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(Message started by: snapt on Sep 5th, 2005, 5:37pm)
Title: try this works 4 me
Post by snapt on Sep 5th, 2005, 5:37pm
snapt@msn.com
iv tried going into detail bout how this came about but fukit lets get it to the people in pain. u will need a bullworker (type that bends spring handle either side ) i started with a belt an hav been succsessful everytime in quelling the beast use it while outanabout. i do 20 bends above my head then 20 stretches belt above head streatch outwards so u can feel yor lats working. 2 reps of each switched off jus like that the extra set is 4 good measure sorry glaxo nothing 4 u this time round
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Grandma_Sweet_Boy on Sep 5th, 2005, 5:39pm
So - - - - now you're built like Man Mountain Dean - but tell us this - do you actually have CH or just some spare time on your hands.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Redd715 on Sep 5th, 2005, 5:54pm
[smiley=slowlaugh.gif]
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Charlie on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:00pm
http://subscribe.smileygenerator.us/new/albums//fried_smiley.gif

?

Charlie
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by pubgirl on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:08pm
That ain't no Brit whatever the flag do say.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Jonny on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:09pm
As the brain swells ;;D
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Redd715 on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:10pm

on 09/05/05 at 18:09:12, Jonny wrote:
As the brain swells ;;D


Or the stomach churns....... [smiley=huh.gif]
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by LeLimey on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:10pm
Might be a word wot rhymes with Brit Wendy..
you know how good I am at this poetreee stuff!
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by alienspacebabe on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:52pm
what is a bullworker?
i can think of several possibilities... but they definitely wouldn't be used in public.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by cootie on Sep 5th, 2005, 6:54pm
Doesn't viagra do about the same thing..........BS-master Pam
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by jcmquix on Sep 5th, 2005, 7:00pm
http://www.reverendfun.com/add_toon_info.php?date=20030807&language=e
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by pattik on Sep 5th, 2005, 7:04pm
My question is:  does one need the shiney, stretchy workout clothes to help get rid of the HA? ;;D
http://www.bullworker.co.jp/top/image/bullworker.jpg
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by don on Sep 5th, 2005, 8:26pm

Quote:
do you actually have CH or just some spare time on your hands.


ROFLMMFAO!

If you have spare time I would suggest you get "hooked on phonix".

ROF!
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by sandie99 on Sep 6th, 2005, 12:57am
Is it just me or is this another t we're having in here...? ::)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by giffy76 on Sep 6th, 2005, 7:29am
A bull worker. isn't that the guy that retrieves siemen from bulls for artificial insemination?
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 6th, 2005, 7:31am
Wonder how much a bullworker will cost us.  Hmmmmm.  I'm sure we'll find out soon.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by LeLimey on Sep 6th, 2005, 7:43am
Sandy I didn't think you could still get them so I looked them up and lo and behold, there is a whole official bullworker website dedicated to them! They cost about £75 (not inc any potential P&P) which is approx $110  :o
Sheesh..

Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Langa on Sep 6th, 2005, 7:47am
Sigh....

Langa
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Sep 6th, 2005, 7:58am
What next???
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by LeLimey on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:02am
Space Dust!
or pop rocks or whatever you used to call it!
If we are picking cure's from the 80's thats my choice!! ;;D (Sorry.. just pissing myself laughing here at the idea of space dust in a ch attack!! Nearly as bloody funny as trying to life a bullworker over my head WITHOUT lobbing it through a window!)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:12am
Bullwinkle?? How is that supposed to work?

http://www.internationalhero.co.uk/b/bullwinkle.jpg
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Bob P on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:47am
Snapt,

Strenious exercise at the first sign of an attack works as an abortive for many people.  Some run, some bicycle, some do squats,push-ups, jumping jacks.  Whether it's due to a redirection of blood flow, release of endorphins or increased O2 intake is still up for debate but it does work for many.

During my cluster 4 years ago, I aborted over 60 attacks within 10 minutes using the technique.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by don on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:53am
Geeze Bob. Just blow your nose.

Only men get sinus headaches.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by seasonalboomer on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:57am

on 09/06/05 at 08:47:57, Bob P wrote:
Snapt,

Strenious exercise at the first sign of an attack works as an abortive for many people.  Some run, some bicycle, some do squats,push-ups, jumping jacks.  Whether it's due to a redirection of blood flow, release of endorphins or increased O2 intake is still up for debate but it does work for many.

During my cluster 4 years ago, I aborted over 60 attacks within 10 minutes using the technique.


But Bob, nowhere do you indicate that the enhanced results from using the "Bullworker" did the job......
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Bob P on Sep 6th, 2005, 10:32am

Quote:
But Bob, nowhere do you indicate that the enhanced results from using the "Bullworker" did the job......
Nither does Snapt.  His streneous exercise of choice is a bullworker.  I know a guy who uses a stationary bike to good results.  I did squats until my thighs burned.

When I first signed the Guestbook here, about 6 years ago, the guy who signed just before me said that running up the hill behind his house aborted his attacks.  He'd been running up that hill for 20 years.

You guys are getting a little trigger happy here.  Maybe you should go make fun of those people who claim that eating mushrooms will stop your clusters?

edited to change things to thighs (the burning thing was taken care of by penicillin)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by seasonalboomer on Sep 6th, 2005, 10:37am

on 09/06/05 at 10:32:17, Bob P wrote:
I did squats until my things burned.


And what "things" were those?  
[smiley=laugh.gif]
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by cootie on Sep 6th, 2005, 10:53am
I didn't know he had 'things' ! Bad mood submissive Pam  ;;D
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Melissa on Sep 6th, 2005, 10:53am
snapt,

I'm very glad to hear that you've found something to abort your attacks and hope that someone out there gets the same relief because you cared to share.

Take care and I hope that the ch's will disappear forever.

:)mel
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by CHTom on Sep 6th, 2005, 11:26am

on 09/06/05 at 10:53:41, Melissa wrote:
snapt,

I'm very glad to hear that you've found something to abort your attacks and hope that someone out there gets the same relief because you cared to share.

Take care and I hope that the ch's will disappear forever.

:)mel


Ditto from me, snapt.

To the trigger happy bunch:  think of the hurt you can cause someone who posts here for the first time and is immediately attacked.  Is this being supportive to other sufferers?  Shame on you, where is your sense of decency?  I doubt that you'd want your children to read some of the vile postings that I've read when you are attacking those you label as "Trolls".  I think that if there weren't some Trolls around you'd invent one-those threads get more responses than any other threads and they degenerate into a deluge of disgusting, filthy, obscene language-from men and women-to the point of pathology.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Margi on Sep 6th, 2005, 11:39am
Hi Snapt,

Thanks so much for sharing your success with us.  Glad to hear you've found something that helps you!  Aerobic exercise does help a lot of people.  You might be a really good candidate for oxygen therapy if you're one of the lucky ones that this kind of treatment (oxygenating the blood like you're doing) helps.  Keep us posted.



on 09/06/05 at 10:32:17, Bob P wrote:
When I first signed the Guestbook here, about 6 years ago, the who signed just before me said that running up the hill behind his house aborted his attacks.  He'd been running up that hill for 20 years.


Wow, poor guy.  Did he ever reach the top?

Sorry to hear about your burning things, Bob.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by seasonalboomer on Sep 6th, 2005, 11:46am

on 09/06/05 at 11:26:17, CHTom wrote:
Ditto from me, snapt.

To the trigger happy bunch:  think of the hurt you can cause someone who posts here for the first time and is immediately attacked.  Is this being supportive to other sufferers?  Shame on you, where is your sense of decency?  I doubt that you'd want your children to read some of the vile postings that I've read when you are attacking those you label as "Trolls".  I think that if there weren't some Trolls around you'd invent one-those threads get more responses than any other threads and they degenerate into a deluge of disgusting, filthy, obscene language-from men and women-to the point of pathology.


you're so sensitive Tom, so easily offended, the many fragile one's on these boards should look to you as their shepherd, or their protector... whatever dude.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Melissa on Sep 6th, 2005, 11:56am

on 09/06/05 at 11:39:22, Margi wrote:
Sorry to hear about your burning things, Bob.

I'm not. [smiley=laugh.gif]


;;D
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Margi on Sep 6th, 2005, 12:01pm
Now, Mel, was that nice?  ;)

Times like this, I really miss Jack Boyd's snappy comebacks.  Drummer would have had a heyday with Bob and his burning things.  I think Hub probably would have brought marshmallows.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by don on Sep 6th, 2005, 12:07pm

Quote:
Shame on you, where is your sense of decency?  I doubt that you'd want your children to read some of the vile postings that I've read when you are attacking those you label as "Trolls".


Hey Tom

STFU

Or was that to vile for ya?
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by alienspacebabe on Sep 6th, 2005, 12:13pm

on 09/06/05 at 10:32:17, Bob P wrote:
You guys are getting a little trigger happy here.  Maybe you should go make fun of those people who claim that eating mushrooms will stop your clusters?


Not making fun - I have no idea what a bullworker is....
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Bob P on Sep 6th, 2005, 12:51pm
Bullworker = http://www.thebullworker.com/

And here's that guy's post from the archives:

Quote:
I'm 78 and have suffered with cluster headaches since I was around 31 years old. In the early days, doctors didn't seem to understand them. There was little one could do but suffer. If I had not been a Christian and had a family, I would never have reached 40. Then one night I got so mad that I ran up this steep hill behind my house. When I reached the top, I noticed that the headache was gone. I've been running that hill for 25 or 30 years whenever I get a cluster headache, and it works. Now, I am thankful to my VA doctor, Barbara L. Murphy, at the VA Clinic in Sayre, PA., where I went at the onset of my last season of headaches. She put me on the right dosage of Prednisone, and I didn't have to go through the whole season. I have gone as long as two years between seasons. But usually I have one or two seasons of headaches a year.
Elwood G. Ellis <forbestj@hotmail.com>
Towanda, PA USA
Tuesday, January 05, 1999 at 21:10:51 (EST)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by don on Sep 6th, 2005, 2:43pm

Quote:
I did squats until my thighs burned.


Fess up.

It wasn't your thighs was it?
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by rextangle on Sep 6th, 2005, 3:16pm
Did you forget to insert the Shit between Bull and Worker?
What's more anoying than a troll? A troll with no imagination.
I give you an F as a score... as in F**K.

If my head wasn't so sore today, I'd urinate on your shoes.
But I'm even too tired for that.

And... NO! This guy is not a brit, he may be a pikey though.... ;)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by tommyD on Sep 6th, 2005, 4:42pm
I see no evidence that snapt is a troll; snapt does not seem to be selling bullworkers, nor doe he/she seem to be trying to start a conflict.

By the way, the definition of "troll" is someone who posts messages on the Internet in order to foster conflict.  We really don't get too many true trolls here - we get a few snake oil salesmen, and a fight sometimes breaks out when they try to defend their scams, but they are not trolls, just greedhead not a very nice persons too stupid to go away when exposed.

snapt found that using a bullworker - an exercise device - can abort headaches. This is nothing new or strange. Though the bullworker seems to be more about strength training than aerobics, I'm sure it will get you breathing hard.  There are many reports of strenuous excercise aborting an attack. This website's archives are full of rational discussions about it.

I think a lot of you folks owe snapt an apology. And you owe the rest of us an apology as well - snapt could well have become a valuable member of the clusterhead family. But I see snapt made just one post, and I doubt we will see another.

Snapt - If by chance you're still reading this board, please hang around. Try posing discussions about treatments in the "Medications, treatments and threrapies" section. There is a generally lower level of ignorance and rudeness there.

-tommyD

And, yes, on this one I am agreeing with Bob P!
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by pattik on Sep 6th, 2005, 5:02pm

on 09/06/05 at 16:42:37, tommyD wrote:
I see no evidence that snapt is a troll; snapt does not seem to be selling bullworkers, nor doe he/she seem to be trying to start a conflict


TommyD, I respectfully have to disagree with you...


Quote:
but fukit lets get it to the people in pain. u will need a bullworker (type that bends spring handle either side )


First of all, he posted on the General Board, and secondly, he mentioned the product by name and said that it quelled the beast "every time".  And as long as you are bringing up rudeness, his "fukit" remark isn't exactly inviting polite responses.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by tommyD on Sep 6th, 2005, 5:30pm
It's understandable, Pattik, given the need to defend against scams and disruption. And that was a clumsy post by snapt, though we can't expect newbies to understand the kinds of language to avoid.  But I still don't see much evidence of trollism, or of snake oil - snake oil sellers usually avoid naming their oil at first. And maybe it does work for him (her?) every time (though that would be unique in CH history!)


Quote:
iv tried going into detail bout how this came about but fukit lets get it to the people in pain.


The "fukit" was self-referential, far as I can tell; he's swearing at himself for wasting time on details.

And snake oil sellers usually have better grammar and sentence construction (they are in the sleaziest end of the advertising business).

I'm all for bashing snake oil sellers and true (fight-starting) trolls. Got to be careful with that trigger-finger. A little reflection and a second read, while remembering we cannot read tone in a text message, can work wonders.

-tommyD
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by cootie on Sep 6th, 2005, 5:43pm
Yeah but ya know what.....if the snap-on-he-she-it person posted again sayin they weren't sellin shit and it was just an idea and sounded like a troll....and it all came out wrong.....and laughed at itself/himself/herself things would be cool......and they'd probly end up most popular on here within a week. That's all it takes......everyone is just reacting to the pecking order laws of nature. Flamed until proven inoscent Pam

(but alot of times they come back bashin and name calling with alot of product name dropping to the end)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Bob P on Sep 6th, 2005, 5:54pm

Quote:
he mentioned the product by name

Yep he called it a bullworker but described something else.  You can see what a bullworker is in the link I put in my post above.  Snapt goes on to describe one of those big springs with the bicycle grips on either end that you bend into a horseshoe shape.  I doubt he's selling anything other than some med free pain relief.  Too bad it won't completely stop a cluster cycle like some other alternative treatments will but it's still an option.

Snapt - pay no attention to the meegrainers!  WDGCH
(oops, is that trolling?)
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by tommyD on Sep 6th, 2005, 8:52pm
Yeah, you're right, Pam, it's the laws of human nature. But some folks won't come back when it seems to them they are being attacked out of the blue; can't say as I blame them. Folks need to know to lurk and get a feel for a board before posting, but fitting in or being popular shouldn't be a requirement for finding or sharing relief from the Beast.

This should all be about beating the Beast, so let's go easy on the newbies, 'kay guys?

-tommyD
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Chillrmn1 on Sep 7th, 2005, 4:43am
I agree with tommyD and BobP on this one. Did I really just say that about BobP;-)? I didn't see snapt being a troll. I think this individual was explaining how vigorous exercise helps to abort or alleviate this person's attacks and just so happens to use a bullworker in his arsenal. Many folks have reported vigorous aerobics to be helpful at the onset of an attack, whether it be due to redirection of bloodflow, higher uptake in oxygen levels, etc. Come on back snapt and share your experiences. If you're a troll, the troll hunters will seek you out, but I don't think you are and it was a case of mistaken identity.

And for BobP.....why would you suggest making fun of people using shrooms for cluster treatment;-)? LOL
Bob
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Sep 7th, 2005, 7:58am

on 09/05/05 at 18:08:05, pubgirl wrote:
That ain't no Brit whatever the flag do say.


The flag changed. Zimbabwe? Whatever....
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by don on Sep 7th, 2005, 8:04am
He's a troll

Just a troll with a valid point and didn't know it!
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by BobG on Sep 7th, 2005, 10:54am
My 2 cents....
tommyD is right. So is Bob P.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Margi on Sep 7th, 2005, 11:16am

on 09/07/05 at 10:54:21, BobG wrote:
My 2 cents....
tommyD is right. So is Bob P.


My $1.75 (that's the Cdn equivalent):  agreed.

Poor dude was just trying to share with us what works for him.  If he was trying to sell something, he would have posted a link to a website.  He even goes so far as to take a shot at Glaxo (proof that he's a pissed off clusterpeep at the money we spend at Glaxo).  Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by seasonalboomer on Sep 7th, 2005, 11:42am

on 09/07/05 at 11:16:23, Margi wrote:
He even goes so far as to take a shot at Glaxo (proof that he's a pissed off clusterpeep at the money we spend at Glaxo).  Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty?


Innocent until proven guilty is for crimes in a court of law

And, no other troll has ever taken a shot at the pharmas by saying their cure was a way of taking a nip out of the pharma's or freeing yourself from the pharma's. It's often the most common M.O. isn't it?

I don't care if he was or wasn't -- as someone suggested -- this is a forgiving bunch -- it's been done before. There's more out there today to feel sad and bad about than this.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by nani on Sep 7th, 2005, 11:51am
Gotta go with Margi, Tommy and the Bobs...
He doesn't really sound like a troll or a snakeoil salesman...

I've said it before....
I go to other sites and talk about what works for me... often in my first (or only) post.
Title: Re: try this works 4 me
Post by Kate in Oz on Sep 8th, 2005, 7:41am

on 09/06/05 at 08:02:17, LeLimey wrote:
Space Dust!
or pop rocks or whatever you used to call it!
If we are picking cure's from the 80's thats my choice!! ;;D (Sorry.. just pissing myself laughing here at the idea of space dust in a ch attack!!)


[smiley=laugh.gif] I read this yesterday and still crackin' a smile ....


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