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Title: New Orleans
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 1st, 2005, 3:56pm
Just pulled this off the Netscape news.  

Unrest Intensifies at Superdome Shelter

By ADAM NOSSITER
NEW ORLEANS (AP) - Fights and trash fires broke out at the hot and stinking Superdome and anger and unrest mounted across New Orleans on Thursday, as National Guardsmen in armored vehicles poured in to help restore order across the increasingly lawless and desperate city.

``We are out here like pure animals. We don't have help,'' the Rev. Issac Clark, 68, said outside the New Orleans Convention Center, where corpses lay in the open and evacuees complained that they were dropped off and given nothing.

An additional 10,000 National Guard troops from across the country were ordered into the hurricane-ravaged Gulf Coast to shore up security, rescue and relief operations in Katrina's wake as looting, shootings, gunfire, carjackings and other lawlessness spread.

That brought the number of troops dedicated to the effort to more than 28,000, in what may be the biggest military response to a natural disaster in U.S. history.
``The truth is, a terrible tragedy like this brings out the best in most people, brings out the worst in some people,'' said Mississippi Gov. Haley Barbour on NBC's ``Today'' show. ``We're trying to deal with looters as ruthlessly as we can get our hands on them.''
The Superdome, where some 25,000 people were being evacuated by bus to the Houston Astrodome, descended into chaos.
Huge crowds, hoping to finally escape the stifling confines of the stadium, jammed the main concourse outside the dome, spilling out over the ramp to the Hyatt hotel next door - a seething sea of tense, unhappy, people packed shoulder-to-shoulder up to the barricades where heavily armed National Guardsmen stood.
Fights broke out. A fire erupted in a trash chute inside the dome, but a National Guard commander said it did not affect the evacuation.
Outside the Convention Center, the sidewalks were packed with people without food, water or medical care, and with no sign of law enforcement. Thousands of storm refugees had been assembling outside for days, waiting for buses that did not come.
At least seven bodies were scattered outside, and hungry, desperate people who were tired of waiting broke through the steel doors to a food service entrance and began pushing out pallets of water and juice and whatever else they could find.
An old man in a chaise lounge lay dead in a grassy median as hungry babies wailed around him. Around the corner, an elderly woman lay dead in her wheelchair, covered up by a blanket, and another body lay beside her wrapped in a sheet.
``I don't treat my dog like that,'' 47-year-old Daniel Edwards said as he pointed at the woman in the wheelchair. ``I buried my dog.'' He added: ``You can do everything for other countries but you can't do nothing for your own people. You can go overseas with the military but you can't get them down here.''
Just above the convention center on Interstate 10, commercial buses were lined up, going nowhere. The street outside the center, above the floodwaters, smelled of urine and feces, and was choked with dirty diapers, old bottles and garbage.
``They've been teasing us with buses for four days,'' Edwards said.
People chanted, ``Help, help!'' as reporters and photographers walked through. The crowd got angry when journalists tried to photograph one of the bodies, and covered it over with a blanket. A woman, screaming, went on the front steps of the convention center and led the crowd in reciting the 23rd Psalm.
John Murray, 52, said: ``It's like they're punishing us.''
The first of hundreds of busloads of people evacuated from the Superdome arrived early Thursday at their new temporary home - another sports arena, the Houston Astrodome, 350 miles away.
But the ambulance service in charge of taking the sick and injured from the Superdome suspended flights after a shot was reported fired at a military helicopter. Richard Zuschlag, chief of Acadian Ambulance, said it had become too dangerous for his pilots.
The military, which was overseeing the removal of the able-bodied by buses, continued the ground evacuation without interruption, said National Guard Lt. Col. Pete Schneider. The government had no immediate confirmation of whether a military helicopter was fired on.
In Texas, the governor's office said Texas has agreed to take in an additional 25,000 refugees from Katrina and plans to house them in San Antonio, though exactly where has not been determined.


CONTINUED ON ANOTHR POST - it said it was too long!
Well sorry, it's important!  
>:(
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Jonny on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:06pm
You could have put part 2 in this thread ;;D


on 09/01/05 at 15:59:00, Sandy_C wrote:
Here's the rest of the article.

The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.
``I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this - whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud,'' Bush said. ``And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together.''
On Wednesday, Mayor Ray Nagin offered the most startling estimate yet of the magnitude of the disaster: Asked how many people died in New Orleans, he said: ``Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands.'' The death toll has already reached at least 110 in Mississippi.
If the estimate proves correct, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which was blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.
Nagin called for a total evacuation of New Orleans, saying the city had become uninhabitable for the 50,000 to 100,000 who remained behind after the city of nearly a half-million people was ordered cleared out over the weekend, before Katrina blasted the Gulf Coast with 145-mph winds.
The mayor said that it will be two or three months before the city is functioning again and that people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.
``We need an effort of 9-11 proportions,'' former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's ``Today'' show. ``So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there.''
``A great American city is fighting for its life,'' he added. ``We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism.''
With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.
``They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas - hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now,'' Nagin said.
In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.
The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.
The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone into a 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall.
But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.
Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu toured the stricken areas said said rescued people begged him to pass information to their families. His pocket was full of scraps of paper on which he had scribbled down their phone numbers.
When he got a working phone in the early morning hours Thursday, he contacted a woman whose father had been rescued and told her: ``Your daddy's alive, and he said to tell you he loves you.''
``She just started crying. She said, `I thought he was dead,''' he said.
Associated Press reporters Holbrook Mohr, Mary Foster, Robert Tanner, Allen G. Breed, Cain Burdeau, Jay Reeves and Brett Martel contributed to this report.



I honestly don't know whether to feel sad for these poor people, angry at these poor people, or furious at the authorities who seem not to have been prepared for something of this magnitude.  Maybe all my feelings are justified and rolled into one.

Sandy
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Jonny on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:09pm
Or like this ;;D

Here's the rest of the article.

The president urged a crackdown on the lawlessness.  
``I think there ought to be zero tolerance of people breaking the law during an emergency such as this - whether it be looting, or price gouging at the gasoline pump, or taking advantage of charitable giving or insurance fraud,'' Bush said. ``And I've made that clear to our attorney general. The citizens ought to be working together.''  
On Wednesday, Mayor Ray Nagin offered the most startling estimate yet of the magnitude of the disaster: Asked how many people died in New Orleans, he said: ``Minimum, hundreds. Most likely, thousands.'' The death toll has already reached at least 110 in Mississippi.  
If the estimate proves correct, it would make Katrina the worst natural disaster in the United States since at least the 1906 San Francisco earthquake and fire, which was blamed for anywhere from about 500 to 6,000 deaths. Katrina would also be the nation's deadliest hurricane since 1900, when a storm in Galveston, Texas, killed between 6,000 and 12,000 people.  
Nagin called for a total evacuation of New Orleans, saying the city had become uninhabitable for the 50,000 to 100,000 who remained behind after the city of nearly a half-million people was ordered cleared out over the weekend, before Katrina blasted the Gulf Coast with 145-mph winds.  
The mayor said that it will be two or three months before the city is functioning again and that people would not be allowed back into their homes for at least a month or two.  
``We need an effort of 9-11 proportions,'' former New Orleans Mayor Marc Morial, now president of the Urban League, said on NBC's ``Today'' show. ``So many of the people who did not evacuate, could not evacuate for whatever reason. They are people who are African-American mostly but not completely, and people who were of little or limited economic means. They are the folks, we've got to get them out of there.''  
``A great American city is fighting for its life,'' he added. ``We must rebuild New Orleans, the city that gave us jazz, and music, and multiculturalism.''  
With New Orleans sinking deeper into desperation, Nagin ordered virtually the entire police force to abandon search-and-rescue efforts Wednesday and stop the increasingly brazen thieves.  
``They are starting to get closer to heavily populated areas - hotels, hospitals, and we're going to stop it right now,'' Nagin said.  
In a sign of growing lawlessness, Tenet HealthCare Corp. asked authorities late Wednesday to help evacuate a fully functioning hospital in Gretna after a supply truck carrying food, water and medical supplies was held up at gunpoint.  
The floodwaters streamed into the city's streets from two levee breaks near Lake Pontchartrain a day after New Orleans thought it had escaped catastrophic damage from Katrina. The floodwaters covered 80 percent of the city, in some areas 20 feet deep, in a reddish-brown soup of sewage, gasoline and garbage.  
The Army Corps of Engineers said it planned to use heavy-duty Chinook helicopters to drop 15,000-pound bags of sand and stone into a 500-foot gap in the failed floodwall.  
But the agency said it was having trouble getting the sandbags and dozens of 15-foot highway barriers to the site because the city's waterways were blocked by loose barges, boats and large debris.  
Lt. Gov. Mitch Landrieu toured the stricken areas said said rescued people begged him to pass information to their families. His pocket was full of scraps of paper on which he had scribbled down their phone numbers.  
When he got a working phone in the early morning hours Thursday, he contacted a woman whose father had been rescued and told her: ``Your daddy's alive, and he said to tell you he loves you.''  
``She just started crying. She said, `I thought he was dead,''' he said.  
Associated Press reporters Holbrook Mohr, Mary Foster, Robert Tanner, Allen G. Breed, Cain Burdeau, Jay Reeves and Brett Martel contributed to this report.  



I honestly don't know whether to feel sad for these poor people, angry at these poor people, or furious at the authorities who seem not to have been prepared for something of this magnitude.  Maybe all my feelings are justified and rolled into one.

Sandy
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:10pm
Thanks Jonny,

I'm not a puter guru, just a dummie trying to look smarter than I am.  I'll remember that next time.

Sandy
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Jonny on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:11pm
Ok, go to your other post and click "remove"
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:32pm
Done!

Just a dummie!   :-[

Thanks, Jonny
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Jonny on Sep 1st, 2005, 4:41pm

on 09/01/05 at 16:32:36, Sandy_C wrote:
Done!

Just a dummie!   :-[Thanks, Jonny


Shaddup ;;D

We all learn (Psst, someone taught me that trick years ago :-*)

Love ya, Babe!
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by BikerBob on Sep 1st, 2005, 5:11pm
Sandy wrote:
Quote:
I honestly don't know whether to feel sad for these poor people, angry at these poor people, or furious at the authorities who seem not to have been prepared for something of this magnitude.  Maybe all my feelings are justified and rolled into one.

Sandy


"New Orleans is a Victim of Iraq War

by Molly Ivans, columnist in Austin Texas

- Bush chopped $71.2 million from the budget of the New Orleans Corps of Engineers levee projects, a 44% reduction; due to the Iraq war.

- Over a year ago, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane was shelved due to the budget cuts.

- The Office of Technology Assessment used to produce forward thinking plans like "Floods: a National Policy Concern", and "A Framework for Flood Hazards Management". The office was targeted by Newt Gingrich and the Republican right and gutted years ago.  

- About 35% of Louisiana's National Guard is now serving in Iraq.

- Dozens of the Louisiana National Guard's high-water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators have been sent abroad.

- The levees of New Orleans were also victims of Iraq War spending. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, said on June 8, 2004, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 1st, 2005, 5:32pm

on 09/01/05 at 16:41:38, Jonny wrote:
Shaddup ;;D

We all learn (Psst, someone taught me that trick years ago :-*)

Love ya, Babe!

:-*
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Sandy_C on Sep 1st, 2005, 5:33pm

on 09/01/05 at 17:11:07, BikerBob wrote:
Sandy wrote:


"New Orleans is a Victim of Iraq War

by Molly Ivans, columnist in Austin Texas

- Bush chopped $71.2 million from the budget of the New Orleans Corps of Engineers levee projects, a 44% reduction; due to the Iraq war.

- Over a year ago, a study to determine ways to protect the region from a Category 5 hurricane was shelved due to the budget cuts.

- The Office of Technology Assessment used to produce forward thinking plans like "Floods: a National Policy Concern", and "A Framework for Flood Hazards Management". The office was targeted by Newt Gingrich and the Republican right and gutted years ago.  

- About 35% of Louisiana's National Guard is now serving in Iraq.

- Dozens of the Louisiana National Guard's high-water vehicles, humvees, refuelers and generators have been sent abroad.

- The levees of New Orleans were also victims of Iraq War spending. Walter Maestri, emergency management chief for Jefferson Parish, said on June 8, 2004, "It appears that the money has been moved in the president's budget to handle homeland security and the war in Iraq."



Please tell me you are joking.  This is terrible.

Sandy
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Donna_D. on Sep 1st, 2005, 8:21pm
Every little bit helps,,,

Today after I picked up the kids from school and day care we stopped by our local Goodwill Store.  My intentions were to pick up some shorts for the kids.  I had just gotten off the phone with Redneck and Jean and the whole hurricane disaster was occupying my mind as the kids and I looked through all the clothes.  

This whole catastrophe has made all of us feel so helpless.  I posed the question to Redneck, "What can I do to help?".  

He answered, "Give to the Red Cross, Salvation Army or any Organization that is getting supplies to the victims of Katrina."

His words still ringing in my ears, the kids and I decided to forget shopping for us and instead shopped together to pick out an outfit for someone just like us who may have lost all of their belongings.  Jessica enjoyed picking out a summer dress for a little girl "just like her" and Justin, well, he had fun pulling the price tags off of everything.  We grabbed a couple of blankets and threw those in the cart.  To some it may not seem like a lot but to us it is the only way we could help out and feel "not so helpless".   I just got finished going through my closet and the kids are picking out a few toys and other things we feel might be needed by those who now have nothing.

Tomorrow, we plan to go together to the local donations center and drop off our small contribution.  My daughter is excited about it.  So am I.

We can learn from this.  We can teach our children the value of giving.  We can help in ways that, to us,  may seem small but to others will be a true blessing.  

There but for the grace of God go I.  

To all who have been affected by this disaster, you are in my prayers.  


God Bless you All.


DD  Jessica and Jusin
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Charlie on Sep 1st, 2005, 8:29pm

Quote:
Please tell me you are joking.  This is terrible.


From Salon as well as heard on the "liberal media" of course, especially liberal Sydney Bluenthal who wrote this, probably as a preemptive strike against all the Clinton bashing to come since nothing is ever George Bush's fault. Nonetheless, left, right, or middle, the facts remain the same:

"Aug. 31, 2005  |  Biblical in its uncontrolled rage and scope, Hurricane Katrina has left millions of Americans to scavenge for food and shelter and hundreds to thousands reportedly dead. With its main levee broken, the evacuated city of New Orleans has become part of the Gulf of Mexico. But the damage wrought by the hurricane may not entirely be the result of an act of nature.

A year ago the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to study how New Orleans could be protected from a catastrophic hurricane, but the Bush administration ordered that the research not be undertaken. After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut the Corps of Engineers' request for holding back the waters of New Orleans' Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. Additional cuts at the beginning of this year (for a total reduction in funding of 44.2 percent since 2001) forced the Corps to impose a hiring freeze. The Senate had debated adding funds for fixing New Orleans levees, but it was too late."

Charlie (Molly is my one of my favorites)
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by thebbz on Sep 1st, 2005, 8:34pm
Oh it sucks to be a cajun about now.  :'( Shoot a couple of those looters and see how fast the rest fall in line.  >:(I can see looting to survive, but how does a plasma tv and eight pairs of shoes help? [smiley=huh.gif] I could see fighting for water and food but the idiots are not helping relief.  :-/We will be donating and doing what we can to help from here, lord keep these people.  :-*Now is the time for a big terrorist attack or an earthquake on the west coast. :-[ We be keepin our eyes open now. :o
Bush rules!!LOL
BB :)
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by DonnaHar on Sep 1st, 2005, 8:57pm
If only those buses had helped evacuate people before the storm.....if only the levees had been secure.....there are a million "if onlys".  If only the heavy machinery there now had been there waiting before.  We the people need to call for answers from those accountable.

As I said in another post for which I was chastised, we have been hearing about "the big one" being due for years.  This is not a surprise storm.  It was expected.  We were warned a couple days in advance that it was going to hit in the N O area.  Where were our leaders?  Not where they should have been.  Where was our Pres?  Vacationing, and not in a hurry to respond either.

I've heard that the Red Cross was ordered not to go into N. O. so that the people would eventually have to leave.  I don't know if this is true or not, but if it is, my God have mercy on those poor people.  Docs and Nurses are stranded in hospitals that have had the patients evacuated.  They are begging to be rescued.  Dead animals, etc.,  are floating in the water.


Thank God for the only people who really cared and helped as soon as they could...those who volunteered..the Rednecks of our country, the Donna D's and everyone else who DID SOMETHING.

And what about our friends outside our borders?  They've offered help and were put off.  Why?  We need all the help we can get.  It is only going to get worse.  We need help now.
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Carl_D on Sep 1st, 2005, 9:25pm
:'(
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by thebbz on Sep 1st, 2005, 9:30pm
::)  ::) ::)
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Topical on Sep 1st, 2005, 10:13pm
I read an awful story about Mississippi as well:

"Police said a man in Hattiesburg, Mississippi, shot and killed his sister in a row over a bag of ice. Dozens of carjackings were reported, including a nursing home bus and a truck carrying medical supplies for a hospital."

This is too sad. I hope it ends soon.

Everyone's focus is on New Orleans. Meanwhile, my friend in the national guard just shipped off to Kuwait this week. What is the national guard for? Why didn't they get mobilized on Saturday when they knew the storm was heading to New Orleans? Why was the levee project cut?  

Police precincts in New Orleans have a 30-50 percent desertion rate. The ones left are now snipers on the roof protecting the station. One report said the convention center now has 100 armed men inside. The guard and troops can't enter. I hope that story isn't true as they interviewed some people earlier in the day there.

I gave to the Red Cross. I urge everyone to do what they can to help however they can to whomever can help. At least they can help out people on the fringes as we wait for this chaos to end.
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Peppermint on Sep 1st, 2005, 11:04pm
Babies are dying from lack of food, water and medicine.

People are dying, no food, no water, terrible heat, no organization - this situation is disgraceful.  How many days has it been, how quickly can you move half a million people, they knew it would be a catastrophe... :'(  I'm beside myself, I cannot imagine what hellish nightmare these folks are going through.   Many of these folks are people that couldn't get out because of nowhere to go, and no money to take with them, no transportation to safety.  

Steve, I don't know the you, but I hope that Godwilling you made it to safety with your family.

The way this is going.... God help us all.  
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Sep 2nd, 2005, 7:57am

on 09/01/05 at 20:57:48, DonnaHar wrote:
If only those buses had helped evacuate people before the storm....


On the news last night I heard that they tried that and thousands of people refused the ride.
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Frank_W on Sep 2nd, 2005, 8:10am
We were scuba diving in Panama City Beach when hurricane Emily was due to come ashore. Mandatory evacuation was set for 7:30, Sunday morning. Friday and Saturday, there was a mass exodus of tourists, but nearly all of the locals said they were staying, and refused to leave. Fortunately, the damage wasn't worse than it was, but people are just crazy... We got the hell outta' there on Sunday morning. Just prior to dawn, we were standing in the surf, drinking beer, and watching the first bits of lightning flickering on the horizon. *shudder*
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by ExplodingEyeBall on Sep 2nd, 2005, 8:29am
Hey.... Let's blame our president for the fact that 100,000 moronic thiefs, looters, criminals, etc... refused a mandatory evacutation order and are now pillaging their own neighborhoods and killing innocent people who couldn't evacuate.

Now that's a really intelligent thing to do. Don't like the war? Blame Bush and the war on the problems in New Orleans. Don't like Bush? I'm sure that you can find some way to blame all of this on him.

The fact is that thousands of people flat out refused to leave when they were told to. Now they are complaining that they don't have enough help. NO $HIT!!!! The place is a complete disaster. It takes a while to get help into an area like that. To make matters worse, the rescuers are under fire and have to protect themselves.

The Bush bashers should go suck an egg and quit blaming him for the problems down there.
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by floridian on Sep 2nd, 2005, 10:11am

on 09/02/05 at 08:29:02, ExplodingEyeBall wrote:
Hey.... Let's blame our president for the fact that 100,000 moronic thiefs, looters, criminals, etc... refused a mandatory evacutation order and are now pillaging their own neighborhoods and killing innocent people who couldn't evacuate.

Now that's a really intelligent thing to do. Don't like the war? Blame Bush and the war on the problems in New Orleans. Don't like Bush? I'm sure that you can find some way to blame all of this on him.

The fact is that thousands of people flat out refused to leave when they were told to. Now they are complaining that they don't have enough help. NO $HIT!!!! The place is a complete disaster. It takes a while to get help into an area like that. To make matters worse, the rescuers are under fire and have to protect themselves.

The Bush bashers should go suck an egg and quit blaming him for the problems down there.


The first Bush high level appointee forced to resign:



Quote:
Michael Parker, the former civilian chief of the Army Corps of Engineers ... not over allegations of corruption, but for what this administration views as the one true deadly sin: disloyalty. (Parker publicly criticized the president's budget.)

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2001/0207.green.html




Quote:
 
If the Corps is limited in what it does for the American people, there will be a negative impact.”
      Conrad said he intended to ask administration officials whether Parker was dismissed because of his testimony.
      “If the administration is firing him for that, I believe that is a serious mistake on their part and is going to have an adverse effect on relations with the Congress,” he said. “You cannot fire people who come up and answer questions honestly.”
      The White House said it would have no comment on Parker beyond what the Defense Department said. However, an administration official speaking on condition of anonymity said that after his testimony before congressional panels, it was felt that Parker was not on the president’s team.
http://www.arroyoseco.org/MWNBC020306COE.htm



Quote:
The assistant secretary of the Army, Mississippi's former U.S. Rep. Mike Parker, was forced out Wednesday after he criticized the Bush administration's proposed spending cuts on Army Corps of Engineers' water projects, members of Congress said.

"Apparently he was asked to resign," said U.S. Rep. Roger Wicker, R-Miss., a member of the House Appropriations Committee's energy and water development subcommittee that oversees the corps' budget.

Sen. Kent Conrad, D-N.D., chairman of the Senate Budget Committee, also said Parker was dismissed.

Parker earned the ire of administration officials when he questioned Bush's planned budget cuts for the corps, including two controversial Mississippi projects.

"I think he was fired for being too honest and not loyal enough to the president," said lobbyist Colin Bell, who represents communities with corps-funded projects.

http://orig.clarionledger.com/news/0203/07/m05.html
Title: Re: New Orleans
Post by Charlie on Sep 2nd, 2005, 5:15pm

Quote:
Hey.... Let's blame our president for the fact that 100,000 moronic thiefs, looters, criminals, etc


Will do. http://www.schildersmilies.de/schilder/goodidea.gif

That's what you get when you are a President; even an accidental one elected by your brother. The buck stops at the White House, not at the door of those without press secretaries to handle spin.

Good post Floridian. The fastest way to demotion in this administration is to follow the facts or to not make results agree with their version of the truth. It's never been so blatantly displayed.

Charlie


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