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(Message started by: Jonny on Mar 15th, 2006, 6:06pm)

Title: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 15th, 2006, 6:06pm
How does this shit happen?

"The fact that Hashemi didn’t do the actual killing does not absolve him; Goebbels didn’t shoot anyone either. Equally, the fact that he is now retired means nothing — he isn’t "redeemed" by his retirement any more than a mafia gangster would be. I do not care to have this fellow in my dining hall, my college, or my country."

http://powerlineblog.com/archives/013420.php

This dude is something like 25 years old.....are we inviting terrorists into our country now?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 15th, 2006, 6:08pm
If you are talking about the young man who ran the people over at UNC

I say

Try him in the morning and shoot him in the afternoon.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 15th, 2006, 6:27pm
Incase the link didnt work for you, Burt, I copied and pasted here for you.

March 14, 2006
Thank you, Senator Cornyn

NRO's Phi Beta Cons brings us Senator Cornyn's letter to DHS Secretary Michael Chertoff:

Dear Secretary Chertoff:

I write to you regarding Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi, the former Taliban spokesman currently attending Yale University on a student visa.

In 2005, Congress passed the REAL ID Act and expanded the terror-related grounds of inadmissibility. Under current law, an alien is inadmissible or removable on terror-related grounds if he is a representative of any designated or nondesignated terrorist organization. Further, an alien is inadmissible or removable if the alien endorses or espouses terrorist activity or persuades others to endorse or espouse terrorist activity or support a terrorist organization. The REAL ID is clear that the grounds of inadmissibility and removal apply regardless of when the conduct in question occurred.

Mr. Hashemi was an official spokesman for the Taliban, which gave safe haven and other material support to Al Qaeda and Osama bin Laden, and continued to do so even after the terrorist attacks of September 11th. Yet the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) admitted him into the United States on an F-1 student visa. I would like to know what steps the Department of Homeland Security is taking to determine whether Mr. Hashemi was properly admitted and whether the Department of Homeland Security will seek to deport Mr. Hashemi under one of the terror-related grounds of removal.

I am also concerned about the Department of Homeland Security’s role in reviewing Mr. Hashemi’s student visa application prior to its issuance. The report of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States concluded that the key officials responsible for determining alien admissions (consular officers abroad and immigration inspectors in the United States) were not considered full partners in counterterrorism efforts prior to September 11, 2001, and as a result, opportunities to intercept the September 11 terrorists were missed.

Congress subsequently passed the Homeland Security Act, and section 428 allows DHS to assign staff to consular posts abroad to advise consular officers, review visa applications, and conduct investigations. Yet it is not clear that DHS officials were afforded an opportunity to review Mr. Hashemi’s visa application prior to its issuance. Please provide an update on the progress DHS is making in assigning officers to the consulate in Islamabad and whether those officers are fully integrated into the visa screening process.

Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Sincerely,

JOHN CORNYN
United States Senator


And thank you, Professor Gelernter. Elsewhere at Phi Beta Cons, David Gelernter observes:

The intelligentsia haven’t told Yalies what to think yet because even they haven’t made up their minds. Students aren’t sure how far their liberal open-mindedness is supposed to go.

Hashemi was a member of an evil and macabre terrorist group. Worse yet, he became their official spokesman and apologist to the world for their crimes — the Afghani Goebbels. The Taliban were not, as some suggest, a group of benevolent Afghani governors, but a gang of terrorists. Here’s the first of a series of Taliban-committed outrages listed in a Human Rights Watch report on the group:

Yakaolang and Bamiyan districts, June 2001: After retaking central Yakaolang, Taliban forces under the command of Mullah Dadaullah burned about 4,500 houses, 500 shops, and public buildings. As they retreated east, they continued to burn villages and to detain and kill Shi'a Hazara civilians in villages and side valleys in eastern Yakaolang and the western part of Bamiyan district.
The fact that Hashemi didn’t do the actual killing does not absolve him; Goebbels didn’t shoot anyone either. Equally, the fact that he is now retired means nothing — he isn’t "redeemed" by his retirement any more than a mafia gangster would be. I do not care to have this fellow in my dining hall, my college, or my country.

Posted by Scott at 07:15 PM

Title: Re: Why?
Post by maffumatt on Mar 15th, 2006, 7:11pm
ROTC out Taliban in.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 15th, 2006, 8:15pm
Very simple solution.

Try him and inject him. I have no tolerance for this bullshit. Even Though I am a supporter of Bush there some things that I think he has just missed the boat on. Illegal immigration from Mexico and elswhere and these fucking pieces of shit who think they can turn the USA in to another terrorist killing field.

Jonny I am going out on a limb here. The muslims may not like it but this is my take.

I believe most muslims want to kill us. I really believe this. I don't see too many muslims in this country that say they are law abiding speaking out to harshly against this shit. When push comes to shove we are the enemy.

There will be someone that will disagree with me here but that's just the way I feel. There is a double standard hear. I'll tell you this if you or I did what this guy did we would be fucked up so quick our heads would spin. They are probably serving him Filet Mignon right now.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 15th, 2006, 8:23pm

on 03/15/06 at 20:15:50, cardogman wrote:
I believe most muslims want to kill us. I really believe this. I don't see too many muslims in this country that say they are law abiding speaking out to harshly against this shit. When push comes to shove we are the enemy.

Burt


Burt I tend to disagree with that statement. I know some Muslims and they hate the way some of there brethren are acting, because of the statement you made. If you look at the fundamentals of Islam you would be surprised to the similarities.
Just like Islam and Christianity there are extremist in all religions. Take a look back at David Koresh, Jim Jones. Just to name two. You cant look at a group and call them all bad just because there are a few bad. In this case all the public hears about is the extremist.
Just my two cents and it ain't worth much.

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 15th, 2006, 8:31pm

on 03/15/06 at 20:23:58, medic1852 wrote:
In this case all the public hears about is the extremist.


Thats true, Rodg....but you never hear the leaders of the Muslims crying out that what the extremists are doing is wrong either....at least not on my radio or TV.

Are they blind?...or just stupid?



Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 15th, 2006, 8:37pm
That is true Jonny. The Islamic leaders should stand up and be "leaders" and try to put a stop to allot of this. The Muslims that I spoke of are Doctors that I have met while working as a medic. But it is the "leaders" responsibility to condemn the action of the extremist.

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 15th, 2006, 10:25pm
There may be some as I alluded to. However I have to agree with Jonny on this one.

These people generally hate us and the Doctors would never speak out against us unless they are that fucking right hand man Doctor friend and terrorist of Bin Laden. The Muslim Docs in this country know where their bread is buttered.

But let me ask you this would you let one of them stick their finger up your ass and check your prostate.

I don't think so and I sure as hell wouldn't let them near me. :o

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Charlie on Mar 16th, 2006, 3:46am

Quote:
Thats true, Rodg....but you never hear the leaders of the Muslims crying out that what the extremists are doing is wrong either....at least not on my radio or TV.


I hate to say it but I lean toward Jonny and Burt on this one.....at least here. It's exactly what Tom Friedman writes about in his columns. He writes that it would be nice if some of the self-proclaimed America-loving Islamic citizens would make a point of their disgust for extremists that do so much to make life miserable, but they don't.

On thing you can bet is that I feel so much better knowing that Homeland Security is on the job.... http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/cheesyrotfm.gif http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/pink drown.gif

Charlie

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Kevin_M on Mar 16th, 2006, 6:14am
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060119/NEWS05/601190471/1007/NEWS


(excerpts)
With kidnappers in Iraq saying they will kill a journalist raised in Ann Arbor unless their demands are met by a looming deadline, Arab-Americans and Muslim groups from across southeastern Michigan pleaded for her immediate release Wednesday, calling her abduction a violation of Islamic principles.

............/ /

Meanwhile in Ann Arbor, where Carroll, 28, grew up, friends maintained a patient vigil, asked by Carroll's mother, now living in Illinois, to remain silent for fear of angering her captors.

............/ /

On Wednesday, several Arab-American and Islamic groups -- not to mention individual Muslims -- in southeastern Michigan condemned the kidnapping.

"It's just unbelievable that any cause could be advanced by holding someone hostage, especially someone who's demonstrated an affinity for Islam and Arab culture," said Dawud Walid, head of the Michigan branch of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

In Dearborn, the Michigan branch of the American-Arab Anti-Discrimination Committee, the nation's largest Arab-American group, demanded Carroll's safe release. Imad Hamad, head of the Michigan branch of the committee, said her death would be "against all humanitarian standards and is indeed against the values and principles of the Islamic faith."

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:14am
Condemning is " talking the talk. " But these people need to" walk the walk "  and they are not going to do it.
The reason they are not going to do it is because they are cowards.

Remember Salmon Rushdie the author. A number of years ago the guy wrote a book describing some of the double standards of the islamic faith.  

How long after that did he have to be in hiding in fear that these lunatics would off him. I think about 10 years. The whole islamic world had a contract out on him

Now what happens if Jonny or me or Kevin or any of us spoke out against our religion would the Catholic world, Protestant world, Jewish world or any of the other Judeo/ Christian religions put a contract out on ius.

These people are fanatics, murderers and low lives. They can't be trusted, they are jealous of our way of life, they want to rule the world and they think there should be only one religion in the world.

The guy in Iran for example is campaigning to get his people to believe there was no Holocaust. This is the next guy that must go. We need to blow off his fucking head to kingdom come ASAP.

This is the reason why I feel that we need to be in the Mid East right now.

You can't trust these bastards and we need to send them back in to their holes before they cause any more damage.

Bunch of scumbags all of them.

burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Kevin_M on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:31am

on 03/16/06 at 07:14:28, cardogman wrote:
These people are fanatics, murderers and low lives. They can't be trusted, they are jealous of our way of life, they want to rule the world and they think there should be only one religion in the world.


With a community of about 350,000 Arab Americans in this city, just under half Muslim living peacefully with Arab Christians in the same neighborhood, it's not newsmaking.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:51am

on 03/16/06 at 07:14:28, cardogman wrote:
Now what happens if Jonny or me or Kevin or any of us spoke out against our religion would the Catholic world, Protestant world, Jewish world or any of the other Judeo/ Christian religions put a contract out on ius.


burt


Spanish Inquisition...The Crusades...The Holocaust....The Salem Witch trials....were these not examples of the "Christian Faith" condemning those who did not believe as they did?

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by john_d on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:58am

on 03/16/06 at 07:51:14, medic1852 wrote:
Spanish Inquisition...The Crusades...The Holocaust....The Salem Witch trials....were these not examples of the "Christian Faith" condemning those who did not believe as they did?

Rodger


that was a long time ago, the reality is that many fundamentalist muslims want us, as incorrigible infidels -dead- now.



Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:07am
The truth be known I see both sides and in fact have been just trying not to argue but to throw a different perspective in the ring. Just playing the "Devils Advocate".
Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:11am
We dont need to be in the Middle East. Jihads and tribal wars and civil wars have continued for centuries and our military might is not going to stop it.

We got rid of Khomneini (sp?), Khaddafi stepped up, we squashed him, Hussien stepped up, we ousted him, the guy in Iran stepped up.

We need our military right here at home at the borders. The terrorist  that threaten our society and way of life comes from within.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:12am
Found this with a quick search just some food for thought.

In the United States, Islam is the fastest growing religion, a trend fueled mostly by immigration. There are 5 million to 7 million Muslims in the United States. They make up between 10,000 and 20,000 members of the American military.

The actual site link if you want....
http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Oct2001/n10042001_200110043.html

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:15am

on 03/16/06 at 08:11:44, chewy wrote:
We need our military right here at home at the borders. The terrorist  that threaten our society and way of life comes from within.


I kinda support isolationism..
Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by schinnen on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:23am

on 03/16/06 at 07:14:28, cardogman wrote:
Condemning is " talking the talk. " But these people need to" walk the walk "  and they are not going to do it.
The reason they are not going to do it is because they are cowards.

Remember Salmon Rushdie the author. A number of years ago the guy wrote a book describing some of the double standards of the islamic faith.  

How long after that did he have to be in hiding in fear that these lunatics would off him. I think about 10 years. The whole islamic world had a contract out on him

Now what happens if Jonny or me or Kevin or any of us spoke out against our religion would the Catholic world, Protestant world, Jewish world or any of the other Judeo/ Christian religions put a contract out on ius.

These people are fanatics, murderers and low lives. They can't be trusted, they are jealous of our way of life, they want to rule the world and they think there should be only one religion in the world.

The guy in Iran for example is campaigning to get his people to believe there was no Holocaust. This is the next guy that must go. We need to blow off his fucking head to kingdom come ASAP.

This is the reason why I feel that we need to be in the Mid East right now.

You can't trust these bastards and we need to send them back in to their holes before they cause any more damage.

Bunch of scumbags all of them.

burt


Gee Burt-sorry, I mean cardogman-not so long ago similar sentifments were expressed about the Jews.  Following your line of reasoning, I guess Hitler and the Nazis really weren't war criminals after all since you appear to want to get rid of the Muslims-anywhere in the world-just because they are Muslims and the Nazis wanted to get rid of the Jews because they were Jews-different from us non Jews-non Muslims.  You sound like one tough guy, yes indeed!  Sieg Heil! (and once we get rid of the Muslims, we can always go after you Jews again since there aren't so many).

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:45am

on 03/16/06 at 07:14:28, cardogman wrote:
Condemning is " talking the talk. " But these people need to" walk the walk "  and they are not going to do it.
The reason they are not going to do it is because they are cowards.

...

Bunch of scumbags all of them.

burt



Maybe your radio and TV are not doing a good job of informing you.  The tuning dial lets you monitor other stations - I heard about this on NPR, but bet it wasn't on FOX:  


Quote:
3 charged in terror plot; local suspects planned attacks in Iraq, U.S. says: Men accused of trying to build bombs

...

Authorities said they uncovered the plot with the help of a man who came to them 18 months ago. Code-named “the Trainer” in the indictment, he had been approached by Mr. El-Hindi to provide security and bodyguard training to the group.

Other members of the Muslim community had already gone to federal authorities with information regarding “violent and radical” statements made by the men. After the Trainer contacted them, law enforcement began actively pursuing him, officials said yesterday.

http://toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060222/NEWS03/60222005


Faulty generalizations about Muslims are no different than faulty generalizations about Jews, Christians, Asians, or other groups - they are faulty.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:53am

on 03/16/06 at 08:45:00, floridian wrote:
Maybe your radio and TV are not doing a good job of informing you.  The tuning dial lets you monitor other stations - I heard about this on NPR, but bet it wasn't on FOX:  


Whats wrong with Fox it is FAIR AND BALLANCED Bill O`Riley said so. :P I prefer coast to coast am, late night radio. [smiley=crackup.gif]

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 16th, 2006, 9:04am

on 03/16/06 at 08:53:02, medic1852 wrote:
Whats wrong with Fox it is FAIR AND BALLANCED Bill O`Riley said so. :P

Rodger


I put Billy O in the same category as our president, who said:
"See, in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in...to kind of catapult the propaganda."

Catapulting the propaganda.  But in a 'fair and balanced' way.  Just like the law that ignores mercury emissions by power plants is the 'clear skies act' and the program to monitor what you type on the internet is the total information awareness 'catch terrorists and evildoers before they can kill us all' program.  

Title: Re: Why?
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 16th, 2006, 4:21pm
Whats wrong with Fox it is FAIR AND BALLANCED Bill O`Riley said so.  I prefer coast to coast am, late night radio.  

Rodger --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------Faithful listener every night---however I prefer Art Bell over George Noory. Major Ed Dames is a trip. Guy hasn't predicted a thing EVER !!!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Kevin_M on Mar 16th, 2006, 5:29pm

Quote:
POSTWAR SCENARIO

All eyes on the homeland in Detroit's Iraqi community

Hope and anxiety as exiles imagine post-Hussein era

By Elizabeth A. Neuffer and Bryan Bender, Globe Staff and Globe Correspondent, 4/28/03

As President Bush arrives in Dearborn today to talk about postwar Iraq, the possibilities offered by the regime change in Baghdad are resounding throughout the Detroit area, where a cross section of Iraqis -- Chaldean Christians, Muslim Arabs, and Kurds -- coexist in a way that many hope will be the norm in their homeland.

(segment)
One family wonders how to return, having lost all they had when they tried in vain to help overthrow Hussein in 1991. About 15,000 Iraqis came to the Detroit area after Hussein crushed their rebellion.



Ms. Liberty's inscription welcomed these here from certain death.    We have more in common than might be apparent.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 16th, 2006, 6:32pm

on 03/16/06 at 16:21:54, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
Faithful listener every night---however I prefer Art Bell over George Noory. Major Ed Dames is a trip. Guy hasn't predicted a thing EVER !!!


I prefer Art Bell myself!http://bestsmileys.com/aliens/11.gif
Rodgerhttp://bestsmileys.com/aliens/10.gif

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:36pm
Much ot the stuff posted I can agree with. The Jewish thing was just a bit harsh from my side. Don't think it makes a whole lot of sense unless you happen to have antisemetic leanings.

For example:

What did the 6 million Jews do as a  people to deserve extermination?

What did the muslims do to affect me in such a way to comment that they should all die.

Now I admit that my comment is a little far fetched and aggressive but lets list a few things.

1. The World Trade Center twice
2. The USS Cole
3. The Iranian Hostage Crisis
4. Kidnapping innocent people and killing them.
5. Butchering their own people
and a host of ther things.

Did the Jews do anything to deserve to be gassed.

The person who tried to make an analogy about Hitler and the Jews.  Well as a Jew I take offense to that.

To keep the peace that's all I'll say.

That was a bad analogy even though my comment was very aggressive. I am sure there are some that are fine people.

I still think that the Muslims want the whole world to be Islamic and if they could they would try to make that happen.

Burt


Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 16th, 2006, 7:44pm

on 03/16/06 at 19:36:22, cardogman wrote:
The person who tried to make an analogy about Hitler and the Jews.  Well as a Jew I take offense to that.


He is questionable and only responds to certain posts, Im watching him  ;)

BTW: did you know that this punk attending Yale only made it to the fourth grade by our standards?


Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:49pm
Jonny,

You are talking about the guy with the Jewish comment I guess

With all the ranting I have done and the bad vibes I may have sent out I never once saw that guy post anything.

This guy may be a troll.  [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] This may be my opportunity. Too funny.

Thanks for the heads up.


Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 16th, 2006, 8:56pm
Burt,

You had a bad start, but its turned for the better.

This guy has three posts and they all deal with either religion, narcotis or post wars.

Ive been reading this board everyday for almost seven years......trust me!  ;)

Edit to add:........Unless its you.


on 03/16/06 at 20:49:24, cardogman wrote:
With all the ranting I have done and the bad vibes I may have sent out I never once saw that guy post anything.


Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 16th, 2006, 9:21pm
No I can be an not a very nice person but not this time.

I am glad that we are both coming around.

I never hold grudges for too long.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by stevegeebe on Mar 16th, 2006, 9:33pm
Crystal clear on these posts.

OBL kicked the USSR out of Afganistan and turned around and said, "Whose ass can I fuck with now?"

These people are sick fanatics and want to assimilate the globe to Islam.  I keep asking why?  

Am I missing something in a religion that has at its foundation an insistance that if you are not a zombie than we will cut your head off?

It's evil wrapped in religion and we had better get ready for the sake of our children.

Why indeed.

Steve G


Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 16th, 2006, 9:35pm

on 03/16/06 at 21:21:50, cardogman wrote:
No I can be an ass-hole but not this time.


Ok Burt, unless you are looking for posts by people fucking with this family you will not see them......even when you are you miss some.

I try to make it a point not to miss any!

Now that we are on an even keel, welcome aboard.

Start rowing (ask someone what that means)





Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 16th, 2006, 9:44pm

on 03/16/06 at 19:36:22, cardogman wrote:
Now I admit that my comment is a little far fetched and aggressive but lets list a few things.

1. The World Trade Center twice
2. The USS Cole
3. The Iranian Hostage Crisis
4. Kidnapping innocent people and killing them.
5. Butchering their own people
and a host of ther things.


1. Al Qaeda the first time, Al Qaeda the second
2. Al Qaeda
3. The CIA overthrows a democratically elected leader in Iran, reinstitutes and supports the monarchy of Shah Pahlavi, and the CIA trains the Shahs goons to torture - the stories about rape dogs are particularly touching.  And the US is suprised when the revolution pushes the Shah out and takes over the American embassy.  Sleepwalking fools.
4. The US in Abu Graib? Oh wait, Burt, you said you didn't care if a few innocent people were killed. Neither does Al Qaeda.  
5. Their own people?  That phrase is commonly used, but what does it mean?  Saddam "gassed his own people" except they weren't his own people, they were Kurds who happened to be in his way.  Does a dictator have his own people? And how does killing Kurds and Shiites compare to the repeated US policiy of encouraging the Kurds and Shiites to rebel against leaders we don't like, and then pulling all support away from them so that they are massacred?  Both are pretty despicable in my book.  

Again, Burt, it is an issue of faulty generalization.  One could say that people of European descent are more brutal towards each other than any other group - look at WWI, WWII, Post War Russia, the American 'Civil' War ...  clearly, each and every person of European ancestry is a killer or a supporter of the killers.  Are we not all Timothy McVeighs and Ted Bundys??  


Title: Re: Why?
Post by maffumatt on Mar 16th, 2006, 10:05pm

on 03/16/06 at 21:44:29, floridian wrote:
Again, Burt, it is an issue of faulty generalization.  One could say that people of European descent are more brutal towards each other than any other group - look at WWI, WWII, Post War Russia, the American 'Civil' War ...  clearly, each and every person of European ancestry is a killer or a supporter of the killers.  Are we not all Timothy McVeighs and Ted Bundys??  

Might want to relook that, look at Pol Pot, and Mao thats in Asia then look at the Sudan and Rawanda, just to mention a few .want to talk about savages, when it comes to cruelty no one race has a monopoly.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 16th, 2006, 10:09pm
Im going to write in "Flo" for the next presidential election ;;D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Charlie on Mar 16th, 2006, 10:39pm
Just want to catch up a bit. Not really targeted to the last few posts:


Quote:
Whats wrong with Fox it is FAIR AND BALLANCED Bill O`Riley said so.  I prefer coast to coast am, late night radio.


LOL http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/snicker point.giflate night radio. There's fountain of reasoned thought............

I plead guilty of not listening to it much. It used to be interesting before it got bought up by monsters.  

On the Nazi comparison. It was a German professional (maybe clergy) of some stripe that said something like this:  First they came for the Communists. I wasn't a Communist so I didn't object. Next they came came for the Jews. I wasn't a Jew so I didn't object. Then they came for the Catholics. I wasn't a Catholic so I didn't object. Then they came for me but there was no one left to object.

France has a very big Islamic population that really knows discrimination. Now, thanks to 9-11 and
the extremists, it's worse. I'm guilty of looking more than twice at similarly apprearing people.  I don't like myself for it but it's the case. The thing is that it brings to the surface an "us and them" situation that is right here, not always over there. I know only a tiny tiny fraction of them feel such hatred but it will take decades for it to settle down. The worst part is that by our actions, we are likely fanning the flames all over.

I'd like the media to show me more evidence of loyal American Muslims. I'm willing to look at this again but without some serious evidence, I have a tough time with it..... It doesn't sell air purifiers like good old suicide bombings though so I'm not holding my breath. http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/reading.gif?SSImageQuality=Full

Charlie

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 16th, 2006, 10:43pm

on 03/16/06 at 22:05:03, maffumatt wrote:
Might want to relook that, look at Pol Pot, and Mao thats in Asia then look at the Sudan and Rawanda, just to mention a few .want to talk about savages, when it comes to cruelty no one race has a monopoly.


Was going for hyperbole and over-exaggeration, Maffumatt.  I agree that nobody has a monopoly on brutality, and it would be hard to give out prizes for the most brutal. Just wanted to show that Muslims weren't the only group with a laundry list of atrocities, yet few people would make faulty generalizations from our own screw-ups. . And within each of those groups (Cambodians, Rwandans, Sudanese, Muslims, Europeans, etc) there are clearly good people and bad people. Which is very different from the ideas put forth by Burt and others --- that All Muslims are evil, they All want to kill us.  Clearly, some do.  When we get attacked by Al Qaeda, that deserves a vigorous response.  But confusing the actions of a few thousand people who are Al Qaeda affiliates with a group of over 1 billion people is stupid and dangerous.  

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 16th, 2006, 10:47pm

on 03/16/06 at 22:09:19, Jonny wrote:
Im going to write in "Flo" for the next presidential election ;;D


I'm declining in advance. But I'm not worried about getting more than one vote.  ;)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 17th, 2006, 5:37am
I respect the opinions and the time taken to reserach but some I just can't agree with you on.

That's what " makes horse racing as they say ".

That is why we live in a free society. We have our opinions and we don't get offed for them.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 17th, 2006, 5:44am
I'm rowing up stream most of the time these days.

Off to Indiana for the day where most of the folks where I'm going are on the right of the political spectrum.

Warsaw, Indiana  George W. country no doubt.

Middle of the corn fields.

Beautiful country.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Woobie on Mar 17th, 2006, 5:51am
All this hate and killing -

all in the name of RELIGION.

fukkin KILLS ME!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Woobie on Mar 17th, 2006, 5:56am

on 03/16/06 at 19:36:22, cardogman wrote:
I still think that the Muslims want the whole world to be Islamic and if they could they would try to make that happen.

Burt



Same with the Catholics....... they want the whole world to be Catholic... or atleast Christian.

I hate religion.

i'm not going to get started. [smiley=laugh.gif]

[smiley=bag.gif]


edited to stop myself  :-*

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 17th, 2006, 7:32am

on 03/17/06 at 05:37:46, cardogman wrote:
I respect the opinions and the time taken to reserach but some I just can't agree with you on.

That's what " makes horse racing as they say ".

That is why we live in a free society. We have our opinions and we don't get offed for them.

Burt


In some of your previous postings you very strongly indicated that we should "off" all Muslims...I hope that your latest post indicates that you have seen how wrong it was to state that, for what you had previously written goes against everything that this country stands for and the principles upon which it was founded.  If you  have changed your way of thinking, congratualtions!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by TomM on Mar 17th, 2006, 9:00am

on 03/17/06 at 05:44:14, cardogman wrote:
Off to Indiana for the day where most of the folks where I'm going are on the right of the political spectrum.
Warsaw, Indiana  George W. country no doubt.
Middle of the corn fields.
Beautiful country.Burt


I was under the impression that Iowa was corn country and Heaven.   ;;D
"Hey, is this heaven?"
"No, it's Iowa."
Field of Dreams, 1989


on 03/16/06 at 19:36:22, cardogman wrote:
I still think that the Muslims want the whole world to be Islamic and if they could they would try to make that happen.
Burt

This statement can be make for every religion out there. Is it not the purpose of each relgion to "Spread the Word"?

TomM

Title: Re: Why?
Post by rickyshot on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:46am
I too hate generalizations and very broad statements as in all Muslims want to kill us etc. I am a Jew. I do not hate Muslims or anyone else for that matter. I agree that no one has a monopoly on racism, hate crimes, brutality etc. One look at the history books and news proves this. I find it interesting that America put the Japenese in camps during WW II and now the Muslims are the villans of the hour and hate is being directed at them. Funny the Germans were not subjected to this at the same intensity during WW II Makes you go HMMMMMM But I digress..

I will admit that I do not particularly trust Muslims but understand that I am a product of popular culture and the news which is always slanted at best. Everyone justifies their cause. All I know that as a Jew I had my daughter is who racially mixed in the hospital when she was 8 with pneumonia. We shared our room with devout Muslim Arabs from Syria. The mother and father prayed to the East during the day. She spoke decent English and we would talk. At night she took off her Hijab and let me see her hair. We did not focus on our differences and history. We had the human commonality of having sick children and focused on the love for our families. I hope that as Martin Luther King stated so eloquently I pray for the day we are judged by the content of our character and not by the color of our skin, or background. I do not even judge people by what their parents did. No one can control other peoples actions. They stand alone in their character.

I do however think we should screen all immigrants and defend our soil if necessary, no matter who the "them" may be.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 17th, 2006, 12:16pm
I love all people---------respect all religions-----except INDIANS that call me selling something at dinner time---they are so ridiculous in how they pronounce their words------------------so I tell them this joke------There was a shipwreck and an Arab , an Iranian and an Indian are floating in the Ocean....Suddenly a shark appears and eats the Arab--------------moments later he re-appears and eats the Iranian----------three minutes later he pops up and swims away from the Indian---The Indian looks to Heaven and says "Thank You God"----------but the shark says-----" I ate one of your people a year ago and my not a very nice person still burns."

Title: Re: Why?
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 17th, 2006, 12:17pm
forgot about the word a**ho** ( they change it to not a very nice person.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 17th, 2006, 1:14pm

on 03/17/06 at 12:17:47, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
forgot about the word a**ho** ( they change it to not a very nice person.


ASSH0LE -  replace the Oh with a Zero.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 17th, 2006, 1:20pm
Spending your days learning how to beat the filters?

Got any more?  8)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by deltadarlin on Mar 17th, 2006, 5:07pm
Can anyone who has posted about *those* people please tell me how you can pick *those* people out of a crowd?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 17th, 2006, 6:36pm

on 03/17/06 at 17:07:49, deltadarlin wrote:
Can anyone who has posted about *those* people please tell me how you can pick *those* people out of a crowd?



Oh that is easy Delta....it is anyone who is not like you or does not think like you or believe the same as you...

Rodger [smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 17th, 2006, 6:57pm
El-Al airlines in Israel not only profiles, they go way above that.......whens the last time someone hijacked an El-Al flight?

Enough of second searching grannies at our airports, lets profile the suckers that killed 3000 people on our own turf!!

This is not brain surgery, its the PC bastards being afraid of looking bad....fuck you PC!


Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:01pm
Lots of Corn Fields in Indiana.

This was my day.

5:30 am left for Teterboro Airport in New Jersey from Long Island.

7:30 am took off on Corporate Jet arrived in Warsaw Indiana at 9:10 am

3:30 pm took off from Warsaw, Indiana  on same jet arrived Teterboro airport 4:35 pm

4:50 pm took limo to NYC to cover a late Limb Salvage Surgery with implantation of expandabe Knee Implant for 12 year old patient. Arrived at Hospital at 6:00 pm.

8:10 pm left Hospital and took cab to Penn Station for 8:34 train to Long Island.

Arrived my town 9:20 pm took cab with two drunken fucking kids from the St. Patricks Day Parade in NYC. One of those fucking pieces of shit vomited all over the fucking cab and on me one block from my house.

Nice Day Huh.

Yes I was a little aggressive about the Mooslums but I still think they want to take over the world and no I don't think the Catholics want to do the same.

Burt


Title: Re: Why?
Post by Linda_Howell on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:10pm


   
Quote:
and no I don't think the Catholics want to do the same.



FINALLY !!!!!!    Something I can agree with Burt on.    ;;D

Only been waiting 2 months now.   >:(

Linda

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:26pm

on 03/17/06 at 12:16:15, zwibbs/Scott wrote:
I love all people---------respect all religions-----except INDIANS that call me selling something at dinner time---they are so ridiculous in how they pronounce their words------------------


Why blame the Native Americans - the guilty parties are Chase Bank and Verizon!  You think Chandrasakir wants to stay up till 3 am to call crabby A55E5 like you and me?   When wages are too high in India, the multinational corporations will move the call center somewhere else; or maybe a new and intelligent computerized voice mail will be ready by then.... sure, it doesn't really understand you, but then who does??  ;)  

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:36pm

Quote:
4:50 pm took limo to NYC to cover a late Limb Salvage Surgery with implantation of expandabe Knee Implant for 12 year old patient


And you think you had a bad day?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by BlueMeanie on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:56pm

on 03/17/06 at 18:57:11, Jonny wrote:
Enough of second searching grannies at our airports, lets profile the suckers that killed 3000 people on our own turf!! This is not brain surgery, its the PC bastards being afraid of looking bad....fuck you PC!


Don't you know profiling will get you sued. If you look like someone who MAY and is MOST likely to be doing something wrong, you cannot be checked. (Weather it's at an airport checking foreigners, or on the inner city steets). It's the new American way. Yes, those people.... the ones who just may be doing something bad.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 17th, 2006, 10:58pm
Conside this.

The boy had a highly malignant Osteogenic Sarcoma of his femur.

We replaced half of his femur with an implant that can be expanded as he grows with the turn of a screw driver through a 1/4 inch incision.

He did not have his leg amputated. It was saved.

He has a 98% chance for cure.

Today may have been the luckiest day of his life.

And a very fulfilling day for me.

20 years ago he would have lost his leg and probably lost his life.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Mar 17th, 2006, 11:13pm

on 03/17/06 at 22:58:37, cardogman wrote:
We replaced half of his femur with an implant that can be expanded as he grows with the turn of a screw driver through a 1/4 inch incision.


Burt


Damn, dude, sounds pretty amazing!!
Modern science is pretty amazing.

10 years ago would this person have to keep going in to get larger things implanted as he grew?   Will this piece last the rest of his life?

Party on
B$


Title: Re: Why?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Mar 17th, 2006, 11:19pm

on 03/17/06 at 22:56:55, BlueMeanie wrote:
Don't you know profiling will get you sued. If you look like someone who MAY and is MOST likely to be doing something wrong, you cannot be checked. (Weather it's at an airport checking foreigners, or on the inner city steets). It's the new American way. Yes, those people.... the ones who just may be doing something bad.


Thats a good point.  There used to be a day when the police would search someone BECAUSE they looked suspicious.
Nowadays its like you cant be searched IF you look suspicious.

Jesus, we are frisking granny at the airort and the spokesperson for the taliban is going to college in New England.
This is what the administration calls 'doin a heck of a job'
B$


Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 17th, 2006, 11:42pm
We make many of these kinds of Implants for patients with cancer.

Yeah it's pretty amazing.

We spend billions for health care. Peoples lives are being saved every day because of technology.

And we wake up one morning to find out thousands of innocent people are killed because of a bunch of fucking pieces of shit.

When are we going to stop being a bunch of suckers and close our borders and protect our country.

When are we going to stop being so complacent.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 12:49am

on 03/17/06 at 07:32:36, CHTom wrote:
In some of your previous postings you very strongly indicated that we should "off" all Muslims...I hope that your latest post indicates that you have seen how wrong it was to state that, for what you had previously written goes against everything that this country stands for and the principles upon which it was founded.  If you  have changed your way of thinking, congratualtions!


Oh well, I was wrong.  Burt, you are still a racist wimp and would probably soil your pants if you found yourself in a room with a couple of Muslims.  When you are wrong, you are wrong and might as well admit it-I was wrong-cardogman, you probably still chase after cars and try to pee on them.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 18th, 2006, 2:07am

on 03/18/06 at 00:49:07, CHTom wrote:
Oh well, I was wrong.  Burt, you are still a racist wimp and would probably soil your pants if you found yourself in a room with a couple of Muslims.  When you are wrong, you are wrong and might as well admit it-I was wrong-cardogman, you probably still chase after cars and try to pee on them.


Gee Tom, you sure like to paint people now dont you?.....Lookie here>>> when you were posting as "Hdildo" you didnt have the balls to make your point at the OUCH-UK site.


on 07/12/05 at 22:50:34, hdido wrote:
Everyone in OUCH-UK is afraid of Mike and no one will criticize anything that he writes...let's let them know that we will give him what he deserves for his insults to our troops.  OUCH-UK needs someone like you...I try, but you are so much better.  I hope that you post something on their site.  I'm a vet and will not accept some non-vet bad mouthing our forces, ever.


This is your "Oh jonny, please help me bash people" PM.....What a fucking joke you are, whatever the fuck your name is this week!!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 3:10am
Oh Jonny, you are so CUTE when you are angry-especially when you are wearing your dress and have your long  hair done up! ::)
(You and cardoggieboy got something going on now?  You've been REALLY protective of him lately [smiley=laugh.gif])

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 18th, 2006, 3:29am

on 03/18/06 at 03:10:11, CHTom wrote:
Oh Jonny, you are so CUTE when you are angry-especially when you are wearing your dress and have your long  hair done up! ::)
(You and cardoggieboy got something going on now?  You've been REALLY protective of him lately [smiley=laugh.gif])


Man, I look good no matter what im wearing. you on the other hand look like a whimp PM'ing people to help you on another message board, a big yellow streak down the back of the big bad veteran......LMMFAO ;;D

Dont tell me, you was a cook while serving your country?....a real man would not beg for help to attack people on a website......LMAO!

Keep that yellow streak going brother, it suits you 8)

Edit to add: ;;D

yellow streak

noun
Ignoble lack of courage: chickenheartedness, cowardice, cowardliness, cravenness, dastardliness, faint-heartedness, funk, pusillanimity, unmanliness. Slang gutlessness, yellowness.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 7:14am
What exactly was it that you did when you were in the Armed Forces [smiley=huh.gif]?  I know that we didn't have the draft when you were old enough to enlist (didn't have it when I went in either), but I'm sure someone as patriotic as you MUST have volunteered.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 18th, 2006, 7:22am
Tommy,

" I still chase after cars and pee on them "

Is that all you got man. Geez I could have done better then that.

I think Tommy that all people are a little racist at times. It's hard not to be in this society. I believe what I am saying and that is most or the majority of Muslims want the world to pray to Allah. I think that Muslims as a whole do not speak out against terrorisnm as they should. I think anyone of them who doesn't should pay the price especially if they are living here. No I don't think I am afraid of any Muslims I work with some from time to time.

Now don't go copying my previous post to prove your  point because I have already modified my original comments and lightened up a little.

Now as it relates to Jonny. I told him how I felt anumber of days ago. I think he has given me the benefit of the doubt and I guess we are moving forward not back.
 
Is there something wrong with that? Please call this number to file a complaint if you don't like it.


                               1-800- FUCK YOU


AH  when no one answers hang up and try again you may have dialed wrong.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 18th, 2006, 7:58am

on 03/17/06 at 22:26:08, floridian wrote:
Why blame the Native Americans - the guilty parties are Chase Bank and Verizon!  You think Chandrasakir wants to stay up till 3 am to call crabby A55E5 like you and me?   When wages are too high in India, the multinational corporations will move the call center somewhere else; or maybe a new and intelligent computerized voice mail will be ready by then.... sure, it doesn't really understand you, but then who does??  ;)  

----------------------------------------------------------------------------------You're right ---Chase has these guys calling me every saturday---with a new offer !!!----But I'm too easy going ---a Mentally challenged group calls me every year selling light bulbs----needless to say --I have a whole closet full of light bulbs !!!!!! No Joke

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2006, 8:02am

on 03/18/06 at 07:14:33, CHTom wrote:
What exactly was it that you did when you were in the Armed Forces [smiley=huh.gif]?  I know that we didn't have the draft when you were old enough to enlist (didn't have it when I went in either), but I'm sure someone as patriotic as you MUST have volunteered.


Except that, you scum sucking pondlife you forgot that you  posted on OUCH UK that

a) you were never a member of the Armed Forces and you slammed them plenty yourself and

b) you were a vet of both the Gulf and Vietnam wars. I guess that means you have the Playstation games??

You just keep going, that hole you're digging is nearly deep enough for us to fill in over your head.

Oh and what a lovely thought that is to make me smile this weekend!  ;;D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:12am

on 03/18/06 at 08:02:45, LeLimey wrote:
Except that, you scum sucking pondlife you forgot that you  posted on OUCH UK that
b) you were a vet of both the Gulf and Vietnam wars. I guess that means you have the Playstation games??

Helen you could have served in both but would have been close to retirement and the draft would have been around for that person. Also the term scum sucking pond life has been replaced with the new and improved and politically correct term BUTT BREATHING TURTLE.  Please make a note of that.
Rodger [smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:32am

Quote:
you were a vet of both the Gulf and Vietnam wars. I guess that means you have the Playstation games??


No Playstation for him. He just changes the decals on his Battleship game.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 10:47am

on 03/18/06 at 08:02:45, LeLimey wrote:
Except that, you scum sucking pondlife you forgot that you  posted on OUCH UK that

a) you were never a member of the Armed Forces and you slammed them plenty yourself and

b) you were a vet of both the Gulf and Vietnam wars. I guess that means you have the Playstation games??

You just keep going, that hole you're digging is nearly deep enough for us to fill in over your head.

Oh and what a lovely thought that is to make me smile this weekend!  ;;D


I think that you have been sucking more than oxygen, Helen.  Although I have never posted on OUCH-UK, do search your files and let us know which person claimed to have served in both wars-and there are some, but I am not one of them and if someone did, then we should be proud of that person-let me know if that person is one of the numerous "secret identities" that you claim that I have (ever thought of seeking psychiaric tx?  It might do you some good).  I am, however, glad to have made you smile this weekend, though it would take a lot of something to fill the hole in your head or whatever other hole you are referring too, particularly your gob.  Forgive me, I am starting to write like you-I do hope that you don't speak the language that you write on the site around your poor son.  Put a bar of soap in your mouth the next time that you take a shower.  By the way, since we all know that consumption of alcholoic beverages is not good for those of us suffering from CH, maybe you should cut back on your consumption as, from reading your posts, you appear to drink quite a bit-just a bit of medical advice.  Cheers!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 18th, 2006, 10:58am
Hey Tommy,

Are you speaking to a lady that way. I don't care what she said to you. Son you better watch your mouth around the ladies. Is that how you usually speak.

Now listen here boy. I never believed that there was such a thing as a troll and you know I have been called that cousin.

But I'm starting to think you are one by the tone of your filthy mouth.

No go back in your house or wherever you live and drink a container of dishwashing liquid.

Puke it on up and then lap it up off the toilet seat like the piece of manure you are and then get back under the bridge where you belong.  >:(

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 18th, 2006, 11:43am

on 03/18/06 at 10:47:21, CHTom wrote:
I think that you have been sucking more than oxygen, Helen.  Although I have never posted on OUCH-UK, do search your files and let us know which person claimed to have served in both wars-and there are some, but I am not one of them and if someone did, then we should be proud of that person-let me know if that person is one of the numerous "secret identities" that you claim that I have (ever thought of seeking psychiaric tx?  It might do you some good).  I am, however, glad to have made you smile this weekend, though it would take a lot of something to fill the hole in your head or whatever other hole you are referring too, particularly your gob.  Forgive me, I am starting to write like you-I do hope that you don't speak the language that you write on the site around your poor son.  Put a bar of soap in your mouth the next time that you take a shower.  By the way, since we all know that consumption of alcholoic beverages is not good for those of us suffering from CH, maybe you should cut back on your consumption as, from reading your posts, you appear to drink quite a bit-just a bit of medical advice.  Cheers!


CHTom, I don't know you and don't know if I want to...But you really should edit these comments.

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by maffumatt on Mar 18th, 2006, 11:49am
With sweet words like that I believe he has a thing for you Helen..................

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 18th, 2006, 12:20pm

on 03/18/06 at 10:47:21, CHTom wrote:
I think that you have been sucking more than oxygen, Helen.


Not only does he ask me to help him bash people on a message board, he also picks on women. What a coward.

yellow streak  

noun
Ignoble lack of courage: chickenheartedness, cowardice, cowardliness, cravenness, dastardliness, faint-heartedness, funk, pusillanimity, unmanliness. Slang gutlessness, yellowness.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by maffumatt on Mar 18th, 2006, 12:23pm
Didn't he fake his death?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Melissa on Mar 18th, 2006, 12:53pm

on 03/18/06 at 12:23:43, maffumatt wrote:
Didn't he fake his death?

If he didn't before, I wish he would now.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by jimmers on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:09pm
Maybe at the convention he can show us how he can break a popsicle stick with a karate chop! ;;D

Jimmers

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:11pm
Whats that little shit sticks name on South Park?

The one that says HI-DE-HO.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Melissa on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:18pm
That reminds me, Lily received her Brown belt last night. ;;D

Up next, Black Belt candidate!!! :D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:19pm

on 03/18/06 at 13:11:36, chewy wrote:
Whats that little shit sticks name on South Park?

The one that says HI-DE-HO.


Is it CHTom saying hi to his wife? ;;D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:20pm

on 03/18/06 at 13:11:36, chewy wrote:
Whats that little shit sticks name on South Park?

The one that says HI-DE-HO.


Mr. Hankey!!

http://images.southparkstudios.com/media/images/315/315_hankey_flush.gif

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:21pm
[quote author=Jonny link=board=general;num=1142463964;start=75#76 date=03/18/06 at 12:20:57]

Not only does he ask me to help him bash people on a message board, he also picks on women. What a coward.

Joanie, I mean Jonny, I would never pick on you (I guess that you were including yourself when you wrote about my picking on women)!  Strange how you avoid answering questions about your military service, you being the one calling for military action against Mexicans, Arabs, etc.  If a woman writes something "nasty" to me, I have the right to respond in kind, so I won't edit my post to Helen-actually, it was quite toned down compared to some of the stuff that she has posted.  Equal rights guys, equal rights-or do you wack the old lady if she opens her mouth to you and you don't like what she says?  Cardogboy, heel or no Purina for dinner tonight! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:26pm

on 03/18/06 at 13:21:29, CHTom wrote:
Not only does he ask me to help him bash people on a message board, he also picks on women. What a coward.

Joanie, I mean Jonny, I would never pick on you (I guess that you were including yourself when you wrote about my picking on women)!  Strange how you avoid answering questions about your military service, you being the one calling for military action against Mexicans, Arabs, etc.  If a woman writes something "nasty" to me, I have the right to respond in kind, so I won't edit my post to Helen-actually, it was quite toned down compared to some of the stuff that she has posted.  Equal rights guys, equal rights-or do you wack the old lady if she opens her mouth to you and you don't like what she says?  Cardogboy, heel or no Purina for dinner tonight! [smiley=laugh.gif]


CHTom that was me who asked you to tone down the comments on Helen. She is a close friend and I don't appreciate it.

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:33pm
Rodger, she started it-if she apologizes and stops then I'll stop as well.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by medic1852 on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:46pm

on 03/18/06 at 13:33:20, CHTom wrote:
Rodger, she started it-if she apologizes and stops then I'll stop as well.


At first I was not going to reply. But the more I thought about it the more your statement reminded me of my five year old. But at least he can sense when it is time to say enough is enough and be a bigger person and go ahead and apologize. So I am just going to let it go at that and forget your comments.

Rodger

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:49pm
Who is Helen? [smiley=huh.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jimi on Mar 18th, 2006, 1:51pm
I think that CHTom is just mis-understood. Why, face to face I bet you are a really nice guy. I hope that you are coming to Convention so that I may meet you in person and we can get to know each other a little better.  :)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 18th, 2006, 2:28pm

on 03/18/06 at 13:51:07, Jimi wrote:
I think that CHTom is just mis-understood. Why, face to face I bet you are a really nice guy. I hope that you are coming to Convention so that I may meet you in person and we can get to know each other a little better.  :)


What a joy that would be!! ;)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2006, 4:34pm

on 03/18/06 at 10:47:21, CHTom wrote:
I think that you have been sucking more than oxygen, Helen.  Although I have never posted on OUCH-UK, do search your files and let us know which person claimed to have served in both wars-and there are some, but I am not one of them and if someone did, then we should be proud of that person-let me know if that person is one of the numerous "secret identities" that you claim that I have (ever thought of seeking psychiaric tx?  It might do you some good).  I am, however, glad to have made you smile this weekend, though it would take a lot of something to fill the hole in your head or whatever other hole you are referring too, particularly your gob.  Forgive me, I am starting to write like you-I do hope that you don't speak the language that you write on the site around your poor son.  Put a bar of soap in your mouth the next time that you take a shower.  By the way, since we all know that consumption of alcholoic beverages is not good for those of us suffering from CH, maybe you should cut back on your consumption as, from reading your posts, you appear to drink quite a bit-just a bit of medical advice.  Cheers!


Hmmm.... sounds familiar - I wonder why? Lets have a think shall we?


on 07/28/05 at 09:39:35, hdido wrote:
"It was a dark and stormy night and I was somehow unmoved by the attempts at wit directed against me...all the perfume in Asia will not wash out the scent of LeLimey's tobacco stained hands and alcoholic breath"....by the way, your Limeyness, how many tents did it take to sew that thing you wore at the convention?  Remember, we must save our resources for the coming war on poorly written attempts at sarcasm.  To end this on a positive note, your arms are MADE for tatoos.  Ta ta for now, better safe than sorry, always wear clean underwear and take your Wellies and brolly with you in case it rains.


I seem to have that le deja moo feeling.. I could SWEAR I've heard this bull shit more than once!   ::)

Oh and just in case anyone needs reminding of dicksplat's finest moment


on 07/28/05 at 20:00:33, LeLimey wrote:
Don't forget everyone.. he picked on Mia first on page 15 of the no longer chronic thread on the meds and therapies board. Of course that was in ONE of his previous incarnations as PCMCCK or as Margi so rightly called him PRICK!!
This lowlife has had more comebacks thank a MacDonalds burger and is equally as unappetising and hard to digest. No doubt he will either delete himself again or merely fade away and come back as yet another handle.
Rest assured though. There are alot of us watching him. We will NOT let him play these little games without alerting you all and if you think he is a jerk here please read page 15 of the link. If that doesn't show you what manner of a specimen (This is NO "man" ) you are dealing with nothing will.

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=meds;action=display;num=1085591042



John, you are a waste of skin. Like I've said before you can't offend me, it takes a MAN to put me down and you don't meet the criteria.

Helen or "LeLimey" - first and only handle used at ch.com. Another thing you can't aspire too eh?!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 4:35pm

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Rodger, she started it


ROFLMMFAO! Real he man aren't ya?


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I hope that you are coming to Convention


If he did I might even go. Just to watch LeLimey kick his puny little ass!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2006, 4:37pm
Hey chewy be fair.. I'm 5ft one and a half inches of pure mean and don't you forget it! And by He Man do you mean John is badly drawn or that he is a plastic figure in the style of a man but not quite making the grade?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 18th, 2006, 4:41pm
No this is wrong. It doesn't matter what a woman says to you especially on a web site you have no right to speak to her that way. Especially those comments about holes you filthy and probable anus wrangler.

No matter what I have said in the past has anyone ever seen any writing from me that was sexually dergrading to a woman. That's a NO.



Anyway you piece of crap tone your messages down to the ladies.

I invite you to say anything to me though I am in the mood to get in to a battle with the likes of you. Being nice hurts after a while ::)

Burt


Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:07pm

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Burt, you are still a racist wimp



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Anyway you piece of crap


TROLL FIGHT!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:19pm
The draw bridge is up chew man and the trolls are coming.

hahahahahahaha ::)

Lelimey is 5'1" thats a woman right. I hope so if it's a man then there is a homonal issue there.

You folks should be glad that we have somone like Jonny patroling to keep out the likes of this CHTOM whatever the hell he is.

The only time I talk dirty to a woman is on one of those 990 numbers and I don't even know if they are actually women. This guy CHTOM doid yousee what he said. That was disgusting.

He's probably a MOOSLUM

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:33pm

on 03/18/06 at 17:19:39, cardogman wrote:
Lelimey is 5'1" thats a woman right.


Two things Burt.. one) yes I'm a woman and two) .. I SAID five foot one and a half DAMNIT!!!  ::)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:36pm
Half of what and whats the other half ?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:45pm
half an inch chew toy and yes it does bloody matter!
If I said you had to lose half an inch you'd wince wouldn't you?!
And the other half..well.. its obvious isn't it? Thats the space before my halo starts shining  ;;D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 18th, 2006, 5:47pm
Le

My daughter is 4"10 inches tall with the same or similar mouth as me. Petitte woman don't take shit. I have noticed that.

burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by E-Double on Mar 18th, 2006, 6:20pm

on 03/18/06 at 17:47:38, cardogman wrote:
Le

My daughter is 4"10 inches tall with the same or similar mouth as me. Petitte woman don't take shit. I have noticed that.

burt


Just like my bride!

She's tough as nails.
I've heard stories of her breaking a marine's nose with a beer mug!
Gotta love her!

Anywho.......What was the Question?? Why??

Who's on first?

E

Title: Re: Why?
Post by chewy on Mar 18th, 2006, 6:21pm

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Petitte woman don't take shit.


Napoleanette complex

Hey! If I lost a half an inch maybe my knees wouldn't get so bruised.  8)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Melissa on Mar 18th, 2006, 9:44pm
ROTFLMAO!!!


TYTYTY so much for the entertainment tonight, as I just got done with a very exhausting and emotional parenting growth spurt!

Damn, why does love have to hurt so much??

Title: Re: Why?
Post by CHTom on Mar 19th, 2006, 12:59am

on 03/18/06 at 17:19:39, cardogman wrote:
The draw bridge is up chew man and the trolls are coming.

hahahahahahaha ::)

The only time I talk dirty to a woman is on one of those 990 numbers and I don't even know if they are actually women. This guy CHTOM doid yousee what he said. That was disgusting.

He's probably a MOOSLUM

Burt


So that's how you get your rocks off-calling 990 numbers and talking "dirty" to, maybe, women.  Burt, learn to keep your own counsel, because each time that you don't you reveal how really mentally ill you are.  Why do you have to call a porno line when you have a wife?  Get some help, you are a sick puppy.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Mar 19th, 2006, 2:49am
Anywho.......What was the Question?? Why??

Who's on first?

E ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------That's Right !!!

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 19th, 2006, 2:53am

on 03/19/06 at 00:59:18, CHTom wrote:
So that's how you get your rocks off-calling 990 numbers and talking "dirty" to, maybe, women.  Burt, learn to keep your own counsel, because each time that you don't you reveal how really mentally ill you are.  Why do you have to call a porno line when you have a wife?  Get some help, you are a sick puppy.


Are you coming to the convention, whatever your name is?....or is that ballbag only big behind the keyboard?

Face to face you have rasins in your pants, if that!!

Keep in mind that I will pay for your flight  ;)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 19th, 2006, 5:12am
Hey Jonny.. don't you know chickens can't fly?! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Jonny on Mar 19th, 2006, 5:38am

on 03/19/06 at 05:12:14, LeLimey wrote:
Hey Jonny.. don't you know chickens can't fly?! [smiley=laugh.gif]


I am aware of that my dear, but with one boot in the ass this one will fly for miles...prehaps even further  ;)

Title: Re: Why?
Post by purpleydog on Mar 19th, 2006, 6:01am

on 03/18/06 at 17:45:00, LeLimey wrote:
yes it does bloody matter!
If I said you had to lose half an inch you'd wince wouldn't you?!




[smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by cardogman on Mar 19th, 2006, 6:41am
Tommy,

I'm splitting the air fare with Jonny to meet you.

If I reallly did call sex talk lines bro who do think would be on the other end.

At my age son the only line I'll be calling is 911.

But good comeback for a troll.

Geez I never thought I would call someone that.

Burt

Title: Re: Why?
Post by BobG on Mar 19th, 2006, 1:07pm
Hate to interrupt a good hijacking but back to the original message.......

I say toss Sayed Rahmatullah Hashemi and Michael Chertoff in Joe Arpaio’s jail.

Do turbans come in pink?

Edit to rethink this.
Some of the most dangerous and violent prison gangs are Muslim. Maybe Hashemi shouldn’t go there.

How about, instead of Yale, send him to Notre Dame?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by floridian on Mar 19th, 2006, 2:18pm

on 03/19/06 at 13:07:31, BobG wrote:
Edit to rethink this.
Some of the most dangerous and violent prison gangs are Muslim. Maybe Hashemi shouldn’t go there.


Bob, somebody needs to contact the membership committee.  The idea of violent gangs in our country clubs does not sit well with me.

Title: Re: Why?
Post by _Lee_ on Mar 19th, 2006, 8:48pm

on 03/16/06 at 09:04:18, floridian wrote:
I put Billy O in the same category as our president, who said:
"See, in my line of work, you got to keep repeating things over and over and over again for the truth to sink in...to kind of catapult the propaganda."

Catapulting the propaganda.  But in a 'fair and balanced' way.  Just like the law that ignores mercury emissions by power plants is the 'clear skies act' and the program to monitor what you type on the internet is the total information awareness 'catch terrorists and evildoers before they can kill us all' program.  

[smiley=smug.gif] [smiley=snore.gif] [smiley=worried.gif] [smiley=argue.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Ghost on Mar 20th, 2006, 10:35am
I go away for the weekend and Trolls attack! >:(

I understand a certian Troll who is still missing his pair, seems to think to find them he has to attack the Wimminz here! He also thinks he needs to go after others and it is a good idea? Unfortunatly I can't be at convention this year, but would really like to see pics if Troll does show up. I am sure he will be greeted with due respect! ::)

I really would like to understant the thinking involved with the desire, or need to attack others here. Is it possable an attempt to conceal the fact he could be lacking in other areas? Maybe the missing affection he felt he was supposed to have as a child? Is it also possable he has issues with his mother that are needing to be resolved? Was he sexually abused by a large biker type? I personally think he grew up as a bully type and like most bullies runs away crying when confronted. I would even go as far as to guess as a child lost a fight and his dad saw it and kicked his butt for loosing. If said Troll is married I would almost bet he is both mentally and physically abusive twards his spouse. I would more than likely bet he either was married and devorced due to abuse, or never married because women cant trust him. I would even bet he drives a red sports car as a symbol of power he wished he had. He may even live near a larger than normal population of women to show his family he must be dating alot because all the women living around him.

These are of course just summations but I would almost bet pretty close to accurate. However I could be wrong and the Troll could be just a loudmouth coward sitting befind a keyboard knowing noone can track him down.


We will see

Mike

Title: Re: Why?
Post by LeLimey on Mar 20th, 2006, 11:08am

on 03/20/06 at 10:35:44, Ghost wrote:
...I would more than likely bet he either was married and devorced ...


He WAS married.. to an English woman actually! I guess that's why he holds me in such high regard don'chathink?!  ;) She was even from about 15 miles from where I live now..


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....he must be dating alot because all the women living around him.


Bloody hell Goatie.. how many women with little or no taste do you think there are?! I could consume all the beer in Eurpoe and it still wouldn't be enough to make him look good!  [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by imnotbub on Mar 20th, 2006, 11:25am

on 03/20/06 at 10:35:44, Ghost wrote:
bet he drives a red sports car


Hey, I like red sports cars. Does that make me a bad guy? [smiley=nono.gif]

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Ghost on Mar 20th, 2006, 11:28am
What I said was


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He may even live near a larger than normal population of women to show his family he must be dating alot because all the women living around him.


With him being impotent he can brag to family and new friends.

Just for appearances I would guess. [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

She got smart didnt she? [smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=laugh.gif]

So was he abusive?
curious how close I got?

Title: Re: Why?
Post by Ghost on Mar 20th, 2006, 11:32am

on 03/20/06 at 11:25:13, imnotbub wrote:
Hey, I like red sports cars. Does that make me a bad guy? [smiley=nono.gif]

Nope some buy them because they like them others Trolls buy them to distract from there inadaquicies(sp)

You are all good! ;;D ;;D 8)

Mike ;;D

Title: Re: Why?
Post by dennisoc on Apr 21st, 2006, 2:20am
I'm glad jonny is in charge



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