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(Message started by: maffumatt on Jul 21^st, 2006, 7:57pm)

Title: A favor please
Post by maffumatt on Jul 21^st, 2006, 7:57pm

Can everyone please send this guy an email and ask him to remove the Havard story from his Blog? gunblog@claytoncramer.com. I don't like the idea of Timmy's death being used to further this guys agenda. I know his family wouldn't either.
Please.....

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by Mattrf on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:05pm

Matt would be glad to but can you give me some more details on what to say to the puts and I would be glad to send him an email.

Matt

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by LeLimey on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:05pm

Job done Matt

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by maffumatt on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:12pm

The house Timmy was killed in belonged to Kim Jester, another lifelong friend of both Timmy and I. He was as welcome in that house as he was his own. Jason Lollar was allowed to stay there after losing his job and had no where else to go. Timmy came home to find his wife gone and went the 2 miles down the road to see if she was at Kims. She was. He went in to find his wife in bed with Jason. Timmy beat the hell out of guy. The guy shot him once with a 30.30 rifle, then shot him again as he lay on the ground. The blogger is hailing this as a classic home invasion. Timmy was not armed but did cut him while beating him. If Timmy wanted to kill the guy he would have used the pistol in his car.

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by LeLimey on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:15pm

Took me less than a minute to find the blog concerned Matt. This guy is one of those who just loves the sound of his own voice.

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by maffumatt on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:19pm

I would hate to see his kids and family to run across it. I was just looking to see if there was anything new in the news when I run across it. Jason is looking at Man 2 for shooting him again while he was already incapacitated. He goes before the next grand jury.

I don't ask much, but I am asking this from you guys. Please help me.

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by Donna_D. on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:24pm

Done Deal, Matt.

DD

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by alchemy on Jul 21^st, 2006, 8:45pm

done

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by tanner on Jul 21^st, 2006, 11:02pm

Count me in Matt! The SOB >:(

Sorry for your loss bro...Tim

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by Gator on Jul 21^st, 2006, 11:38pm

Done, bro.

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by Charlie on Jul 22^nd, 2006, 1:18am

I must be too tired. Tell me just where it is there and I'll take a look. I see lots of gunblog stuff but not the story.

Charlie

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by LadyLuv on Jul 22^nd, 2006, 2:37am

With you All the way Matt...

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by Jonny on Jul 22^nd, 2006, 7:11am

Done, Dude!

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by LeLimey on Jul 22^nd, 2006, 5:22pm

Here is the reply I've had to my email Matt

It took a while to figure out who this was in reference to. We blog several dozen news accounts a week.

1. I'm sure that this is painful to a lot of his friends. However, the reason we collect these stories is because they provide useful information about civilian uses of guns for self-defense (and I'm aware that many of you are disputing whether this qualifies). We would no more withdraw a LEGITIMATE defensive gun use (and I recognize this is a matter of some question in your minds) than a newspaper would decide not to publish an important news story.

2. I'm told that this wasn't "really" a home invasion, and some of you are saying that Lollar was in the wrong because he was an adulterer. You won't find me defending adultery--but IF the news accounts which
indicate Havard forced entry are correct, Lollar was legally in the right, and Havard was legally in the wrong. That would make Lollar's actions legally valid. We are very interested in linking to any news
accounts that cast doubt about whether Havard forced entry or not. Your personal opinions about whether Mr. Havard could have forced entry, or whether it was okay because his wife was inside, really don't have any
weight compared to news coverage or official actions.

3. Even ignoring the legal rightness, if you think that your spouse is being unfaithful, it is profoundly stupid to force entry to resolve the matter. There is at least the possibility that Mr. Lollar did NOT know who was forcing entry--and someone is so angry as to break and enter
someone's home is obviously angry enough to be a serious hazard.

Title: Re: A favor please
Post by maffumatt on Jul 22^nd, 2006, 5:26pm

I got the same, but I want to thank you guys for trying.