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(Message started by: BarbaraD on Jul 26th, 2006, 3:52pm)
Title: Would you believe?????
Post by BarbaraD on Jul 26th, 2006, 3:52pm
The jury came in with a Not Guilty because of MENTAL Defect in the Andrea Yates case (the woman who drowned her 5 kids in the bathtub down here in East Texas). At the first trial they said she was suffering from Post Partum Depression.... (hell, anyone who's had a baby has suffered from PPD and most of us didn't kill our kids).

Now they're going to put her in a mental facility (under court supervision -yeah right) until she's "cured" and there's a chance the woman could be back on the street in the future, having more kids and killing them. At least Susan Smith got Life without Parole - although she's seen the error of HER ways and has gotten religion now (bless her little heart).

I just get angry with cases like this... anyone who harms a child (regardless of reason) needs to be hung at high noon.

I'm going to go hug my little Caleb right now and tell him Granny loves him.

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Margi on Jul 26th, 2006, 3:55pm
I heard that too, Barb, and the hair on the back of my neck stood up.  It's just wrong on so many levels.

Not to worry.  She WILL be judged.  But that comes later, by a Power much higher than us.  

>:(
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by thomas on Jul 26th, 2006, 3:56pm
Hopefully they'll at least rip out her uterus (preferably without the use of anesthetic) so she can't have any more kids to drown.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by JeffB on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:01pm
Unbelievable,
I was friggin shocked when I read the verdict.
Those little kids never had a chance with that crazy eyed trailor trash. WTF, the husband didn't see anything strange about her while getting her pregnant every friggin year? >:(
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Gena on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:09pm
If you ask me the husband should have been on trial as well. He did know something was wrong, but he belived she could work through it.

My understanding was that she tried many times to tell people that something was wrong and everybody ignored her cries for help.

I am not saying that she is not responsible, but I think the father of the kids should have been on trial as well.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by jenrob2006 on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:14pm

on 07/26/06 at 15:56:41, thomas wrote:
Hopefully they'll at least rip out her uterus (preferably without the use of anesthetic) so she can't have any more kids to drown.


My thoughts exactly.   >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Mosaicwench on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:20pm

on 07/26/06 at 15:52:38, BarbaraD wrote:
Now they're going to put her in a mental facility (under court supervision -yeah right) until she's "cured" and there's a chance the woman could be back on the street in the future, having more kids and killing them.


It's disgusting to me that a jury would allow this . . . did they check their common sense at the door?  I'm especially attuned to this since I start jury duty next week.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by JeffB on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:21pm
I think Rusty needs his balls removed via a rabbid Pit Bull.
He's a lil crazy eyed himself the f---k!
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Mattrf on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:27pm
First off you would have to be nuts to kill your own kids, so how the hell does that excuse it?
There was a gal her that through her two kids in the SF bay and they drowned, don’t think they have gone to trial yet but this one has set the president so she will also get to go to the Ha! Ha! Hotel instead of the big house where she belongs.

Just my opinion, I could be wrong. [smiley=laugh.gif]

Matt
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Melissa on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:45pm
Just wanted to say that she had post partum psychosis, which is very different from PPD.  Basically, you're not you, your brain is FUBAR'd and unreality IS your reality.

And just because I brought up this point, don't call me a sympathizer either, as it's not my place to judge (thank GOD).
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by thomas on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:47pm

on 07/26/06 at 16:27:14, Mattrf wrote:
First off you would have to be nuts to kill your own kids,
Matt


Well I guess the jury agreed with you. ;)
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Jonny on Jul 26th, 2006, 4:54pm

on 07/26/06 at 16:09:19, Gena wrote:
If you ask me the husband should have been on trial as well.


Ditto!!!
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Sandy_C on Jul 26th, 2006, 5:11pm

on 07/26/06 at 16:20:53, Mosaicwench wrote:
It's disgusting to me that a jury would allow this . . . did they check their common sense at the door?  I'm especially attuned to this since I start jury duty next week.


Juries are supposed to be made up of your "peers".  How many of us have been called for jury duty and have found a way to bail out of it?  How many potential jurors are "too ill", "too busy at work", too whatever to serve on a jury.  So Yate's jury probably consisted of those folks who either don't work and have all the time on their hands that they want, are healthy as pigs, poor as dirt, or were too stupid to come up with a plausible excuse not to serve.  They were her peers.

Don't get me wrong here!  I've served on three juries in my life, one a murder trial.  If I'm called, I serve.  The only excuse is if you are really too ill (hospitalized, under docs care, ete - then with written excuse), too mentally challenged, or dead.

Serving on a jury when called is not a priviledge, it's not a right, it your duty as an American citizen.

Off soapbox now.

Sandy
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Racer1_NC on Jul 26th, 2006, 5:28pm

on 07/26/06 at 17:11:34, Sandy_C wrote:
Serving on a jury when called is not a priviledge, it's not a right, it your duty as an American citizen.


100% agreement from me. If called, I serve.

Bill
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by kevinpix on Jul 26th, 2006, 9:27pm
HI, i AGREE!  And, my question is:  when the doctors agree that she is sane enough to be set free, will they try to prosecute knowing she can't play the "insane" trump card?  It's all over the t.v. here in Texas.  It's only going to get worse.  I hope not. kev.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by stevegeebe on Jul 26th, 2006, 11:38pm
If you want to look up...look down, and if you want to look down..look up.

Steve G
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by ClusterChuck on Jul 26th, 2006, 11:52pm
This reminds me of a case, many years ago, that I was involved with, back when I did clown work.  I used to visit the children in the burns hospital in Boston.  One child, that for some reason took a real liking to me, was so severely disfigured from burns to his upper body and face, that you could hardly tell it was a human child.  I used to make special visits to be with him, even though I would have to leave the room, periodically, as I didn't want him to see his "special friend, Chuckles the clown" cry.

How did he end up there?  His parents were going thru a divorce, and a nasty child custody case.  One week end his father took him, brought him to a motel room, poured gasoline on him, and then set him afire!  His thought was, "If I can't have him, nobody can!"   He also planned on killing himself afterwards, but then chickened out.

What was his punishment?  I forgot, exactly what it was, but it was something like six months probation, and a thousand dollar fine!

WTF is with the court system?

The crying clown
Chuckles

PS:  If that child is still alive, he should be around thirty years old, by now.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Mrs Deej on Jul 26th, 2006, 11:56pm
Unfrigginbelieveable!!!

...I don't want to talk about it.  I called my son (he was with his Daddy), and told him how much I loved him.

I could never imagine!

She will get her's..............
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by BarbaraD on Jul 27th, 2006, 6:17am
I guess this one really got to me. Most of yesterday, I just held Caleb and kept telling him Granny loved him more than anything.

And the husband has already remarried and is probably having more kids. He said he didn't want her convicted because she was sick. Why the hell didn't he get her some help? Yeah, Jonny I think he should have been on trial also.

I think the death penalty should have been given in this case. Let her go to "that better place" where she sent her kids.

BD
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by chewy on Jul 27th, 2006, 6:41am
The real tragedy is her husband is still free to roam the earth.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Tom K on Jul 27th, 2006, 8:32am
Both of them should be given a ride on Ol' Sparky.  If she is that insane, then tell her it is a ride.  The husband should have his sack removed by rabid pit bull then strapped into the Chair!  
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by BlueMeanie on Jul 27th, 2006, 8:51am

on 07/27/06 at 06:17:53, BarbaraD wrote:
the husband said he didn't want her convicted because she was sick.


If MY wife, mother, uncle or ANYONE killed MY 5 kids, weather sane or not, I would want them convicted and either in jail for the rest of their lives or dead.

What about those kids ? Ooops sorry, she didn't know what she was doing so it's o.k. 5 kids will no longer get the chance of enjoying life. It just doesn't make since to me.  :'(
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by CHTom on Jul 27th, 2006, 9:04am
To be found "not guilty" under the McNaughten rule is very, very rare.  Andrea Yates is a very sick woman and will probably spend the rest of her life in a state mental institution.  Despite the horrible nature of her actions, Yates really believed the voices that were telling her to kill her kids.  She was/is a severely psychotic person and the sentence that she received is what one would expect in a civilized society.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Dragnlance on Jul 27th, 2006, 9:16am
The Devil made me do this ;;D ;;D [smiley=laugh.gif]

http://www.devil-sat.de/shop/design/devi-logo.gif
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Carl_D on Jul 27th, 2006, 2:30pm
I've been following the trial on Court TV and all I have to say is this:

"Not guilty by reason of insanity" means that at the time of the crime the person did not know RIGHT from WRONG!

This bitch called the cops right after killing her kids. Why did she do that if she was insane enough to not realize she did something wrong? Ya know, call me crazy, but I never call the cops to come out for no good reason. She called the cops because she MURDERED her kids and KNEW she did wrong. Think about it.

Peace,
Carl D
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:12pm

on 07/27/06 at 09:04:36, CHTom wrote:
Despite the horrible nature of her actions, Yates really believed the voices that were telling her to kill her kids.



Uh.you think the same voice that told her to kill her kids..is the SAME voice that told her to call 9-1-1.   [smiley=huh.gif]

Call me uncivilized if 'ya want.....but the bottom line here is that there's no justice for the victim(s).  :'(
Screw Yates   >:(     All she's good for is costing the State a bunch of money to feed, clothe, and treat her supposed mental condition.

Sheesh...what an idiot!   ::)

Jean
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by CHTom on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:31pm

on 07/27/06 at 22:12:51, TxBasslady wrote:
Uh.you think the same voice that told her to kill her kids..is the SAME voice that told her to call 9-1-1.   [smiley=huh.gif]

Call me uncivilized if 'ya want.....but the bottom line here is that there's no justice for the victim(s).  :'(
Screw Yates   >:(     All she's good for is costing the State a bunch of money to feed, clothe, and treat her supposed mental condition.

Sheesh...what an idiot!   ::)

Jean


OK, I give in, let's do like the Nazis and put the mentally ill out of their misery; you are right-we have to feed them, clothe them, provide shelter, medicine, staff to care for them and get nothing in return.  Would you, or any of the others who wrote in favoring executing the mentally ill, be willing to shoot the first one?  Hell, we coud make it an annual event like fox hunting-chase 'em down with dogs and have a good old time!  Hey, you'll also get to wear one of those cool looking red fox hunting uniforms!  I won't get into name calling and call you an idiot, Jean.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Jimi on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:33pm
I will. You are an idiot Tommy.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by maffumatt on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:35pm
Those balls sure swell up when your direct you comments towards women. Do you have issues with your mother?
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:37pm
Hey Tom....You can call me whatever you wish.

Unless you've worked the streets of Houston, and worked a crime scene bubba, you can STFU.

You have not a clue.....

Jean
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by maffumatt on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:40pm
He can't Jean, its a mental illness.
Matt
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by CHTom on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:49pm

on 07/27/06 at 22:35:17, maffumatt wrote:
Those balls sure swell up when your direct you comments towards women. Do you have issues with your mother?


No, with yours.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by maffumatt on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:50pm
told ya, is a compulsive disorder I would say.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by CHTom on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:52pm

on 07/27/06 at 22:37:21, TxBasslady wrote:
Hey Tom....You can call me whatever you wish.

Unless you've worked the streets of Houston, and seen a crime scene bubba, you can STFU.

You have not a clue.....

Jean


So that's what you do for a living-work the streets of Houston! ::)
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Sean_C on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:56pm
DJ delete his fuckin profile >:( Poof this fuck >:(
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by maffumatt on Jul 27th, 2006, 10:57pm
its the only way he can get attention from a real lady.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2006, 11:04pm

on 07/27/06 at 22:52:03, CHTom wrote:
So that's what you do for a living-work the streets of Houston! ::)



You really are an idiot....come on to Houston bubba.

There's a yellow band in the cellblock just waitin for someone like you.....that yellow band is real lonely tonight....   Bet he could show you a good time   ;;D

What an a$$ you are...
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Sean_C on Jul 27th, 2006, 11:09pm
CHTOM will be guest, trust me ;)
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Jimi on Jul 27th, 2006, 11:13pm
He really is. I was just over on the medications page and he was attacking Nani, Pattik and Margi among others. He is a piece of work. And the sad thing is, he is sitting at his puter cackling because he is getting attention. What a loser.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2006, 11:23pm

on 07/27/06 at 23:13:47, Jimi wrote:
He really is. I was just over on the medications page and he was attacking Nani, Pattik and Margi among others. He is a piece of work. And the sad thing is, he is sitting at his puter cackling because he is getting attention. What a loser.



LMAO...you're right, Jimi.  

Ummm guess he likes wimmen, and child killers.....just not the p-o-l-i-c-e...huh   [smiley=huh.gif]

Jean
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 27th, 2006, 11:38pm
*sigh*

Guess Tommie pulled up his pants and went home to get another screen name....  ;;D  LMFAO

See ya.....
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by LeLimey on Jul 28th, 2006, 8:00am
How many incarnations are we going to have to suffer this dweeb in?
John - I refuse to play your pathetic names and address you by any other name, get some therapy, get off the bloody narcotics and get a life you loser. You might think you're funny, clever or "interesting" but the simple truth is the rest of us think of you as a bitter little man with mental health issues and not a friend in the world. You alienate people everywhere you go, OUCH UK, here - here over and over in fact. When are you going to learn that if you behave detestably you will be detested?
Get a grip for crying out loud.
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by BarbaraD on Jul 28th, 2006, 8:19am

on 07/27/06 at 22:52:03, CHTom wrote:
So that's what you do for a living-work the streets of Houston! ::)


That was uncalled for Tom. Jean was a law enforcement officer and put her life on the line more than once to keep the streets safe.

What I see happening in this case is that while in the mental hospital, Yates will be given meds that will miraclously cure her and she'll be put back on the street declared "cured" of her mental defect. And she gets away with killing five innocent kids. Not right in my opinion.

Hugs BD
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by Mrs Deej on Jul 28th, 2006, 5:29pm

on 07/27/06 at 22:52:03, CHTom wrote:
So that's what you do for a living-work the streets of Houston! ::)


Watch it brother...walking a very thin line on this one!
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by maffumatt on Jul 28th, 2006, 5:43pm
He has a long history of attacking women here. Its how he gets his jollies. If you delete his profile he will just start another, I think CHTom is like his 5th screen name we know of.
Matt
Title: Re: Would you believe?????
Post by TxBasslady on Jul 28th, 2006, 6:08pm
Steph,

I love you way too much for you to put yourself in the position of being susceptible to this low-life.

He's pure scum....and feeds off the attention.  

If this POS was to say something to you...no doubt Deej will have to ban me from this site....'cause I just don't think I can tolerate that.

Jean


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