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(Message started by: Carl_D on Feb 20th, 2006, 4:46am)

Title: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by Carl_D on Feb 20th, 2006, 4:46am
We call fighting the beast and riding out a cluster "dancing". Methinks we have it all wrong. Why you may ask?

"Dancing" is a happy thing. It is fun. We dance at parties, weddings and nightclubs. We dance with someone we love. We dance all night long if we can. We want to dance.

However, in the hard music scene there is what is called "Slam Dancing" that is fun for some people (thrashing about and slamming into each other, circling in what they call 'the pit' ). It is also called "Moshing". However it is not fun for everyone. In fact, some people get seriously injured in 'the pit'. Being a musician, I like to get as close to the stage as possible during shows so I can watch the musicians and what they are playing.
There have been times when I have done this back in the day when I got "caught in the mosh" - to coin a phrase by the band Anthrax. One concert I was almost up against the stage and within the first 5 minutes of the show, someone did a stage dive (jumping up on the stage and diving in the crowd) and I was kicked in the head by a boot. I wound up missing the rest of the show. It was a major drag. My old funk/thrash band Zeal had banned stage diving at our shows because we had seen so many people get injured with heads split open, etc. THAT is no fun at all.

So, I propose we change the term 'dancing' in reference to battling the beast to 'moshing'.

Just a suggestion.  ;)

Peace,
Carl D

Title: Re: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by Jasmyn on Feb 20th, 2006, 7:21am
http://www.dance4it.com/dancehistory.htm

Dances in primitive cultures all had as their subject matter the changes experienced by people throughout their lives, changes that occurred as people grew from childhood to old age, those they experienced as the seasons moved from winter to summer and back again, changes that came about as tribes won their wars or suffered defeats.

Two sorts of dance evolved as cultures developed: social dances on occasions that celebrated births, commemorated deaths, and marked special events in between; and magical or religious dances to ask the gods to end a famine, to provide rain, or to cure the sick. The medicine men of primitive cultures, whose powers to invoke the assistance of a god were feared and respected, are considered by many to be the first choreographers, or composers of formal dances.

Originally rhythmic sound accompaniment was provided by the dancers themselves. Eventually a separate rhythmic accompaniment evolved, probably played on animal skins stretched over wooden frames and made into drums or similar instruments. Later, melodies were added; these might have imitated birdcalls or other sounds of nature, or they might have been a vocal expression of the dancers' or musicians' state of mind. The rhythmic beat, however, was the most important element. This pulsation let all the dancers keep time together, and it helped them to remember their movements too. By controlling the rhythm, the leader of a communal dance could regulate the pace of the movement.

There is also a large vocabulary of gestures that originated as a means of expressing bodily needs. Caresses are universally taken to signify tender feelings. Clenched fists mean anger. Hopping up and down indicates excitement. Primitive dancers used all of these movements in both their social and religious or magical dances. These dances were not created and performed for entertainment, as many dances are today. One of the major reasons for them was to help tribes survive. Long before the written word could guarantee that traditions would be passed on and respected, it was dance that helped the tribe preserve its continuity.


Carl I think we can safely say that we do dance with the beast ;)



Title: Re: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by Svenn on Feb 20th, 2006, 9:49am
Cant understand why but the only namer that pops in to my leftover-brain is fighting "General Cluster".
or was it General Custer?

Flame away folks


Svenn

Title: Re: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by Jasmyn on Feb 20th, 2006, 9:59am

on 02/20/06 at 09:49:13, Svenn wrote:
Cant understand why but the only namer that pops in to my leftover-brain is fighting "General Cluster".
or was it General Custer?

Flame away folks


Svenn


It was General Custard and apparently his partner is Lady Pudding.

Wanna dance Svenn?

Title: Re: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by sandie99 on Feb 20th, 2006, 11:03am
Crap! ;;D
And here I have been happily planning to write a novel about living with ch with a title "Dancing with the Devil". And now you want me to change my title...I don't know about you, but "Moshing with the Devil" doesn't work that well on a cover of a book. ;)

Naturally, before I can write that future international bestseller (I'm Miss Optimisic, after all.. ;)), I have to finish MA dissertation and other literary projects like that...

Best wishes,
Sanna  

Title: Re: I Propose We Amend Something Here...
Post by FramCire on Feb 20th, 2006, 11:16am

on 02/20/06 at 11:03:37, sandie99 wrote:
Crap! ;;D
And here I have been happily planning to write a novel about living with ch with a title "Dancing with the Devil". And now you want me to change my title...I don't know about you, but "Moshing with the Devil" doesn't work that well on a cover of a book. ;)


Best wishes,
Sanna  


What about "Moshing with Mr. Mefistofeles" or get rid of the Mr.?



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