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(Message started by: Donna_D. on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:07pm)

Title: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Donna_D. on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:07pm

http://i2.tinypic.com/orqnmw.jpg

I cant get this to work...is there something wrong with this setup??

I do not want to have to network these suckers.

Any suggestions?

DD

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:15pm

Your LynkSys 4 port router and VOIP router need to be in the same IP range. I.E. 192.168.100.xx
And the PC's need a static IP in that range or have the router assign the IP. I'm not familiar w/ voice over IP routers, but they may need to be assigned to the same IP range.
Maybe?
TomM

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Donna_D. on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:22pm

I can get four of the six hooked up without the use of the router and the switch...

My boss put a baboon in charge of IT at our office..

DD = Baboon

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by nani on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:26pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v203/nani36/aarrgghhh.jpg

Sorry, I'm a tech-tard, so I can't help you. :-[

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:30pm

on 02/28/06 at 13:22:56, Donna_D. wrote:

My boss put a baboon in charge of IT at our office..
DD = Baboon

Your boss is too cheap to buy an 8 or 16 port router?

on 02/28/06 at 13:22:56, Donna_D. wrote:

I can get four of the six hooked up without the use of the router and the switch...

So, you basiacally have 6 PC's sharing the thru put of one port, right?
That will be S-L-O-W.

on 02/28/06 at 13:07:55, Donna_D. wrote:

http://i2.tinypic.com/orqnmw.jpgI do not want to have to network these suckers.
DD

Hate to break it to you, this is a network.

Have you gone here? http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2677

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Donna_D. on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:34pm

Whenever I introduce the router into the configuration I get nada..zip...squat.

I have everything hooked up directly to the back of the comcast modem temporarily.

I've reset the router, check the IP addresses...taken the switch out of the configuration, put the switch back IN the configuration.

I know the router is good as I had it hooked up and was using it to route when we had DSL

DD

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:36pm

Have you gone here?
http://linksys.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/linksys.cfg/php/enduser/std_adp.php?p_faqid=2677

And when you say "when I introduce the router..." do you mean the VOIP router?

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Donna_D. on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:41pm

No the 4 port Linksys Router....

Everything is hunky dorey up to that point...

And all of this is wired...not wireless.

DD :-/

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Melissa on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:45pm

wha wha WHY is this thread in Chinese????? [smiley=bigcry.gif] [smiley=bigcry.gif] [smiley=bigcry.gif]

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Feb 28^th, 2006, 1:50pm

I found this on DLink:

http://www.dlink.com/products/VoIP/images/diagram_incoming.gif

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by burnt-toast on Feb 28^th, 2006, 2:27pm

This may sound strange but for this configuration to work I believe you need a second IP address assigned to your account. Contact Comcast, explain your configuration to their tech. support and they should be able to quickly verify if a second address is needed.

It's very inexpensive - I think $4 more a month and can be done in minutes.

In this configuration the Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router W/4 port switch and Linksys 8 port workgroup switch may appear to the carrier as two seperate networks (I believe).

I'm not certain why the network is being configured this way so I will only say - you may - if you want only one network - replace the Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router W/4 port switch with a larger compatible router/switch/firewall.

I emphasize firewall because from what I see here the network is very exposed to intrusion.

Hope this helps.

Tom

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Feb 28^th, 2006, 3:30pm

on 02/28/06 at 14:27:53, burnt-toast wrote:

In this configuration the Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router W/4 port switch and Linksys 8 port workgroup switch may appear to the carrier as two seperate networks (I believe).

I believe the same.

on 02/28/06 at 14:27:53, burnt-toast wrote:

I'm not certain why the network is being configured this way so I will only say - you may - if you want only one network - replace the Linksys EtherFast Cable/DSL Router W/4 port switch with a larger compatible router/switch/firewall.

I emphasize firewall because from what I see here the network is very exposed to intrusion.
Tom

I think $$$ is the issue, here. But one piece of equipment would replace two.
TomM

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by medic1852 on Feb 28^th, 2006, 3:49pm

Just a thought but have you tried......

http://www.rothcpa.com/archives/misc/Tin%20Foil%20hat.jpg

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Charlie on Feb 28^th, 2006, 6:03pm

http://www.schildersmilies.de/schilder/nothatway.gif

Just kidding. I have no real idea what this is all about

Lots luck.

Charlie

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Drk^Angel on Mar 1^st, 2006, 9:30am

Okay... I have no experience with the Comcast cable modem, but I'm guessing that if it has 4 ports, it prolly also have router settings (DHCP and other crap). And, of course, the Linsys is a router. So what I'm wondering... Are you using DHCP on this network, and which router is setup as the DHCP server? Also... Why do you need the second router? If the second router is necessary, then you set it up as a pass-through device, and turn off the router functions, because this may conflict with the router/modem (NAT, DHCP, Gateways, etc...) Also... Have to changed the settings on the Linksys router, to reflect the new setup? If it's still using the settings from when it was connected to DSL, these settings may be the problem.

Basically... Check the modem's settings... Check the router's settings... Make sure one one is acting as a router to prevent conflicts. Otherwise (if you actually meant to have two routers set up in sequence) the VoIP might not function.

PFDAN........................................... Drk^Angel

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Opus on Mar 1^st, 2006, 11:04am

Maybe this will help.

What you want is the 8 port switch connected to your modem, then the VOIP routers connected to that. This is because the modem is actually a NAT( network address translation)/router in itself. The 4 port Linksys router can be connected to one of the other ports of the modem, but not in-line.

Read this (http://www.vonage.com/help.php?article=902&category=90&nav=3)

Use setup A and pretend that your switch is the router shown.

Opus/Paul

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by Donna_D. on Mar 2^nd, 2006, 3:23am

Removed the 4 port router...

Three days later...

Found out I had a bad switch...right out of the box...DOA.

Replaced the switch.

Everything is hunky dorey again :)

Thanks for all the great advice, y'all.

DD

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by TomM on Mar 2^nd, 2006, 10:04am

on 03/02/06 at 03:23:23, Donna_D. wrote:

Removed the 4 port router...

Found out I had a bad switch...right out of the box...DOA.
DD

Dam, whodda thunk it?
Glad you're up and running.
TomM

Title: Re: ARRRRGHHH
Post by burnt-toast on Mar 2^nd, 2006, 11:29am

Geat news! But please don't overlook the network's risk of exposure.

My hardware firewalls are constantly dropping IPs and endless series of IP ranges attempting to hack our networks.

Some of these folks are relentless and using automation to find weaknesses to be exploited across the globe.

Tom