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(Message started by: Elsa on Apr 11^th, 2005, 8:15am)

Title: Drinking
Post by Elsa on Apr 11^th, 2005, 8:15am

A quick question... now that clusters are associated with an abnormality in the hypothalamus, is there any definative answer as to the relationship between heavy drinking during OFF periods and the headache?

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by nani on Apr 11^th, 2005, 8:39am

I really don't know if there's a definitive answer to that. I can tell you what most people here say. Most episodic CH sufferers can drink when not in cycle. It is a trigger when they are. Most chronics can drink anytime, except chronics like me, who have periods (I call them episodes for lack of a better term) when CH activity is more intense. Hope that helps. Welcome, by the way. :)
Pain free wishes, nani

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 11^th, 2005, 10:51am

There won't be much anywhere, I don't believe, that indicates that heavy drinking, "on" or "off", is a very good idea for clusterheads or for those with a perfect hypothalamajingy.

:-/

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Bionic_Daddy on Apr 11^th, 2005, 11:52am

Hello, drinking triggers my HA's every time & it really sucks! I'm chronic & haven't had a drink in a long time. Bionic Daddy

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by sandie99 on Apr 11^th, 2005, 1:10pm

Well, I'm chronic and CH turned me sober... Not that I drank that much before, but anyway.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Langa on Apr 11^th, 2005, 2:53pm

Going on an 11 month cycle and won’t go near alcohol – it’s a major trigger for me. I was able to drink in the past during remission.

Langa

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by maffumatt on Apr 11^th, 2005, 4:15pm

I dont drink anymore, and looking back I think its because I learned I got HAs from it. I quit even before I was diagnosed.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Jonny on Apr 11^th, 2005, 5:41pm

on 04/11/05 at 11:52:34, Bionic_Daddy wrote:

Hello, drinking triggers my HA's every time & it really sucks! I'm chronic & haven't had a drink in a long time. Bionic Daddy

Hello.....30 years chronic and drinking has never triggered an attack....nothing has ever triggered one for me.

Everyone is different, thats why this bitch is so hard to diagnose ;;D

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by BarbaraD on Apr 11^th, 2005, 6:02pm

Me either Jonny. I don't drink when I'm on meds heavy, but I even tried a couple of beers lately and they didn't trigger the CH. I think when I'm gonna get hit, I'm just gonna get hit. Chronic since 97.

Hugs BD

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by BlueMeanie on Apr 11^th, 2005, 6:37pm

Elsa,

I don't think there is no relationship to drinking when NOT in cycle. I can drink all I want. Once a cycle starts, no drinks for me.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by TonyG1 on Apr 11^th, 2005, 7:55pm

on 04/11/05 at 18:37:29, BlueMeanie wrote:

Elsa,

I don't think there is no relationship to drinking when NOT in cycle. I can drink all I want. Once a cycle starts, no drinks for me.

Ditto for me Meanie !

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by chicagoseal on Apr 11^th, 2005, 8:03pm

on 04/11/05 at 18:37:29, BlueMeanie wrote:

Elsa,

I don't think there is no relationship to drinking when NOT in cycle. I can drink all I want. Once a cycle starts, no drinks for me.

I was in a 2 week cycle. I went out to a club after being couped up most of that time and I was having that "feeling" when you think youre really close to having a CH attack. Well, I succumbed to the peer pressure and drank a beer. I thought it'd surely incite an attack, but it actually made that uncomfortable feeling go away, and it made me feel better. I havent had a CH attack since then (Friday APril 2).

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by bigAl on Apr 11^th, 2005, 9:59pm

on 04/11/05 at 10:51:28, seasonalboomer wrote:

for those with a perfect hypothalamajingy.

Is this really a word?

I wish I had it--whatever it is!

I am imagining perfect hypothalamajingy...

in a perfect world with perfect harmojingy...

la la la, la la

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by justin on Apr 11^th, 2005, 10:37pm

i was chronic but taking my meds has given me three difinitive cycles a year. i just don't drink then. when i'm not getting hit regulary (several times every day) i can usually have a drink and not get hit. or two or three ;)

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Chillrmn1 on Apr 12^th, 2005, 5:39am

Drinking in cycle always triggered a hit and was not convinced drinking didn't perpetuate cycles for me. Call me a wimp, gave up the drinking and now have one less thing to blame it on and no more hangovers.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Ellick on Apr 12^th, 2005, 6:05am

It is usually a drink that tells me a cycle has begun. I have half a small glass of beer and within 10 minutes I've got 'red eye' and have just got to go. Outside of cycle I am not a heavy or dependent drinker and enjoy a good social life. I keep fairly fit as well.

ET.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by don on Apr 12^th, 2005, 6:56am

For episodics CH is the alternative to AA.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Bob P on Apr 12^th, 2005, 2:38pm

Clusterheads are the biggest bunch of alcohol swillin', tobacco smokin', dope users in the population. Go to one convention and you'll know it's true! They'll give you all kind of rationalizations and say it's not true but don't believe them.

Now for the relationship with ch. Hell if I know. Do know that some of the 5HT drugs are used to fight addiction. So my theory is that whatever is meesed up in our hypothingy that gives us the headaches, also gives us addictive personalities.

http://www.clusterheadaches.org/library/general/lifestyle.htm

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 12^th, 2005, 2:53pm

who assigned Bob to be our public relation's spokesperson? I want their ass in a sling. Bob is not supposed to refer to his constituents as "the biggest bunch of alcohol swillin', tobacco smokin', dope users" --- last time we hire a P.R. firm with a location right next to a topless bar.

future references to the link between "heavy drinking" and clusterheadaches should always refer to being "neither able to confirm nor deny such a link exists." All references to "dope users" should always refer the reader to an alternate nefarious website where "dope users" can gather. All references "tobacco smokin" should make reference to the linkage between tobacco use and the dangers to unborn children, preferably using the canadian policy of inserting a skull and cross bones graphic.

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Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Bob P on Apr 12^th, 2005, 4:18pm

Yeah boomer, that's what I said.

(do the canuckians really use the skull & crossbones?)

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by seasonalboomer on Apr 12^th, 2005, 4:25pm

yup, they use lots of scary messages. if they could they would swear at you and call you names in the warning box.

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Margi on Apr 12^th, 2005, 4:27pm

here's one of the nastier pictures on our packages.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/01/09/canadian.cigarettes/index.html

I hate the teeth one. I always ask for a different package if I get that one. Others include warnings about smoking around children (pic of a lil gaffer), smoking while pregnant (pic of a prego belly), lung cancer (pic of ..you guessed it.. cancerous lungs), and erectile dysfunction (that one's just text ::)).

We can buy labels that fit right neatly over the governments scare tactic pics (that don't do diddly to influence smokers against smoking.)

This would be more effective, but I doubt the gov't would go to the expense of installing .gifs on our smokes.

http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/smoking8.gif

Title: Re: Drinking
Post by Bob P on Apr 12^th, 2005, 6:00pm

Holy crap!

Bad teeth, kill the kid or the unborn, lung cancer & E.D.

Remind me to never smoke Canukian tobaccey!

I'll stick to my swisher sweets (down Joe, down!)