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(Message started by: medic1852 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 1:57pm)
Title: Diet and Health Tips
Post by medic1852 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 1:57pm
The Pasta Diet

ITALIAN PASTA DIET --  IT REALLY WORKS !!

1.. You walka pasta da bakery.

2.. You walka pasta da candy store.

3.. You walka pasta da ice cream shop.

4... You walka pasta da table and fridge.

You will lose weight!

AND......

CONCERNED ABOUT TOO MANY CARBS IN YOUR DIET?

For those of you who watch what you eat,
here's the final word on nutrition and health.    
It's a relief to know the truth
after all those conflicting
nutritional studies.

1.  The Japanese eat very little fat
and suffer fewer heart attacks than
Americans.

2.  The Mexicans eat a lot of fat
and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

3.  The Chinese drink very little red wine
and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

4.  The Italians drink a lot of red wine
and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

5.  The Germans drink a lot of beers and eat lots of sausages and fats
and suffer fewer heart attacks than Americans.

CONCLUSION

Eat and drink what you like.    
Speaking English is apparently what kills you.


Rodger
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by floridian on Jun 23rd, 2006, 2:10pm

on 06/23/06 at 13:57:09, medic1852 wrote:
...

CONCLUSION

Eat and drink what you like.    
Speaking English is apparently what kills you.


Rodger


Sorry, the Brits have about half the rate of heart disease that America does.  The English language is not to blame. I think American economics play more of a role.  



Quote:
They looked at health data from thousands of people in England and the United States, all of them 55 to 64 years old, all of them white. They only looked at whites so they could isolate the effect of socioeconomic status without respect to race.

Michael Marmot of University College in London said the results astonished him and the other researchers.

That's twice as much diabetes in the United States. And nearly twice as many people in the United States reported cancer.

"It was a bit of a big shock," Marmot says. "I just didn't imagine we'd find it consistently across the board, with worse health in the United States compared with England."

In the categories of diabetes, blood pressure and cancer, England's poorest citizens -- those in the lowest one-third of income levels -- did better than the richest one-third of Americans.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5377794
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by pattik on Jun 23rd, 2006, 2:16pm

on 06/23/06 at 14:10:21, floridian wrote:
Sorry, the Brits have about half the rate of heart disease that America does.  The English language is not to blame. I think American economics play more of a role.  



[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] I think we just need to start speaking "English"  English....that's the bloody ticket!
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by floridian on Jun 23rd, 2006, 2:31pm

on 06/23/06 at 14:16:47, pattik wrote:
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] I think we just need to start speaking "English"  English....that's the bloody ticket!


English English:
In theory, that's the bloody ticket;
In practice, it's a sticky wicket.
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by imnotbub on Jun 23rd, 2006, 3:43pm

on 06/23/06 at 14:10:21, floridian wrote:
I think American economics play more of a role.


More specifically, we need to take more time off. Correct me if I'm wrong (there's a statement that doesn't have to be made here ;;D )But doesn't the rest of the industrialized world take a great deal more vacation time than we do?

Steve
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by brewcrew on Jun 23rd, 2006, 4:24pm

on 06/23/06 at 14:10:21, floridian wrote:
I think American economics play more of a role.

My, oh my. There are those poo-poo-colored glasses again. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with personal responsibility and choices and what people shove in their faces and how they spend their free time. Nope, it's not their fault. It's the man. His way of keepin' 'em down.
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by Jonny on Jun 23rd, 2006, 4:36pm

on 06/23/06 at 16:24:27, brewcrew wrote:
My, oh my. There are those poo-poo-colored glasses again. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with personal responsibility and choices and what people shove in their faces and how they spend their free time. Nope, it's not their fault. It's the man. His way of keepin' 'em down.


LMAO!!! ;;D
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by floridian on Jun 23rd, 2006, 6:07pm

on 06/23/06 at 16:24:27, brewcrew wrote:
My, oh my. There are those poo-poo-colored glasses again. It certainly doesn't have anything to do with personal responsibility and choices and what people shove in their faces and how they spend their free time. Nope, it's not their fault. It's the man. His way of keepin' 'em down.


You're very good at misinterpreting what I didn't say. I'm not arguing that a person's health is independent of the choices that they make. But you appear to be claiming that the health of people in a society is independent of economics and public policies.

Two examples:  

Example 1: Government Policy on Sugar is one of the major factors responsible for the dramatic increase in diabetes and metabolic syndrome in the U.S.

Do you deny that import duties and price supports have artificially jacked up the price of cane sugar in America?  Do you deny that high fructose corn sweetners were developed in the U.S. as a response, and that they are used far more often in the US than in Europe and other regions?  Do you deny the relationship between high fructose consumption, the liver, and metabolic syndrome, which feeds directly into diabetes and heart disease? Do you deny that most doctors (let alone the average person) are unaware of the differential effects of HFCS vis a vis sucrose, that they don't keep saying 'sugar is sugar' in spite of the research?

Example 2: While the American public is fearful of healthcare reform (and those fears are reinforced by big advertising campaigns whenever reform seems possible), the current system is irrational, inneficient, and deadly.

Do you really believe that the average consumer has much choice when it comes to health insurance?  Do you think that it is possible to shop around for the best plan? Or are most decisions are made by the employer and the insurance corporation? Are you fine with the fact that insurance is economically linked to employment, and people who get sick and lose their jobs often lose their insurance? Do you think that "don't get sick" is a health care policy?

The US spends twice as much on health care per person than the UK, but has far less to show for it in measurable outcomes. Economically, that should be a big deal. In human terms, that should be a big deal. You can try to keep things the way they are by shifting 100% of the blame to individuals. But the truth is that health is affected by all scales - from the micro decisions that individuals make daily, to corporate policies, to federal law.  Only a simpleton would suggest otherwise.  

Economists say that money is the embodiment of value, an instrument for deciding and allocating. Follow the money.

Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by jimmers on Jun 23rd, 2006, 6:41pm
Geeze!

Take a chill pill or get a hummer would ya!

It was a friggin joke post! Lighten up already.

Jimmers
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by floridian on Jun 23rd, 2006, 6:44pm

on 06/23/06 at 18:41:14, jimmers wrote:
Geeze!

Take a chill pill or get a hummer would ya!

It was a friggin joke post! Lighten up already.

Jimmers


Yeah, I got the joke. And threads mutate. I added facts, others added insults. I'll soon be starting my weekend, and plan on chilling.  But I don't think a large SUV will do me any good.
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by Charlotte on Jun 23rd, 2006, 6:53pm
Back to the original thought, I once read that two sets of Irish brothers were studied who ate and drank very similar items - butter, beer, etc.  The ones in  Ireland had less heart disease that the ones in New York City.

It sounded to me like more than diet at play since there were elements like air pollution and excercise that weren't addressed.

Charlotte
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by brewcrew on Jun 23rd, 2006, 7:05pm

on 06/23/06 at 18:07:44, floridian wrote:
You're very good at misinterpreting what I didn't say. I'm not arguing that a person's health is independent of the choices that they make. But you appear to be claiming that the health of people in a society is independent of economics and public policies.

Two examples:  

Example 1: Government Policy on Sugar is one of the major factors responsible for the dramatic increase in diabetes and metabolic syndrome in the U.S.

Do you deny that import duties and price supports have artificially jacked up the price of cane sugar in America?  Do you deny that high fructose corn sweetners were developed in the U.S. as a response, and that they are used far more often in the US than in Europe and other regions?  Do you deny the relationship between high fructose consumption, the liver, and metabolic syndrome, which feeds directly into diabetes and heart disease? Do you deny that most doctors (let alone the average person) are unaware of the differential effects of HFCS vis a vis sucrose, that they don't keep saying 'sugar is sugar' in spite of the research?

Example 2: While the American public is fearful of healthcare reform (and those fears are reinforced by big advertising campaigns whenever reform seems possible), the current system is irrational, inneficient, and deadly.

Do you really believe that the average consumer has much choice when it comes to health insurance?  Do you think that it is possible to shop around for the best plan? Or are most decisions are made by the employer and the insurance corporation? Are you fine with the fact that insurance is economically linked to employment, and people who get sick and lose their jobs often lose their insurance? Do you think that "don't get sick" is a health care policy?

The US spends twice as much on health care per person than the UK, but has far less to show for it in measurable outcomes. Economically, that should be a big deal. In human terms, that should be a big deal. You can try to keep things the way they are by shifting 100% of the blame to individuals. But the truth is that health is affected by all scales - from the micro decisions that individuals make daily, to corporate policies, to federal law.  Only a simpleton would suggest otherwise.  

Economists say that money is the embodiment of value, an instrument for deciding and allocating. Follow the money.

Very few people can take what starts as a joke and turn it into this. You did it quite expertly.

Bravo Zulu!

p.s. - I'm not even going to start to address each of your points and questions. If people didn't want all the health problems associated with it, they would refuse to buy HFCS. It all boils down to personal responsibility.

"Any fool can make something complicated. It takes a genius to make it simple." --Woodie Guthrie
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by jimmers on Jun 23rd, 2006, 8:06pm
;;D
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by BobG on Jun 23rd, 2006, 8:24pm
I'm going to go get in my huge SUV and waste a bunch of high priced gas to drive to the pizza place and then to the start of this thread to tell Rodger that I'm LMAO!

Thanks Rodger.  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by medic1852 on Jun 23rd, 2006, 9:20pm
Well for those of you who saw the humor your welcome. For those of you who didnt..Get a life.. [smiley=bigtiny.gif]

Rodger
Title: Re: Diet and Health Tips
Post by jimmers on Jun 23rd, 2006, 9:57pm
I wasn't referring to an SUV. ;)

Jimmers


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