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Title: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me? Post by nani on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:13pm My head's been acting strange. Not the ususal "strange" but headache strange, LOL. I need those of you who have migraines to describe them for me. :-/ Thanks. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Charlotte on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:19pm OK. I get several kinds of migraine, most with nausea. The initial feeling is the same as onset of ch. Sometimes I feel like a balloon is being blown up behind my right eyebrow. The nausea, often a feeling liike a wasp stinging my scalp, aches and pains like in the feet and legs and hands that you would not expect, usually a light - day or night- and visual disturbance in the upper right quadrant of my vision in both eyes like zigzaggy or badly wavy. The pain is not as sharp as ch. Some of mine last 3 hours, 8 hours, 12 hours, and 3-5 days. I have had them simultaneously with ch. So, light or dark visual disturbances; wasp stinging your scalp, aches in extremities, nausea - all go with the migraine, but of course not for all. Good luck, Nani. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by nani on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:21pm Thanks, Charlotte. Does it hurt on the whole side of your head? Is it a throbbing hurt, that's worse when you move your head? |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by ABarham on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:25pm Nani - mine usually make me feel like my head is going to explode. I have literally held on to the top of my head just to make sure it didn't go anywhere. I also cannot tolerate light, noise, or movement. If it is brought on by tension, my neck and shoulders will feel like they have been filled with rocks. Takes forever to work out the knots. God love ya, you don't need this too. Also, Charlotte, I know about them going on for days. Not my experience, but my daughter was on homebound her entire Senior year of High School because of them. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Charlotte on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:26pm If it is migraine, you will be able to lay down. See if you can lay down, turn off the lights, and put a cold washrag over your eyes for a few minutes. Did you check to see if you have a fever? |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by nani on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:32pm Fever? No I haven't checked. Here's what's been happening: First, a little pressure behind my CH eye. Then waves of nausea. I'm literally gagging on nothing. UGH. Then a wave of throbbing, (kinda like head exploding) pressure. From the cluster "spot" on my neck all the way through that side of my head and out my eye. I'm not needing the dark, or to lay down (though I think I could), and moving my head just increases the pain and pressure. And they are lasting for hours. They aren't localized like what a heavy CH shadow would be for me. It's that whole side of my head. And yes, my neck and shoulders are heavy and sore, too. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by nani on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:34pm Oh, I should add that oxygen only helps while I'm huffing it. And SPUTS aren't helping at all. (they do help migrainers that I know). :-/ |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Jonny on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:39pm ::) |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by E-Double on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:43pm Nani my dear, You know that I am blessed with a shit load of headaches ;;D It sounds part migraine and part tension. Tension headaches do not sound bad but they can be pretty crippling at times. If you feel like head is going to explode and the back of your neck hurts like hell it may be a tension/migraine combo. They are certainly different types of pain than CH. The only thing I can say about CH that is positive in comparison is that it will stop. The others can persist for hours and days. I hope ya never get a combo of 2, 3 or more HA types at once. I've had the Cluster/Migraine/Ice-pick/Tension/variant HA combo that really fucks ya up......EEK! Hugs and try a really frozen ice wrap around the skull and neck. Eric |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by sandie99 on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:44pm nani, I do wish that whatever it is, it'll leave you alone soon! [smiley=hug.gif] Wishing you PF time, Sanna |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by medic1852 on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:48pm on 03/09/06 at 15:32:44, nani wrote:
Just a thought...if you have a fever...maybe meningitis? |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Melissa on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:51pm on 03/09/06 at 15:43:04, E-Double wrote:
I can vouch for this!!! ;;D When I get tension HA's, I have the movement prob, a knot between my lower neck and shoulder blade, plus one at the base of my head (usually left side), and the nausea along with it. Although, the pain area is usually a band from one ear, over the top of the head, to the other ear. (not affecting the ears, just the skull). HA's SUCK!!!! :P :P :P :P :P |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by tanner on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:56pm Whoa, Medic just added a scary thought! can you touch your chin to your chest? Seriously I Have had meningitis 4 times and it is not to fool around with. ...............tim |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by medic1852 on Mar 9th, 2006, 3:59pm Does this fit?? The classical symptoms of meningitis are headache, neck stiffness and photophobia (the trio are called "meningism"). Fever and chills are often present, along with myalgia. An altered state of consciousness or other neurological deficits may be present depending on the severity of the disease. In meningococcal meningitis or septicaemia, a petechial rash may appear. A lumbar puncture to obtain cerebrospinal fluid (CSF) is usually indicated to determine the cause and direct appropriate treatment. Or this?? Signs and Symptoms The symptoms of meningitis vary and depend both on the age of the child and on which bacterium or virus is causing the infection. The symptoms of viral meningitis are usually milder than those of bacterial meningitis. However, symptoms of bacterial and viral cases can be similar, particularly in the early stages of the disease. This makes prompt, accurate identification of the infectious organism crucial to effective treatment and the patient's recovery. The first symptoms of meningitis may surface several days after a child has had a cold and runny nose, diarrhea and vomiting, or other signs of a bacterial or viral infection. Some of the more common symptoms of meningitis include fever, lethargy (decreased consciousness), or irritability. Older children may complain of a headache, photophobia (eye sensitivity to light), and a stiff neck, which is often noted by the doctor during a physical exam. Meningitis also can lead to skin rashes, although rashes caused by bacterial meningitis look different from those caused by viral meningitis. Seizures occasionally accompany meningitis as well. Newborns and infants with meningitis may lack the classical signs described above and simply be extremely irritable or lethargic. Normally, infants who are not feeling well will be comforted when their mothers pick them up. However, a baby who has meningitis may display something called paradoxical irritability - when picking up and rocking a child makes the child more distressed. This can be a sign of irritated meninges. Other symptoms of meningitis in infants can include: jaundice (a yellowish tint to the skin), a stiffness of the body and neck (neck rigidity), a mild fever, a lower-than-normal temperature, poor feeding, a weak suck, and a high-pitched cry. Parents may also notice bulging fontanelles on their baby's head. (Fontanelles are the soft spot at the top/front of the baby's skull, where the bones of the skull join and are still open at that age.) Rodger |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by medic1852 on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:00pm on 03/09/06 at 15:56:13, tanner wrote:
Dont want to alarm her but hey when it is your head and the neckpain when she moves it is a thought...Hope I didnt scare you nani Rodger |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Charlotte on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:02pm Nani, I'm not ignoring you. I'm just going back to work. Hope you get some relief. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Lizzie2 on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:05pm Meningitis usually gives a bilateral headache, but still it's good to make sure you don't have a fever, etc... Sounds to me like tension triggering a migraine, but as you know, we're not docs so we can't say for sure... :) Migraine for me...hmmm...sits in my right eye most of the time, which is my cluster eye. Almost anything triggers it to get worse - light, loud sound, being too tired, etc. I don't always feel nausea with migraine, but sometimes I do. On the worst days, picking my head up off the pillow makes me feel like I'm going to stroke out and die. And when it's like that, I almost wish I would! Throbbing is hallmark, and most migraines are unilateral. For me, when its bad, every step I take feels like I'm setting off an explosion in my head. Triptans work for migraine, but for those longer lasting, harder to kill migraine types, taking the longer acting triptans like frova or amerge seems to do well for most peoople. Lots more I could say, but it would be book-length. So instead - gentle hugs and I hope you feel better :) Carrie :) |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by nani on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:05pm Not meningitis. I haven't got any fever. Tension migraine sounds like it fits. (dammit) I guess it's time to crack open that HA diary again. :-/ Thanks everybody. :-* Off to lie down, in the dark, with my icepacks. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Melissa on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:08pm on 03/09/06 at 16:05:39, nani wrote:
Yup. That's how I read it. :-/ Then I was gonna ask you what on earth do you need those for??? |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Lizzie2 on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:08pm If you get them more than twice a month, stay away from excedrin migraine. I'm so serious about this. May seem like it helps but if you want to see a bad problem get much much worse....well, that's what that stuff does! Hope you feel better soon :) Carrie :) |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by cootie on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:33pm Gee I am the wierdo with all this ::) ......my 'new' doc said there not migraines if trex doesn't work......NO it doesn't for me. So he says mine are tension related but very severe.......anyone else have tension ha's so bad muscle fibers explode like me......now that is TIGHT !!!! My neck burns too usually. I now have NO MED for them or that the doc wants me to take for them (well I have sum stashed cuz he has changed EVERYTHING so I stopped what I was doin 'that worked'). I have the pain patch on......how the hell long do they take to work anyhow ? But I start to feel shit comein on when I turn my neck a certain way alot too.....esp if we are out and I tense up more.....then I get two golf ball lumps base of my neck......neck muscles are so tight they show it and drawing in pain feeling in shoulders and down my back. I call it my BURNING CROSS. Then it moves up and down kinda spreadin out a bit........I get blood red eyes and red face......even one ear turns bright red. I found out punchin myself in the head didn't work on several occations. With Brad's shop worries rite now tension has been there every day.....feels like all the muscles are TIGHT at nite. No sleep when like that and lots of spasm's and vibrateing legs. I guess the muscle tightness is nerve damage....could you have some sort of old injuries comein back to haunt ya ? OK.....I think I am wearing out the migraine talk......can't beleive no one has WENT OFF yet about it. Sorry and thanks for listen and shoppin at Walmart Pam 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8) EDIT: to add HOPE you feel better in the head dept...... |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Opus on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:33pm Nani, My Migraines cover one whole side of my head which is the cluster side, it changed when CH changed. The pain is nauseating, it throbs with my heart beat and at it's worse goes from 5 to 8 with every beat. I have no aura or any vision problems while attacked. Any sound, light or movement briefly jumps the pain to a 9, it feels like I was hit with a hammer. Driving with a migraine is pure hell, but manageable unlike a CH. Mine usually last 6 hours, well that is as long as I can stand it. Treatment is 4 ibuprofen, and 4 Tylenol, and to lay down in a quiet, dark room with my head flat. I can fall asleep with a migraine, but if i do laying down I will wake with a cluster. My migraines have gone away for now by staying away from MSG and taking Verapamil for CH. I won't even talk about the dreaded Cluster/Migraine which I used to get twice a year. Opus/Paul |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Dragnlance on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:34pm I get muscle tension HA every time the CH kicks in. Sucks big time. Your HA sounds like a MT and Migraine combo. Thats the nausia part. Yuk! Get well Nani!! Lance |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by Sandy_C on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:42pm Nani, have a family history (BIG time) of Migranes. I get them, the classic Migrane, but not often. Mine start with a vision distortion, like a pinpoint of bright white light, right in the middle of my vision, which slowly expands in jagged circle to the outer limits of my vision. No pain while this goes on. Then, once the vision distortion disappears, the HA starts. It's not one sided, it encompasses the whole upper head, with equal pain both sides. Lasts anywhere from one hr to three days. Always nausea when the headache has been around for at least two hours or more, sometimes even vomiting. Can't stand light, noise, go and lay down in complete darkness with cold compress on head. Any of this sounding like what you've experienced? Like they are saying, could be a combo of HA's, but which HA's. Don't know what to tell you, Hun. If it's migrane, extra strength Excedrin helps me, but does not turn it off. Commercials say use Imitrex, but have never tried it for a migrane. My suggestion would be, since this is new and different for you, check with your Doc. Hope you feel better soon. One type of HA is enough! Sandy |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by pattik on Mar 9th, 2006, 4:52pm Nani, I guess I'm one of the lucky ones, in that my migraines have all but gone away in the last few years. I still get an aura--exactly the way Sandy_C describes it, any pain after the aura is minimal. What I remember most about migraines when I was getting them a lot, is the throbbing, nausea, and a total need to hold still in the dark. They also responded quite well to bio-feedback methods after I learned how to do it. This is not the case with my CH. Hope you get through this pain quickly. Hugs, Pat. |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by lionsound on Mar 9th, 2006, 8:55pm Hey nani [smiley=hug.gif] I hope that if you are going to keep a journal again it means that you will talk to a doc about this... if it's new for you please get it checked out. PF's for you! |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by deltadarlin on Mar 10th, 2006, 7:46am Nani, Hope this finds you a bit better. I have atypical or waht are called *functional migraines* (dont' have any of the auras or sensitivities and I can continue to *function*~somewhat, anyway). I also have tension headaches that almost always accompany the migraine. Mine usually start with a burning at the base of my head/neck (almost always on the right side) and I can literally feel it *crawl* up the back of my head over my ear and into the eye socket. I've taken Imitrex which worked fine and now I take Maxalt (works even better without some of the side effects of the Imitrex). OTC meds don't work at all and with me, might as well be eating M&M's for all the relief I get. Carolyn |
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Title: Re: Migrainers... can you describe your HAs for me Post by nani on Mar 10th, 2006, 8:42am Thank you all for your help. Given the info here, I'd have to say I had a migraine/tension combo. :-/ I finally took 2 Excedrin Migraine and it eased up after about 45 minutes. I can't take triptans, sooo... :( When I have a CH (even a bad one) I know it'll be over in an hour or so, so I hang on. This mutha was not going away. I'd put the pain level at a 7, worse when I moved my head. Pulsing, throbbing, well, anyway, it was awful. My plan is to battle this the same way I do my CH, and hope for the best. Prevents rarely made a difference with CH, I doubt they'll help with this. Eric, Paul... when you described those combo HAs, I nearly passed out from the thought! I'm sorry you have to go through that. :'( hugs to all, nani |
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