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Title: RESPECT Post by wildhaus on Feb 18th, 2006, 12:56pm Hi..... Although I know some will find this entry as rude or even in some way patronizing....... and a good way for a newbie to have from the start angering people. And after a long thought I decided to enter this “message” on the board… It was my luck at a unlucky time that I ( actually my wife) found this website… which helped me with a lot of answers to more questions and doubts I had… and for that I am grateful (in a way words can not express), BUT!!! Unfortunately I had an early morning “wake up call”, and got to the computer…. and started to go through some of the “boards”…….. I believe I am among civilized people whose interest is to share knowledge and experience about an unfortunate situation….. and support each other in their weak moments as well as in their happy ones… But I was saddened and in a way very disappointed to see the sort of language and bashing in more than a few of the posts on the boards… We all share a goal…or so I believe… to hang the demons tools on the wall…. And for the new ones a new prospect and help in dealing with CH, giving ideas or just a nice word of encouragement and support…. It helped me!!!! And for that, again, I am more than grateful to you all… But If one posts an idea or what ever… I might agree with it or disagree and if I have an opinion I will most likely voice my opinion… at time nice, at times sarcastically BUT At all time respectfully!!! And using PROPER language, used among civilized people. And if a post angers me…I will voice my anger BUT respectfully!!!! I am aware of the SO CALLED CH sufferers… little time charlatans, and yes I did fall for one of them my self…(on a different website) … To this pitiful people…if you read this… you abuse others misfortune for your own pleasure…or personal gain and in normal societies we call them sadists – and then you should seek help yourself…this is a disorder!!!! And if its for personal gain, I will analog it to nature (so I avoid using profanities): we call them ticks sucking out of its host with no return whatsoever, and on top in most of the cases, harm the host that nurtures them!!! Just drop your habit, and leave us alone, please. And if you don’t, every soap bubble is bound to pop… “A mans character is his fate” (heraclitus) And… Any type of good discussion and even argument is productive and might bring good ideas to all of us…. and what could be more or better than a good idea that could help? But With respect to others’ thoughts or ideas Criticism…. more than welcome But Let it be constructive, and in a friendly and respectful manner! The Talmud teaches us: who saves just one person is like he saved the whole world… (I hope I did quoted this correctly in English) Therefore if an idea helped only one person, its like it helped us all I think I made my point… If you agree or disagree with me, pls just do it in a mannered and respectful way, despite cultural or in spite cultural differences… it makes us all so colorful and even more interesting…. What a nice way of sharing my weak moments as well as the happy ones with so many ppl who do care and are interested… and I don’t even know you…and still feel like you are my best friends… and an anker in rough seas… Michael |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jonny on Feb 18th, 2006, 1:15pm on 02/18/06 at 12:56:43, wildhaus wrote:
We are so sorry your feelings were hurt, Mike....I promise we will try to be better people ::) Some people ;;D |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 18th, 2006, 1:26pm I think a lot of us are feeling the same way right now michael. This isnt a place for retarded pissing matches, if you wanna get into a retarded pissing match, go to yahoo.com chat. PF wishes B$ Edited to clarify: Its not the people I think are acting retarded, its the act of the flame war, pissing matches, and superiority complexes that are retarded in my opinion. If anyone was offended at my choice of word "retarded" as it is a derogtory insulting word, I apologize. I know that word is mean and I should have never said it. Please forgive me. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Charlie on Feb 18th, 2006, 2:10pm Pretty good Michael. We need to be shaken up now and then. You should have seen the old board. Most of the fun was had at the expense of medical crackpots and other cranks. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/2 rant.gif I was one of the worst there. I'll work on it. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/love spray.gif Charlie |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Guiseppi on Feb 18th, 2006, 2:45pm You indicate english is not your first language, yet you eloquently wrote out many of my thoughts. In the CH chat room, I speak with people who say they don't read the board or post anymore because it is mostly R rated. I too am eternally grateful to this board for turning me on to the meds that gave me back a semi normal life again. I will conitnue to post and try to help people with what little knowledge I have of this malady. If someone is a troll...mark him as such and then move on. 10 pages of profanity laced bashing just feeds their sick egos. I still love you all and again, owe my level of normalcy to you. End of my rant! Guiseppi |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jasmyn on Feb 18th, 2006, 2:52pm Michael, I do apologise for all of us and our behaviour. Unfortunately we cannot become better people, we've tried but failed miserably due to our inherent voices. This is still the best place for CHers and Trolls are a part of this modern technology. I hope we all had a good bash at the latest Troll/s, the pent up emotions spewing from our lips, fingers and brains got some release and that we are good again for a period of relative peace. This will exclude the bashing of the medical profession and yanking each others chains. Peace. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by cootie on Feb 18th, 2006, 3:51pm I agree it gets tireing when someone relentlessly goes at it......and I've seen it bring the WORST out in people and some have went to far with it. But......at the same time.......this place is really no different then any BIG family that see's each other daily in a round about way. Same way with large groups of close friends.....I see this go on all the time. And as with this site it seems to come in sessions.......then it blows over and things are all cool again for a while. I suppose it depends on how social you are at home to wether you see it happen much or even understand that it does.....but unfortunetly does. Brad has a LARGE family and it is not without conficts.....we hang out with 'several' close groups of freinds from different areas and I can't believe some of the shit that goes on at times and it gets everyone involved and takeing sides. I've seen alot of GOOD long friendships go down the tubes too cuz of it.....it's all how you take it too. If it doesn't hurt you personally to effect your life or way of liveing it should be easy to ignore and just step around the shit. I don't mean to sound HARSH or like a know it all......but I DO see this happen in everyday life. It's NOT that different. Enjoy the good.......walk past the bad Pam Just gotta make things work for yourself and learn to TUNE out the bad stuff. Not been in a group yet of any kind that didn't have the crap sessions from time to time. Sad but true. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 18th, 2006, 4:05pm This place is like a family. Families don't always get along, but they are always there for each other when we need them to be. This is the "Daily Chat", "General Posts" area of the message board. A lot of crazy shit happens here, but you are not forced to read it. There are other aspects to this site, like the meds section, the cluster specific section, etc. Those are wonderful places for help & support on clusters. Reminder, this whole MB is unmoderated, so it's post at your own risk. The only advice I can give is to think before you click "post". Welcome to the family Michael, you're welcome here. But I would advise not wasting your breath on trying to create an atmosphere "you" desire around here. It's got a life of its own. ;) take care, :)mel |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Richr8 on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:01pm on 02/18/06 at 16:05:06, Melissa wrote:
on 02/18/06 at 16:05:06, Melissa wrote:
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:16pm on 02/18/06 at 17:01:42, Richr8 wrote:
I will reiterate that this MB is unmoderated. It's up to the poster whether or not to make that post that makes a thread 11+ pages long. For myself, when I'm finished with a thread, I'll say so, unless something pops up in someones post that interests me, then I'll respond. Those long threads do not dominate the board forever, they do eventually end up on page 2. ;) Hope you're having a good Saturday. :) mel |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:22pm Very well said, Mel! It's kind of an "Enter at Your Own Risk" type of a place! Or as one of the wise people here put it - take what you want and leave the rest. Carol |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:24pm on 02/18/06 at 17:22:25, Grandma_Sweet_Boy wrote:
Oh God Carol, stop giving credit to Den! [smiley=laugh.gif] ;) |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by wildhaus on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:41pm Quote The only advice I can give is to think before you click "post". Why didnt I think of it Quote Best advice I think so to! or use first the preveiew button Quote This is still the best place for CHers yes it is (I wish I didnt have to) and I am in this vallage to stay... By the way what are troll/s? |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:41pm Nope. THIS is the best advice: Quote:
and yes Carol. Stop giving Den so much credit. ::) Linda |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by PL259 on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:49pm on 02/18/06 at 16:05:06, Melissa wrote:
Well said, just like a TV or radio, they all got an on and off switch. There are many things on the board I don't "click" on. A wise old hippie once told me he hits the preview button before each post. I try to do the same thing and still let emotion get the best of me sometimes :-[ But you are absolutely right that criticism in a constructive or positive manner should be the norm. However the real electro/internet screwed world doesn't work that way. It is far to easy for some to sit and type on their keyboard and be "bullet proof and indestructible", instead of responsible. Thanks for pointing that out. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Richr8 on Feb 18th, 2006, 5:49pm on 02/18/06 at 17:16:41, Melissa wrote:
Good to hear. :) |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Opus on Feb 18th, 2006, 6:03pm on 02/18/06 at 17:16:41, Melissa wrote:
This board is moderated and threads have been locked or deleted. This happens only in the most severe cases, and usually before that happens and when you think that DJ is not reading the board, he will post a warning before he takes action. While a lot if Internet boards are over moderated this one is not. That fact makes this board special, especially to CH sufferers who tend to be a bit more coarse then sufferers of other illnesses. Opus/Paul |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 18th, 2006, 6:07pm on 02/18/06 at 18:03:06, Opus wrote:
Yeah, like Paul here... He's WAY coarse!! No, actually he just likes to pick apart shit, but I accept him just the way he is, like most people do here. ;) |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Linda_Howell on Feb 18th, 2006, 6:37pm Quote:
I so totally resent that Paul. Or are you referring to our skin type.? ;;D Yeah and I love you just the way you are also. Linda |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Mark C on Feb 18th, 2006, 8:29pm on 02/18/06 at 17:41:34, wildhaus wrote:
If I may.....click here. (http://members.aol.com/intwg/trolls.htm) |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by broomhilda on Feb 18th, 2006, 9:28pm on 02/18/06 at 13:26:50, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
This thread is about respect...going fucking learn some >:( |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by the_old_man on Feb 19th, 2006, 8:19am I LIKE BEANS! Good beans! And I like them best cooked in a pressure cooker. The concept is to cook them under pressure, but to allow for a regulator to gradually release the pressure so that it doesn't blow and put beans all over the ceiling. Kinda hard to get the nourishment out of them when that happens. What I don't like is the incessant hissing noise that comes from that gradual release. It's irritating and nerve-grating, but necessary. You put up with it because you know the end result will be good. I just avoid the kitchen when that is happening. When DJ set up this board, he realized that CHers are under a lot of pressure and needed some kind of release mechanism. That's why he catergorized the areas on the board to provide for areas where the beans can be served in comfort, as well as an area where steam can be released so the beans don't end up on the ceiling. Hence we have the "General Posts" area. If you don't want to hear the hissing, don't go into the kitchen. But don't disconnect the regulator or the beans are gonna blow! Just the random thoughts of... The Old Man |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 19th, 2006, 8:32am on 02/19/06 at 08:19:10, the_old_man wrote:
This has got to be the best analogy of this place I've EVER read!!! Awesome post Old Man!!! :)melly |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by JenniferD on Feb 19th, 2006, 8:42am on 02/18/06 at 12:56:43, wildhaus wrote:
Michael, your post was well-put and perfectly timed, and I appreciate your thoughts. There have been many, many days I come in and only read one or two posts now, from people I know are not screaming an insult from the first sentence of their thread. I have been out of cycle since Dec, but continue to come in to be supportive or share joys in others' lives, but recently all I see is ugliness. I wouldn't blame anyone for thinking the worst of us or not coming back here. Let's hope that the worst is over, and we can all do a "spring-cleaning" of our attitudes. We have enough to fight - lets not add fighting each other. peace, Jen |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:36am on 02/18/06 at 21:28:09, broomhilda wrote:
Excuse you? I dont understand broken english, but it sounded like you just disrespected me in a thread talking about respect. BMonee |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by chewy on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:39am Quote:
You get what you earn. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:43am on 02/19/06 at 11:39:56, chewy wrote:
I earned disrespect by telling people to go to Yahoo.com for flame wars and pissing matches? I dont understand, please expand . Thanks B$ |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by chewy on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:45am Figure it out. It has more personal value that way. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:48am Bro, why are you being like this? Cant you just discuss your opinion? I dont believe telling people to refrain from flame wars and pissing matches on CH.com is earning disresect, but I am open to hear your point of view and maybe then can rethink my point of view. Thanks man B$ |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jonny on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:50am on 02/19/06 at 11:43:01, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Thats right....who the fuck are to tell anyone to go anywhere? Since when did you start making the fucking rules in my Kingdom asswipe? Now sit down and shut the fuck up!! |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by chewy on Feb 19th, 2006, 11:59am Quote:
I'm not being like anything. Re read your post and think about it. Heres a hint. Not what you said, its how you said it. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 12:12pm on 02/19/06 at 11:50:21, Jonny wrote:
I hope you feel better Jonny. Feel free to unload on me if it makes you feel better. I wont return the name calling or insults. I'm here for you if you need me. B$ |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jonny on Feb 19th, 2006, 12:17pm on 02/19/06 at 12:12:51, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Is it me or does that sound just like, Burt......posting as two people? |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by jimmers on Feb 19th, 2006, 12:33pm I'm not sure jonny, but I kind of thought the same thing. Hmmmm Jimmers |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jonny on Feb 19th, 2006, 12:35pm on 02/19/06 at 12:33:19, jimmers wrote:
They are both some kind of "Man".....Hmmmmm!! |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Charlie on Feb 19th, 2006, 1:09pm http://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/remake/tomato2.gif?SSImageQuality=Fullhttp://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/standart/punish.gif?SSImageQuality=Fullhttp://www.kolobok.wrg.ru/smiles/remake/haha.gif?SSImageQuality=Full Charlie http://subscribe.smileygenerator.us/all/albums/naughty//yankchain.gif |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by broomhilda on Feb 19th, 2006, 1:20pm on 02/19/06 at 11:36:30, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Clearly your grasp for reading and comprehension of the english language is a skill that needs fine tuning... TY Jonny and chewy :-* |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 1:26pm on 02/19/06 at 13:20:33, broomhilda wrote:
You are right broom, clearly it was not mature to respond to your insult with another insult, for that i apologize. But, insults aside, can you expand on what it is you said earlier? What is it you think I was disrespectful about? Why did you tell me i need to learn some respect? Understand broom, i am not flaming you and i certainly dont want to get into a useless pissing match with you. But, really, i want to know what it was that made you think i am disrespectful. Thanks BMonee |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by broomhilda on Feb 19th, 2006, 1:29pm I think chewy said it best, re-read your original post and think about what, who and why you disrespected. If I have to lay it out for you then you will never get it... I am not into pissing matches either, I guess if you dont get it after three people layed it out for you then I give up Andrea |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 1:38pm on 02/19/06 at 13:29:18, broomhilda wrote:
Thank you andrea, please dont give up. I am slow to understand and I am one of those males that really do need it spelled out. Don was nice enough to discuss it with me and I have modified my original post in this thread. Please re-read it and tell me if I have adressed what you may mean. Thanks BMonee |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by wildhaus on Feb 19th, 2006, 2:13pm Hi Again… First I would like to thank all of you who read the opening “statement” thread and to the ones that took their time to answer [smiley=thumb.gif], It is a lively discussion… [smiley=cool2.gif] I will ask first BmoneeTheMoneeMan, was it me you asked to go to yahoo? I do hope I misunderstood you and you were offering to the ones called “trolls” to use that platform for there doings… But If I am the one you are sending there “ well… sorry if I did hurt you in any way” but I am in this village to stay…and trust me, if I would have had the choice I would not have be even remotely familiar with the term Cluster headaches and life would look “slightly” different for me…!! So please accept my apologies and let us get along…and respect each other… I still respect you!!! :) And even though I am a newbie and like I stated from the start…I am the one that still needs to learn, and a lot of it…next to the fact that I still didn’t come to terms with the Idea that I am in this for the time being… (For life?), :( But my dear friend (if I may call you friend) its you who can gain to from new comers like me… And this is what makes this little world of ours (yes it is my world to) so nice and important… It’s the nurturing ground from all and for all as well as a place to share our pains and aches and happy moments- Just got of the thread with the story of the aunt who had the “answer“… sorry that it is the wrong one But didn’t we all have the same answer at a certain point? Well, I sure did ……. Or another thred (and so sweet) with the baby blanket, there is nothing more beautiful than seeing it And the sheer happiness and pride of DOING something right!!!! I can go on and on… yes there are much pain and sorrow…but the good people with a “ hug” and a nice word make one feel better… But most important is the vast “know-how” offered on these “Boards” and the readiness of ppl. to share their knowledge with the new ones……….and the “experienced” ones In the “storm” of the unknown…. This place for me was in a (big) way an anchor… to normal life… And foremost my wife who made me read and look at the boards… and when you know you are not alone (as an Individual and as family) its much easier to accept the verdict…and to deal with it. Michael |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Feb 19th, 2006, 2:25pm on 02/19/06 at 14:13:16, wildhaus wrote:
Sorry I wasnt more clear with how i felt. Michael, I was just simply adding to your point of RESPECT. I was usig a technique called diversion, where I was tryng to divert disrespectful, insulting, name calling, flame war crap to any place other than clusterheadaches.com I just used Yahoo.com as one example of a place that one could go if they wanted to simply start or flame on fights. And of course, michael, i was not telling you to go post that on yahoo. Your post was awesome, and i agree with you 100%. BMonee |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by sandie99 on Feb 19th, 2006, 2:43pm Michael, good post! :) One thing I like here at ch.com is that you'll never know what will happen, when you post something. Naturally, it can be a bad thing, too. But the diversity of opinions is, to me, more strength than a fault. It's a good time to talk about respect. To me, it always goes hand in hand with caring. Families care about each other and this is, after all, Cluster Family. :) Sanna |
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Title: lovely Post by dennisoc on Feb 20th, 2006, 1:11am some fella wearin a smiley shirt shot some other fella at a peace rally. wacky humans den |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Drk^Angel on Feb 20th, 2006, 2:11am Why Do We Fight So -- KEK 2/20/2006 Why do we fight so, Continuously picking at each other, Ripping ourselves apart, Shredding what we are inside, Destroying what makes us whole, Until we are hollow, Just a broken shell, And yet we go on, It never ends, Even when there's nothing left, It never ends, Like a nightmare, You can't wake up from, It all melts, And mixes, Into a nasty blur, And in the end, All that is left, Is the hurt and pain, That we create for ourselves. PFDAN.................................. Drk^Angel |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Jasmyn on Feb 20th, 2006, 3:27am Touchè Kenn. Human Nature... always our philosophical question. |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by seasonalboomer on Feb 20th, 2006, 10:33am So much drama, so little time. :'( :'( Melissa's comment is one that we should all hang on the wall regarding CH.com "But I would advise not wasting your breath on trying to create an atmosphere "you" desire around here. It's got a life of its own." I wanna hang out with people like Melissa. ;) Scott |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Melissa on Feb 20th, 2006, 11:11am I don't know if you want to do that Scott, I just told someone to fuck off in another thread. [smiley=laugh.gif] (very rarely will I post such words) |
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Title: Re: RESPECT Post by Ghost on Feb 20th, 2006, 11:23am Mel!!!!!!! :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X :-X Me too! Only cause I am at work!!!! ;;D ;;D ;) See I go for almost a week and CHen bashing starts! >:( That is reserved for The court jesters (CHesters) ;;D [smiley=laugh.gif] And of course the King. [smiley=bow.gif] [smiley=bow.gif] I thought we covered this a while back but I guess not, oh by the way are we ever gonna get ladies pics to hijack again? [smiley=moon.gif] [smiley=moonwiggle.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] |
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