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(Message started by: rumplestiltskin on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 10:25am)

Title: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by rumplestiltskin on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 10:25am

With yer happy face hammering of the brits who are fighting for the freedom to mention shrooms at the ever so proper OUCHUK.

If you can support "freedom" fighting...and you know what I'm referring to.

How can you not support an effort to end a CH...whatever the legalities or bullshit bookeeping or red tape surrounds it. Lets see just what kind of "freedom" you all will cross an ocean to fight for. Granted...there are no oil wells to gain or muslims to bring to jesus in this fight...

It's simply "freedom of speech" to simply say "hey...a lot of CH sufferers have stopped their CH with this"

I can't do shrooms because of the legalities...butt if my CH friends can stop a CH with it...let no one with CH be without this information.

...and let noone wear the OUCH logo that prevents CH sufferers from stopping a CH for any reason...by any means...

There...i think i just stuck "war", "politics" and "religion" in one post.

Love
den

PS: The bottom line is stopping a CH...or do you have some other agenda here?

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by ghost62 on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 10:34am

Den I gotta say it
Welcome to America where We HAVE freedom of speech, some countries even the developed ones do not have all the rights we have and they need to try to obtain them. I agree to a point I think they should be able to discuss shrooms but for legal reasons they cannot. To hold all of our freedoms to others is like saying all animals are dogs. There are things all over the world that is illegal and not here though, there is also things in other countries legal but not here each counrty is different. Even in Iraq We freed them but there laws will still be alot different than ours, same as Afghanastan, When at a place that it is illegal to do something dont do it. its that simple.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by TxBasslady on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 10:57am

Den,

If dog shit was proven to stop CH, I'd use it.

I'm an advocate for anything that helps a CH sufferer. I would do the shrooms before I would ever use Imitrex.

I guess I don't see where we (CH.com) have slammed or bashed a couple of guys who are pro shrooms. To my knowledge, most all of us here support the use.

The main point was that someone was banned from a forum....a forum that evidently doesn't allow such conversation. That is not our (CH.com) fault. We can talk about it..no problem. But if the rules of that other forum do not allow it, then that's on them.

There's freedom of speech...and choice here. Evidently, that freedom does not exist "across the pond". Their rules prohibit the discussion....so be it.

I am against naming drug companies...and possibly damaging any affiliation we may/might have. It's a fact that someone gets relief from the meds that they (drug co.) provide. Along the same lines....many folks here get relief from shrooms. No way would I be critical of anyone who finds PF time from shrooms, or any other treatment.

If there were others from CH.com who bashed or slammed the original posters of that other thread, then they can come here and defend themselves, if they feel it's needed.

I stand by Clusterbusters....always will...and will make good use of that treatment when/if I ever need it.

So, just to clarify....my only objection to any of the other thread, was an apparent negative remark about a named pharmaceutical company. There are affiliations....and these are important to those who suffer...there are folks here (CH.com) who need and want that continued affiliation.

Anyone who suffers with CH should not be denied any viable treatment....no matter if it comes from the ground, or from a bottle.

It's not the treatment itself that's questioned....but another forum's rules of discussion, that prevent it from being discussed. IMHO...I know of noone here (CH.com) who objects to the use of shrooms. For damn sure I don't...

Jean

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Jeepgun on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 11:00am

I couldn't agree more, Jean. Well spoken.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by CHTom on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 12:24pm

I don't believe that there is ANY law in the UK that bans the discussion of ANYTHING except for items falling under the government secrets act, which I doubt that 'shrooms do. If you've ever watched BBC TV, they discuss things there that would never be allowed on American TV, so I seriously doubt that discussing 'shrooms or anything else that is not related to British national security is not allowed to be discussed in a public forum.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Cerberus on Nov 3^rd, 2005, 11:39pm

Momma makes a real good point...

Anyhow Den, if we are just starting to piss you off, hang around a bit, I'm sure we'll get better at it as time goes on....LOL!

Hi Georgia :)

Peace Out,
'Bus

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Jasmyn on Nov 4^th, 2005, 12:16am

I'm all for freedom of speech, I think it should be a basic human right.

My only [smiley=twocents.gif]

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by rextangle on Nov 4^th, 2005, 12:29am

Ditto.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by forgetfulnot on Nov 4^th, 2005, 12:52am

Could be I was hallucinating but I read many posts that shrooms are legal in England. So whats the problem. I also recall the OUCH snoots over here doing the exact same thing. They had somewhat of a leg to stand on and finally found some crutches.

Lee

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Cerberus on Nov 4^th, 2005, 1:00am

I am still waiting on a definitive answer as to what exactly "freedom" of speech is...

has never happened and never will...well, not until man is erased from existance.

Quote:

and let noone wear the OUCH logo that prevents CH sufferers from stopping a CH for any reason...by any means...

Does that include suicide? My word man, I hope not.

The voice of reason....again.
'Bus

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Charlie on Nov 4^th, 2005, 1:14am

I understand that England doesn't codify everything like our freedom of speech fighters.

Maybe it's just OUCHUK that gets all in a tizzy.

Charlie

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by BikerBob on Nov 4^th, 2005, 2:13am

Hey Rex,

Start an OUCH (France).

Those Brits can't even run an OUCH organization. They can't even cook except "fish & chips with vinegar" and bangers for breakfast.

An OUCH (France) would humiliate the OUCH (UK) by allowing freedom of speech and saving Europe from the repressive rules of the British monarchy.

BB ;)

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Chillrmn1 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 5:15am

Good suggestion BB. ;-)

Have to admit I'm quite puzzled why OUCH UK won't allow this alternative treatment to be discussed and I'm not buying this is against their legal advice due to the law. Seems more there..................interested to know the real story. Problem I have is sufferers being denied the opportunity to be made aware of a treatment that could be beneficial for them and provide relief.

Makes one realize how lucky we are to have a free and open board in CH.com.

Bob

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by vig on Nov 4^th, 2005, 7:02am

on 11/04/05 at 05:15:24, Chillrmn1 wrote:

I'm with Bob on this one.
I've been following this 'debate' for a couple of years now and OuCH UK has never had a convincing argument that they can't discuss it.
but they won't....
mention it and you get pulled.
then they run and hide again.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Big Dan on Nov 4^th, 2005, 8:55am

Shrooms good, Cluster bad. Whatever ya gotta dose to get relief. It's all good. But uh...

Quote:

Granted...there are no oil wells to gain or muslims to bring to jesus in this fight...

... fuh?! O_o

-Big Dan

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by thomas on Nov 4^th, 2005, 9:21am

Oooooooooohhhh did him get him wittle feaveahs wuffled??

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Bob P on Nov 4^th, 2005, 9:50am

Freedom of speech also infers freedom not to speak.

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Big Dan on Nov 4^th, 2005, 10:12am

on 11/04/05 at 09:21:49, thomas wrote:

Oooooooooohhhh did him get him wittle feaveahs wuffled??

Pluck off...

... :P

-Big Dodo

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by thomas on Nov 4^th, 2005, 10:28am

on 11/04/05 at 10:12:22, Big Dan wrote:

Pluck off...

... :P

-Big Dodo

Wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the originator of this pointless thread. ;)

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by Big Dan on Nov 4^th, 2005, 10:29am

on 11/04/05 at 10:28:03, thomas wrote:

Wasn't directed at you, it was directed at the originator of this pointless thread. ;)

I know, I was just gettin' my cheap shot in for the day...

... ZING!

-Big Dan

Title: Re: You folks are startin to piss me off
Post by ghost62 on Nov 4^th, 2005, 11:51am

Have you ever wondered?

Have you ever wondered why condoms come in boxes of 3, 6 or 12?

If you have, then take a look at this.

A man walks into a drug store with his 13 year old son. They walk by the condom display and the boy asks, "What are these, Dad?"
The father matter of factly replies, "Those are called condoms, son.
Men use them to have safe sex."
"Oh, I see", replied the boy pensively. "Yes, I've heard of them in health class at school."

He looks over the display and picks up a package of 3 and asks, "Dad, why are there only 3 in this packet?"

The father replies, "those are for high school boys .... One for Friday, one for Saturday and one for Sunday."

"Hey Dad, that's real cool! says the boy. He then notices a pack of 6 and asks,

"Then, who are these for?"

"Those, son, are for college boys", replied the father. "Two for Friday, two for Saturday and two for Sunday".
"WOW", says the boy, "then WHO uses THESE????” he asks, picking up a 12 pack.

With a sigh, the father replies, "Those are for married men...One for January, one for February, one for March.....”