's the only language these vermin speak.
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by rickyshot on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:16am
Too right Brew. And this under the guise of relgious freedom. That is not freedom it is licencse and direct threats IMO. If you threatened someone personally your ass would be in jail by now.

Shit it makes my blood boil. Just like the case of a student 11 years old who won the right here in Canada to carry a kirpan (the ceremonial dagger) albeit a plastic version , as part of his uniform to a public school. Maybe some of our students should carry plastic guns to school on relgious bases too.

What fuckery!!!!
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by stevegeebe on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:32am
Our Creator must be weeping.

Steve G
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by BarbaraD on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:40am
Then they picked up those guys in Ohio. Haven't really figured out why they had Mapquest of all the WalMarts [smiley=huh.gif]

Guess we're going back to the 50 McCarthy stuff and the "Reds" will be everywhere. That was not a good time. Everyone suspected his neighbor of being a communist and people called each other names - guess history repeats itself after all. Only this time it's damn serious.

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by maffumatt on Aug 11th, 2006, 11:49am
This is the threat our generation faces, it's time people get their heads out of the sand and take a long hard look at it so the next generation wont have too.
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by LadyLuv on Aug 11th, 2006, 12:32pm
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(




LL
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 12th, 2006, 1:03pm
Matt,
I dont understand why the people in those pics dont move back to whereever it is they came from.  If western culture sucks SOOOO bad that they want death and destruction, why dont they just move back to their mud huts and get back to the business of rapin kids and beatin women?
I hear there is lots of death and destruction in the middle east, they should be very happy there.  
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Jonny on Aug 12th, 2006, 1:18pm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9015794510241027087
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by cootie on Aug 13th, 2006, 10:03pm
Not to sound stupid.....esp since I am 'in' Ohio....but what was the story with the people caught in Ohio that had mapquests or sumthin to Walmarts ? I have had an extremely busy weekend and not seen any news and we don't get a paper out here in the boon-sticks. Jus wonder'd . (was last in there quicky early Saturday mornin)....wierd bad vibe feelings Pam
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Tom K on Aug 13th, 2006, 10:19pm

on 08/11/06 at 10:39:00, Mattrf wrote:
It is so hard to understand why anyone would do something like this and kill in ignescent people and children and have such a hatred for those they do not even know.
A friend sent me this link of Moslems walking through the streets of England, I know that this is not indicative of all Moslems and if I where one I would be so pissed at them for giving all Moslems such a bad name. Take a look, it made me sick to read what there signs said.

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/muslimprotest.asp

Matt


Yeah, it's sad that 2 or 3 MILLION bad apples can spoil the whole bunch... ::)  Maybe if the Muslim people would police their own, the rest of the world wouldn't have to put up with them.  Then again, what do you expect from people who start riots over cartoons... [smiley=huh.gif]
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by floridian on Aug 13th, 2006, 11:08pm

on 08/13/06 at 22:19:58, Tom K wrote:
Yeah, it's sad that 2 or 3 MILLION bad apples can spoil the whole bunch... ::)


Millions, Schmillions!

Ok, lets say its 2 million - which is a massive overestimate, but I'll play along. That's out of a population of over 1 billion. That's 2 per thousand - less than one apple per bushel (a bushel has about 126 medium apples, maybe 100 of todays large-uns.)  

It's half the percentage of people in America get cluster headaches, which is a fairly small number given the fact that most clusterheads have never knowingly met another clusterhead.  

If you took a more realistic number of bad apples (like in the thousands) then it drops towards 1 per 100,000 or 1 per 500,000.    

Among red-blooded American males, how many rapists are there per 1000? How many child-molesters, or murderers?  What does that say about men in America??  Using your bigot-logic, they must be a rotten bunch.

Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Tom K on Aug 14th, 2006, 9:51am

on 08/13/06 at 23:08:46, floridian wrote:
Millions, Schmillions!

Ok, lets say its 2 million - which is a massive overestimate, but I'll play along. That's out of a population of over 1 billion. That's 2 per thousand - less than one apple per bushel (a bushel has about 126 medium apples, maybe 100 of todays large-uns.)  

It's half the percentage of people in America get cluster headaches, which is a fairly small number given the fact that most clusterheads have never knowingly met another clusterhead.  

If you took a more realistic number of bad apples (like in the thousands) then it drops towards 1 per 100,000 or 1 per 500,000.    

Among red-blooded American males, how many rapists are there per 1000? How many child-molesters, or murderers?  What does that say about men in America??  Using your bigot-logic, they must be a rotten bunch.



Hook, line and sinker... ::)  Thanks for proving that no matter how evil a person's desires are, there will be someone to deflect criticism(sp) away from what evil they are trying to do, and turn it onto the people being critical.  Keep your head burried in the sand...you'll be safer that way.... ::)
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by rickyshot on Aug 14th, 2006, 10:44am
And you don't see the Muslim clergy coming out en masse to decry this kind of shit. A few here and there makes a comment but on the whole nothing. And no mass demonstrations either by Muslims decrying the fanantics among them. Makes me wonder.

Floridian you are so politically correct and liberal that you won't be happy till you have to wear a rag on your head and your mother walks three paces behind all men. Oh and lets not forget about that wonderful justice Sharia Law. That is where a 12 year old girl gets raped by her brother , gets pregnant and gets stoned to death. If you emigrate to this country it is OUR law not the immigrants. My grandparents had to obey US laws. There was no welfare nothing handed to them. What is wrong with this generation. Human nature is such that the more you hand out the more they take and become victums. And religious freedom is just that freedom not license. You have to exist within a parameter of a civilized society. Don't like the rules. Lobby and vote and demonstrate like a proper American Citizen.

Personally I do not even want to undertand a religion that lets suicide bombers including 11 year old children being used to go into crowds of their enemies which is everyone who does not believe like them and set off bombs killing hundreds and thus going to paridise with a bunch of virgins. Anyone with a lick of sense ain't with that bullshit. That is not God that is the devil pure and incarnate. God is about love and life. Most religions ascribe to that. When you have death and destruction in the name of God you got a real problem and I am sorry they lost their freedom of religion over here if that is what they are bringing.

Shit............
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by jimmers on Aug 14th, 2006, 11:05am
Is disliking and suspicious about a group of people within a race who want to kill you at any cost being bigoted? Absolutely not!

I call it covering my ass. Wake up!


Jimmers
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by cootie on Aug 14th, 2006, 11:32am
But how many can ONE terrorist TAKE OUT at one time..........one minus thousands Pam

Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by vig on Aug 14th, 2006, 11:58am
Why do they want to kill us?
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by floridian on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:09pm

on 08/14/06 at 10:44:21, rickyshot wrote:
And you don't see the Muslim clergy coming out en masse to decry this kind of shit. A few here and there makes a comment but on the whole nothing. And no mass demonstrations either by Muslims decrying the fanantics among them. Makes me wonder.

Floridian you are so politically correct and liberal that you won't be happy till you have to wear a rag on your head and your mother walks three paces behind all men. Oh and lets not forget about that wonderful justice Sharia Law. That is where a 12 year old girl gets raped by her brother , gets pregnant and gets stoned to death. If you emigrate to this country it is OUR law not the immigrants. My grandparents had to obey US laws. There was no welfare nothing handed to them. What is wrong with this generation. Human nature is such that the more you hand out the more they take and become victums. And religious freedom is just that freedom not license. You have to exist within a parameter of a civilized society. Don't like the rules. Lobby and vote and demonstrate like a proper American Citizen.

Personally I do not even want to undertand a religion that lets suicide bombers including 11 year old children being used to go into crowds of their enemies which is everyone who does not believe like them and set off bombs killing hundreds and thus going to paridise with a bunch of virgins. Anyone with a lick of sense ain't with that bullshit. That is not God that is the devil pure and incarnate. God is about love and life. Most religions ascribe to that. When you have death and destruction in the name of God you got a real problem and I am sorry they lost their freedom of religion over here if that is what they are bringing.

Shit............


No, you don't see it, and your not even looking. (http://www.unc.edu/~kurzman/terror.htm)

Several of these countries are going through civil wars between the moderates and radicals, and you think there is no opposition to the hate-based fundamentalism.  There is.  

So liberal that I won't be happy until I have to wear a rag on my head?  No, I just don't like the slurs against the Muslims I know - people that oppose the violence you outlined, people that do not wish to force their beliefs on anyone else.  To lump all Muslims with the fanatics makes about as much sense as lumping all Christians with Timothy McVeigh and the Aryan Nations/Christian Identity movement.

In the logo for this board, it claims to be the worldwide cluster headache support group.  Yet there is frequent gay-bashing, slurs and derogatory remarks against Mexicans, stereotyping of people based on religion. There is no policy against that type of shit, because it is really the cluster headache board for politically conservative Christian North Americans.  A core group continues to make others unwelcome, so they don't stay.  
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Paul98 on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:18pm

on 08/13/06 at 23:08:46, floridian wrote:
Millions, Schmillions!

Ok, lets say its 2 million - which is a massive overestimate, but I'll play along. That's out of a population of over 1 billion. That's 2 per thousand - less than one apple per bushel (a bushel has about 126 medium apples, maybe 100 of todays large-uns.)  

It's half the percentage of people in America get cluster headaches, which is a fairly small number given the fact that most clusterheads have never knowingly met another clusterhead.  

If you took a more realistic number of bad apples (like in the thousands) then it drops towards 1 per 100,000 or 1 per 500,000.    

Among red-blooded American males, how many rapists are there per 1000? How many child-molesters, or murderers?  What does that say about men in America??  Using your bigot-logic, they must be a rotten bunch.



So, Flo, the 19  (9/11) hijackers took out ~ 3,000 people.  That's a kill ratio of 1:157.89  So the way I look at it, YEA, a few bad apples is a big deal!  By your reasoning, the E. bola virus is trivial because it is only one gazillionth the size of the human body.  

And yes, the fanatic Islamic are a rotten bunch.  Operative word being fanatic.

-P.
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Melissa on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:18pm
Ok, that is fucking IT!!!  I am getting SO sick of all this back and forth between left, right, Christian, Muslem, yadda yadda yadda that it is making me not want to fucking come here anymore!

Grow up you CLUSTERHEADS!  Isn't that what most of us here ARE?  Cluster Headache sufferers?  Fuck this God damned political, terrorist cockamayme(sp?) BULLSHIT!

And fuck whoever says that "you don't have to click on it or read it or reply" shit, because you're in my house dammit just as much as I'm in yours!

>:(
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by cootie on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:19pm
America is the meltin pot of racism.........been there seen it done it and been a victim Pam

If ya plant the wrong vegitables in yer garden side by side it makes the others have a bad taste.

PS: I'm NOT sayin bad stuff here.......ok got that off my chest......just an observation. Guess we jus can't change sumthings or fix it unless we got STRICT RULES to prevent it. Sigh...............
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by nani on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:21pm
floridian
Guest


:'(  
Jonathan, I know where you're coming from, for sure. I just want to say that I'm sorry I've kind of left you holding the bag. I've had to stop posting to these kinds of threads, because it only serves to hurt and anger me. To watch people "bait" you, has been especially difficult. You, more than anyone, has brought this community a wealth of knowledge and insight into our condition. You are firm in your beliefs, and are not afraid to defend them, rationally and intelligently. I really respect that.    :'(    :-*
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Kevin_M on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:23pm
Jon,


Thank you for your wealth of knowledge you always imbedded in your posts of an amazing awareness.

:(




Ueli, Jon............. and John D.  

:(
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by seasonalboomer on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:23pm
gatorade makes me want to pee. (attempted hijack in progress)
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Bob P on Aug 14th, 2006, 12:30pm

Quote:
In the logo for this board, it claims to be the worldwide cluster headache support group.  Yet there is frequent gay-bashing, slurs and derogatory remarks against Mexicans, stereotyping of people based on religion. There is no policy against that type of shit, because it is really the cluster headache board for politically conservative Christian North Americans.  A core group continues to make others unwelcome, so they don't stay.  

My Polak brothers and beaner in-laws think you're a little too tightly wound Flo.
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by jimmers on Aug 14th, 2006, 2:57pm
WOW! Did this thread take a wierd twist or what?

Jimmers
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by tanner on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:34pm

 Sorry Mel! I really don't want to see your head blow  :o

Just your Balloon's........no that was not a sexist remark :-[

It's just that I know of at least one popular member of our little community here that is a Muslim and I would bet he is no terrorist or a supporter of such.

When I lived on St. Maarten I had a number of good friends mostly from Trinidad and Tobago who I worked the dive boats with who were also Muslim and very interested in discussing world politics and ironically enough were pretty pro American. It was the French they didn't like ;;D, course you get a lot of that down there when you live on the Dutch side. one of them even got my back for me when I wandered into a bar that had some real Yankee haters in it who were from some of the other islands and were most likely Catholics (with a little voodoo thrown in)

I guess what I am getting at is that even though you rarely see Flo and I on the same side of a political thread.......Well there are always exceptions. Blanket profiling won't work and expecting each and ever Muslim that is appalled by the actions of the fanatical factions to jump up and make targets of themselves by public outcry is not realistic either. Thank God for the ones that do but exposing your political beliefs is no more the measure of a good person for them then it is for us.

Usually Right but always honest....Tim
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:34pm
Flo must have been a troll, he didnt agree with your point of view.

Flo is one of the only ones able to voice his opinion in an intelligent manner.  He can talk about politics without saying "blow--job" or "stained dress".


Please come back Flo.  I am a troll too, and I am sure we can get past this childish bullshit.
Peace
Brian
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Melissa on Aug 14th, 2006, 3:35pm

on 08/14/06 at 14:57:07, jimmers wrote:
WOW! Did this thread take a wierd twist or what?

Jimmers

Unfortunately YES!  Sorry Jimmers... :(

BTW, I don't care about political debates (I'm lying) on here, but when people start to dig other people to the point it feels personal, well, I don't take to kindly to it!

The back and forth of these particular subjects on here are happening way too often and are getting very repetitive.  

I just wish posters would write like they were sitting right in front of the person they were directing their words to.:(

Oh yeah, and you bet your ass I'd be swearing!
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Ree on Aug 14th, 2006, 4:52pm
after the Mel Gibson thread I decided nahhhhhh...

God bless all involved and God bless America and those that fight to keep us free....... Amen



ree
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Charlie on Aug 14th, 2006, 4:56pm

Quote:
BTW, I don't care about political debates (I'm lying) on here, but when people start to dig other people to the point it feels personal, well, I don't take to kindly to it!


It shouldn't be a political debate.

It's about that fact that a bunch of Muslim teenagers, with little if any education and/or perhaps horrible families have very little to live for..."so wtf?... at least we can go out with a bang," sign on with a tiny number of twisted throwbacks.  A cool way for them to make a bloody splash is to wander through crowds of civilians with things that go boom strapped to their torsos. It doesn't work.

Those that preach and teach terror have learned that not a lot of the world cares when this bloodbath is confined to the middle east. They have a bizarre notion that killing infidels from western countries will get more airtime and scare the besjesus out them. That it has just the opposite effect seems to go over their well-cloaked heads. All they do is inflct pain on the wrong people.

What they don't seem to understand is that the more they target things like airlines and use sacred things like Coke, Pepsi and Revlon as vehicles for mass murder, whatever "sympathy" they may have goes overboard.

Even though the number of terrorists is small, it's too hard to identify them. Until we can sort them out better, there is little to do but make life miserable for them and us. We could use some help from fellow Muslims.

I hate to say it but we're going to make lots of mistakes going after people but it's important not to put all the blame on us. It matters little the percentages. It doesn't alter the fact that thousands of people die because of them.

We do have to at least try to not lose our heads though. I don't want to see internment camps.

Charlie
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Tom K on Aug 14th, 2006, 4:58pm

on 08/14/06 at 16:56:30, Charlie wrote:
It shouldn't be a political debate.

It's about that fact that a bunch of Muslim teenagers, with little if any education and/or perhaps horrible families have very little to live for..."so wtf?... at least we can go out with a bang," sign on with a tiny number of twisted throwbacks.  A cool way for them to make a bloody splash is to wander through crowds of civilians with things that go boom strapped to their torsos. It doesn't work.

Those that preach and teach terror have learned that not a lot of the world cares when this bloodbath is confined to the middle east. They have a bizarre notion that killing infidels from western countries will get more airtime and scare the besjesus out them. That it has just the opposite effect seems to go over their well-cloaked heads. All they do is inflct pain on the wrong people.

What they don't seem to understand is that the more they target things like airlines and use sacred things like Coke, Pepsi and Revlon as vehicles for mass murder, whatever "sympathy" they may have goes overboard.

Even though the number of terrorists is small, it's too hard to identify them. Until we can sort them out better, there is little to do but make life miserable for them and us. We could use some help from fellow Muslims.

I hate to say it but we're going to make lots of mistakes going after people but it's important not to put all the blame on us. It matters little the percentages. It doesn't alter the fact that thousands of people die because of them.

We do have to at least try to not lose our heads though. I don't want to see internment camps.

Charlie


X2!  I can't believe that I agree with you, again, Charlie.  110% on the money!
Title: Re: Explosives in Gatorade bottles...
Post by Charlie on Aug 14th, 2006, 5:22pm
Thanks TK.

It's a shame but you know; we are the good guys. After awhile even my patience wears thin. It's not our survival but it is about our being sensible.

A lot of people are going to become innocent victims of agressive policing but I just don't see any other way that will at least slow them down.

Rats.

Charlie


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