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Title: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:52am I really thought it would get better when she got past 15 or 16. Was I ever wrong! She went from psycho 16 to bitchier than hell 18! (I'll skip right over shitty 17!) I have learned that there is absolutely no way to teach her anything whatsoever... she knows everything there is to know about everything. Don't get me wrong, I have been trying to teach her since she was born and I have learned the look on her face means "I am not listening to you". Either I am going to strangle her, or I am going to trade her in for a new model, cuz this mom has had enough of her shit! ok.. I feel better now. (now don't give me the same "look", ok?) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by LeLimey on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:55am My daughter is only eleven yet so I have all this to come.. and I have NOOOOOO idea where she gets it from either!! ;;D Good luck and if you find anywhere to trade them in.. let me know....please... |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Kate in Oz on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:58am Ha ha ha.... sorry I really shouldn't laugh but I hear you!! oh my god my sons only 3 and I'm thinking same chin up [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by AussieBrian on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:00am Can she cook? |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:03am she burns grilled cheese. Honestly, she gets distracted by the freakin tv and forgets what she was doing, then blames everyone else! And sons are easier. He CAN cook like a madman, but only because he loves to eat. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Carl_D on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:05am Like the times, the kids they are a changin'! Peace, Carl |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by AussieBrian on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:05am Can she clean? |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:07am She will never beat mine who is now 21 and finally improving. Mine is facing jail sentence for gansterism OK? amongst other horrors we went through. And the thing is that mine is such a nice person who is generous to a fault. When she was 17 she walzed into my home after clubbing all night with her hand on her skinny hip. I sent her flying across the room and told her she could call 911 . My way or the highway in my house honey. She moved out a few weeks later and has been out there ever since. But we have gotten closer since last year. Life has a way of biting you in the ass and most do finally get it. I have a cousin who was so terrible that she was setting fires in her mother's house. A biatch from hell. Well finally in her 30's she had her first child and did an 180 degree turn. You would not know her. Keep praying, don't take no shit and hold on. I let my kids know I will not take any bs and they can move out but when they want to straighten up they will have my full support, and come back anytime but in my house-my rules. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Sandy_C on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:10am You will survive! Trust me on this. My oldest daughter, Amanda (now 29), turned from a pretty trustworthy, respectful child into a raving bitch as soon as she hit high school (ain't peer pressure great >:() She clammed up, would not tell me anything, and lied about several things. However, I always (I think) found her out. Example: freshman year - age 15, wanted to go on spring break to the beach, stay in a house with a bunch of her buddies (boys included), unsupervised. Of course, our answer was no. Came home from work one day and found the phone book open to hotels, with a paper napkin laying there with phone numbers of Myrtle Beach hotels. Mind you, she was a straight A student, very bright - but puleeeeze - how dumb was that? I didn't say one word to her, just waited to see how this was going to play out. She bops in the door, all sweet and nice and happy to report that she has been invited to go to a lake with her girlfriend and her parents for spring break. Right. I told her we would give it some thought but that I needed to speak to the girl's parents and get all the info, their names, where's the cottage, phone numbers, etc, etc. Amanda looked at me like I had lost my mind. Next night get phone call from Mr. ***, girlfriend's dad. Funny, dad's voice still hadn't changed. She did not go to the beach that year. Fortunately, her younger sister, Christine, witnessed all of this, and learned from her sister's mistakes. Chris was also bitchy in her teens, but by that time I was seasoned in battle. Now, both my girls are adults, and are my best friends, so hang in there, Mom. Sandy |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Kate in Oz on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:17am on 10/27/05 at 08:03:03, JenniferD wrote:
So I am lead to believe! The relief !!! when I found out I was having a boy! YIPEEEEEE I was a BITCH !!! my mother hated me and I hated her right back. Needless to say I wasn't looking forward to having to deal with all that shit with a daughter. And yet I agree with Ricky there is hope... so don't give up. Mum and I are now best of friends - speak on the phone at least once a week. I love her dearly, wouldn't be without her and even ask for her advice!!! Having said all that I do really feel for you :-/ ... Thank goodness there is somewhere to unload without reproach ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by TomM on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:21am on 10/27/05 at 08:10:50, Sandy_C wrote:
Ahhh...the cycle of life. Aint it grand? Hang tough and keep a cool head. TomM |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by minnie on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:23am As a former teenager from hell I can say it will get better.my problems started at around 13 or 14 and lasted till I quit school at 16.I got busy babysitting and then got other jobs.helped my older sister who had to work two jobs and was a single mom raise her daughter and son.I grew up and don't have a third of the temper I used to have.Billy hasn't seen me really lose my temper but he's seen me mess with my sister and seen a flicker of the old fear. ( [smiley=sgrin.gif] ;;D ) My only fear is my mom did the voodoo wish when I was a teenager and must admit I do the same thing to my daughters now and their only 7 & 8 .follow step by step when your daughter get to you. 1) look her straight in the eye with a wicked evil grin 2) wave you hads around like your casting a spell 3) then say very sternelly and happily " I hope you have 3 kids just like YOU' wave hands again don't forget the evil laugh and grin then say "oh by the way I'll be living in Hawaii by then and will not babysit but will listen to your phone calls sound sympathetic and then laugh hysterically at you" 4) at this point you can either clap you hands ,snap your fingers,wave your hands in her face or wiggle your nose (bewitched style) walk away laughing like a knowledgable wicked witch 5) repeat as often as needed and if ya need to get a doll that kinda looks like a frazzled voodoo doll and then have 3 wild looking dolls connected to it bring it out often and call it by your daughters name Disclaimer my mom and I haven't tied step # 5 but it kinda sounds like fun....HAA HAA HHAAA E*W*L* It works how do I know ...life with a 13 year old step daughter,a 7 and 8 year old daughters....Darn you Mom....... ** Modified to add ** I am now very close to my parents and sisters but sisters tend to bring things up sometimes [smiley=bash.gif] |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by pattik on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:43am I've been there and done that....and very recently. ;;D My daughter (now 18 and the light of my life), put her dad and I through the wringer from the age of about 12 onward. In fact, your post sounds like something I could have written. I'm just glad that we hung in there, because a few months ago, right after graduation, it was as if someone turned on a light switch, and things changed pretty quickly. And then there is that "mother/daughter relationship" thing that plays into everything. I'm not sure we're out of the woods yet, but her maturity level took a giant leap recently, and I'm still in awe at what a beautiful, caring and intelligent person she is growing into. Whatever you do, hang in there. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Margi on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:54am Man, can I relate to THIS subject!! I'll join the others and advise you to hang in there, it DOES get better. I firmly believe that all teenage daughters should be rounded up and sent to an island far, far away for about 6 years (from age 13 on...). My daughter is now 23 and has her own baby girl. It's made the world of difference for her. For years I prayed that she would straighten out and, trust me, becoming an unwed mother sure wouldn't have been the route I would have picked. But....our Father works in mysterious ways and having Savannah has completely turned Corinne onto a good path - she's a wonderful young lady now and actually LISTENS to the advice I give her! I remember my mother saying to me, 'someday, you'll have a daughter of your own.' Boy, was she right about all the complications that come with daughters! And then, I said it to Corinne. Yep, now SHE's got a baby girl. Payback is a bitch. And sweet serendipity for me now! I can't wait until Savannah turns 15. ;;D I dropped in on my girls yesterday and I amost fell over. Corinne's house smelled like lemons. The place was spotless. Dishes were done, floors were washed, laundry folded AND put away. She CLEANED. :o Without me nagging her. Wonders never cease. As a teenager, I was afraid to go into her room for fear something might crawl out from under her bed and bite me!! There's hope for them all, Jennifer. Take heart. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Kate in Oz on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:02am on 10/27/05 at 08:54:08, Margi wrote:
So Brian.... what ya reakon ?? still interested ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:28am ohmyfreakingawd minnie I laughed and laughed and laughed until i cried!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the voodoo dance!!!!!!!!!!!! I am I swear gonnna copy that and tape it to my fridge door!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by sandie99 on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:33am Oh boy, I've been VERY good girl indeed... ;;D I've never been to detention, never smoked anything, never appeared home drunk, never stayed over at friend's house without mentioning it beforehand... Okay, I have skipped classes. But I don't really count it, as my teacher was so used to see me in the front row that he didn't even realise that I wasn't there... ;;D I know I should buy "Bad Girl's Guide To Life" before it's too late! [smiley=laugh.gif] The biggest grief I ever gave my mum was that I lived abroad for 3 years. That got her blood pressure up. Sanna [smiley=sgrin.gif] (gotta start somewhere...lol) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jasmyn on Oct 27th, 2005, 10:18am Female hormones in one house tend to be an unholy blend. I have 2 teenage daughters 16 and 18. I keep on hoping that menopause will give me another few years as ch and teenagers are enough. I haven't had the pleasure of having my girls living with me for 9 years of their lives. Now these last years that they are with me hormones did not escape the equation. I changed tactics as I have so little time left with them and had so little before. When one of them get out of control (you'll all know what I mean) I stand firm on my point, grab the offended offender in both my arms, I don't let go - even in throws of anger, hug and hold and say:"I love you, I will ALWAYS love you" repeatedly until it becomes a whisper. Usually they give up and break down in tears - untill the next time. I have a stronger will and personality and life experience than them and I told them I will never give up on them although it may hurt them (me grabbing my child in their throws of anger, because they hate MY WAY and rolling around with them on the floors while they struggle until the world calms down and talking can presume) Only thing this takes is a lot of energy, determination and self control not to slap them silly but to keep the hug. It works for me... and for them... I didn't say they like it! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 10:22am I dunno Jas, slappin her silly sure seems like the better choice- and a whole lot more stress relieving for me right now! ;) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Margi on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:05am you're a good mum, Jas. ;) I've executed the exact same maneuver with my daughter, countless times. Pisses her off NO end! NO one wants a hug when they're on a major rant. But, it always ended in her dissolving in tears and coming to her senses, albeit temporarily. I remember, too, telling her "hey, I may not like you very much right now...but I will ALWAYS love you." It does become a battle of wills at some point but that's what keeps it interesting, right? Never NEVER give in to an urge to slap. It's just wrong. Does so much more damage, leaving pain that never heals. Go kick the hell out of a pillow or something instead. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Peppermint on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:13am on 10/27/05 at 10:18:53, Jasmyn wrote:
Hi Jasmyn, I really admire what you said above. It's hard to remember the love when you're angry, but that's why you're angry in the first place, because someone you love is making you hurt, isn't it? At least that's how I feel. My daughter is mature for her age (she's 10) and she's been testing me for about the past 6 mos. or so now. I can only imagine when the hormones really kick in.... I have only tried your tactic once, but insanely, it worked. Unfortunately I'm going to be a midget next to her, she's almost as tall as I am at 10, and I believe she's going to be a lot bigger than me.....I can see it now, her laughing hysterically as I try to hold her down. ::) Hang in there ladies. Pep |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jasmyn on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:20am Jennifer it is not easy because sometimes the urge is sooo big just to act like them and totally get out of control. Yell, Scream, Slap. But like you said Margi, that is the stuff that you as a parent will regret afterwards because it only makes the situation worse and leaves scars and bridges that can last a long time, if not forever. I always wanted to do things different to my Mother and maybe because I lost my kids before, I could sit and make a choice on how to handle situations. But it is still up to me to stick to my choice and not lose my resolve. Yes and it is better to go kick or break something else afterwards to get rid of my own frustration. I have a tin cup that I keep for that specific reason. Needless to say, it does not resemble a cup anymore! :) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by sandie99 on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:23am Jas, that's impressive. :) Sanna |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Margi on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:33am Patty, I have the same problem. Corinne is 5'9" and I'm 5'5". When she surpassed me in height at about age 12, I feared the same thing. However, I'm taller than MY mother and I'm tellin' ya, that woman still can scare the hell outta me. She's the best mother anyone could ever ask for, don't get me wrong, but she can still freeze water at a single glance. Learn how to do "the look", Patty...it will be your best defense. I can still make Corinne turn around across the room if I shoot her "the look". She tells me it still makes her shiver. ;) Here's an example of "the look" - my little granddaughter is already learning it!! One raised eyebrow and looking THROUGH you....works every time!! ;) http://pic11.picturetrail.com/VOL361/2036010/3944402/116523212.jpg |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Peppermint on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:51am on 10/27/05 at 11:33:55, Margi wrote:
I'm about 5'3" and she'll be short of 6 foot if not taller. One of the youngest girls on her dad's side of the family was 6'2" at 13. Scary. But isn't it annoying too? LOL. on 10/27/05 at 11:33:55, Margi wrote:
Oh I may not be tall... but my daughter knows "the look". She starts crying when I give her my look. Funny thing is all she usually gets is a diatribe. Then again maybe that's why she's crying. OMG, I must be lecturing her to death. OH NO. I'm my mother. ::) P.S. Margi, that is one gorgeous child!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:54am lol way too cute! No no, you don't understand, my daughter doesn't yell or scream or any of that. She treats me as if I am stupid, I am so beneath her, like I am dog crap stuck to her shoe, but better do everything for her, like cook her meals, drive her to her 3 hour a WEEK job, provide all her necessities, but shut up and not give one word of advice on any subject at all. Let her use everything in the house-phone, tv, my computer, etc, but not set any limitations on any thing at all because she is 18. and then.........that snotty, haughty, "look". Hug her and tell her I love her? When she sticks her nose in the air and walks past me with a shit eating grin on her haughty-assed face? I don't think so. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Peppermint on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:00pm 18 huh? Brrrrrrrrrrrrr... What happens if you don't do all that stuff you autormatically do for her? Not being a wiseass, just asking if you've ever done anything along those lines. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by minnie on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:00pm Minnie is my nickname and when I'm in trouble with my mom she calls me by my real name [smiley=yikes.gif] .Of course now when she wants my attention I find her calling me by it.My Grandmother and Mom and I all share the same first name mom likes it I say [smiley=hurl.gif] needless to say the name ends with me...I know I'm getting off topic... Posted by: Margi Posted on: Today at 8:54am Man, can I relate to THIS subject!! I'll join the others and advise you to hang in there, it DOES get better. I firmly believe that all teenage daughters should be rounded up and sent to an island far, far away for about 6 years (from age 13 on...). I always said my girls would go to military school.(female that is)until I pick out a nice suitable husband for them ....do you think it'll work [smiley=huh.gif] :-/ ::) uh notice except for Brian,Carl and Tom M it's all women many moms responding I think sometimes the teen girls have Daddy wrapped around their little finger.I know of at least one that does LOL. I say this as a Daddies girl myself I was even his Birthday present .now planning your birthdate like that must have been quite a feat I had to come early the dr. said no way would I be born on September 11th..boy was he wrong..minnie who was even stubborn back then [smiley=smug.gif] . |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by E-Double on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:05pm Here's my card ;)........ http://im1.shutterfly.com/procserv/47b5ce06b3127cce948a50ae2cd200000016103QasWrlwx0 ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:16pm mint, I told her last night - after listening to her making plans to go TRICK OR TREATING (not making plans to get a job or get driving lessons but go freakin trick or treating!) that her free ride ends right now. Her usual reaction: grin that shitty grin like she has some secret knowledge that makes her better than me, stick the nose in the air, go to her room. Tomorrow morning she'll expect to get in the car with us and ride to town for her "art lesson" which is 2 days a week for a couple hours with a local artist, a guy who gives her tips on painting. Then she'll spend the rest of the afternoon sitting on her ass in front of a puter at the library playing on myspace.com or renting out bellydancing lesson videos. again, so productive! Then home to the phone to call her friends. and not even a thanks for the ride or an offer for gas money for the 2 hour round trip. So tomorrow- no ride. I'll tell her she can call a cab. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Margi on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:20pm on 10/27/05 at 11:54:27, JenniferD wrote:
oh yes, honey - but I do understand. Corinne treated me EXACTLY the same way. I think they all share the same secret manual on How to Treat Your Mother Like Crap. Looking back, though? I believed (until I had a daughter of my own, just like Mum predicted) that my mother was an idiot, sent here just to drive ME crazy. It wasn't until I was about 20 (when I had my daughter) that my mother actually smartened up. Now, I'm realizing that my mother didn't change at all. It was me that changed. When Corinne was carrying Savannah, I think she came to the same realization actually. We were driving in the car and my suddenly human daughter said to me "Mum, I have to say something. I need to apologize for being such an a-s-s-hole when I was a kid. I honestly don't know how you put up with me." Jennifer, hearing those words made all the uglies of the teen years completely disintegrate. I know it's probably empty promises to you right now, and that you think your daughter will never like you. But, before you know it, you will suddenly become her best friend. And...word of advice here? It's SO worth the wait... Coping strategies? Don't buy into her moods. Don't let her see that her attitude bugs you. Get busy doing other things. Stop doing the things she expects you to do. She's 18. She can cook. She can drive. She can clean. Might shock the hell out of her if you stop doing these things for her but, Patty's right. Try it. When she expects you to be there doing a chore for her, announce to her suddenly that you're busy, that's she'll have to do it for herself this time. And then...leave. Even if you just go to the mall by yourself and walk around. Try it. ;) and one more thing: your house, your rules. Now...she may just choose to NOT live at your house and trust me, it WILL rip your guts out if she makes that decision, but you have to give her the freedom of choice at this age. With freedom of choice also comes consequences. It's the consequences that will teach her the lessons she needs to learn. Your job is done, Mom - she's not going to be open to learning anything more from you for a few years yet. Now is the time you have to sit back and watch the seeds you've planted in her, sprout and hopefully come to fruition. Scary as hell and the poopy part of being a mom - but...it's all part of the deal, honey. God, I just can't shut up about this!! LOL You HAVE to stop doing things for her. Honestly, you're crippling her by not letting her do things for herself. We all want our kids to be independant. How's she going to learn to fly with you standing on her foot, Mom? Sure, she'll fall a few times - but that's how she'll learn, too. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by E-Double on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:31pm One word........ Contingencies Set them and follow through! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jasmyn on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:34pm Margi what blue eyes that kiddo has! She already has looks that will kill! ;;D Quote:
Wisdom at its best. My two: Roxanne http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/jazzdebeer/roxannessnaps005.jpg Dominique http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a109/jazzdebeer/Copyofdomincasual003.jpg |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Woobie on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:39pm kids are highly over=rated. ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Margi on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:41pm Wow, gorgeous girls, Jas - just like Mom! The mother in me, however, sees that I Love boys on the sweatpants, and the belly shirts. ::) Kinda makes mothers' blood run cold, doesn't it? Big hugs and knowing smiles to you, Jasmyn. Keep up the fabulous work your doing with your girls. THESE are the important years. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by gfdfirefighter on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:42pm I have two daughters 18 and 20 they have both been out of the house for 6 months both have been pretty good for the most part. They Share an apartment in the City they seem to like it there they both got tired of driving mountain roads. my oldest works 2 jobs to make ends meet but we still seem to make her auto insurance payment. My younger one seems to be the responsible one she has a job and looks foreward to going to beauty collage. So things do get better 16 seems to be the rebel age. Hand in there Smiley |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:47pm on 10/27/05 at 12:20:08, Margi wrote:
Margi , you have given me the best advice I have ever been given EVER. Thank you. I'm going to share this with my hubby when we get home tonight. You're right, she is not open to learning anything new from me now. She needs to apply what I've already taught her... if she was even listening at all. Its time to find out. Hugs, Jen |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 27th, 2005, 12:47pm I totally agree with Margi on almost everything she said. About the treating you like dog crap. My oldest boy did not know me at 16-19 years of age. He was embarrased to be seen with me. It hurt but guess what he is 23 on his own and he now hugs me to death and loves to be with me. I am sure some of us were like that too. I never separated my affection from my mom so I was hurt by my son's temporary reaction. Anyways people don't come with instructions. Being a parent is the hardest thing anyone will have to do bar none. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Peppermint on Oct 27th, 2005, 1:44pm on 10/27/05 at 12:31:00, E-Double wrote:
Eric... That is the word of the day!! I agree with Margi, and I'm glad you do too Jen! I started doing this a lot more now with my daughter because of the way she's been changing. She hates it, but she can make small dinners now and will even offer if she's hungry and I haven't gotten to it yet. :o It only took a couple of times of eating really late to get to that. One down, umpteen more to go... lol. I know, easier said than done, but the results I think will be worth the creepy grins and attitude. And you'll get to have a chance to take a breath. (That will be so worth it alone!). Good luck Jen, us MOMs rule! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jasmyn on Oct 27th, 2005, 1:48pm You said it Pep: Quote:
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Oct 27th, 2005, 4:48pm It fully explains why some species eat their young! ;;D Jas - your girls are beautiful and Margi - that Savannah is gonna give her Mom a run for her money one day. Jennifer - hang in there girl - trust me, my girls are 32 and 33 and there was a time that I didn't figure on letting them live out their teenage years. They're now wonderful, responsible, young women with families of their own and I'm very proud of them. My motto: "Grandchildren - they are our best revenge" Carol |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by nani on Oct 27th, 2005, 4:59pm There's a place to trade them in? Wow! Seriously, I had the mother from hell, the daughter from hell (now 30 and a good friend) and mooshie, at almost 10, has really given those two a run for their money. I'm scared... pray for me. But really, Jennifer and Jas and all of us who are or about to suffer through this.... It will get better. Keep your sense of humor, pray for patience, and don't let 'em push your buttons. Keep your wits about you, and it will all pass. I found lots of tequila helped sometimes, too. ;) I always remind myself that the very things that make me crazy are the things that will make them phenomenal women. edited to add: eat their young! LMAO Carol! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Donna_D. on Oct 27th, 2005, 5:08pm True Story. 1985. Me=17 years old. Topic of conversation. Me being allowed to go away for the weekend with my “girlfriends”. Me: (screaming) I don’t care WHAT you say!! I am old enough to make my own decisions and I’M GOING !! My Mom: (said sweetly) Honey, it’s ok…you can go. But I ought to warn you…I’m going in the house..and your hair is going with me. Me:Yeah, like totally fer sure, Mom!! (Mom grabs two handfuls of my hair and drags me in the house. Needless to say…I didn’t get to go where I wanted.) To this day I respect my mom for all the trouble she manged to keep me out of all those years. 2005. My daughter=5 years old. Topic of conversation. Her being allowed to play outside unsupervised. My daughter: (screaming) I don’t care WHAT you say!! I am old enough to make my own decisions and I’M GOING !! Me: (said sweetly)Honey, it’s ok…you can go. But I ought to warn you…I’m going in the house..and your hair is going with me. My daughter: What-eveeeeeerrrrrrrrr!! (Fortunately my daughter believed me and came inside without incident.) Dear Lord, not only have I become my mother but I too have been the recipient of the “Mother’s Curse”. Why do I feel like I stepped smack dab off in the middle of the Twilight Zone? DD |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rextangle on Oct 27th, 2005, 5:09pm USE CONDOMS!!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by LeLimey on Oct 27th, 2005, 5:25pm Rexie so where were you with the good advice when I NEEDED it?! ::) Carole I damn near chocked at "eat their young" .. its too true! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rextangle on Oct 27th, 2005, 5:40pm You all want to reproduce and shit, and then you end up with something you can't handle. I don't like babies. They all look like little space aliens with the bonus drool and crap loaded diapers. They scream, poop, puke and make everyone around miserable. Before you know it, your house looks like a clown redecorated it and your place is infested with ponies, unicorns, dinosaurs, dolls and stupid plastic toys that you're dying to smash cause they squeek and make horrible noises. Your walls are covered with abstract crayon art that's supposed to look like mommy and daddy. I've seen modern art that looks better than this crap! Then everytime you go somewhere, you have to carry half a ton of shit like diapers, bottles, toys, drool rags, ass rags, lotion, food, blankets, strollers and some kind of bed for the little turd because he's gonna need a freakin nap when he's done crying for 2 straight hours... fuck this! I spent 10 hours on a plane loaded with crying babies recently and I tell you what.. I was so fucking close to light up a cigarette. Why should I be tortured by someone's "OOPS, I didn't pull out in time". I didn't do it!Fuck. I ain't got that kind of time or patience. I sure don't have the money either. I can't hardly handle the cat. The poopbox itself is a guaranteed pukefest... why bother? There are way too many freakin babies all over to bug the shit out of me. I don't need that kind of agravation at home. Fuck it. You all got what you deserve. THINK AND THEN SCREW, not the other way around. Too many "OOPSES" out there... and at the risk of repeating myself... USE CONDOMS!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by LeLimey on Oct 27th, 2005, 6:00pm The above message was brought to you by Rex's father.. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Woobie on Oct 27th, 2005, 6:12pm LMAO Helen! [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:40pm I am fuckin LAUGHIN MY ASS OFF HELEN!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Donna_D. on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:44pm on 10/27/05 at 18:00:28, LeLimey wrote:
[smiley=spit.gif] Helen...you are truly a comedic genius. Rex, believe it or not I felt the same way about kids....until I h ad my own. It's magical. DD |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by broomhilda on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:47pm on 10/27/05 at 18:00:28, LeLimey wrote:
[smiley=laugh.gif] [smiley=crackup.gif] TY Helen I needed that, LMFAO!!!Brilliant! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rextangle on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:30pm on 10/27/05 at 19:44:55, Donna_D. wrote:
I don't believe in that kind of magic. So, what you're saying is poop becomes a nice and delightul fragrance? Screaming and crying magically turns to a beautiful and soothing melody? And vomit becomes a piece of art? No way. Not buying it. No magic there, but it's nice to know that you're able to fool yourself that well;;D And yes, my father would probably agree with what I wrote. I'm a fuckin OOPS too. He already told me. Let it rock! [smiley=headbanger.gif] Sincerely childless and happy to be, Rex |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Gator on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:54pm To each his own, Rex. You are making the decision that is right for you. Cool. Me, I wouldn't trade my three boys for love nor money and there is NO WAY in the universe I would EVER wish my grand daughter away. When she looks up and sees me coming, she throws her hand up and yells, "Paw paw" it just thrills me to no end. Now she's singing the Barney song and you know what? It isn't nearly as annoying coming from a 2 year old as it is coming from a purple dinosaur suit. She sits there on my knee and sways from side to side singing "I love you" "You love me" That's all she knows so far, but it's cute as hell to watch. Just melts my heart. No, kids aren't for everyone. No doubt about that. Raising them is not a 24/7 picnic either, but as I grow older I can't look back and say I'd change a thing, except maybe be home a whole lot more that I was. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rextangle on Oct 27th, 2005, 10:10pm Well Mike, I'm sure you are thrilled and I'm happy for you. Now if I could have a kid who turns 18 when he pops out, sign me on! ;;D |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 27th, 2005, 10:19pm Man, you guys are making me nervous. My daughter is only 5, and i am scared shitless of the days when she wants to wear a belly shirt, or tight jeans. Im not gonna be able to hack it, let alone if she comes home all wired from the newest drug and brings home a boyfriend that is wearing a Tshirt that says "Pimp Hoes for Meth". I'll probably freak. I dont think its very fair to use the "my house my rules" line. Thats just not fair, and its penalizing the kid for being young. I remember growing up and hearing that and feeling like i was a guest in my mom's house. That's not cool. I couldnt WAIT for the day when I could move out....that didnt make us very close. Instead, i think its better to say "our house, Im the boss". Back when I was a kid though, parents could whoop a kids ass. If a parent said 'if i ever catch you doing that i will whoop your ass", that is a big deterrant. Today, if you say that, you will have repercussions from some freakin department. I had a DHS or DCS office or some freakin office tell me that i can not have my kid stand in the corner for more minutes than the kids age. If your kid is 6 years old, 6 minutes is the maximum punishment you can give before it is considered excessive and abusive. Do you fuckin believe that shit? Today, a 15 year old kid can look you in the eye and say" Im goin to a party and drinkin lots of beer and then i am gonna have a gang bang with the football team" and it is against the law to physically restrain the kid, and certainly against the law to spank a kid that age. If your kid told you that, the only legal thing you could do is try to find out where the party is and call the cops to have the alcohol confiscated. Whats a parent to do? BMonee |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by cootie on Oct 27th, 2005, 10:21pm Boy can I ever relate to you Jennifer.......daaaam !! You couldn't pay me enuff to go back to them days.....and it still haunts me and has left it's mark ! I think when all this starts up it is natures way of WEENING. The kids want more freedom and tell YOU want to do or what is rite or wrong and talk to you like your an old fashion'd idiot that doesn't know what cool is and what instincts are really telling them is.....strive to be able to support yourself and get the hell out. Instead sumthin gets messed up and they strive to want to live in your house there way without that drive they should have to want to get prepared and make plans to get out on there own so they CAN live there own life "when ready". They want it now and they want it too young these days. I had alot of trouble relateing with my daughter. She didn't care about anything and wouldn't take care of anything....phone tv and boys was her only interests. I gave up on her helping me decorate for holidays or bake or do any preparations.....got to where I did it all by myself. All she'd do is STARE at the tv in a trance and not keep moveing and kind of become useless. I could of turned it off but it didn't help.....then she'd complain it was off or the phone would ring. She could not be trusted to watch over my stuff when I was out......she paid no attention to anything needing done. I moved her out when she was old enuff to save my sanity.....did not want her undisireable freinds here that didn't work and ripped people off for a liveing or sold drugs. She fell on her face MULTIPLE times on her own......she didn't pay rent or bills once we stopped paying her rent. We said we'd d it for a few months to help her get started and she was working. Had her creep freinds there all the time and they ripped off everything......she'd get a new aprt and I'd pay the deposite and help her out with rent a bit longer and she'd do it again. Got kicked out of some places and trashed all of them. Then she got pregnant by a piro/torture finatic and I hope his son never gets like him but he is already showing signs. (he took off and she found someone else and got married but didn't know the new guy long or very well) She let the boy have candles or he took ones lit around the house.....hello......he went into the bathroom and caught himself on fire twice big time !!! The real dad burnt up alot of apt's when he was a kid and held his parents at gun point for 3 days cuz he wanted sumthing.....Angel met him soon after that. And he did ungodly things to animals. I am actually secretly afraid of this kid.....he is too quiet......not sure what to think. Now my daughter has 3 kids and her husband is at the bar 6 nites a week with NO intentions of changeing and leaves her home and she quit her two jobs and he lost his but FINEALLY got anouther one working 5 months a year. She recently called me and chew'd me out and threw a fit cuz I didn't come over for a birthday party and told me I had better start comeing around more often and be with them kids more often and she was MAD and upset I was not comeing !!! All the things she needs to tell her husband.....not me. She lives a few hours away.....she lets the kids RUN and disapear and is always behind on bills and in danger of looseing the house. We have enuff stress and kind of keep our distance. She complains about bill collectors as if they are picking on them and need to LEAVE THEM ALONE. So....that proves to me she still thinks nothing is her fault. The kids are adorable but no control and are allowed to do what they want where they want......talked to her on the phone not long ago and listen'd to them scream yell fight and cry for 3 solid hours. I had a migraine when I fineally got away and kind of stressed. Kids can make you or break you. Cracked and edgey Pam SORRY....got carried away.....touchy subject......I feel guilty the way I FEEL about her and at the same time I know I can't deal with her problems and choices and hate to see her just sit around the house and never do ANYTHING. Her and the husband do NOTHING....he prefers his bar time and not go home and put up with her and the kids he says. He seems like a decent guy and all but.......he is a jerk in nice guy clothing. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by ClusterChuck on Oct 28th, 2005, 1:02am I have always said wimmins are a pain in the ass ... even the young ones! AND as a father of four, two boys, 28 and 26; two girls, 19 and 17, I can vouch for the statement that girls are harder than boys. Still waiting for the 19 and 17 year olds to turn that magic corner and get responsible ... The 19 year old is in her own apartment (with shit head, her boyfriend) and she still thinks she knows everything. Damn I hope she doesn't get preggers yet!!! And then there is the Warden from Hell ... well, Deej doesn't have enough band width to go into that ... ;) Should have stopped at two kids .. ;) [smiley=laugh.gif] Chuck PS: Sarah and Stephanie, if you read this, I hope you know I am kidding .. Even though you are both SUPER pains in the ass, at times, I wouldn't give ya up fer nuttin!!! |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:23am Rex Thank God you recognize you should not have kids. Even if there is truth to what you said somehow when it comes from our own flesh and blood yes poop turns into art. Barney sounds like a diva etc.. I had a daughter who did crunk, ganga, ectasy, danced in bars, fights in the streets, facing a jail sentence and is finally calming down. Yes I sent her sassy self sailing with a punch but she has never mouthed off to me since and said she deserved it. And I LOVE her. I dont care what she did. I am there to pick up the pieces when no one else (save God) will. She also happens to be kind, genorous, adventurous, talented, and never boring. She is physically beautiful beyond belief as well. I LOVE her and my other two children as well. I am sorry if you never experienced a parents love like that . So what if you were oops. Two of my three were oops. Most of us were. But most of us were loved and return it to our children. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:29am B Monee. I agree with you. Things today are nuts. But I am not politically correct and I did not spare the rod. REad the above. I would let them take my kids and they can raise em if they see fit. I am not having bullshit under my roof point final. I know it sounds dual but in spite of the fact that my daughter left at 17 and I let her go her own way , she has seen what it is like out there and is coming around. The trick is that I am there to receive any prodigal children no matter what they did once they come to their senses. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by deltadarlin on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:34am on 10/27/05 at 22:19:54, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
And life is *fair*? If I pay the bills and provide a roof over your head, it is my *right* to use that line, "my house, my rules". Parenting is not a democracy where kids get to vote on the rules they want in their house. NOW, that being said, you can be a *reasonable* parent and discuss the *whyfors* of rules. Our (long haired redneck and me) daughter is 21, going on 22 and she still has to follow house rules, it's called *common courtesy*. on 10/27/05 at 22:19:54, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Not in this state (or pretty much most southern states). A friend of mine threatened to beat her 15 year old daughter's ass. Kid called the cops. Cops showed up, talked to the kid, then talked to the mom. Cops told mod and kid that if they were called out again, cop would lend mom belt. on 10/27/05 at 22:19:54, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
Establish the *fear* factor at a very early age ;)? I had a very healthy *fear* of my mother. I was not *scared* of her, but I was *afraid* of her response if I screwed up. The very best thing you can do is establish early on actions=consequences and stick to it. DO NOT ever back down from your kids if you know you're right and if you're wrong, be wise enough to admit it and apologize. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Lizzie2 on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:42am Haha This is a great thread!!! First off, Jennifer...I'm sorry your daughter is giving you so much trouble! I agree with everyone else about hanging in there...... Sanna - I'm like you. I never drank till I was in college. Never got a speeding ticket until my last year at Penn State when I was going home to take the GREs (test for grad school). I didn't do drugs. I didn't get pregnant. I didn't steal, lie, or any of those other bad things. However I'm sure I was a handful in my own way. I was most definitely a drama queen. (My mom would say..."WAS???" hehe Yeah...was. Now I'm a homebody and yet probably still some trouble. I'm financially independent except for the fact that I have not picked up my auto insurance tab yet, but don't worry...I'll get that soon enough! Hopefully after December when I'm 25 LOL I'm depressed that Margi and Pep grew taller than their Mom's. I'm 2 inches shorter...runt of the family! LOL Eric - Make sure we stay friends forever because I'm counting on you to help me survive having children. LOL Oh and maybe at some point when I'm an NNP we can join up forces. I am actually interestedd in being on the developmental committee at work so we should chat about a few things when you get the chance! Jas - Your words made me cry! So incredibly beautiful! You really are such a wonderful person and I'm sure you are such a wonderful mom. Lack of love creates a whole lot of problems in this world. Yeah, people can be total jackasses, but it's important to always remember love. I don't see enough love in the job I have, and I try not to think about what kind of homelives my kids are going home to! Rex....ROFL Kids are great. The poop is nothing compared to how great they are. Yeah they cry sometimes, but not all the time. And when they don't, they steal your heart and you can't ever get it back...they own it. I dont' even have kids but I've got a set of twins at work who own a piece of my heart for forever. :) Helen...You really are such a gem and so hilarious!!! :) Ahhh okay - I just got done spending the night taking care of 3 of these bundle of joys (2 boys, 1 girl)...so I'm going to sleep for myself! I actually can't wait to have kids someday...and I don't care what gender it is...I know I'll love it no matter what. :) Carrie :) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Lizzie2 on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:57am Rex darlin, Not all those screaming tykes are 'oopses' anyhow! The point is that some people should not have children. They just shouldn't. If you know you never want kids, that's good because nothing's worse than a kid born into a family that doesn't want it. And I mean no offense by that. It breaks my heart whenever I see it happen. One evening, I went into a couple's room with their baby and said what a beautiful baby he was. The dad said, "If you think he's that great, then you can have him." I was shocked and also heartbroken. Big time. I did want to take him...right then and there. I don't have anything to my name really, but I woulda given that kid a home with love. If you really and truly never want kids, have you had an operation? LOL Carrie :) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 28th, 2005, 8:02am Wow, what a can of worms I opened! Let me preface this post by saying that Hannah has given me my share of shit and I have struggled HARD to keep her from going past the point of no return. No drugs or sex probs and I guess for the most part she can be considered a "good girl", but we are talking attitude and POWER STRUGGLES FROM HELL! Defiant, got into wiccan crap, the 'omigod life sux and i'm dyin' goth crap, the 'i suffer greater sorrows than human kind has ever suffered' crap, the 'you don't understand' crap, the idiot friends crap. I did knock the ever lovin crap outta her when she was completely outta control and I was close to losing her to "the dark side"! Did I do it because I was angry and did nt care? NO! It was because I loved her enough to say enough of this shit, you are mine, like a frickin mother lion protectin her cub. She got a few scratches in the scuffle, but in the end, I got her back from the crap she was heading toward. That was when she was 12. The second major battle was at 16, but not nearly as bad as that one, but again a major change in her life. But now its a HUGE growing pain, not just for her but as I learned from margi, for me as well. I took my first steps toward that this morning- much to Hannah's shock. But we'll see how that goes. Would I change any of it and not have kids knowing what I know? Absolutely not. Would I do a better job parenting? I'd try. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Lizzie2 on Oct 28th, 2005, 8:08am Jennifer, I'm sure you did a wonderful job parenting....no regrets, hon!!! I didn't mean for my posts to make you feel bad. :( Just tired and highly opinionated about children this morning after having two born to mother's on methadone last night. Of course there are things about my parents that drive me absolutely nuts. Really freakin nuts...but I'm not going to write it here! The thing is though, they did a good job. My brother and I turned out to be good kids, and I know our entire family is very close. My mom tells us she had it easy...which is sweet to say, but I think she and my dad did a good job when we were growing up. All anyone can ask is that you try your best...there's no perfect standard. There's no roadmap. No directions as someone said above. And every kid is different. My brother and I are night and day, and yet my parents didn't do anything different in raising us. It's just the way we are. They've got personalities from the very start...and all anyone can do is try their hardest. :) Hang in there - I'm sending you all the good thoughts I got at the moment!! :) Carrie :) |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 28th, 2005, 8:18am Delta. I hear you and love you. I love the South too. A good ole fashioned Georgia ass whuppin would do a lot of people (not just kids) some good lol.... [smiley=laugh.gif] |
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Title: http:/Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by AussieBrian on Oct 28th, 2005, 8:22am on 10/27/05 at 08:54:08, Margi wrote:
This is where I live. http://www.ozoutback.com.au/postcards/postcards_forms/tsi_dauan_boigu/ Kindly ensure they're at least 16 years old. Happy to be of assistance, Brian. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 28th, 2005, 9:04am Carrie, your posts didn't make me feel bad at all, so don't worry one bit, k? I think the thing is, we all suck in some ways at parenting cuz there is no damn manual and our only example is our parents- who, we all know , SUCKED at being parents! Viciious cycle, but hey, each time it goes around, its gotta get a little better. I know Hannah's gonna take every rotten thing I've done and hopefully NOT do it with her kids. And I, in turn, hope her kids are EXACTLY LIKE HER. I HOPE SHE HAS TRIPLETS- GIRLS. THREE SETS OF THEM. But seriously, I did the best I could. I taught her morals. I taught her self-sufficiency. I taught her compassion. I taught her decency. I taught her selflessness. She seems to have forgotten all of it but when she does remember, she claims to have done it all for herself. Well, as of this this morning, its her turn to prove herself. Like I said earlier, we'll see what happens. Just like me, I know all the rest of y[all have done the veery best you could do too. In spite of all teh heartache parenting can cost, it really is worth it in the long run. |
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Title: Re: http:/Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 28th, 2005, 9:16am on 10/28/05 at 08:22:16, AussieBrian wrote:
Did I mention Han is a beauty queen? Did I mention you are a sick bastard? :P |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by sandie99 on Oct 28th, 2005, 10:08am on 10/27/05 at 18:00:28, LeLimey wrote:
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by cootie on Oct 28th, 2005, 12:30pm Mine 'started out' with that attitude stuff.........the other shit came later. And we did not spare the rod so to speak with her either.......we'd catch her lieing all the time and stealing and enuff was enuff. Everyone goes thru a faze as a teen I guess......some sort of independence thing in there own mind cuz they are getting to the age they WANT to make there own disicions but HOME is not the place......'there own' home someday will be Pam Sorry I unloaded.................who cares............... |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by JenniferD on Oct 28th, 2005, 12:48pm Unloaded???? Honey, we've ALL been unloading!!!! Thats how this whole thread got started- from my bitchin about my daughter! I had no idea we ALL had the same problems with daughters! But we've also all shared the same joys, tears, triumphs, accomplishments, tips for coping, tips to keep from slappin them silly, and ways to keep sayin I love you in spite of them. Keep on unloading. Its helping us all. Love and hugs, Jen |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Donna_D. on Oct 28th, 2005, 1:45pm on 10/27/05 at 22:19:54, BMoneeTheMoneeMan wrote:
BMonee, I've been thinking about that question for some time now. My answer to my child will be this... If my daughter begins to act like me when I was her age I am going to shave her head bald (so she won't WANT to go anywhere) and home school her (no socialization). Nothing wrong with a haircut and some good learnin' now is there ;;D . DD |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by gfdfirefighter on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:03pm Rex Iam laughing my ass off it make me think back to all that shit i had to carry around when they where babies. And that ten hour flight you where on. My oldest emptied a complete row on a plane when the change in cabin pressure got her she shit all over herself and me [smiley=laugh.gif] and it was stinky the guy next to us got up and went to the back of the plane. After our second we didn't need CONDUMS we flipped a coin MY WIFE LOST she's fixed IM Not ;;D Smiley |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jonny on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:12pm It could always be worse ;;D *Warning....Bad Language*!!! http://media.ebaumsworld.com/wmv/mean_mom.wmv |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by stevegeebe on Oct 28th, 2005, 7:48pm Jen..I wish I could offer something but I can't. I'm still trying to figure out what happened during my daughter's teen years. It was trying beyond my ability to explain. Maybe this..try not to blame yourself. You carry this cross and you may make it worse with decisions and reactions based on undeserved feelings. My daughter is 20 now and is getting better and beginning to find her way through. Still got a ways to go but compared to the recent past, it's cake. Lot of good thoughts by many. Good luck. Steve G |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by deltadarlin on Oct 28th, 2005, 9:26pm I read this and I realize just how lucky I am to have the daughter I have. Yeah, she's had her share of sorrows, but most of her bs caused her more pain that it caused us. She's another one that never smoked, didn't drink or do drugs, never stayed out late, didn't lie about where she was going and was home when she was told to be. She always understood that actions =consequences and if she screwed up, mama and daddy weren't going to bail her little ass out. She's 21 now and is and always has been the light of my life. She's a daughter that anyone would be proud of, excellent student, driven to excel and has plans that most of us would never even dream of undertaking. Now, if I can just get her to clean her bedroom :P Yeah, I screwed up somethings as a parent, but it all turns out for the best anyway. You do the best you can do and leave the rest to fate. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by MJ on Oct 29th, 2005, 1:18am Jumping in here While watching you girls talk about your girls I now understand why around here it is the generally accepted policy for the brides family to cover the costs of a wedding. It,s a bribe and plain and simple. |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Gator on Oct 30th, 2005, 2:08am on 10/29/05 at 01:18:42, MJ wrote:
Don't forget the dowry! LMAO |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Jonny on Oct 30th, 2005, 1:00pm http://www.i-am-bored.com/bored_link.cfm?link_id=12641 |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by rickyshot on Oct 30th, 2005, 7:43pm Hey Jonny. When that lady's darling grows up and gives her lip she can karate kick her , the backfoot instead of the backhand. I have taken care of kids like that for years and they are amazing. One of our orderlines married an amputee like the lady in the video. They were a nice looking couple. I moved from Michigan back to Atlanta so I don't know if they had kids or not. Way cool........... |
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Title: Re: Not ch related... trading in my daughter Post by Ree on Oct 31st, 2005, 6:35pm My favorite saying " Give your kids up for adoption and they will spend their lives looking for you"... ain't it the truth....... but the ones we keep they run from the love... and treat us like crrrrrrapppppola....... Welcome to my world..... I have a daughter that spews green slime and her head spins like the Exorcist's lead "REGAN" She is beautiful when she is asleep in her bed looks like an angel..... LOLOL... be well and know that when she becomes a parent she will love you like no other and need you even more..... Ree |
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