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(Message started by: stevema on Oct 2^nd, 2005, 3:25pm)

Title: how many of us smoke?
Post by stevema on Oct 2^nd, 2005, 3:25pm

i am not saying it causes CH but i find my lungs seem to be part of the whole syndrome. Could this have something to do with why we don't like to lay down (fluid in lungs spreads out)?
I know many of you don't smoke, but do you have some lung issues, live with a smoker, work in a plant with emission?

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by LeLimey on Oct 2^nd, 2005, 7:14pm

I would just like to say for the record Steve that I don't deliberately set out to bugger up your ideas but..
Don't smoke and never have,
No one in my house smokes, work in a non smoking environment - completely boring! ::)

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by jcmquix on Oct 2^nd, 2005, 9:51pm

I smoke, but I can tell you when I have a HA, its not my Lungs that make me want to put my head through the Dash of my Truck or the concrete wall in my bathroom, its me wanting to stop the Pain in my Head.

Somking seems to ease the CH pain for me, I would probally hurt myself or someone else if I didn't have a smoke when I am having an attack...

Sorry, but seen to many people here who have never been exposed to smoke and they had CH all their lives. Myself even as a teenager, I never smoked and was not around my parents or anyone that smoked that much and I have had these all my life...

Sorry Friend it just don't add up to blame this on Cigg's, even though they are not good for anyone...

God Bless & PFDAN's
Charlie

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by unsolved1 on Oct 2^nd, 2005, 10:35pm

I smoke. If smoking was causing my clusters, I was determined to quit ... so I did quit, for 8 months ( I think). The clusters continued everyday even though I was smoke free. Now I smoke again :-/

UNsolved

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by stevema on Oct 3^rd, 2005, 12:03am

ok, i guessed i was going to hear from you that smoking or not smoking, makes no difference. The only consistent thing about CH is its NOT consistent (though tends to be regular and predictable...just not all the time ;). I just wanted to re-visit this idea about lungs and breathing. A lot of this is CV related, or ENT anyway. Lots to do with air. The main approach for abortion now is Oxygen. I am using exercise (heavy breathing). And I smoke(d) for the last 22 years (about 1.5 years longer than my CH onset) and the smoking didn't seem to be anything except a trigger DURING a cycle, and nothing more or less outside the cycle. Other common triggers include strong scents, perfumes, etc. Smelly stuff, stuff you breathe in.
I really am not purporting to know any answer or even have a decent theory, but I sure as hell want to figure this out and hallelujah god willing end this crazy thing that is messing with us. Thanks for your replies and support, one of these days we just might get it ! Best wishes and PF days and nights to you all !

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by niteowl on Oct 3^rd, 2005, 12:08am

Hello Steve.

In answer to your question: Yes I smoke also. However I don't feel it in my lungs and I like others get some relief from it when I suffering an attack. I had quit smoking for 6 months, and I also was cursed with the monsters again. If I knew that quitting would take these creatures away, I would gladly save myself the $3.50 a pack. Keep me posted on your results. I'll be curious to find out the results.

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by AussieBrian on Oct 3^rd, 2005, 12:19am

The general thought around here is that some 48% of smoke, miles above the 'national average'. Whether this shows cause or result is, of course, anybody's guess.

Best suggestion so far seems to be that CH comes from a broken hypothalamus, the same thing that's involved in addiction to certain substances.

I also hold the government substantially to blame but that's another story.

B.

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by Kate in Oz on Oct 3^rd, 2005, 10:39pm

[smiley=smokin.gif] as I write....

Gave up for 18 months and still got hit! Not to say that the previous 16 years of smoking didn't have an effect ????

Kate

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by Melissa on Oct 4^th, 2005, 9:08am

Smoked for 12 years and got hit. Quit for 1yr and 4 months, got hit. Went back to smoking during cycle because I couldn't suffer through without them (hadn't meds at that time), they actually helped me ride out many attacks until I was able to see my neuro and get some meds. Unfortunately, smoked for awhile after that. Am now smoke free again, and am due for a cycle next year. Am going to NOT smoke when they start up again and try the kudzu instead, and if that doesn't work, there is still other alternatives (including rx meds).

mel

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by marlinsfan on Oct 4^th, 2005, 3:30pm

I quit smoking 8 yrs ago. Still have CH.

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by chewbaccamonkey on Oct 6^th, 2005, 12:39pm

I smoke, doesn't seem to help or harm the head. Sometimes its just a welcome distraction riding one out....wife looks at me like I'm a feaking nut job while I'm smoking in pain though. Must seem odd......

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by giffy76 on Oct 6^th, 2005, 12:47pm

Me me me me me [smiley=smokin.gif] I tried to quit a few times, but don't REEEAALLY want to, it goes way to good with beer ;;D

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by chewbaccamonkey on Oct 6^th, 2005, 12:52pm

yup! beer and smokes.......can't be beat! ;)

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by RandyB on Oct 10^th, 2005, 9:11pm

on 10/02/05 at 22:35:33, unsolved1 wrote:

Same here!! and get this hold on to your hats I used the patch 21mg a day to quite and it aborted all my clusters and prevented them. Until my next cycle came around and now it doesnt work anymore it was a neat trick at first though no ch and getting healthy what could be better. but i am back to the smoke and started Kudzu today.

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by Jasmyn on Oct 11^th, 2005, 12:38am

I smoke

During a period I smoke more

When I first got clusters I didn't smoke

Now when I don't have meds I smoke the green, green grass of home

My lungs were never good

But I still smoke

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by mcf69 on Oct 14^th, 2005, 12:38pm

Quote:

The general thought around here is that some 48% of smoke, miles above the 'national average'. Whether this shows cause or result is, of course, anybody's guess.

I'm sceptical about the whole smoking/CH link. Of everything I've read on the board I've found that some of us don't, some of us do, and regardless we all suffer from clusters. Problem with any studies on it is they have all been taken from a small sample group, I think a little broader research has to be done on it.

Quote:

Now when I don't have meds I smoke the green, green grass of home

Is that the good stuff Jas? ;)

Quote:

My lungs were never good

But I still smoke

Tsk, tsk, tsk, don't make me fly to Africa to give you a good lecture young lady!!!!

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by kelliev on Oct 14^th, 2005, 4:29pm

im with you jas
keeps me sane !!! ;;D

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by rextangle on Oct 16^th, 2005, 1:06pm

[smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Oct 19^th, 2005, 8:52am

I've quit a million times.

Actually, nicotiene seems to be a little help as an abortive when I wake up in the middle of the night with a screaming head. That and coffee.

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by thebbz on Oct 19^th, 2005, 8:40pm

I quit 6 months ago. I still want to smoke, until I think about the Trex I will need in the future.
I still dont smoke.(so far)lol I still will get CH but maybe I wont blow a gasket ten years from now when I do da dance and have to trex it. On the other hand you only live once,smoke it up. :D

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 11:46am

I smoke. It tends to be a comfort for me, if i can, i smoke in the bathroom before huffing the O2.
Jas, you think that helps you? The green green grass of home, i mean?
BMonee

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by BobG on Oct 23^rd, 2005, 10:22am

on 10/03/05 at 00:03:09, stevema wrote:

I just wanted to re-visit this idea about lungs and breathing. A lot of this is CV related, or ENT anyway. Lots to do with air. The main approach for abortion now is Oxygen. I am using exercise (heavy breathing). .

CV related? CardioVascular? Hmmmm….Cardio, I don’t think so. Vascular, maybe.
ENT? EarNoseThroat? Nope.
Lots to do with air? In a very round about way. Lots of air only because you get more oxygen. It’s the oxygen, not the air, you need to abort the pain with exercise or with a mask.

on 10/03/05 at 00:19:08, AussieBrian wrote:

Best suggestion so far seems to be that CH comes from a broken hypothalamus, the same thing that's involved in addiction to certain substances.

I agree. I’ve been reading this site for a number of months now and have noticed that most of us have addictions and/or very strong habits. Some good like chocolate donuts and some not so good like smoking. Damn stinkin’ smokers!

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by zanychef on Oct 23^rd, 2005, 11:49am

regular smoker of both cigarettes and the green ;;D
the green helps to stop stressing during heavy stages and helps keep my appetite going
zany

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by gfdfirefighter on Oct 26^th, 2005, 11:25am

Hi All

Here is a firefighter saying If I See You smokeing I will Assume You Are on Fire and Put You Out ;;D

And yes I do smoke for over 20 years but 2 years ago i quit somkeing Cig's and went to Cigar's they go good with Tequila and beer. You would think with all the crap i inhale at a stucture fire i would quit smokeing but Owell. There have been times when puffin on that log dose help knock down the CH but it is usally twoards the end of a bought not the begining.

You all Have A PF Day

Smiley

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by jason1212 on Oct 26^th, 2005, 3:41pm

I'm a smoker, and I can say this, smoking does seem to help during an attack even if it only helps to take my mind off of it. However I never seem to be able to make it through a whole cig. Also, it is interesting to mention that O2 in high concentrations helps us greatly, now cigs deplete the O2 in our bodies, I'm not a doc or researcher but there could be something to that, I dunno.

-Jason

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by Rebel_Python on Nov 15^th, 2005, 10:06am

I smoke and drink and sometimes will even hit a j. Alcohol is a trigger sometimes and if I'm drinking when I get hit,it seems alot worse,but smoking never caused or aggrivated a hit. As far as the weed,that will make a hit atleast a little more bearable. ::)

Title: Re: how many of us smoke?
Post by Beastfodder on Nov 17^th, 2005, 11:58am

Smoked for years - trad and jazz - and a packet of 20 cigs usually lasts three to four days (Ok one night with too much booze).

It's certainly no trigger for me and kind of a perverse motivation to excercise on a regular basis.

Sorry but I've an image of Zanychef in the kitchen after a bit of the green - you don't specialise in the sweet trolley by any chance?