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(Message started by: munich on Sep 14^th, 2005, 12:42pm)

Title: Cluster Board Germany
Post by munich on Sep 14^th, 2005, 12:42pm

Hello to all german speaking cluster sufferers.

There is a new clusterheadache Message Board online.
This Board ist deticated for treating Cluster headaches with
traditional and alternative methods.
[b][/b]http://www.csg-forum.de/

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ghost62 on Sep 14^th, 2005, 1:05pm

would like that but i dont speak German. Sorry

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by marty on Sep 14^th, 2005, 6:42pm

Hi

It looks like a very nice web site.

Best wishes from Texas

Marty

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Ueli on Sep 14^th, 2005, 11:57pm

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v396/Ueli/TrollAlert.gif

Everybody reading German be warned to visit the web site linked above only if she/he is interested in an example how a CH-support group should not be run.

That message board is run by a bunch of narrow-minded, intolerant, egomaniac Philistines. You cannot post directly on this MB, only after passing the moderators censorship your text will be allowed.
Hey, they once deleted a post of our King Jonny, that simply said "Greetings from across the pond", on the grounds that the moderator doesn't understand English.

I feel sorry for those clusterheads that end up on that site (and it happens to quite a few, since the site operators are experts in spamming the search engines). On specific question a newbie gets only blah-blah-blah responses, hardly an answer that helps. On the other hand, if somebody posts a cure for CH, in the form of a diet, all and sundry starts crunching salads and other specific veggies, in the hope to be cured of CH in a few days. Nobody asks how this is supposed to work. Oh well, rational thinking and reasoning isn't one of their strong points. I think CSG stands for Crappy Support Group.

One of their know-it-all's is a soap boiler. He claims he's got a PhD in Chemistry, but he must have missed all the lessons about scientific thinking. For him 200 success stories from ClusterBusters are 200 subterfuges of junkies and druggies to vindicate their addiction. Thereby he conveniently sweeps under the carpet the fact that only infrequently small sub-hallucinogenic doses are needed and that among the successful users are many who's previous "drug" experience was not more than a beer or two. When confronted directly with these fact he becomes aggressive, scurrilous and abusive and threatens to denounce the opposition at the police, as junkies and drug dealers. Needles to say, any post hinting at this alternative treatment doesn't pass the censor.

If you know a clusterhead that is more at ease with German than English, warn him about this CSG site and send him instead to the first and only useful German language site for clusterheads:

Lots of usefull information at the site of VCH-OUCH e.V.

http://www.clusterkopfschmerzen.de/

and the message board where you get useful answers:

http://f15.parsimony.net/forum24836/index.htm

PFNADs, Ueli [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Pinkfloyd on Sep 15^th, 2005, 12:56am

Thanks Ueli,

1. A good reason to never add a web-based message board to Clusterbusters....it seems all that do, go bald. :-/

1.1 Might still be a good place to meet cute german chicks.

1.2 Learned a lot about cheese.

1.2.1 proof that discussions about even the most painful topics can be amusing when read through bablefish translations.

1.2.2 I quote.... ;;D
"But we should give not too much attention to this humans... to separate us for really important things to care. The side and the forum are now already in the search machines partly on the first sides and the visitor counter (also the secretly running along statistics) give us quite. Alone this morning to 11 o'clock over 40 visitors!"

1.2.3 And... [smiley=huh.gif]

"The other thing is that we not also introduce here these things, which were born from the emergency of a hundsmiserablen supply. Because we have better things.
We do not need Kudzu. We need: Verapamil& Triptane are from the off label Use. We need better physician training, we need shorter diagnostic times, we need the suffer-fair evaluation of CK, we need better support of our work, we need more research. [smiley=huh.gif]

We do not need Kudzu. [smiley=huh.gif]

2. I guess the poor Kudzu gets no respect even in Germany. :-[

3. Hmmm....no jonny? No shrooms? Who ever would have thought the two of us would be sitting on the outside looking in together.

3.1 Hey Jonny....buy me a beer? ;;D

4. Thanks munich for your questions on the site.

Bobw

Title: Re: Cluster Boards Germany
Post by vig on Sep 15^th, 2005, 6:01am

on 09/15/05 at 02:17:27, cluster wrote:

I don't think it's a good idea to discuss the details here.
warum?
(why?)
;;D

so...
where DO they stand on the alternatives?

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by aceserve on Sep 15^th, 2005, 12:04pm

Fraulein! Eine helle bitte! (When I'm not in CH mode).

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by munich on Sep 15^th, 2005, 1:00pm

Hi

The above linked messege board is new!!!
It has nothing to do with the boards mentioned by ueli!
This board was made especially for alternative treating Methods. If you look to the front page you will see that kudzu ist one of the main topiks.
http://www.clusterkopfschmerzen.info/alternative_therapien.htm
The answers written from pinkfloyd was a answer we got trying to mention kudzu on http://www.forumromanum.de/member/forum/forum.php?action=std_show&entryid=1092299161&mainid=1092281094&threadid=2&USER=user_42304
(that is the offical german cluster board, everything away from traditional treatment will be delated imidiantly)

we are with you on Kudzu aswell as the clusterbuster method that is why this new board was made for german speaking sufferers that are inerested in alternative methods.

PF wishes to all

sorry for the spelling :-[

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by munich on Sep 15^th, 2005, 1:10pm

english speaking clusterheads are of course welcome aswell!
If you need help registering just ask me.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by rextangle on Sep 15^th, 2005, 9:22pm

My German is pretty fuckin' rusty but I got the"SINUS BUSTER"part of it!
LMAO

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by nani on Sep 15^th, 2005, 9:27pm

munich is not a troll.
~nani

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by rextangle on Sep 15^th, 2005, 9:40pm

I don't think he is either... but I laughed when I realize that they have the same trolls as we do.... The sinus buster thing was too funny! :)

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by nani on Sep 15^th, 2005, 9:43pm

Those muthas are everywhere... >:(

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Ueli on Sep 16^th, 2005, 11:07pm

I'm not keen on following all the shit that is going on in German cluster communities. I can use my time for better purposes. Therefore, I assumed this csg forum linked to by munich was from the original csg group, to which all my comments in my previous post apply (and I stick to that). In the mean time I made myself more savvy on the situation:

The original csg group once had a member named Jens Heise, living in Marl. This Heise is so much more twisted than the other csg people that he was thrown out of the group.

So Jens Heise is now operating his own virtual CH support group, with himself and 2 or 3 other people, including Stefan from Munich (posting here as munich). Conveniently, he stole the csg abbreviation from his former buddies (and that lead to my confusion). Heise also operates a few other sites "related" to CH and has set up a webring, listing all his, and only his, CH sites. Furthermore, is also is webmaster if of absolutely dead websites and message boards on MS, since the MS-people don't want to deal with this moron.

on 09/15/05 at 13:00:09, munich wrote:

... This board was made especially for alternative treating Methods. If you look to the front page you will see that kudzu ist one of the main topiks.

What they understand by 'alternative' treatment you can see by looking at the header of www.csg-forum.de, here some its lines:
<title>Clusterkopfschmerz-Selbsthilfegruppe (CSG) | Startseite</title>
<META NAME="keywords" content="Cannabis,Hanf,Marihuana,Kiff,Kiffen,Bong,Joint,Weed,Coffeeshop,Holland,Deutschland,Niederlande,ZeroZero,Hash,Haschisch,Anbau,Pflege,Ernte,Indoor,Outdoor" />
<META NAME="description" content="CSG - Cannabis-Supporters-Group : Unabhängiges Forum - Online-Hilfe für Cannabisfreunde und deren Angehörige mit Forum und Chat, Berichten. " />

The (non)usefulness of weed for CH has been discussed here many times. We certainly don't need a link to a website that advocates cannabis as a treatment for CH.

Jens Heise is also notorious for insulting people and organisations. Once he defaced the OUCH logo in the most abominable way and put it on one of his sites. It needed the intervention of law enforcement to take it down again, but we got stuck with the legal expenses, as Jens Heise has filed an affidavit of means.

nani and rextangle think munich is not troll. They could be right. Someone trying to bring the idiotic shit of his mentor across the Atlantic, with that link to useless and misleading CH treatment (with the intent to draw some traffic to their almost dead sites), is worse than those recommending Ali Sultaneh or SinusBusters, and probably an insult to any honest troll.

BTW, the board of the (original) csg has nothing to do with anything "official". It is the playground of some separatist egocentrics, that disseminate such moronic notions as calling a "shadow" a "painless cluster attack", duh. The link to the first, and only worthwhile, German cluster sites are given in my first post.

So, there is only one thing left to say:

munich, get lost!

Ueli [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by munich on Sep 17^th, 2005, 8:08am

Hi Ueli

I have been a clusterheadache sufferer for the last 18 Years and the only thing that really has helped me was Kuzu.
Since there are people in Germany that do not speak Englisch or at least not good enouph to understand everything then why not post a thread on kudzu on a German Board?
The problem is all other German Boards( and i tried several times) did not post the thread on Kudzu or just laught at me.
I do not support a singel Person.
I support the opportunity to let other Clusterheads know that there are alternative possabilities.

But if you think that german people should not be informed on alternatives then you are not any better than the boards you posted.

Message boards are for helping each other and if some people dont listen then go for the ones that do.
Thats what i am trying to do. Inform those that want to listen and i am doing it in the place where they let me.

Munich

ps csg = Clusterheadache selfhelp group
no copywrite type csg into google you will be surprised

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by J.H. on Sep 17^th, 2005, 10:38am

on 09/16/05 at 23:07:17, Ueli wrote:

The original csg group once had a member named Jens Heise, living in Marl. This Heise is so much more twisted than the other csg people that he was thrown out of the group.

So Jens Heise is now operating his own virtual CH support group, with himself and 2 or 3 other people, including Stefan from Munich (posting here as munich). Conveniently, he stole the csg abbreviation from his former buddies (and that lead to my confusion). Heise also operates a few other sites "related" to CH and has set up a webring, listing all his, and only his, CH sites. Furthermore, is also is webmaster if of absolutely dead websites and message boards on MS, since the MS-people don't want to deal with this moron.

BTW, the board of the (original) csg has nothing to do with anything "official". It is the playground of some separatist egocentrics, that disseminate such moronic notions as calling a "shadow" a "painless cluster attack", duh. The link to the first, and only worthwhile, German cluster sites are given in my first post.

Hello Ueli,

what`s your problem?

First of all...I was not "thrown" out of the CSG-Group...i leave them in January 2004 after a hot discussion about their way to be a "worldleading group".

Then...i didn`t "steal" the csg abbreviation! This abbreviation is not a registered Trademark or copyrighted!
It stands for (C)lusterheadache (S)upport (G)roup.

The Headache-Webring just startet a few weeks ago...so there are only a few sites listed.

You say that ..."...few other sites "related" to CH and has set up a webring, listing all his, and only his, CH sites. Furthermore, is also is webmaster if of absolutely dead websites and message boards on MS, since the MS-people don't want to deal with this moron. "

There is only ONE site....www.clusterkopfschmerzen.info that is related to CH. I have no other message-boards or websites that was related to multiple sclerosis.

Many MS-People know me cause i`m a technical admin to a mailinglist with the topic "MS". There are only a handfull of people that we throw out of this mailing-list becaus they are Trolls and bullsh*t all other members. These are this people you told.

...and by the way...don`t call me a moron!

Many greetings from Germany

Jens

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Sep 17^th, 2005, 11:42am

on 09/17/05 at 10:38:08, J.H. wrote:

...and by the way...don`t call me a moron!

Ok moron, how about...Shut the fuck up Dick-head?

You keep rockin, Ueli [smiley=bigguns.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by J.H. on Sep 17^th, 2005, 12:16pm

on 09/17/05 at 11:42:49, Jonny wrote:

Ok moron, how about...Shut the fuck up Dick-head?

You keep rockin, Ueli [smiley=bigguns.gif]

very nice... like little kids on a playground... ;;D

any adult people here arround? Or only guys like Ueli & Jonny? :P

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Sep 17^th, 2005, 12:19pm

on 09/17/05 at 12:16:40, J.H. wrote:

any adult people here arround? Or only guys like Ueli & Jonny? :P

Moe, Larry and Curly are in the other room....Shall I get them? ;;D

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by J.H. on Sep 17^th, 2005, 12:50pm

on 09/17/05 at 11:42:49, Jonny wrote:

Ok moron, how about...Shut the fuck up Dick-head?

You keep rockin, Ueli [smiley=bigguns.gif]

Yes Jonny...you are right...i look like a "dick-head"....but did you know why?

It is very nice to loose all hair during a chemical therapy against cancer....

so switch on your brain before you talk...

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Sep 17^th, 2005, 12:55pm

on 09/17/05 at 12:50:31, J.H. wrote:

so switch on your brain before you talk...

My brain is always on Dick-head....and at this site where I am King my posts will not be deleted ;;D

Ueli is far from stupid, so I tend to believe what he has to say.

Try and delete this [smiley=finger.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Boards Germany
Post by ete on Sep 19^th, 2005, 4:01am

[quote author=cluster link=board=chspecific;num=1126719741;start=0#5 date=09/15/05 at 02:17:27]Cluster Boards Germany - as far as I know there are at least three German language cluster boards and there are at least three different support organizations.
/quote]

Friederich,
you´re absolutely wrong!
There are two boards and two organizations. Ueli has they exactly described.

The "new german board" has in reality nothing to do with clusterheadache and support. And there is yet NO new organization called CSG-Ruhrgebiet and I´m sure also not in future.

The owner of this board was blowing out of the original csg in january 2005, because his master had enough from this servile bum fodder. So this guy create a new unsuccessful masturbation circle like his other sites.

If you read what this slanderer claim about Ueli, you can see where you "learn" about cluster.

btw: nobody in germany knows you, nobody.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 19^th, 2005, 4:14am

on 09/17/05 at 12:19:07, Jonny wrote:

Moe, Larry and Curly are in the other room....Shall I get them? ;;D

Hi kickass bro,
you get another pit from the other room, older but vicious.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 19^th, 2005, 8:23am

on 09/19/05 at 06:26:52, cluster wrote:

2 + 1 = 3 ? - Isn't it ?

Friederich,

it´s 1+(1) and nothing more.

You agree with your statement slander and tall stories of this troll sites of the notoric criminal J.H. from Marl.

I think you will get lost together with munich

Our request is to help CH-sufferers in the contrast to those stillbirth (csg)-sites

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by J.H. on Sep 19^th, 2005, 10:52am

on 09/19/05 at 06:26:52, cluster wrote:

Anyway - who are you, ete ?

Regards and pain free times!
Friedrich

Hello Friedrich!

You dont know "Ete"?!...this old m*****f***** from Berlin?

There are many people who know him...many of them in a way that is not the best.

This old guy is a "typical" german...that means he better have lived between the years 1936 till 1945. But after 1990 he have the problem that its old "Boss" the "Stasi" was gone....so he find his new way in the internet spaming around and lockin`for little children... ;;D

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by vig on Sep 19^th, 2005, 2:05pm

well, isn't this a lovely exchange of ideas...
:-/

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by LeLimey on Sep 19^th, 2005, 3:12pm

Blimey oh reilly..
comes to something when the trolls are bringing their own trolls doesn't it? ::) oh and I do NOT mean Ete in that statement either!!

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Frank_W on Sep 19^th, 2005, 3:24pm

Gimme a beer or five!!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Sep 19^th, 2005, 3:46pm

I can vouche for ete, I have known him for nearly six years....Hes good peeps and also has CH.

The others are scumbags, believe nothing what they say and all the Ueli and ete say.....they know these punks first hand.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by LeLimey on Sep 19^th, 2005, 3:58pm

Thanks for the heads up Jonny, I sort of figured Ete was not with the others ::) which automatically makes him okay in comparison. And I trust Ueli not to steer us wrong either.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Margi on Sep 19^th, 2005, 4:15pm

Hi Ete, nice to see you posting here again. Thanks, Ueli for standing guard as always.

And, thanks to you too, Helen, for the email. ;)

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by LeLimey on Sep 19^th, 2005, 4:48pm

No probs Margi!! United we stand eh?! ;)

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Melissa on Sep 19^th, 2005, 4:49pm

Hi Ete!!! [smiley=wave.gif]

Been a long time!

:-*mel

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 20^th, 2005, 3:53am

Hi Margi, Helen and Mel,
thx for your welcome back.
hope I can stay more on the board than last years.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Pinkfloyd on Sep 20^th, 2005, 8:41am

So....what I'm hearing is....there really aren't any cute chicks on the csg site(s). :-/

As long as I have so many german folks here, what the heck ever happened to Nina. The girl that sang 99 luft balloons? ;;D

Bobw

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 20^th, 2005, 9:20am

on 09/20/05 at 08:41:28, Pinkfloyd wrote:

Hi Bobw,

1. better you forget this damned troll site(s)

2. Nena ist now 45, looking pretty good with a lot of children and started a succesful come back, but now with shaved armpits.

here´s her Website http://www.nena.de/

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Pinkfloyd on Sep 20^th, 2005, 11:29am

on 09/20/05 at 09:20:38, ete wrote:

started a succesful come back, but now with shaved armpits.

Thanks Ete,
That should help with record sales here in the US. ;;D

Bobw

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 20^th, 2005, 4:04pm

on 09/15/05 at 21:27:51, nani wrote:

munich is not a troll.
~nani

for sure he is, ~nani!

munic promote a troll site of a troll.
munic is moderator of a troll forum.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Sep 20^th, 2005, 6:13pm

If this is 45....I will take two of them ;;D

http://www.nena.de/images/papenburg-18062005/fahrt_zur_showr.jpg

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Goblin on Sep 21^st, 2005, 3:58pm

on 09/20/05 at 18:13:44, Jonny wrote:

If this is 45....I will take two of them ;;D

http://www.nena.de/images/papenburg-18062005/fahrt_zur_showr.jpg

Let me guess the 2 in the white shirt? ;;D

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Pinkfloyd on Sep 21^st, 2005, 6:42pm

on 09/20/05 at 18:13:44, Jonny wrote:

If this is 45....I will take two of them ;;D

The poor guy to the right of her said the same thing and look what happened...he lost two fingers. ;;D

Just wondering what they're doing with the stuff on the table. :-X

bobw

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by nani on Sep 21^st, 2005, 6:58pm

on 09/20/05 at 16:04:39, ete wrote:

for sure he is, ~nani!

I only know of my interaction with him, and I have no problems with him at all.

edited to add: did nena put two of her balloons in her shirt?

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by catlind on Sep 21^st, 2005, 7:00pm

on 09/15/05 at 12:04:07, aceserve wrote:

Fraulein! Eine helle bitte! (When I'm not in CH mode).

Pardon the spelling, I only know how to speak it not spell it hehe:

Haben si kristallweizen bitte?
(that was the only german I learned during my 3 weeks there hehe)

Cat

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by floridian on Sep 21^st, 2005, 8:39pm

Just don't confuse Nena with that other Baltic singer lady, Nina Hagen. I know someone who spent a lot of time downloading Nina Hagen on the mistaken assumption that she was the 99 Luftballoonz chick. Oh, well, live and learn.

http://www.angel.dk/hagen/Media/HagenStoreJPEGs/HagenA_15.JPG
http://www.heine-foto.de/Heine%26Heine%20Web.data/Komponenten/Netzbilder/Prominentenportraits/Nina_Hagen_.jpg

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by mischki on Sep 21^st, 2005, 9:09pm

Ich glotz TV![smiley=headbanger.gif]

I loved her version of "My Way!"

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 23^rd, 2005, 4:54am

on 09/19/05 at 15:46:48, Jonny wrote:

thx bro,

be sure what these poop snoopers have to say, that they can cough.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by soccer on Sep 25^th, 2005, 12:03pm

You have put this nonsense already at other place in the net and have got a lot of trouble

You´re a kind of fool ;;D

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by LeLimey on Sep 25^th, 2005, 1:06pm

Who are you saying is the fool soccer??

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by soccer on Sep 25^th, 2005, 1:16pm

Sorry, I mean this posting:

----------

J.H.
New Board Newbie

Posts: 4
Re: Cluster Board Germany
« Reply #24 on: Sep 19th, 2005, 10:52am » Quote Modify

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on Sep 19th, 2005, 6:26am, cluster wrote:
Anyway - who are you, ete ?

Regards and pain free times!
Friedrich

Hello Friedrich!

You dont know "Ete"?!...this old m*****f***** from Berlin?

There are many people who know him...many of them in a way that is not the best.

This old guy is a "typical" german...that means he better have lived between the years 1936 till 1945. But after 1990 he have the problem that its old "Boss" the "Stasi" was gone....so he find his new way in the internet spaming around and lockin`for little children...

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 25^th, 2005, 2:05pm

on 09/25/05 at 13:16:37, soccer wrote:

Sorry, I mean this posting:

----------

J.H.
New Board Newbie

Posts: 4
Re: Cluster Board Germany
« Reply #24 on: Sep 19th, 2005, 10:52am » Quote Modify

Hi,
I wonder, that you say this scumbag J.H. from Marl is a fool.

The correct spelling for this skunk is liar and slanderer.

ete

P.S. that was all in all enough attention for this troll and his lackey´s.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Sep 26^th, 2005, 12:29am

on 09/21/05 at 19:00:09, catlind wrote:

Pardon the spelling, I only know how to speak it not spell it hehe:

Haben si kristallweizen bitte?
(that was the only german I learned during my 3 weeks there hehe)

Hi Cat,
you´ve trained the order for the girls.

Men order two blondes, one of that a beer.

ete

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by J.H. on Oct 5^th, 2005, 1:03pm

http://www.comi-tees.com/IF%20not a very nice personS%20COUL%20FLY.jpg

with best greetings to Ete & Jonny!

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Oct 5^th, 2005, 1:46pm

hey bum fodder,
you´re much more stupid as I thought.
and be sure butthead, everybody called you MORON for ever.

a last word you turd.

everybody knows you are a liar and backbiter, it´s evident!!!

so nobody use your moronic forum-toilets, groups, mail-lists and other non-information-sites!!!

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Oct 5^th, 2005, 2:04pm

on 10/05/05 at 13:03:45, J.H. wrote:

with best greetings to Ete & Jonny!

LMMFAO ;;D

Dumb bastard cant even post a link that works....LMAO!!

MORON!! [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Sean_C on Oct 6^th, 2005, 6:30pm

You tell'm maa ;;D

Sean.....................

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by nani on Oct 6^th, 2005, 6:34pm

Frankly, I think this rather unpleasant exchange makes all of you look bad. :-/
JMHO, nani

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by mischki on Oct 7^th, 2005, 8:17am

Um Gottes Willen - Hoer doch auf...! (Sorry - no umlauts on my keyboard)

If Jonny trusts Ueli - I do too.

I looked at that "new board," and although I didn't dig very deep, I didn't see anything very helpful.

If you want help, this is the place to be!

Wissen ist Macht.
Wir wissen Nichts.
Macht Nichts!

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by zanychef on Oct 17^th, 2005, 8:14pm

wasnt moaning about it at all just frustrated at the moment
feel free to i'm or ping support given and taken anytime and you can update me on the ch news over there because who knows i may visit again soon!
and my german is getting realllll rusty be a shame to lose it [smiley=frown.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by PPRanch on Oct 20^th, 2005, 6:13am

What on earth are you people doing / talking about???????? Stock in the value and legitimacy of this board has just declined significantly!!! I'm in the midst of one of my worst cycles in memory and was hoping for some updated insights..........WWIII was NOT on my agenda!

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by AussieBrian on Oct 20^th, 2005, 6:41am

Ease up, PPRanch. This is better than the Funnies board!

Haven't enjoyed meself so much since granny hung herself in Woolworths. (It was from the ceiling fan and she was there three days before anyone realised it wasn't just another display.)

Smiles are cheaper than PayTV, and infectious in the nicest way.

Always looking on the bright side,

Brian Down Under.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by zanychef on Oct 20^th, 2005, 10:12am

chill guys ;;D

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by cluster on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 1:03pm

Yes, this thread is "Top of the Pops", more than 2000 hits!

It's fun and it has got Nena in it!

Here is german message board number FOUR:

www.ck-wissen.de/forum/main.php

Best wishes and painfree times!

Friedrich

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by cluster on Oct 22^nd, 2005, 1:18pm

Here comes german language no. FIVE: (Switzerland)

http://www.ig-kopfschmerz.ch/forum/viewforum.php?f=33&sid=3a069e5f5c4fb282ce43f0524875dbbb

Best regards and painfree times !
Friedrich

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by cluster on Oct 23^rd, 2005, 1:11pm

I think we lost the link to the CSG somewhere in the thread:

http://www.forumromanum.de/member/forum/forum.php?action=std_tindex&USER=user_42304&threadid=2

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Mr. Happy on Oct 23^rd, 2005, 11:49pm

on 10/23/05 at 23:05:14, Ueli wrote:

You can trust me, I have the approval of the King [smiley=smokin.gif]

Cool beans, Ueli. Throw a bucket of cold water on the rest of those unrepentant sinners. Duct tape `em, if you have to.

No quarter for Sour Krauts.
RJ

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by munich on Oct 24^th, 2005, 6:16am

Hi Ueli

Why am i a troll? I only try to help!
Did i insult you?
Did i keep on posting on this thread insulting you?
You say close this thread so why dont you stop?
Why do you insist on posting on the OUCH Site ?
Why arent there any posts from you on the Kudzu threads?

I tried to post a thread on kudzu on the OUCH site but it was delated immediatly!
You dont like alternative treatment so just insult people that are interested?

A lot of questions maybe not for you to think about but perhaps others will do.

best regards Munich

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by cluster on Oct 24^th, 2005, 7:41am

Gruezi Ueli,

Thanks for your sound scientific and - neutral – Swiss opinion.

I almost completely agree with you, but:

- see (German language)
http://f15.parsimony.net/cgi-bin/topic-indent.cgi?Nummer=24836&ThreadNummer=10273

* They were quick, the above posting has already been deleted by the admins of that MB *

********* At least they sent an email why: ***********************
„Hallo Friedrich,
Deine Bemerkungen über das amerikanische Board sind nicht lustig.
Wenn Du schamrot wirst, lese dort einfach nicht - es zwingt Dich ja niemand dazu.
Deine vorgefertigten Posting kannst Du bei dem ehemaligen CSG Mitglied schreiben, aber bitte nicht hier.
Wir mögen keinen Kontakt - auch nicht über Dritte - zu Leuten, die Rufschädigung der übelsten Art betreiben - J.H. macht solches - auch im amerikanschen Board.“
***********************************************************
I put my German posting here too:
http://www.ck-wissen.de/forum/board.php?id=5
http://www.ck-wissen.de/forum/thread.php?id=18

I tried to post the same text on the CSG message board (MB) on Saturday and again on Sunday, it did not pass the censorship.

In the above posting I already stated that all these MBs, but the two big ones (CSG + VCH-OUCH) are almost as half as big as the cemetery of Chicago – but they are twice as dead.

- I did not and I do not “support” JH.
I don’t even know him, please let us know, what’s wrong with him?

“I am "pissed off" with the situation of the German cluster support "communities". This thread here got even worse than I expected after munich posted the link to the new message board. But as ueli posted, it is a waste of time to discuss this matter any further. Perhaps, some time in the future I will understand what this is all about, but the "politics of German cluster headache support groups" can be quite confusing for a newbie. I deleted my posts in this discussion, there are other people who may know the background, I don't.” (I wrote this in September).

- Ueli, I did sent you an email Oct. 8th, 2005, asking about some background, did you receive this email? (received no answer yet – re-send today)

- Thanks to our American friends, here we have the freedom to delete our postings by ourselves. I put up two, I think, postings at your VCH-OUCH message board and they were deleted by the admins. Why?

- If you don’t like the CH database proposal, please let me know why at:
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chspecific;action=display;num=1126505637

PPRanch (and everybody else who is or has been bothered by this discussion),

Sorry for the inconvenience. There are just some Krauts around here (just included myself again) working at their international reputation. Peace! - No chance for WW III -. I almost completely trust Ueli, because Pinkfloyd trusts him (and because Ueli is from Switzerland).

Regards and pain free times!
Friedrich

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jule on Oct 24^th, 2005, 8:43am

Hello Friedrich,

thanks for publication my mail. Please finish this endless discussion which interests nobody.

Regards and pain free times

Jule
German VCH / OUCH

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by ete on Oct 24^th, 2005, 10:47am

on 10/24/05 at 07:41:37, cluster wrote:

/topic-indent.cgi?Nummer=24836&ThreadNummer=10273

I almost completely trust Ueli

OK Guy, then do it finally!

A last word to you and the others of the J.H. gang

and be sure, nobody supports your pissing contests round all message boards.

Nobody on the German OUCH Board is interessed in your problems with other boards or any csg and we don´t accept and discuss your bullshit in our board, so your posts will be deleted. We also don´t accept setting links to helpless moron sites and forums of liars like J.H., you support.

Never!

be sure, every post of you on our board will be deleted without any discussion!

ete

PS. We support and help cluster headache sufferers but not persons with identification problems.

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by cluster on Oct 24^th, 2005, 5:12pm

Dear Ete,

I will be taking a couple of days off - to work at my self–identification.

But to put things straight before I go: My posting at your message board did NOT include any links to JH’s message board. The two links used are to this very and one and only CH.com message board here. The posting is a summary of what has happened here in this thread so far and is by no means a discussion about CSG. CSG was only mentioned to explain a bit of Munich’s background as I see it from my point of view. (Posting text see below).

I highly appreciate the work you, VCH-OUCH and CSG are doing to help CH sufferers.

Dear Jule, dear Ueli,

please forward the email I sent you today to Ete, I lost it somewhere on my HD.

Looking forward to hearing from you,
Yours faithfully, pain free times,
Friedrich

Here is the posting which was deleted at the VCH-OUCH message board:
(Perhaps somebody finds the time to translate this ;-), but if not, I am sure your German is good enough to understand this).
***********************************************
Chart breaker - Top of the Pops

Der absolute Hit des Jahres auf der Mutter aller Internet CH Foren, clusterheadaches.com ist der Beitrag „Cluster Board Germany“. Inzwischen 82 Antworten und über 2000 ‚Hits’ und das alles seit dem 14.9.2005, also in nur fünf Wochen.

Wer gerne sein englisches (Schimpfwort-) Vokabular erweitern möchte und einer Diskussion tief unter jeder Gürtellinie folgen mag, sollte sich das mal ansehen. Nena und Nina Hagen kommen auch drin vor. Nur Schlammcatchen ist besser!

Geschrieben wurde der ursprüngliche Beitrag von „munich“ – munich hatte sich im deutschen CSG Forum vor einiger Zeit nach Erfahrungen mit Kudzu erkundigt (Spitzname ufo). Durch die Reaktionen auf seinen hiesigen Beitrag leider vergrault, hat er sich inzwischen einem alternativen CH Forum eines ehemaligen CSG Mitglieds angeschlossen. Dieses alternative Forum empfiehlt er in seinem Beitrag „Cluster Board Germany“. Und dann geht nach ein bisschen Geplänkel die Post ab ...

Ich hatte mich dort auch zu einigen vorsichtigen Bemerkungen hinreißen lassen, aber das wurde dann so schlimm, dass ich vor lauter Scham meine Beiträge wieder gelöscht habe. Das sind die Jungs, vor denen mich meine Mutter immer gewarnt hat!

Inzwischen finde ich das dort so lustig, dass ich heute wieder etwas dazu geschrieben habe: Ja, es gibt mindestens 5 (in Worten FÜNF) deutschsprachige Clusterkopfschmerzforen. Eigentlich sollte vielleicht jeder von uns sein eigenes Forum aufmachen. - Wie, Du hast CH und noch kein eigenes Forum?

Eines haben die 4 (VIER) nicht CSG deutschsprachigen Foren allerdings gemeinsam: Jedes davon ist fast halb so groß wie der Friedhof von Chikago, aber doppelt so tot! – Bis auf VCH- O.U.C.H. vielleicht, da ist in letzter Zeit auch wieder mehr los.

Ja, entschuldigt bitte, ich fange auch an zu polemisieren. Bitte um Verzeihung, bin neu hier und wollte eigentlich nur Fragen wegen dem Sauerstoff etc. ... – Aber die Politik der deutschsprachigen CH Szene hat was. Zum Glück bin ich zurzeit einigermaßen schmerzfrei.

Also, schaut Euch das mal an – die Amerikaner schauen inzwischen ja auch hier bei uns und haben Dank babelfish translator z.B. etwas über Limburger Käse und lila Elefanten gelernt -! Any Frolleins around? – Zwei Kristallweizen bitte! WWIII?

http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chspecific;action=display;num=1126719741
Gruß und schmerzfreie Zeiten!
Friedrich

P.S.: munich is not a troll! Wer mehr über Kudzu wissen möchte, sollte vielleicht ein Email an munich schicken. – Siehe seinen (ufo) Beitrag über KUDZU im CSG Forum.

Ach ja, den bescheidenen Vorschlag für eine Globale Clusterkopfschmerzdatenbank hatte ich u.a. auch auf CH.com gepostet (Englisch):
http://www.clusterheadaches.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.cgi?board=chspecific;action=display;num=1126505637

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Ueli on Oct 24^th, 2005, 8:25pm

on 10/24/05 at 06:16:14, munich wrote:

Why am i a troll?

I don't know, maybe because you are associated with that good-for-nothing Jens Heise? In case you should not know what a troll is, read http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet), it will be like looking into a mirror.

Apart from that, there would be pages to write. But I'm tired to waste my time in replying to that bunch of losers, who think because they don't get any attention in Germany they have to export their crap to an English language board.

If you dimwits haven't realized it up to now, most people on this board don't read German, and therefore your links from the rubbish dump are of no use to them. The few that can read German know the stone from which you slobs crawled forth. So piss off, back to your gutter!

I'm done for good, no further discussion with these idiots [smiley=smokin.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Sean_C on Oct 24^th, 2005, 8:41pm

Danke Ueili, unser Haus ist hier [smiley=hug.gif]

Sean............................... ;)

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by soccer on Oct 26^th, 2005, 1:11pm

Quote:

Also, schaut Euch das mal an – die Amerikaner schauen inzwischen ja auch hier bei uns und haben Dank babelfish translator z.B. etwas über Limburger Käse und lila Elefanten gelernt -! Any Frolleins around? – Zwei Kristallweizen bitte! WWIII?

Don't feed the baboons [smiley=laugh.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by Jonny on Oct 27^th, 2005, 5:59pm

on 10/24/05 at 20:25:35, Ueli wrote:

If you dimwits haven't realized it up to now, most people on this board don't read German, and therefore your links from the rubbish dump are of no use to them. The few that can read German know the stone from which you slobs crawled forth. So piss off, back to your gutter!

'Dimwits'....LMMFAO...I love that ;;D

on 10/24/05 at 20:25:35, Ueli wrote:

I'm done for good, no further discussion with these idiots [smiley=smokin.gif]

....................... [smiley=bigguns.gif][smiley=headbanger.gif]

Title: Re: Cluster Board Germany
Post by rextangle on Oct 27^th, 2005, 6:09pm

Well, I was just about to say something about that!
I can read germans, but hey! THIS IS NOT GERMANY!!!

You guys have your own chatboard in teutonic, so use it!

No offense, I grew up a mile away from the German border, and there's a reason I live thousands of miles away.

So thanks for stopping by, come back anytime you want as long as you agree to post in english.

Danke a lot!
Rex ;;D