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Title: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:24pm Just curious as usual, How many of you are from the Boston area or close, have CH, smoke and would participate in a study for a nominal fee? and men only for this inquiry. Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Donna_D. on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:26pm Can't wait to see what this post brings forth.... DD |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Redd715 on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:32pm on 06/09/06 at 22:26:27, Donna_D. wrote:
You and me both Sis. Pegg |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:36pm Hey thanks, Donna, I know of the usual ones from the Boston area, but I am wondering how many more are out there that are not quite so obvious. Speak up you lurkers, Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Donna_D. on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:40pm What kind of study and how nominal is the fee? DD |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:47pm I'll give you 10 bucks to even TRY to take my pack of smokes. Anyone want to watch? |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Donna_D. on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:52pm on 06/09/06 at 22:47:03, chewy wrote:
That depends....will this wrasslin' match over your smokes include lime jello or not? DD |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Redd715 on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:52pm My money is on Chewy! |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:55pm Donna, I am just wondering how many males out there in the Boston area, who smoke and have CH who could be possibly recruited for a study, to compare normal smokers with CH smokers. I am considering funding this study but would really like to find out how many male CH Boston smokers are available for this study. Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:57pm Maria, sorry to interrupt, but the title of your thread made me think you were looking for a date.....for a nominal fee. I'm not from Boston. What kind of study are you doing? B$ |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Sean_C on Jun 9th, 2006, 10:58pm Ima 2 packer maria, not anything unusual in the smokers world. Sean.................................. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 11:02pm Oh Oh, Sorry the title of my thread was bad. Seriously I am not looking for a date, been married 28 years, OK. I am looking to see how many men with CH there are in the Boston area for a possible study on CH smokers related to those smokers without CH. Sorry to confuse or excite anyone, Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 11:04pm And BTW, maybe you all have been reading way too may of those personal ads :D Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Redd715 on Jun 9th, 2006, 11:06pm Who is running the study? |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 9th, 2006, 11:52pm hey Jonny, help me out here how many CH'ers that are smokers live in the area around Boston? oh and males? Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:03am Quote:
Send me a couple of cartons of Camels and let get this study rollin. Even better. Fund a study of Boston men with CH who eat lobsta tails in melted butter. You can start me off with a 1/2 dozen. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:31am on 06/10/06 at 00:03:44, chewy wrote:
Now THAT's a study Did I mention i am from Boston? I'm hungry too B$ |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:38am OK, so far, two mean ones (oops I mean men) from Boston who are smokers and have CH, any one else willing to step up and fess up? Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Gator on Jun 10th, 2006, 3:22am CH, male, Boston, smokes - got it. Now... What is the study trying to prove/disprove/ascertain? Who is conducting it? What does the study entail? How much is this nominal fee? |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Jonny on Jun 10th, 2006, 10:26am on 06/09/06 at 23:52:02, maria9 wrote:
Sorry, at that time of night I am catching up on my beauty sleep.....LMAO ;;D Ive been smoking for 32 years, im up to four packs a day.....im gonna die early and that sucks cause my CH stopped cold over a year ago. Oh well.....LOL [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by tanner on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:12am Sorry Maria, I'm not from the area but if you are going to buy my smokes I might come for a visit 8)......tim I need a good excuse to stop and see Scott anyway! |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:30am This is the dumbest thread I have read in a long while. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by john_d on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:36am Home girl was on a late-nite man hunt ;;D |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Linda_Howell on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:37am And I was under the impression you lived in Western Canada Maria. [smiley=huh.gif] You might get a better response if you answered the questions, like who is doing the study, what is the nominal fee, what is the study trying to prove/disprove, etc. Linda who is not male so will shut up now. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Ree on Jun 10th, 2006, 11:39am on 06/10/06 at 00:03:44, chewy wrote:
He just quit smoking, though, due to the fact that we are supporting my sis in law recently diagnosed with terminal lung cancer... though she says she is giving this a year to get out of her body and she is going back to work... she is the toughest broad I have ever met... I am so proud of her... Dave too he is doing pretty good this time quitting... and GIRLS HE SMELLS SOOOOO GOOD... AND GETTING MORE ACTION HERE... LOVE YA ALL REE |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by nani on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:09pm This is legit, folks. Details will be forthcoming, at some point. So.... of all you Boston area boys... who'd do it? (I don't think it involves taking cigarettes away from anybody, LOL) |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Sean_C on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:33pm What do we have to do? No-ones saying anything. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:42pm Hey all, I was trying to determine if there are enough men smokers with CH in the Boston area that would qualify to make this study feasible. This is still in the very early stages of the development/proposal process and as such I am not able reveal all the details of the study right now. Thanks for your helpful replies, Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 12:44pm Quote:
Get back to us when you can. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 10th, 2006, 7:01pm on 06/10/06 at 11:30:23, chewy wrote:
Only because you haven't started any recently. Don't worry big guy. I'm sure the study protocol selection process would eliminate you, even if were able to prove you were a male. Too bad she didn't qualify this as needing to be a "man" or you could have skipped the thread altogether. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 7:04pm Ah yes. Pinkfloyd, still awash in psychodelics, raises hie pecker head again! LMAO! Black lights still on ? http://www.sfgate.com/traveler/postcards/haight-hippie.jpg |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by nani on Jun 10th, 2006, 8:29pm Anyone ever hear of a feasiblity study? That's when you have money to invest, and you do some research to see if the place you want to invest it makes sense. Seems to me that Marsha is trying to decide whether investing in this study would be worthwhile for CH sufferers. (Thank you, Marsha) She asked a simple question, and still hasn't gotten any answers. :-/ A simple yes, no or even a maybe would've done. :( |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by john_d on Jun 10th, 2006, 8:46pm Ok, sorry for my little smartie remark Maria :P. I tend to take things less serious in general posts section. I am sure it's a very worthwhile effort. Good luck with your study. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Sean_C on Jun 10th, 2006, 8:58pm on 06/10/06 at 20:29:40, nani wrote:
She asked if we wanted to participate in a study. She got feed back, but wouldn't answer any questions. How can anyone be willing to commit if they don't know what type of commitment they're making. I'd be willing to try anything, however I'm not interested in any form of implants in my body, and I would not be interested in taking any drugs not approved by the FDA. Answer me these 2 simple questions and lets move forward. And if its to help the cause for CH I don't need to be paid, I'll do it for us. Sean............................................ |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 9:08pm Quote:
Sure have. Do many of them. Feasabilty study usually projects an outcome or a goal. None here. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by nani on Jun 10th, 2006, 9:11pm on 06/10/06 at 21:08:22, chewy wrote:
Correction: none to your knowledge. I'm glad no one asked you to participate in the first penicillin trials. We'd all have STDs. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 9:13pm Quote:
Why would anyone sign on to something they have no info about? Quote:
Not me. I always buy automatics. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by nani on Jun 10th, 2006, 9:14pm I'm pretty sure she asked whether you'd consider participating. She didn't ask for any signatures. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 10th, 2006, 9:16pm This whole issue wouldn't have even been an issue if something besides a vague referance to a self facilitated study was provided. It wasn't. Heres my answer. NO. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by tanner on Jun 11th, 2006, 12:30am Maria, since I have great respect for both Pink and Nani although I have not yet met either in person, I would like to apologize for my earlier facetious response :-[ I don't live anywhere near Boston, but as a chronic that has yet to find ANYTHING that works for me I would be interested in hearing more info on the study you are proposing. Just need more facts! I wish you luck in your endeavors to bring more light into this very dim tunnel I am living in. ...................Tim |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Sean_C on Jun 11th, 2006, 12:37am I'm confused, I get the feeling Pink and Nani know Maria, and know more about this than we do. Guys we have no idea what this is all about and thats all anybody asked. I even sent Maria a PM which she didn't respond to either. Is there some kind of patent pending in this study? Why the hush hush? Sean...................................... |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by tanner on Jun 11th, 2006, 12:44am Point taken. Where the F##h is my Mason Williams song ;;D "Largo Deluxe"....keep lookin please ;) ...Tim |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Sean_C on Jun 11th, 2006, 12:54am Tim its gonna be tough to find, but this is a cool tune too ;;D Mason Williams - Classical Gas (http://tinyurl.com/zbo36) Sean......................... |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by tanner on Jun 11th, 2006, 1:14am Thanks Sean, I will take em one at a time, but I am starting to think that I must have owned the only vinyl copy of "Mason Jar" And I gave the darn thing away when I thought albums were over. :-[ .....dumb move....Tim |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Pinkfloyd on Jun 11th, 2006, 1:21am on 06/10/06 at 20:58:18, Sean_C wrote:
She wasn't asking for any commitment Sean. It may have sounded a bit like that in the first post but she was just looking to see how many people might be in the area that might be able to be drawn upon IF a study was undertaken. I don't know a lot about it, but do know a little. I'm sure they are looking for people in that area to keep costs down for transportation, lodging, etc. on 06/11/06 at 00:37:58, Sean_C wrote:
Yes, I know her very well. Although she doesn't post here often, she is a very big supporter of cluster research. Just the sort of thing cluster people cry about, and rightfully so, that there isn't much research into cluster headaches. Someone brings up the subject to check out interest, and the thread turns into a joke. I don't think cluster research is a joke, and I know you don't either. Maria's 3rd post in this thread pretty much explained the question in her 1st post. on 06/11/06 at 00:37:58, Sean_C wrote:
I think she's been away since then. Her 3rd post summed up about as much as she could pass along at this point IMHO. It was just a question to see what sort of "pool" a study in that area may be able to draw upon. It is the answers to simple questions like that, that determine the amount needed for future funding. Just as with the psilocybin trials, it had to be determined whether we would have to fly people in from all over the US, and put them in either hospitals or hotels for 10 days, or if we could recruit 10 or 20 people from the Boston area. You can see how the answer to that question would make a huge difference in how much money needs to be raised. on 06/11/06 at 00:37:58, Sean_C wrote:
When researchers begin gathering information and ideas regarding possible future studies and clinical trials, they don't want much info spread around public sites. Research is not only their job, but their future and their life's work. The only time anything can be released is when the researchers and the institution they work for, allows it to be released. There are very fine and definate lines drawn about what and when things can be released. There is certainly no patent pending on this as its still in its infancy. But, it's just as if someone had a great idea about a new energy source to replace gas fired engines. Even if its just in the idea stage.....the idea isn't plastered all over the internet looking for possible funding. In that case, obviously, people aren't going to fund research into a new energy source before they know more details, but, the details only have to be passed along to the few that may be interested, and are in a position to, fund "a" new energy source. In this case, all she is looking for are numbers of people in the area that fit the profile of people they need for a study. Simple question, do you fit the profile? You gave the answer she was looking for. Hopefully she got 20 other PMs from lurkers in the area. Don gave the answer we've come to expect. He said no, even if he fits the profile, he wants nothing to do with cluster research, no matter what is involved. (considering he already declined, without knowing the details...simple) Bobw |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by maria9 on Jun 11th, 2006, 2:43am Ya know what, I am sorry that I ever brought this up, I originally was looking for potential subjects in the Boston area for a prospective/preliminary study, at this point, based upon the replies here I would hope that you would respect my wishes and let this thread die. Marsha |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by KingOfPain on Jun 11th, 2006, 3:27am "have CH, smoke" "I was trying to determine if there are enough men smokers with CH" It has been shown, smokers [male & female] as well as non-smokers have CH. See the survey section to the left [click the button, tab, whatever you want to call them]. <-----------------< ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Edit to add info: http://i5.tinypic.com/1427hb5.jpg 48% non-smokers VS. 50% smokers. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- I guess I'm missing the point. You want to lauch a study to tell us something we already know? [smiley=huh.gif] |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by zwibbs/Scott on Jun 11th, 2006, 3:40am Hey Marsha. I believe it was Columbia University, but I might be wrong.....A study was done on three factors...One was smoking ( also the intake on second hand smoke) another was Alcohol---( from wine and beer to the heavies) and the third was dairy products. I read it in relation to headaches. The study centered around Migraines and the relative fixation on these three factors. The one thing that struck me was when people who suffered from migraines were told that smoking intensified their pain, they refused to perform a fast of one--two---and three days of going smoke-free.Altria ( formerly Phillip Morris) has been accused of lacing cigarettes with stronger additives that cause a stronger addiction....I followed it but it seemed to disappear. I know of two people who stopped smoking who also had their painful headaches disappear. I don't think they suffered from "Clusters" but still in all their headaches ( to this date at least) have not come back. I know that you mentioned smoking only ....but the report I refer to also stated Liquor ---did not generally cause migraines but it raised the descriptive pain to a whole new high level.........The same for dairy products ?!?!?!! I know that there have been hundreds of tests on dairy products regarding certain cancers.....such as Prostate Cancer. But I didn't know that they also were used in pain threshold tests. If you need any info PM me. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 6:26am Quote:
From A-Z with no thought in between. Hows the Harvard study coming along? Typical. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Bob P on Jun 11th, 2006, 8:11am Quote:
Dude, Pinky is Clusterbusters. Nani is a big CB fan. Maria (or Maria's husband) donated $50k to MAPS for the CB study. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 8:20am When I see Pinkfloyd I think of 2 things, Pet Rocks and Chia Pets. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by john_d on Jun 11th, 2006, 8:25am I think of all the people he helped with his research, which is alot more than I probably ever will. The alternatives may not be for everybody, but it's helped alot of people including chronic everyday/everynight CH sufferers get real substantial relief. That's all I am gonna say about that. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Roxy on Jun 11th, 2006, 11:11am on 06/11/06 at 08:25:12, john_d wrote:
Thanks for that statement john. When I think of Bob, I think of somebody who has devoted the majority of his time to helping others overcome this horrible disease. I know he has spent hours, days, months helping me try to get a handle on being chronic. I have never met such an unselfish individual. Maria, sorry for the responses in this thread. Wish I was male and lived in Boston (well, not really, but you know what I mean... :P), I would love to help out however I could. Good luck, and let us know if something comes of the study. Tracey |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Melissa on Jun 11th, 2006, 11:19am Do they have a shoppers, or buyer's guide in the Boston area where you could take out a small ad? I don't know how much something like that would cost, but you might get a more accurate response that way instead of on here, as I'm sure there are many ch'ers without internet access. Good luck! :)mel |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Bob P on Jun 11th, 2006, 1:20pm Quote:
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 1:47pm Best I can tell there still is no study being conducted. Still pending? |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by vig on Jun 11th, 2006, 2:37pm on 06/11/06 at 11:11:53, Roxy wrote:
This is BobW she is referring to, not BobP. Do NOT confuse the two. night and day and CHewy, give it a f'n rest |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 3:02pm Quote:
LMAO! Thread has 744 views. What would people do if I give it a rest? LOL |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by LeLimey on Jun 11th, 2006, 3:17pm Chewy, the Jack Russell of ch.com. Small and a little bit smelly, yaps incessantly and has an uncontrollable urge to piss on every post. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 3:37pm Quote:
Only those that scream to be pissed on. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Ueli on Jun 11th, 2006, 4:21pm Was it mentioned lately? |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Redd715 on Jun 11th, 2006, 6:28pm on 06/11/06 at 16:21:47, Ueli wrote:
I think we came to the consensus that indeed.... He swallows |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 11th, 2006, 6:51pm Thanks Ueli. I've been waiting for someone to get it! Old school. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Bob P on Jun 11th, 2006, 7:28pm Quote:
Unlike the rest of the pack that follows along blindly with their tails waggin'! Quote:
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Slammy on Jun 12th, 2006, 4:02pm Heh.. Maria, if you come further south, I am sure you would get a better response! :D Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 12th, 2006, 4:41pm Slammy!! Slamm, Bam, where the fuck ya been ya ham! |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Slammy on Jun 12th, 2006, 4:53pm on 06/12/06 at 16:41:04, chewy wrote:
I've been getting the life sucked out of me here in the South! :o Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Bob P on Jun 12th, 2006, 5:04pm Quote:
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Slammy on Jun 13th, 2006, 10:33am on 06/12/06 at 17:04:00, Bob P wrote:
Carolina! ;;D How's it going Boob? :D I see it rains like hell on the Gold coast since I left! :) Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Bob P on Jun 13th, 2006, 12:50pm Yep. We got some real good rain late in the season. Made the hills nice and green and caused an exceptional hayfever season. Starting to brown off now so we should also get a good fire season out of it. I spent a couple of months at the Navy base in Charleston, SC years ago but that was during the winter. |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by Slammy on Jun 13th, 2006, 12:54pm The worse part about this place is that it makes my eyes gunk up! I had contacts for over 20 years in SoCal and never needed drops. Here they gunk up before lunch! it's like looking through a kaleidascope! ;;D They do have bitchin thunderstorms. We had a lightning strike next door and it scared the bajeepers out of me! :o Slammy 8) |
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Title: Re: from boston area, CH, and male? Post by chewy on Jun 13th, 2006, 7:43pm Quote:
Well for Christ Sakes! DO A STUDY! |
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