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(Message started by: girlshavechtoo on Jul 1st, 2004, 7:39pm)
Title: newly self-diagnosed
Post by girlshavechtoo on Jul 1st, 2004, 7:39pm
Hi there! I am a medical professional, and having suffered from these irritating head monsters on and off for years - currently in a cycle of pretty severe ones - I decided to find out just what the heck was the matter with me -  and found out it...it...it has a name!!! I feel better already! After reading some posts, I realize that my suffering is not nearly as bad as it is for many others. I have gone for 2 years without one before. They just began again about 8 months ago. I guess they started in my late 20's. I do suffer from seasonal allergies and there is definitely a correlation. I find it interesting that it is more common in males. Possibly a hormone connection? I have occasionally been awakened with one, but usually they occur in the morning and afternoons.  I usually treat them with Ibuprofen and decongestants. These medicines seem to reduce the frequency and severity, but do not prevent the attacks.  I also use a massager on my face and temples when I'm at home and that helps a lot! Moderate alcohol consumption (ie: one glass of wine) does not seem to worsen my symptoms, but more than that does. I am interested in trying oxygen therapy. Luckily, I have access to oxygen in my work - so I'm going to give that a try and see how it works! Thanks for having a place where I can share my woes. And I hope that everyone out there gets relief!!
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Superpain on Jul 1st, 2004, 7:48pm
Welcome...

Ibuprofen and decongestants? [smiley=huh.gif]

What's that do?
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Superpain on Jul 1st, 2004, 7:50pm
Could you explain in detail the pain and severity of your headache and where it's located? How long d they last, how many per day, and how long are the cycles?
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jul 1st, 2004, 8:28pm
I'm sorry you're in pain, but I'd be interested too.  

I can assure you, clusters aren't made tolerable by aspirin, tylenol, ibuprofen, decongestants, antihistamines, codiene, vicodin, percodan, etc., etc. (though on occasion a megadose of Demeral might help).

Please use caution in trying to diagnose and treat yourself.  You could do more harm than good.  See a CHA specialist.  As a health professional, you probably have some inside knowledge on who would be good.

Keep us informed - best wishes,

Kris
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Samantha_Smith on Jul 1st, 2004, 8:45pm
I'm glad that you found this site.  I'll echo what was said before and suggest that you contact a neurologist or at the very least see your PCP.  It is possible that your h/a's do come in the mornings and afternoons but for most people with CH they come right after they fall asleep or in the middle of the night. For the majority of CH sufferers decongestants and other OTC's like Tylenol, Advil are ineffective.  I'm sure if you went to a neuro they'd be able to better identify the problem you are have and be able to offer some advice. Good luck. I really hope everything works out. Sam
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 1st, 2004, 9:29pm
In a word.

Migraine.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by kissmyglass on Jul 1st, 2004, 11:19pm
Irritating??  LOL.... Damn these kip 10s are irritating....
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Superpain on Jul 2nd, 2004, 3:28am
To say the least. ;;D
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 2nd, 2004, 6:23am
I had a KIP 9  once that was  so annoying that I left work early and went and took a nap.

Will someone please put up a Migraine link to help this girl.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Bob_Johnson on Jul 2nd, 2004, 7:35am
Get the second title: best of the three for someone in medicine.
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HANDBOOK OF HEADACHE MANAGEMENT, 2nd ed., Au. Joel Saper, MD, 1999, Lippincott Williams & Wilkins. A highly condensed volume for doctors but good for "advanced" clusterheads who have a grasp of medical terminology and medications. Covers all types of headache with the section on cluster being brief. Sections on general considerations in treatment and on medications are important.

MANAGEMENT OF HEADACHE AND HEADACHE MEDICATIONS, 2nd ed. Lawrence D. Robbins, M.D.; pub. by Springer. $49 at Amazon.Com. This volume is better organized and easier to read for nonprofessionals compared to Saper's book. It covers all types of headache and is primarily focused on medications. While the two chapters on CH total 42-pages, the actual relevant material is longer because of multiple references to material in chapters on migraine, reflecting the overlap in drugs used to treat. I'd suggest reading the chapters on migraine for three reasons: he makes references to CH & medications which are not in the index; there are "clinical pearls" about how to approach the treatment of headache; and, you gain better perspective on the nature of headache, in general, and the complexities of treatment (which need to be considered when we create expectations about what is possible). Finally, women will appreciate & benefit from his running information on hormones/menstrual cycles as they affect headache. Chapter on headache following head trauma, also. Obviously, I'm impressed with Robbins' work (even if the book needs the touch of a good editor!) (Somewhat longer review/content statement at 3/22/00, "Good book....")

HEADACHE HELP, Revised edition, 2000; Lawrence Robbins, M.D., Houghton Mifflin, $15. Written for a nonprofessional audience, it contains almost all the material in the preceding volume but it's much easier reading. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by mustang on Jul 2nd, 2004, 7:59am
This one sounds like one of my early doctors" take two
asprin and lay down in a dark room till the pain goes away". yea right
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by pubgirl on Jul 2nd, 2004, 4:22pm
Just to echo what the others have said. You need to see a specialist as from what little you have put down here, it sounds nothing like CH.

I get migraine as well, and it can be incredibly painful, can come in groups or 'clusters' and does occur episodically, so I am not saying you are not suffering. Also I use oxygen therapy for CH and migraine now, so it probably won't do any harm to try it, but you really need a proper diagnosis first.

BUT

CH is known as the "suicide headache" not the "irritating headache", for very good reason.

Wendy
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by MaxPayne on Jul 4th, 2004, 9:07pm
It must be late and my contacts are out, I really had to look twice, thought it said Girlsshavedtoo he he, then again maybe it's the 3 beers I had after the Imitrex kicked in U never know- Cheers and good nite/morning
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Jul 4th, 2004, 10:30pm

on 07/04/04 at 21:07:24, MaxPayne wrote:
It must be late and my contacts are out, I really had to look twice, thought it said Girlsshavedtoo he he, then again maybe it's the 3 beers I had after the Imitrex kicked in U never know- Cheers and good nite/morning


My fiance' and I were just cracking up about that! Thought it was :

"Girl shaves choo"

[smiley=crackup.gif] LMAOL

Best,
Eric
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 4th, 2004, 11:38pm
Girl shaves choo.

ROFLMMFAO.  Film at eleven!
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Jul 5th, 2004, 2:10pm
;) [smiley=girlflash.gif]
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by girlshavechtoo on Jul 6th, 2004, 8:12pm
And you call this a support group? Jeez - I just wanted to commisserate w/ others but guess you don't allow that unless I have a definitive diagnosis from a physician. By the way - where did you all get your medical degrees from??? Just so you know - I have spoken to my PCP about these ipsilateral headachces that I get every 3-4 months for a month or two that last about 15-30 minutes and  make my eye water and all I get is "sounds like a bad headache." Why Ibuprofen and decongestants work...I  don't know the exact reason - but why not? And yes, I do know the difference between what I suffer from and a migraine. Oh well, so much for this site.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 6th, 2004, 8:19pm

Quote:
By the way - where did you all get your medical degrees from???



Quote:
I am a medical professional


And you?


Quote:
and all I get is "sounds like a bad headache."


Well duhhhh?
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Kris_in_SJ on Jul 6th, 2004, 8:38pm
Shame on you all - you chased her away!  You also killed a fascinating thread.  There's nothing I like better than hearing "health professionals" talk about their successful self-diagnosis.

*smile*    

Kris
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Ueli on Jul 6th, 2004, 9:26pm

Quote:
By the way - where did you all get your medical degrees from???
One has not to be a  full-fledged biologist to know the difference between a cat and a dog.


Quote:
I have spoken to my PCP about these ipsilateral headachces that I get...
There is no such thing as an 'ipsilateral headachce'. Since "ipsilateral" means on the same side as ..., your headaches can not be ipsilateral on their own, you must say to what they are ipsilateral. A medical professional should know that.


Quote:
Why Ibuprofen and decongestants work...I  don't know the exact reason - but why not?
I can tell you why they work for you, you are lucky you've got no clusterheadaches. Every clusterhead tried once upon a time ibuprofen and other OTC stuff and knows it doesn't put a dent to CH.


Quote:
And you call this a support group? Jeez -
In a good support group like this one you get several answers within a couple of hours, welcoming you and asking you on details of your 'irritating' headaches. But you choose not to replay and come back only 5 days later to complain, to play the slighted victim.

I hear that migraines can be pretty bad and can hurt like the forecourt of hell. If your other headaches deserve the attribute 'irritating' they cannot be clusters; CH hurt like hell itself.

Don't let the door hit your sorry ass.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 6th, 2004, 9:33pm
Now this is just great.

Now someone else is going to the Munchausen support web site and bad mouth us because we didn't let her have CH.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Jul 6th, 2004, 9:49pm

Quote:
And you call this a support group?


It saved my life!!! [smiley=bow.gif]

Whether ya have CH (hopefully not) or migraines or are just looking for advice on SHAVING it has been a damn good place to be this past month!!

Take it light "Girl Shaves Choo"

Seriously lighten up, for this place really goes beyond support and at times all will need thick skins because when going deep in cycle and getting hit hard "we" may not always be the nicest  or compassionate to some.

Just an observation.

Now go shave  ;;D kidding

E
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Jul 6th, 2004, 9:54pm

Quote:
Whether ya have CH (hopefully not) or migraines or are just looking for advice on SHAVING it has been a damn good place to be this past month!!


Fuck that. Read the front door of the site. This place is for CH sufferers and supporters. Period.

Although a little shaved choo is OK now and then.  8)
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Charlie on Jul 6th, 2004, 11:49pm

Quote:
And you call this a support group?


Yes. I learned 99% more than I knew about this horror from these boards and sites.

Hitting a clusterhead attack with over the counter drugs is like trying to knock out an elephant with a peanut.

Tell us; do these headaches wake you out of a sound sleep and can you sit still during these attacks.

Hope you have some success with your headaches.

Charlie
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 6th, 2004, 12:39am
I figured that it was time for this to be read again!!!
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by BobG on Aug 6th, 2004, 5:51am

on 08/06/04 at 00:39:53, E-Double wrote:
I figured that it was time for this to be read again!!!


Thanks for bringing it back. I needed the chuckles.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

And, for what it's worth, I prefer my choo to be slightly fuzzy, not shaved.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 6th, 2004, 7:26am

on 08/06/04 at 05:51:42, BobG wrote:
Thanks for bringing it back. I needed the chuckles.  [smiley=laugh.gif]

And, for what it's worth, I prefer my choo to be slightly fuzzy, not shaved.


to be honest a lot of the "bashing" gets real tired and it bothers me to see this happen especially to a  newbie but this one was great!!!!!!!!
http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_14_1.gif
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by BobG on Aug 6th, 2004, 9:22am
Hey E-Double,
The smiley is cool. Is that your Choo bush?
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Aug 6th, 2004, 10:33am

Quote:
I just wanted to commisserate w/ others


Please provide documented proof of age and medical history.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 6th, 2004, 11:11am

on 08/06/04 at 09:22:12, BobG wrote:
Hey E-Double,
The smiley is cool. Is that your Choo bush?


Cookoo ca choo..... Like a forest.......

http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/1/1_4_99.gif
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by IndianaJohn on Aug 6th, 2004, 9:19pm
Someone needs to be doused with a can of WhupAss!
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 7th, 2004, 12:39am

on 08/06/04 at 21:19:08, IndianaJohn wrote:
Someone needs to be doused with a can of WhupAss!



??????????????????
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by IronHorse on Aug 7th, 2004, 4:07pm

  Tweedy Bird:  "I tot I taw a Choo cat"
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by thebbz on Aug 8th, 2004, 12:28am
LOL,LOL,LOLagain and again. See a doctor! ;;D :D
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by farmboy on Aug 9th, 2004, 3:28pm
and she was a health care professional.................
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Aug 9th, 2004, 5:25pm

Quote:
and she was a health care professional.................


My guess is a self appointed "patient advocate".
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by thomas on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:46am
I just diagnosed myself with "Erectus Humongus".  Any one know the cure for this?  ::)
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by farmboy on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:18am
No cure but you do need to watch out so you don't contract small cox
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by Woobie on Aug 10th, 2004, 9:21am

on 08/10/04 at 08:46:32, thomas wrote:
I just diagnosed myself with "Erectus Humongus".  Any one know the cure for this?  ::)



LMAO Thomas -

You need some "fuckitol"
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by BobG on Aug 10th, 2004, 11:23am

on 08/10/04 at 08:46:32, thomas wrote:
I just diagnosed myself with "Erectus Humongus".  Any one know the cure for this?  ::)


A cure for erectus............old age, works every time.

Don't have a cure for humongus..........never had that problem come up.

;)
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 12:59pm

Quote:
..........never had that problem come up.


Or go down.  8)
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by ex_pat_asia on Aug 10th, 2004, 1:42pm
I wonder what part of Arkansas you all are from, and are y'all related? Sounds like. Every board has em.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by thomas on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:17pm

on 08/10/04 at 13:42:47, ex_pat_asia wrote:
I wonder what part of Arkansas you all are from, and are y'all related? Sounds like. Every board has em.

Oh sure, now that's lovely, let's degrade people from the south.  One of my absolute favorite people in the world is from Arkansas, and you'd better hope she doesn't see that.  I guess one of your symptoms is the virtual lack of a sense of humor.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by pubgirl on Aug 10th, 2004, 2:46pm
Thomas

Is your huge tool draining blood from your brain again?


Now there's a thought for a survey! Do all male cluster sufferers have huge penises and the amount of blood needed to make them erect creates a problem in the blood supply in the brain?

When was the next convention again? I can bring the tape measure! ;;D

Wendy
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by thomas on Aug 10th, 2004, 3:07pm
LMMFAO, Wendy, Jesus......... OMG , I can't stop laughing.  [smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by don on Aug 10th, 2004, 4:01pm

Quote:
Do all male cluster sufferers have huge penises and the amount of blood needed to make them erect creates a problem in the blood supply in the brain?


Well.

I would like to think so.
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by pubgirl on Aug 10th, 2004, 4:03pm
Me wants pictures!

W
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:46pm

on 08/10/04 at 13:42:47, ex_pat_asia wrote:
I wonder what part of Arkansas you all are from, and are y'all related? Sounds like. Every board has em.


http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/3/3_2_118v.gif or http://smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/26/26_6_5.gif

again... does it matter???? pain is pain!! wheteher you say "yee haw" or "yo! Yo!" while you're banging your head ;)

E
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by E-Double on Aug 10th, 2004, 8:49pm
So........
Wasn't this the girl shaves choo thread? now it seems like if CH guy shaves cock it will be longer?????? [smiley=huh.gif]

LMAO

Kinda feel bad about possibly contributing to running off of a newbie girl ch'er with a shaved choo! is that wrong of me??? ;)

LOL

Double
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by IronHorse on Aug 13th, 2004, 4:54am

on 08/10/04 at 08:46:32, thomas wrote:
I just diagnosed myself with "Erectus Humongus".  Any one know the cure for this?  ::)


Thomas,   Extensive medical research indicates:
"whatever you are taking, cut the dosage in half!"

lMFAO
Title: Re: newly self-diagnosed
Post by ExPat_jac on Aug 19th, 2004, 6:19am

on 08/10/04 at 14:17:50, thomas wrote:
Oh sure, now that's lovely, let's degrade people from the south.  One of my absolute favorite people in the world is from Arkansas, .



gezzz thomas.....

Arkansas?  Southern?

shit boy...now where *I'm* from that's dang near Yankee country....

No place that ever gets snow is "southern" to this boy!!!!

Now..on a more serious note...

I was at work, banging the hell out of my desk with my 2:00pm visit and went to the boards to maybe get a distraction and ran into this thread...

Now, I'm banging my head aginst the table...crying...and laughting all at the same time....

Damn the people at my office think I am REALLY strange!

Oh god...thanks for posting this thread...you have no idea how much I needed the laugh....

While I feel sorry for her....nothing that I'd call an "irritating" would ever cause me to rant and rave and beat my head aginst as many walls as these things have all my life.....

hahaha now....let me leave y'all and go finds me some Ibuprofen and decongestants....my head is just plumb irratated right now!

Hell..can't hurt!


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