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Title: Public tox'n Post by cootie on May 10th, 2006, 11:14pm I can't beleive the shit I seen on the news they were doin in Texas........task force walking into bars and clubs busting people for pubic intoxication.......even busted people that were in hotel bars and were staying at the hotel and walking down the hall to there rooms !!! Got people that had drivers also and even busted bartenders that served them. Got people that walked there too and didn't drive. Guess they had to give it up for a bit but may start back up this summer and have to change a few things.....said they would concentrate on people in the parking lots more outside the bars or clubs. They did say on the news Ohio has no plan as of yet to start doin it......but that it is ILLEGAL to get a buzz in public and that you could be busted at campgrounds or anywhere if they wanted to push it. I don't get it !? I'm not a drunk and only drink when I go out or sittin out back relaxin from time to time.......but this is gettin outa hand. Shouldn't we concentrate on gettin REAL drunks off the roads......this is jus makein it too easy for cops and they don't have to LOOK for drunks. Just nail everyone ! My doc even mentiond that sum meds people are takeing could get ya in trouble and sum docs are afraid to sciprt them now. And if ya get into a fender bender ins co's won't pay if they find out your on medication even tho it is scripted doses and legal and no buzz deals. Am I dreaming Pam There takein the F U out of fun dam it !!!!! |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Richr8 on May 10th, 2006, 11:21pm on 05/10/06 at 23:14:30, cootie wrote:
While I don't agree with busting folks in hotels that have rooms, impaired is impaired whether by alcohol or prescription meds, someone coul be killed. When in cycle and on meds, I always think about what would happen if I were pulled over. Could I walk the line? |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jimi on May 11th, 2006, 12:11am Quote:
You got a link for that Cootie? |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by BobG on May 11th, 2006, 12:18am In California the law says no drinking IN or NEAR a vehicle. If you are drinking a beer while washing your car in your own driveway you can go to jail. |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by BlueMeanie on May 11th, 2006, 12:39am Something fishing about this thread. What's up Cootie ? Can't be real. |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Kevin_M on May 11th, 2006, 6:56am I lived in Houston in the early 80's and was surprised to see the police come walking through the bar looking for anyone drunk. I thought it was a myth but locals were pretty aware of the PI law. this one's fairly new http://www.houstontx.gov/police/nr/2006/nr042706-1.htm In addition to seeking violent criminals, officers will be conducting public intoxication sweeps, DWI traffic enforcement, civility ordinance enforcement and use of bike and foot patrols. this one seems a little older http://www.houstontx.gov/police/operation_renaissance.htm Pillar 3 - Nuisance Abatement The Division Nuisance Abatement (DNA) Squad is the centerpiece of this entire initiative. The squad consists of a highly motivated uniformed supervisor and equally motivated uniformed officers, who remain flexible and willing to deal with chronic and persistent problems. Some of the scenarios addressed by the DNA Squad are: Public Drunkenness / Public Intoxication Aggressive Panhandling Suspected Prostitution Activity Persons Obstructing Sidewalks or Abusing Bus Stop Areas Consumption of Alcohol in areas where signs prohibit consumption Possession / Consumption of Alcohol by Minors Persons acting in a Disorderly or Threatening Manner (especially in front of a business) Persons Damaging the Property of Another Persons Urinating in Public Trespassers Groups of People Obstructing Access to Public Areas Possible Narcotics Activity on the Street Littering There are ordinances and laws on the second link above that can be searched. |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Donna_D. on May 11th, 2006, 8:20am http://www.nbc5i.com/news/8169246/detail.html It happened all right. DD |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by superhawk2300 on May 11th, 2006, 8:29am Wild crap. In WI the limit for driving is .08 (I think, they keep lowering it) and there cannot be any open booze in the car. You also can't be in your car when "drunk" with the keys on the in the car either, even if the car hasn't been driven in weeks. So don't try sleeping it off in your car. Now I know several states that people inthe car can drink, just not the driver and some where eventhe driver can be drinking, just not drunk. Crazy stuff to keep straight. |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by BarbaraD on May 11th, 2006, 8:31am But we live in a democracy -- this can't happen - Right? I agree Cootie - this is ridiculous. A few years back I was in a hotel in Seattle (staying at the hotel) and this other woman and I were acting "silly" - neither of us had even had a drink. The bartender refused to serve us one because he said we'd had enough - hell we act this way sober! After a "fashion" we got our one drink and managed to get to the elevator and our room. Geezzz! So now, if I have a drink in Texas (or don't have one and am acting "silly") I can get arrested for PI. Great! You'd think with all the criminals running around, the police would have better things to do, but I guess drunks are easy pickin's. Hugs BD |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by minnie on May 11th, 2006, 9:23am I believe this is being handled wrong and I will try to explain in Minnie ramble....First off driving after drinking is always a bad idea call a cab,call a friend or take turns being a dessinated driver.Around here some bars stamp the hands of dessinated drivers and you get free soda (I know cuz usually I'm the D.D)I know Linda Howell's family has been changed by a drunk driver hitting her son's car.How's he doing Linda? haven't heard a update in a while. We have cops that sit in front of bars waiting for someone to stagger from there car and start it,I believe this is fine because if they start the car yeah their gonna try to drive.We also have a problem with people getting drunk at private parties and driving instead of staying over night and do the above.then theres the back woods paties for those under age.we also have people think that driving back roads is safer no cops little traffic.Hello people still use these roads.Plus we have many who stop after work and are drunk on the roads week days, I believe police need to be on the roads not going in bars arresting people who will be walking and desinated drivers.It is easy to underestimate you ability to drive and your reflex time once you've been drinking.I know I have been guilty of the "I just have a good buzz"mindset luckily I make arrangements before I go out to drink so I don't have to rely on my mindset after drinking.I'm single and can't remember the last time I went to a bar and had some drinks.I stay home and have a wine cooler now and then but usually just have soda if I go out. Minnie |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Charlie on May 11th, 2006, 10:20am This seems to me more dangerous to the enforcers than to the drinkers. I sure as hell wouldn't want to try to enforce this in Buffalo, New York barrooms after the Sabres win like they did last night. Scary http://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/standart/scare2.gif?SSImageQuality=Full I guess they'd haul me off too if I had a seizure at the dinner table in the hotel. Epileptics have this kind of problem now and then. I'm moving to Oslo and drink from Svenn's liquor cabinet. Charlie |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Chip80 on May 11th, 2006, 11:01am This type of information only serves to further my absolute distrust of law enforcement/cops. Things are not much better in Michigan. In Mt. Pleasant, MI cops randomly stop college students walking around in the evening and request a breathalizer test to see if they have been drinking. If they refuse they get a ticket. Total complete BS. A couple of students that were stone sober sued the police and won - justice finally. My son noticed a female student in distress and contacted the police to help her. Later the police attempted several times to intimidate my son into giving a DNA sample just to prove he was not involved with the girls sexual assault, even though they said he was not a suspect.. My son told the cop to get a warrant, which they never did. So I guess it's guilty until proven innocent (by DNA test) in Mt. Pleasant MI. Cops - F**k 'em |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by tanner on May 11th, 2006, 11:09am Hey Y'all, in most states a number of very common sex acts are illegal and if the man wanted to he could start doing sweeps for those too ;;D Why is it you never see anyone getting hassled for this in Vegas until after they have had a wreck? .....tim |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Linda_Howell on May 11th, 2006, 11:59am Quote:
My 22 yr. old was in a truck in the fast lane of a freeway in Los Angeles. A drunk (4 times the limit) hit them head-on going 70mph. He had gotten on the freeway going the WRONG WAY. Both drivers were decapitated and my son will never be the same after spinal surgery and a month in the hospital. As adament as I am about this subject for obvious reasons........THAT is not the same thing as staying in a hotel and having a drink at the bar. OR....having a designated driver....OR having a beer at a campground where you're staying. Quote:
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Ghost on May 11th, 2006, 12:46pm Unfortunatly it is true. they did it for a while then stopped but they said the will start again soon. Mike |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jimi on May 11th, 2006, 1:21pm Well I still learn something everyday. 27 years with the Ky State Police and I have never heard of police going into a bar to arrest drunks for the sole purpose of seeing who is drunk. Amazing. Oh, and by the way Chip. F**K you too. >:( |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Redd715 on May 11th, 2006, 1:46pm Jimi, You know I love ya....feel better? :-* |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by tanner on May 11th, 2006, 1:53pm Jimi, who would a thunk it :) Since everyone is always thanking vets for their service I just want you to know that extends out to Police, Firefighters, Medics, Nurses, Teachers and on and on! Service is service and I know I have left a lot of other public servants out but you get the picture.. .......Thanks....tim ....now can i speed a little next time I need to go thru The Bluegrass State ;;D |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jimi on May 11th, 2006, 1:57pm Thanks Tanner. I can't help you anymore. I am retired and out of the loop. I know you do Pegg. :-* |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by cootie on May 11th, 2006, 8:10pm Shew glad suma you guys didn't end up thinkin I was makein shit up or nuts......thanks for the links to it all Kev and everyone else's input with info. I am ALL FOR gettin and keepin drunks OFF the roads trust me......I'm not even a big drinker at all (yeah I do love to tho when out or on vacation and not driveing) so I'm not bitchin bout all this cuz I wanna go out and drink and drive. It''s this crap about arresting people and puttin em thru hell and expense and embarrassment when they ARE being responsible esp ones stayin in a hotel and hangin out in the hotel bar for sum fun. We do that ever so often with our group we hang out with.....we get rooms at a hotel with a nice bar/resturant so NO ONE drives and we can all sit and yak and yuk it up and have a few. Now this is illegal ? Where is it all gonna end is what I am gettin at also. A person NEEDS to have an outlet and gettin a driver to go out that doesn't drink.....or takein a cab or walkin home or to a hotel should be ok and safe. I was at my friends tavern for dinner and she "refused" a guy that walked in with some other people and stumbled....he wasn't even driveing !!!! She said she HAS to crack down cuz SHE could get in trouble. Even havein a bonfire with friends over and settin up 'camp' in yer backyard COULD get ya busted with suma this shit goin on. In town ya can't sit on her front porch with a beer.......and ya can't have a big cookout in yer back yard if there are more then 4 people or sumthin like that. Good grief !!!! I think we need to get the DRUNKS confined or put away and kept off the roads......I'm half afraid to go out now and laugh too loud or if I stumble (which I can do at any given moment anyhow with my back) without bein told to LEAVE or handcuffed and drug out. The eagle fly's on Friday and a person needs to play (responsibly) Pam Jimi.....I'm a sucker for a man in uniform !!! 8) What if they start makein it illegal to wear sexy clothes cuz ya mite attract pervs or affend others........the list goes on and on and on and on........... |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jonny on May 11th, 2006, 8:53pm on 05/11/06 at 13:21:18, Jimi wrote:
Got to love it, Jimi.......the first person they scream for help when being beatin about the head is a COP ;;D Go figure.....LOL ;) |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Linda_Howell on May 11th, 2006, 9:47pm Quote:
Yes. The guy was wayyyy out of line with that one Jimi. Most of you guys in blue are all right. Including my oldest son..who, day after day... deals with pervs, idiots & helps innocent victims and and risks his life as an L.A. Cop. The rules are wrong here. Not the cops who enforce them. Linda Linda |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jimi on May 11th, 2006, 10:40pm Thanks guys.......actually we wear gray. We are called The Thin Gray Line. Chip probably had a bad experience with one. There are pricks wearing the uniform just like any other agency. Except Kentucky. We are all saints here of course. ;) |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by thebbz on May 11th, 2006, 11:05pm He didn't mean it Jimi. Love and doughnuts to you. I hate it for ya Chip...cops are people too. Always a few ruin it for the good ones. I am a bigger jerk than any policeman. jb |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by superhawk2300 on May 12th, 2006, 9:11am Just some FYI for convention goers - Milwaukee cops are a-holes and incompitent. If one is aorund best lay low - very bad problem here. I also go to TX for work - I am leaving next week for my latest trip - should I be worried about drinking in a bar? |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by minnie on May 12th, 2006, 9:56am Cootie, I think everyone knows that you don't condone drinking and driving.you've mentioned in the past your group of friends getting hotel rooms to party safely.The points you brought up were definate.Don't worry it's all good. Jimi, I know we have you and a couple active and retired police officers on the board.You all have my respect and gratitude for hard job and Long hours. my hats off to the families off the officers I would be costantly worrrying because the world has become a scary place.I know around my hometown we have some great officers and then a few that tarnish the reputation of the dept. Minnie |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Chip80 on May 12th, 2006, 1:56pm The cops can try to mess with me and intimidate me all they want. If I’ve done nothing wrong I’m shoving their crap right back at them. But, when you mess with my wife or kids, who have clearly done nothing wrong, I’m going to snap! To further clarify my son’s ordeal, the cop continually hassled him during his final exam study week, taking him away from study time and study groups. My son lost a $5000 scholarship because his grade point dropped by a half a point, due to that bastard that wouldn’t leave him alone when he needed to study. Again, all my son did was try to help a girl he found outside of a campus building in distress. I’m sure next time he sees anyone in distress he’ll just look the other way and keep on walking. So yeah, I’m $5000 worth of pissed at the moment. >:( Or maybe I should not be pissed about the time that the cop wrote on the police report that my daughter performed a “dangerous action” by stopping in the isle of a parking lot when a drunk backed into her car. After all, nobody ever stops in the isle of parking lots, not even to wait for a car to back out, right? Or maybe I should not be pissed about our family friend who was walking home at night, got jumped and had the shit beat out of him by a bunch of guys. Even though my friend doesn’t drink at all, the cops insisted that he was probably drunk and in essence deserved what he got. If you are or were a cop that treated innocent people like shit, then I offer no apologies. If this type of behavior didn’t/doesn’t apply to you then please disregard my anger. |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Jimi on May 12th, 2006, 2:32pm Sounds like all the police officers in Farmington Hills are bastages. Sure glad I don't live there. Doesn't sound very safe. :) |
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Title: Re: Public tox'n Post by Chip80 on May 12th, 2006, 2:44pm The town is Mt. Pleasant Michigan, where Central Michigan University is. The town of 25,000 has 4 police departments - State, County, Campus and Tribal (Ojibway/Chippewa) . Maybe they're all trying to outdo each other for the badass award. I've lived in Farmington Hills for 24 years, and never had any dealings with the police here. |
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