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(Message started by: jokrs2 on Apr 1^st, 2005, 6:39pm)

Title: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by jokrs2 on Apr 1^st, 2005, 6:39pm

Hello all.
I received my Hawaiian Baby Wine Woodrose seeds from IamShaman today. As of last night I started a taper on kudzu lowering my dosage to 1 - 750mg Planetary Formulas Kudzu Recovery pill every 8 hours. I am already starting to notice the difference. My kip level has increased to an average 3 to 4 with stronger shadows in between my 6 hits per day. Instead of the pleasant herb smell this not to pleasant burnt smell has returned, and I am feeling a hit on the left side right now. I still have some imitrex tabs and some morphine sulphate SR stashed in my medicine archives, that I have not used since starting kudzu therapy. I know that I have gotten suggestions of being completely away from kudzu for 5 days before dosing with LSA, but what should I do as this pain increases? I don't think imitrex is an option because of the receptor but would the morphine be ok for breakthrough since it does not seem to be involved with the same receptor area over the 5 day period? The morphine is 15mg tab that is time released over 12 hours which of course would make for 2 per day for a total of 10 and I have enough to do that. Would it be possible to stop kudzu entirely right now and shorten the wait time to maybe 3 days? I can feel the beast getting nearer to nailing me. Any additional advice would be greatly appreciated from others that have used this or the like product "only". LYG's
Joe

Title: Re: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by vig on Apr 1^st, 2005, 9:10pm

I'm guessing this 'experiment' has never been conducted.
You are hereby designated lab rat #1....
Use your instincts and maybe ask your doctor...

Title: Re: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by Kim Y. on Apr 1^st, 2005, 11:58pm

Agree with Paul check with the doctor. Why mess with a good thing If it is getting worse backing off Kudzu why not increase it and keep the beast at bay. :-/

Good luck and PF wishes.

Title: Re: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by Pinkfloyd on Apr 2^nd, 2005, 1:28am

The morphine will almost certainly block the LSA.

We aren't sure if kudzu will. Probably will but....??? As Vig said, you'd most likely be the first to try it.

I'd probably suggest getting back to the dose of kudzu that was helping and either stay on it and try to back off at a later date, or....try the LSA with the kudzu. All you'd lose are a few seeds and it might work, even if partially.

How well was the kudzu working at the levels you were using?

good luck.
Bobw

Title: Re: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by jokrs2 on Apr 2^nd, 2005, 1:43am

The beast is still knocking on the door with the kudzu. He is not getting in, and at most I am getting up to a kip 3 at the worst of times, the pain is getting worse during hits as I reduce the amount. This experiment that I am planning is to see if I can get complete remission for any period of time. This would include the shadows which are always present. After the experiment and or trial period I will go back to the kudzu dose that has given me a "much better" life. At least now (because of this site and the people in it) I know that kudzu will help me better than the triptans or narcotics. If the LSA is not worth the effort I will end up with a couple of nice plants growing in my house and outside in the warmer months with nice flowers. I don't consider myself to be any kind of pioneer in this, as I feel that it has already been done. I am just very curious, and who knows perhaps by keeping good records of dose, time and result, my experience may be a blessing to not just me. I felt terrible this winter after I read the results that people were having with psylocibin because I had a truck load of new topsoil delivered from a dairy farm and lo and behold I had cyansens growing in my front yard last fall. As I was worried about the kids in the area seeing them I pulled them and discarded...darnit! :-X
Kudzu is my main trust and will remain so, this is just a check see. ;) PFD's, Joe

Title: Re: Advice wanted from the ClusterBusters
Post by jokrs2 on Apr 2^nd, 2005, 1:56am

Hi Bob
I am quite pleased with the kudzu. I have been taking Planetary Formulas Kudzu Recovery 2 pills 3x daily spaced every 8 hours. I am also taking melatonin 6mg and occasionally when it's really bad, zanax 1mg for RLS, so that I can sleep. Have to sleep sitting up now in a recliner as laying down makes the hits much worse. I will follow your advice and stay off the morph and do my first trial at half the dose on kudzu tomorrow. I purchased 50 of the highest quality Hawaiian and am going to use just 2 seeds in the first trial. I will post my initial findings on Sunday. I dream of a time without shadow... :) LYG, Joe