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(Message started by: floridatwo on Feb 5th, 2006, 9:17pm)

Title: Heart Survey
Post by floridatwo on Feb 5th, 2006, 9:17pm
My wife ,who has been my life line during the last 20+ years of clusters, has a theory concerning the headaches. I had a heart attack 3 years ago and had to have 2 stints implanted. Immediately afterward, no more clusters after suffering since 1977. I recently had a little problem and was told the stints are about 30% clogged and may need replacement down the road. Guess what?? The clusters started again the middle of January 2006. Could there be a connection between circulation and clusters??

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Jenny G on Feb 5th, 2006, 9:34pm
Hmmm... I constantly have really cold hands & feet and a problem with varicous veins (all signs of circulation issues)

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Carl_D on Feb 5th, 2006, 9:44pm
I came up with a theory about 6 or 7 years ago that maybe the reason they cannot find the cause of clusters is because the head is merely suffering the symptom of  a problem elsewhere in the body. If it is a vascular condition, could it be possible that the cause is maybe some minute flaw in the heart that goes undetected? (I talked the ears off a few people at convention in Nashville about my theory).

I know there have been a couple of CHers who had heart issues and afterwards their CH's went away. So, this makes me question even more the possibility that the head is suffering the symptom of a problem elsewhere, most likely the heart.

Peace,
Carl D


*I have to add, I also have some circulation problems, and some major leg issues due to poor circulation. Hmmm.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Jasmyn on Feb 6th, 2006, 12:04am
I'm the ice queen when it comes to cold hands and feet, so far with all the test done, no heart problem has been identified but it makes you wonder.

Like Carl said maybe some minute flaw?

Then again there are other symptoms that do not correlate with only a heart condition.

I hope someone finds the cause soon so that an active solution can be found.  It is good though to explore all avenues of probable cause.


Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by sandie99 on Feb 6th, 2006, 3:05am
Well, I haven't had problems with my heart, yet, but my hands and feet are always cold. Even in the sauna!
When I was first diagnosed, that neuro said that cold hands and feet and ch are part of the same thing and that it's "a blood circulation thing". That was the official theory about ch in Finland in January 2002. Don't know it they have changed their minds since...

Sanna

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by kayarr on Feb 6th, 2006, 3:28am
My CHer had  a stent put in Sept. 2004.  He also has w/o medication so pretty bad cholesterol.  As I said before he had a three or four day off after surgery and for him that is a vacation from clusters.

I don't know.....I know I am not a Dr. but there has to be some common thread that everyone is missing.  

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by floridian on Feb 6th, 2006, 7:24am
This page deals with some of those observation and questions:

http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Anticoagulants

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by JenniferD on Feb 6th, 2006, 8:04am
ummm,   I have a heart murmur.  And in '83 or '84, damn near got frostbite to both feet.  Haven't been able to keep my feet warm since.  First known cluster cycle began in Oct '85.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by floridatwo on Feb 6th, 2006, 9:13am

on 02/06/06 at 07:24:04, floridian wrote:
This page deals with some of those observation and questions:

http://www.med-owl.com/clusterheadaches/tiki-index.php?page=Anticoagulants


Thanks for the WEB site Floridian. I've been taking 7 mgs of coumadin daily due to problems with blood clots for 3 years. Blood stays pretty thin and yet CH's returned. Still might be something to do with circulation.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by floridian on Feb 6th, 2006, 9:32am
Yeah, I wouldn't say that thick blood is the cause, just that it aggravates or contributes to the clusters.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by aprilbee on Feb 6th, 2006, 9:47am
I had a heart murmer as a teenager, never made a difference to my headaches...(I've had them since I was 12) my hands and feet are always hot...???? :-/  (there's an exception to every rule though..) might be interesting research...

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Gena on Feb 6th, 2006, 11:36am
Wasn't there a study posted on the board a while back, suggesting a correlation between, not only CH patients and heart defects but migraine patients as well?

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by nani on Feb 6th, 2006, 11:46am

on 02/06/06 at 11:36:43, Gena wrote:
Wasn't there a study posted on the board a while back, suggesting a correlation between, not only CH patients and heart defects but migraine patients as well?


There's a bunch of stuff on it online. I can't ever use the search on this board, so Google patent foramen ovale and migraine

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Gena on Feb 6th, 2006, 12:02pm
Thanks Nani

I found this

http://www.w-h-a.org/wha2/NewSite/print.asp?idContentNews=791

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Bob P on Feb 6th, 2006, 2:35pm

Quote:
who has been my life line during the last 20+ years of clusters


If you've been at it for 20+ years, I would guess that you are old enough that your cluster cycles may just be changing and it has nothing to do with your heart.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by TomM on Feb 6th, 2006, 3:12pm
I have no heart issues at all.
TomM

Edit: I'm also 43, have normal BP, very low cholesterol [139] but am a tad on the heavy side; 5'10" @ 212 lbs.

Title: Re: Heart Survey
Post by Charlie on Feb 7th, 2006, 11:31am
I have a theory that when serious trauma, childbirth, or big deal surgery take place, the body shifts to some form of high gear for self-preservation. This may be what happens but there is no way of proving it. I do know that it isn't ethereal or some form of wishful thinking; it's physical.

Just something to think about. http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/brain eat.gif

Charlie



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