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Title: 2000 deaths Post by nani on Oct 26th, 2005, 10:28am This is not a commentary on my opinion of the war. Just something I saw on the front page today. :'( :'( :'( 2,000 total # of US military deaths in Operation Iraqi Freedom 1,846 # who've died since the President declared an end to major combat 68 percent of dead who were in the Army 25 percent of dead who were in the National Guard or reserves 1 percent of dead who were in the Air Force These are just US military numbers. Many, many more have died. Pray for peace, everyone. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by ZAIRA on Oct 26th, 2005, 10:30am ................................... so sad :'( |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by vig on Oct 26th, 2005, 10:33am and what are we getting for all this? It was a bad mistake and it was made for all the wrong reasons. George and Dick and their families and friends are getting rich while the rest of us are being gouged. Any idea of how much harm was done to our reputation internationally? Will anyone ever hold Bush/Republicans accountable? SAD! |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by zanychef on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:13am our figures while not as dramatic as the american ones are just as bad if you hold bush accountable can i go shoot tony blair?? ;;D and all coz of oil >:( >:( >:( zany |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Hirvimaki on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:45am on 10/26/05 at 11:13:58, zanychef wrote:
And there is something inherently wrong with ensuring the freedom of the oil trade on which the industrial economies (both yours and mine) depend? Defending commerce is not a dishonorable cause. Upholding the international principal of economic freedom best serves our interests in the long run. A proper government upholds the interests of its citizens (and economics is a vital one) in its conduct toward other nations. Hirvimaki-Isi |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 26th, 2005, 11:46am on 10/26/05 at 11:13:58, zanychef wrote:
If that is the case then why am I still paying 2.65 a gallon for petrol? |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by sandie99 on Oct 26th, 2005, 12:24pm :'( |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by rextangle on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:32pm on 10/26/05 at 11:46:17, thomas wrote:
I was just wondering the same thing Thomas... |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by ArCane on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:39pm on 10/26/05 at 11:46:17, thomas wrote:
Because the oil companies know we will pay that much for it. We are all suckers. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:40pm on 10/26/05 at 11:46:17, thomas wrote:
Thomas, its not about stockpiling a warehouse full of free oil, its about making MONEY from oil. Thats why. BMonee |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:44pm This morning barrels of oil were over 62.20 each, that is contolled by the Saudis. Not the Bushies. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by BMoneeTheMoneeMan on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:46pm No, the price is controlled by supply and demand. The US invasion in the middle east along with actual increased demand has caused prices to rise. The saudis can only get however much someone wants to pay. Just like in the stockmarket, unrest or uncertainty is a bad thing. BMonee |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by BobG on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:49pm on 10/26/05 at 11:46:17, thomas wrote:
Ask the Vice President Dick. Might have something to do with a trust fund at Halliburton. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 26th, 2005, 1:51pm on 10/26/05 at 13:49:25, BobG wrote:
on 10/26/05 at 13:44:00, thomas wrote:
Oh yeah, and as far as accountability is concerned, how about the U.N. Kofi Annon's son was directly involved in the corrupt oil for food program with Saddam. All of the resolutions passed by the U.N. that Saddam thumbed his nose at. It doesn't matter really does it, this country is divided and will remain that way forever because that is what the politicians want, they have you right where they want you. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by vig on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm well, let's see.... Do you want to look at Bush's relationship with the Saudi's? reallY? |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by totka2 on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:15pm on 10/26/05 at 11:46:17, thomas wrote:
Hungarian price is about $ 1.35 ... ... per liter :-/ |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:28pm on 10/26/05 at 14:15:31, vig wrote:
No, because I know he kisses their collective asses just like every president after Ronald Reagan has. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by BobG on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:45pm on 10/26/05 at 14:15:31, vig wrote:
Type Sheikh Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahyan house into your Google. 2000 (yep thousand) rooms. It's wonderfil what $2.70 a gallon gas will buy. He's the former president of United Arab Emirates and Ruler of Abu Dhabi. If you have dial up connection forget it. The house is too big. It would take a hour to load. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by kcopelin on Oct 26th, 2005, 2:58pm 2,000 dead, enough said. Politics and pontificating won't bring them back. Pray for the widows and the children and those who remain in harms way. Soldiers serve to defend our right to disagree and to vote. Don't waste it. Vote, demonstrate, speak your mind, use the press, and pray. Those are all freedoms we have because of people who serve. This particular war may or may not seem acceptable to you. The individuals who have died are not responsible for it. Every Wednesday a group of women in our community wear black and stand together in silent vigil for those lost. We pray for peace. I served, and retired from, the US Air Force. Those of us who have served, and have seen war first hand, know the cost. 2000 dead. Enough. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 26th, 2005, 3:28pm on 10/26/05 at 14:58:57, kcopelin wrote:
I did serve and support this war, for the humanitarian effect alone. People everywhere should be free. Hell, freedom should be something everyone gets a chance to taste. And those that don't appreciate it, should get it taken away, because it is too precious a commodity to waste. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by vig on Oct 26th, 2005, 4:25pm on 10/26/05 at 15:28:00, thomas wrote:
well said, Thomas |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Bob P on Oct 26th, 2005, 4:45pm What a bunch of liberal putzes! Same old crybaby shit. I pay half of what the Europeans have paid for gas for years, oh boo hoo! |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Jonny on Oct 26th, 2005, 7:14pm on 10/26/05 at 10:28:06, nani wrote:
Malicious compassion? |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thebbz on Oct 26th, 2005, 7:26pm WoW Just take your eye off the ball one second. Look we agree that first and foremost basic human rights come first. We support the worst of the worst when it comes to leaders treat their people. China, Saudi Arabia, UAE, the list goes on. We support these people by buying their oil and other products. We turn a blind eye when we buy cheaper textiles from China in Walmart. The UN turned a blind eye to Bosnia,Sudan,Etheopia,Iraq, the list goes on while ethnic cleansing and mass genocide and envonmental genocide was going on and they all new it. We should all be spanked. The inhumanity of humanity makes me want to puke. We should look for more common large issues to rally behind instead of infighting about details of yesterday. There I said it, Dont mean to offend. jb |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by kcopelin on Oct 26th, 2005, 8:53pm Whoa, I've never been called a liberal before. Praying for peace is something I do because I have two sons. Our family has a long history of military service, and I served proudly. I would rather, as a mom, not see either of my sons go to war. Just a mom thing I guess-not liberal. If they have to go, I want them to kick butt, and never have their hands tied like my Dad's were in Vietnam. On the other hand-watching women casting ballots in an election after years of having to hide their faces...seeing schools and places of worship and restraunts opened...Freedom, costly, and yeah, a human need. IMHO kathy |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by minnie on Oct 26th, 2005, 9:09pm 2000 souls lost.flying with the Angels God bless each and everyone one them and may their loved ones have the peace of knowing they died hero's RIP My nephews guest book... http://www.legacy.com/Guestbook.asp?Page=GuestBook&PersonId=3193264 WE love you Christopher... You wanna do something send a care package to a soldier ANYWHERE overseas that are away from their loved ones.Find a place to send teddy bears to the kids who's parents will be away this x-mas with a note saying Santa's proud of your Mommy/Daddy.I do know many on this board already have.Jonny's one I definately know has sent packages thank you Bro..... Minnie |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Charlie on Oct 27th, 2005, 2:42am Very sad. 2,000 of some of some of the best young Americans killed---mostly after W's: "mission accomplished." As was said in the current movie about Ed Murrow (haven't seen it yet though, but the quote is true) It's senseless to fight for freedom overseas by neglecting it at home. Bush put us in a really scary place in Iraq. Americans can't get out, or they risk turning the country into a terrorist haven. Yet his war, which has not accomplished any of its purposes, swallows ever more American lives and inflames ever more Muslim hearts. Nice. Don't worry though We'll handle those countries governed by a select few, backed by the military and run my fundamentalists....oh, that's us. Charlie http://www.netsync.net/users/charlies/gifs/rub eyes.gif |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by deltadarlin on Oct 27th, 2005, 6:57am on 10/27/05 at 02:42:35, Charlie wrote:
Charlie, have you been reading the news? I don't think there's much worry of Iraq turning into a terrorist haven, it already is. on 10/27/05 at 02:42:35, Charlie wrote:
Forget September 11? The radical Muslims don't need an *excuse* to be inflamed. Their hatred of anything American does that. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by nani on Oct 27th, 2005, 7:50am on 10/26/05 at 19:14:35, Jonny wrote:
It's malicious to grieve for 2000 lost young lives? If I'd started this thread saying what a noble cause they died for, you'd be :'( :'( :'( right along with me, and I'd be patriotic. I'm sorry... this isn't political to me. This is about war being as senseless as any other act of violence. Some wars are fought for noble causes, this one isn't one of them. I pray for anyone there or who has a loved one there. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by minnie on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:01am Nani I know there was no malicious intent to your post.For better or worse we must remember that these are NOT statistics they are lives lost ,families destroyed and no matter how you view this war and yes I believe everyone is entitled to their opinion.It is good to remember that as a country we must support our troops that do their job no matter what their personal opinions are.The 2000 th death has been promoted alot but seldom more then as a number.I did see on the news 2000 pairs of army boots in a memorial many belonging to the soldier being memorialized.I know the 10th of November the airbourne division of fort Braqgg will have another memorial for the divisions fallen including Christopher..... Minnie |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Carl_D on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:12am :'( God bless those who gave the ultimate sacrifice for their country. Freedom is not free, and without the dedication and service of our military, we wouldn't be free either. Peace, Carl D |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by thomas on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:17am I didn't see anything malicious in your first post. But you do have to wonder what the tone would be if President "Free-Willy" Clinton, had invaded Iraq in order to free the people of Iraq from tyranny? |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by maffumatt on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:33am He wouldn't have done it, France would have told him he couldn't ....................... |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Gator on Oct 27th, 2005, 5:39pm I do believe this war was necessary if not inevitable and normally I would be neck deep in this debate. With my son's unit re-deploying to Iraq very soon, the only thing I can really bring myself to say about this is God bless and protect our brave military members and be with the families of those who died. |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Jonny on Oct 27th, 2005, 6:39pm on 10/27/05 at 07:50:48, nani wrote:
on 10/27/05 at 07:50:48, nani wrote:
Huh? ;;D |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by minnie on Oct 27th, 2005, 8:13pm on 10/27/05 at 17:39:36, Gator wrote:
--------------------------------------------------------------------sorry to hear your son's unit is re-deploying.I will keep them all in my prayers what unit is he in ? please let him know we're all proud of him for all he's doing.Also let his family know their not forgotten does he have a wife or kids? It's so hard to see them go.best to you all Love Minnie,April and Beth |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by Charlie on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:04pm Quote:
The Republican Congress would have run him through a ringer. From what we see now, it's clear that they will do anything to keep a seat. All the luck in the world to your son Mike. Charlie |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by vig on Oct 27th, 2005, 9:27pm on 10/27/05 at 09:17:25, thomas wrote:
George didn't go to Iraq in order to free the people of Iraq from tyranny, he went there to get the weapons of mass destruction that threatened our safety. yes, it's a bonus. ;;D |
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Title: Re: 2000 deaths Post by CHTom on Oct 27th, 2005, 11:09pm on 10/27/05 at 21:27:59, vig wrote:
There never were any-even Georgie Boy admitted it. |
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