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(Message started by: Jonny on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:28pm)

Title: YO FLO!!
Post by Jonny on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:28pm

Ever heard of this?....is it BS?

Anyone?

http://media.putfile.com/HHO-GAS

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by brewcrew on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:32pm

My only question: 100 miles on 4 ounces of water and how much electricity?

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by john_d on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:32pm

that's fricken amazing, it sounds to good to be true but it's a real news story

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by pattik on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:38pm

Iceland has been working at becoming independant from oil for a long time now. I think California even opened a hydrogen filling station somewhere. Here is a link to the Iceland story:
http://www.worldpress.org/europe/0123iceland.htm

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by brewcrew on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:38pm

on 06/02/06 at 16:32:28, john_d wrote:

that's fricken amazing, it sounds to good to be true but it's a real news story

It is a real news story, but one must ALWAYS evaluate "real" news stories based on what they DON'T report as well as what they DO report.

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by john_d on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 4:48pm

I thought about the electricity thing too, I was also wondering if there was another material involved for the electrolysis process he was talking about. If it really works, he is probably going to get offed by the oil companies.

edit
Actually here is the device

http://hytechapps.com/applications/index.html

it uses 220 so it must need alot of amps to run

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by floridian on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 5:25pm

on 06/02/06 at 16:32:11, brewcrew wrote:

My only question: 100 miles on 4 ounces of water and how much electricity?

Yup. Unless you can find hydrogen laying around in the ground (not likely), then hydrogen is not a fuel - it is an energy storage medium, a chemical battery. Water can be split to make hydrogen and oxygen, which takes slightly more energy than can be recovered by burning the hydrogen. If you have lots of electricity (like Iceland does), it makes sense to convert the electricity to a portable form, even though some is lost.

Windmills are becoming more efficient and cheaper than coal electricity - we could expand our wind energy and produce lots of clean electricity, and convert some of that to hydrogen. The hydrogen storage technologies still need work - it is bulky and potentially explosive at present, who wants to ride around Reykjavik in the Hindenbus?

Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by Ueli on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 6:46pm

Assume a economy car that uses only 3 gallons of gas for 100 miles.
These 3 gallons contain roughly 1500 gram of hydrogen and 9000 gram of carbon to burn.

This guy replaces this by 13 gram of hydrogen from 4 ounces of water.
He must have found a way to increase efficiency to 5000% or he re-invented cold fusion. ;;D

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Title: Re: YO FLO!!
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Jun 2^nd, 2006, 9:26pm

It does take more energy to convert water into hydrogen than the hydrogen will produce. So, if you used 1KW of electricity to convert hydrogen, you would get farther if you just stored the power in a battery and used it.
This means that at this present time, hydrogen power is extremely inefficient compared to other power sources.

B$