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Title: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by De_Minimis on Apr 21st, 2005, 1:14am I've got it in my head that physical activity, or lack thereof, might play a small role in our little CH lives. So, how active are you folks? Afraid to go first? Ok, I'll do it. I used to be very active. This past year (and during this CH series), however, I'd classify myself as down right sedintary. I engage in almost no cardio at all lately. No need for the exucses, just the result. So, let's keep score and see if there might be a pattern: Potato: 1 Physically Active (3 or more times a week getting out there and sweating: run, bike, swim, etc.): 0 |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by BobG on Apr 21st, 2005, 2:00am IMHO, staying busy is my way to avoid shadows/attacks. I'm on the move all day every day but not necessarily straining myself. I'm on my feet doing something like working on the hot rod, doing yard work and chasing the grandkids. It's the relaxing in the La-Z-Boy and/or napping that I try to avoid. I think staying busy, both mind and body, helps me. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by Marta on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:19am Morning, Active? What's that about? Whilst going through an attack I might go for a wander in the fresh air but more than likely I take a shot and rock back and forth waiting for it to go. In between attacks I try to get out but because my BP gets low I'm not really up too much! Today I've made a real coffee! Woo hoo, watch her go - points 1. Take it easy and on your own level Marta |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by BarbaraD on Apr 21st, 2005, 7:55am I'm relatively active from about 3-4 a.m. till about 9-10 at night. This past week I've taken care of an ex-husband getting over surgery, a hyper 3 year old grandson with a bug, a son and daughter-in-law who just don't feel good. I don't get out and do sit-ups, but I'm constantly doing something (a lot of it at my desk, but I'm up and down there also). My HAs usually wake me up in the morning, so sleeping late is not an option. Active = 1 Potato =0 |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by De_Minimis on Apr 21st, 2005, 11:08am Ok, I'm being as clear as mud. By "active" I mean are you getting regular exercise (three or more times a week for periods lasting more than twenty mintues (cardio exercise))? I don't mean to ask what you are doing during an attack. I've read studies in the past about good exercise habits and improved quality of sleep, release of endorphens, and other physiological changes in the brain. I'm making a wild guess, but I'm wondering if an exercise routine might provide some relief from CH attacks (perhaps lessen them or not as intense). If most of us here are not getting enough exercise, as I suspect, this might be something that warrants further inquiry. Since the medical world doesn't seem to be chomping at the bit to figure these damn CHs out, we need to keep searching for solutions. Its been a long time since I took advanced research methods or stats, but it seems the first place to start on this silly notion of mine is to see if there is a pattern. Now, I've tainted the inquiry, but lets see where we are with the exercise. Of course, if you enjoy taking handfuls of pills that only sometimes work..... |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by Judge_Smails on Apr 21st, 2005, 11:16am Since I've entered this cycle I haven't done much, but to be fair it did hit me a couple of weeks after recovering from pneumonia so I was just starting to get my strength back. Normally I get to the gym 2-3 times a week and (now the the weather is cooperating) mountain bike 2 times a week. I tend to get my attacks in the evening so I'm wearing of going to the gym after work. I did go biking last weekend so that was good. I view it like a month in jail, I'm just trying to do my time and then get on with my life. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 21st, 2005, 11:19am There are a number of threads on this subject. What you will see is that there is a similar cross section to that which exists in the general population and a sedentary lifestyle doesn't seem to be an altogether relevant correlary. There was recently some discussion about whether exercise helps with the beast but the general consensus seems to be that while it may help someone's "spirit" and sense of resilience to face the beast, that it isn't a direct line correlation to having shorter cycles or less severe headaches. That being said, i'm an exercise junkie. I run marathons, I swim, I ride my bike to work when I can, I kayak. i'm in better shape at 42 than I was at 25. And, I still get clusters right on schedule 1 or 2 cycles a year. I peaked at kip 9+ this past cycle. So, all the exercise is not a deterrent for me. It does, however, put me in better shape to weather a cycle and enjoy being out of cycle. When in cycle however, prolonged cardio exercise is my most feared trigger. Go figure. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by rickyshot on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:09pm I work out four to five times a week two hours at the gym with weights and cardio. Plus in the spring/summer I am walking and biking too. That never deterred CH for me. When in cycle I can barely move sometime and all the gains I made in the gym go down the crapper....sigh.... |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by thomas on Apr 21st, 2005, 3:20pm running, or aerobic excercise does wonders for my shadows but weight lifting can trigger an attack. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by eyes_afire on Apr 21st, 2005, 8:15pm on 04/21/05 at 15:20:53, thomas wrote:
And I'm the exact opposite... 60 to 90 min after a cardio workout I'd get an additional attack. No problem with weights. I still get regular CH no matter what I do or don't do... --- Steve |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by sandie99 on Apr 22nd, 2005, 12:20pm I'm pretty active. I begin the day with 20-minute fitonics workout. I walk fast for an hour and 20 minutes each day. And I do a 20-minute pilates workout in the evening. :) |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by BlueMeanie on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:27pm No correlation to working out and CH's for me. Wether I'm sitting, running, or standing on my head, a Cluster appears when it wants. Just doesn't matter. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyo Post by Jonny on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:40pm http://www.a-dzign.com/jonny/jonny-working.jpg Imagine spending 50% of your day in this position with five buldging discs at 42 years of age ;;D I do it cause I have to and it fucking hurts, but I deal!!.....just like CH ;;D |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by don on Apr 22nd, 2005, 9:53pm You pose 50% of your day? Relax a bit. Unwind. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyo Post by maffumatt on Apr 23rd, 2005, 5:06pm I don't intentionaly exercise, but If I wasn't active at work I would go hungry. I might walk 8 to 10 miles in an average day. I use a spike maul regularly, nothing easy about that, so I would say I am an active person. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by court88 on Apr 25th, 2005, 2:20pm I am a total couch potatoe.. I'm too tired after work. I used to go walking a lot before or after work for 2 months and it didn't help, so I stopped :) |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by gravelgirl on Apr 25th, 2005, 3:06pm potato +1 Not much physical activity in race car driving.... ~B~ |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by De_Minimis on Apr 26th, 2005, 10:03pm on 04/25/05 at 15:06:40, gravelgirl wrote:
Hey, I wanna be a race car driver.... or astronaut. Think its too late to change careers at 39? |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyo Post by slacker032 on Apr 27th, 2005, 3:57am I normally hit the weights 4 times a week and jog 3 times a week but when a cycle hits, my excerise routine is compromised because of sheer exhaustion from the CH's. I'm in the middle of a cycle right now so I haven't been jogging in about 2 weeks. Still hitting the weights 3 or 4 times a week. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by gravelgirl on Apr 27th, 2005, 2:45pm on 04/26/05 at 22:03:55, De_Minimis wrote:
Never too late! Come join me in the dirt! |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyo Post by Mr. Happy on Apr 28th, 2005, 10:49am |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by vig on Apr 28th, 2005, 11:20am on 04/27/05 at 14:45:23, gravelgirl wrote:
;;D |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by forgetfulnot on Apr 30th, 2005, 2:11am Last time I played golf, about 6 years ago I got hit on the 9th hole and bailed out to my O2 and Imitrex. Their I am laying the front seat of my pickup snorting O2 and pulling my pants down to to a trex jab and my boss and best customer walk up, They think they are helping me out right. I caught up with them at the end of #10 and finished the round, It was about 98 deg that day and very humid. All of sudden my boss started treating me like a freak, my best customer went elsewhere, lost that job 6 mo later. I don't do much exercise anymore; I just got alienated over it. Lee |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by Candycane on May 2nd, 2005, 12:21pm I work out 4-5 times a week but before meds(preventives) and becoming chronic it would trigger them alot....but somehow help with the night hits, go figure. I do pilates, its not real cardio more strenght training than anything. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by Dave on May 15th, 2005, 7:44am De_Minimis, to comment directly on your theory ... I do think that regular physical activity can be one first line of defense. So yes, you are on to something. But like every other significant prophylactic measure (e.g., Verapamil, Prednisone...), it helps for some people during some cycles, but does not help for all people and does not help in all cycles. When I was younger, I found that that regular aerobic exercise could cut down some CH cycles. But I have also found that it doesn't always work. On the other hand, I am one of those people where weight lifting or other vigorous exercise during a cycle works better than O2 as an abortive. But for others, weight lifting and O2 do not help. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by don on May 15th, 2005, 9:50am Very active. Cant count the number of times I go from the lazy boy to the fridge during a Pats game. |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by sandie99 on May 15th, 2005, 12:02pm on 05/15/05 at 09:50:35, don wrote:
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by yikes-another-one on May 15th, 2005, 3:22pm I used to do aerobic dancing for about 1 1/2 hours every other day. :o Now I work at a daycare and chase the kids from window to block area.... barely sit down from 7am - 6pm. (Have to lift the children to diaper table 30 times a day and lift them to wash hands more than that. Not counting rescuing them from other kids, unsafe climbing positions, and lifting them for hugs when they need reassurance....) :P After all that I am too tired to intentionally move a muscle. :-/ The Ch has worn me out so much that i cannot stand or sit for more than 10 minutes at a time. Either way ... I just cannot get "comfortable" :'( Sometimes chasing the kids may postpone an attack of level 4 or 5... but as soon as the bp goes back to normal.... then Whammmo... so it may delay, but not "eliminate" the pain. hope it continues to work for you!!!!!!! :D |
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Title: Re: Curious: How physically active is everyone? Post by don on May 15th, 2005, 8:23pm Quote:
I had thought about that. And that was about it. |
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