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(Message started by: ScottEinDC on Dec 5th, 2005, 8:57pm)

Title: Alcohol triggers
Post by ScottEinDC on Dec 5th, 2005, 8:57pm
Hello all,

Just wondering what people's experiences are with alcohol as a trigger?  I'm wondering cause I've never been able to pin this beast.  

Sometimes I have a glass of red wine and I get a hit, sometimes not.  

Sometimes it's a beer with a hit, sometimes not.

I don't get it.  Can't it be one way or the other!>!>!>!>!





Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by unsolved1 on Dec 5th, 2005, 9:43pm
I'm sure you will find that most say that alcohol is a trigger. It is for me anyways!

UNsolved

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by mcf69 on Dec 5th, 2005, 10:15pm
When I'm in cycle I can't touch a bit of alcohol, I even think about it and I'm banging my head off the wall.  It kind of sucks, right now I'm in cycle and have a Christmas party this weekend, all the free booze you can drink, and I can't touch a drop, oh well  :(

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by cazman on Dec 5th, 2005, 11:08pm
most of the cycles ive had over the past 8 years can be accredited to a nice cold beer its the fast way to start a cycle for me and from what ive read most will say the same thing its best to not drink if your a ch head.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by zwibbs/Scott on Dec 6th, 2005, 1:49am
In my cycles over the past twenty-eight years Alcohol was never a major problem. In this present cycle it has proven to be deadly. Twice I made the mistake of making myself a Rum/Coke and BAM !!! About fifteen minutes after sipping the drink I was in agony. So I have basically switched to water, or something like juice watered down. I miss it, but it will have to do.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by E-Double on Dec 6th, 2005, 8:00am
VERY common.

It doesn't trigger attacks for me though.
I used to stay away out of fear then I realized it wasn't effecting my CH so I imbibed.
I don't get shanty yet once in a while I knock back a few with no ill effects

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by sandie99 on Dec 6th, 2005, 8:12am
I've been episodic, then chronic. I've pretty much given up drinking all together, because it always triggers ch. Or, at least, mild symptoms. Ch was been in remission since April and I've had sip of champagne once and sip of wine once after that and on both occasions ch begin to react soon after.

Sanna

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by ScottEinDC on Dec 6th, 2005, 8:19am
Thanks for the all the responses.  I think I'll have to watch this a bit more.  

Sunday, I was PF and at brunch had a few mimosas and nothing!  Last night, a beer with dinner, bam.  Last week a glass of red wine with dinner, bam!

And in previous cycles, I don't remember alcohol having any influence on the hits.  And since I started with these when I was 15, alcohol certainly wasn't an influence then either.

Changing bodies, changing brains I guess...next cycle will be tortilla chips causing the hits!!!   ;;D

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by Beastfodder on Dec 6th, 2005, 11:32am
Alcohol has never been a trigger for me (yet).

Get the wake-you-up headaches at night and morning ones mostly so unless I'm sneaking the odd drink when I'm asleep it's safe to say so.

As for triggers the one thing I did notice was heat this year.  One of the things that helps me deal with the pain actually causes it - that's bizarre.

Had a long hot sauna - got hit the moment I came out. Same with a hot bath.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by bnfreeman on Dec 7th, 2005, 2:44pm
I love margaritas, if they have just tequila and nothing else I can drink one. But say if they add Cointreau or Grand Marnair (?) then no way Jose. Bear does sometimes and sometimes it doesn't. Red wine is ALWAYS a no no. I am chronic. I don't know why it is okay sometimes and sometimes not.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by burnt-toast on Dec 8th, 2005, 8:51am
100% trigger of monsterous attacks.  When I've been terribly stupid and had a beer or two the result is always long hours of (possibly beyond) Kip10 pain - I no longer touch the stuff.

Tom    

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by Beastfodder on Dec 8th, 2005, 9:07am
Keep seeing cold beer mentioned as a trigger.

I'm sorry but if it's Budweisser you're drinking what's the problem - everyone knows it has more in common with water than beer.

::)

Guinness is good for you

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by seasonalboomer on Dec 8th, 2005, 9:13am
when in cycle, yes automatic trigger.

when not in cycle can drink as much as I please.

scott

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by ScottEinDC on Dec 8th, 2005, 9:23am

on 12/08/05 at 09:07:51, Beastfodder wrote:
Keep seeing cold beer mentioned as a trigger.

I'm sorry but if it's Budweisser you're drinking what's the problem - everyone knows it has more in common with water than beer.

::)

Guinness is good for you


Ain't that right!  Sadly it's just not as good here as there!   ::)

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by MAugust on Dec 8th, 2005, 11:34am
Alcohol is a failproof trigger for me when I'm in cycle.  It also seems to make the attacks more severe and harder to abort.  Otherwise, I am a daily beer consumer without any CH trouble.

I just had my first pain free night since Nov. 13.  If I have another one, I may just have to crack one open!!!  I haven't had one since Thanksgiving Day.

Guinness is indeed good for you......and yummy!

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Dec 8th, 2005, 11:56am
Out of cycle, alcohol has no effect except the intended effect.

In cycle, BAM!!!!!! Every time.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by o2 on Dec 9th, 2005, 2:00am
Hey there, I’m new to this site [hello!] ...but agree...alcohol is a no-go area for me. Mine just started this week as a nice surprise for xmas so no taking part in the traditional christmas piss-ups for me, boo!  :( Although having said that, i guess i don't know if that is the case this cycle but as much as i love a glass of wine, i am not prepared to take the risk...

peppi

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by MJ on Dec 9th, 2005, 2:13am

Alcohol is my greatest fear by far.
Even the smell of beer or wine sets me off.

Out of cycle no issues.


Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by BarbaraD on Dec 9th, 2005, 6:01am
For years beer was a trigger, then "nothing". I can now drink a beer with no ill effects (I'm chronic). Other alcohol doesn't bother me. For years I didn't drink anything, but have never noticed any effects at all from alcohol except beer and I just stayed away from it until last year and then tried one and nothing..... Go figure.

Some say they can drink white wine, but not red wine. I think it's up to the individual. If it bothers you stay away from it. If it doesn't enjoy.....

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by TonyG1 on Dec 11th, 2005, 12:16pm

on 12/08/05 at 09:07:51, Beastfodder wrote:
Keep seeing cold beer mentioned as a trigger.

I'm sorry but if it's Budweisser you're drinking what's the problem - everyone knows it has more in common with water than beer.

::)

Guinness is good for you


LOL .. after living five years in Germany and then coming back to the USA ... I have to agree on the water analogy !!! :)

When I'm not in cycle, alcohol is not a problem and I've never had it trigger a "cycle"

When in cycle, forget it...I avoid it all together... some of the worst CHs I've ever had have been the result of alcohol trigger.  

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by E-Double on Dec 11th, 2005, 12:27pm

on 12/08/05 at 09:07:51, Beastfodder wrote:
Guinness is good for you



The breakfast of champs!! That and shots of Jamesons mmm good!

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by mynm156 on Dec 11th, 2005, 12:33pm
I have done extensive research in the hopes of furthering information available to all cluster heads and  have determined that more research is needed.  [smiley=me&mb.gif]

No  I have to stay away from my beloved BEER and pretty much all dark liquors.  So I have alot of Bloody Mary's!  Gin and 7's clear tequila but not clear rum.  

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by CHater on Dec 11th, 2005, 2:03pm
Any alcohol drink triggers attack within 30 minutes. !!! Terrible.

Proud to tell you... I am PF for 5 days now after a cycle of almost 14 weeks.

Had allready quite some "beer-wine" parties since it ended.  It is really the best indicator for me that the cycle is over. (who knows for how long ???).

I did had Headache 1 morning, BUT IT WAS A NICE HANGOVER ... hahha. I never enjoyed Hangovers untill I got diagnosed CH some 15 years ago.

Sorry guys, I feel ok now, that's why I sound so optimistic.  This doesn't mean I am not still feeling along with you all, I know what your suffering from.

I keep reading your posts, but I guess I don't have much (usefull) input for you untill my next cycle.

Feel free to mail me anytime you need support fcourse.




Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by r_headache on Dec 11th, 2005, 2:39pm
that's funny CHater....now after many years of CH a simple hangover headache is a joke to me while my buds are all complaining "oh my head hurts"...I tell them to shove a vingar soaked fork thru their eye and whirl it around and then they will know what pain is.

for me when im in cycle (NOW) beer isn't a problem...neither is the hard stuff....but if I have a sip of wine you better reserve me a room at the ER.  so, wine is way off my list.

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by Svenn on Dec 11th, 2005, 2:45pm
The fumes from oilbased paint is trigger NR1 for me


Svenn

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by raider_educator on Dec 14th, 2005, 8:40pm
Leinie's Honeywiess brings the beast after one sip!  

Title: Re: Alcohol triggers
Post by jminmilwaukee on Dec 18th, 2005, 5:11am
If you are a clusterhead, and you are in cycle... Booze will set you off withjout a doubt.

If you are a clusterbuster or former clusterhead, booze is fine (drink up).

20 years experience, former clustehead here. ;)

Jeff



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